Re: [Vo]:the true source of energy
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:47:05 PM The conclusion that logic forces us to arrive at must be that there is another place where all that over unity heat is coming from. These particles cannot be producing (900 watts) (3.5) = 3150 watts of output power. I have always argued that the thermalization may happen away from the particles.
Re: [Vo]:the true source of energy
Perhaps these are the sources. If you look at the literature (I don't remember where, but I think it's a paper o presentation from Kim), it's pointed out that 24MeV particles from within old experiments with Pd look like conic craters with 4um in diameter and similar depth, if my memory is correct. Compare with the nickel powder. If such explosion occurs, a grain of powder will explode. There will be flying hot debris, which will glue to other to other grains. If there are a few thousands of explosion per grain/s. There will be like a dust chaos of debris flying around in the powder. The movement from the dust will heat the air and send most heat out by convection. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:the true source of energy
We may eventually come to the conclusion that the nickel can produce power even in the molten form. That seems to be what is implied. Is there reason to assume that molten nickel can not work? A higher temperature might enhance the process that is not well understood at the moment. I have no opinion about this matter. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 3:47 pm Subject: [Vo]:the true source of energy If the nickel particles are the ultimate source of 3.5Xover-unity heat in the Rossi reactor, it is paradoxical and against commonsense that 900 constantly applied watts of heat energy is required to keep the nickel particlesactive. Furthermore, this COP value is far under what the Hot-catcan do. The real COP is somewhere north of 6. At an external temperature that is hovering at 1400C fordays, there is no room for differences in temperature within the guts of thereactor itself. The answer must be that the nickel particles are not themain source of the heat in the reactor. They need lots of heat stimulation tofunction and they are not getting that heat from over-unity heat production. The isotopic tests confirm that the nickel particles arepure nickel. These particles must melt at 1450C. The conclusion that logic forces us to arrive at must bethat there is another place where all that over unity heat is coming from. These particles cannot be producing (900watts) (3.5) = 3150 watts of output power.
Re: [Vo]:the true source of energy
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:16:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] We may eventually come to the conclusion that the nickel can produce power even in the molten form. That seems to be what is implied. Is there reason to assume that molten nickel can not work? A higher temperature might enhance the process that is not well understood at the moment. I have no opinion about this matter. Dave If it's a neutron exchange reaction, it shouldn't matter what form the atoms are in. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:the true source of energy
I believe that Ni particles will not work once melted - just intuition, because I don't buy the neutron stripping yet. If we take a leap of faith and say that the central reactor core alumina tube is coated with particles sintered to its inside (like a catalytic converter for example), we don't know anymore whether the active material is Ni. The active material could be a more refractory metal, for example, zirconium, perhaps processed with an additional catalyst as the Ni was. The only clue we have seems to be the very high operating temperatures, suggesting that it is not Ni. Any Ni that Rossi added in the beginning could have been a startup mouse or just simple obfuscation. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: If the nickel particles are the ultimate source of 3.5X over-unity heat in the Rossi reactor, it is paradoxical and against common sense that 900 constantly applied watts of heat energy is required to keep the nickel particles active. Furthermore, this COP value is far under what the Hot-cat can do. The real COP is somewhere north of 6. At an external temperature that is hovering at 1400C for days, there is no room for differences in temperature within the guts of the reactor itself. The answer must be that the nickel particles are not the main source of the heat in the reactor. They need lots of heat stimulation to function and they are not getting that heat from over-unity heat production. The isotopic tests confirm that the nickel particles are pure nickel. These particles must melt at 1450C. The conclusion that logic forces us to arrive at must be that there is another place where all that over unity heat is coming from. These particles cannot be producing (900 watts) (3.5) = 3150 watts of output power.
