Re: whats new continue

2005-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Title: Re: whats new continue



If my answer is unresponsive, does that mean only certain answers 
are permitted like in the riddle you posed about the two Indian tribes?

Harry


RC Macaulay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not so fast Harry,, when challenged by the intellectual Darwainians, their challenge in itself presupposes they can prove evolution. 
Evidence of changes ,are of in itself, no proof.
My question is simple explain the origin of time and distance. Mr big discounted as an unresponsive answer.
 
Richard
 






Re: Whats new continue

2005-01-17 Thread RC Macaulay



Gosh !! Harry , Were I soliciting a simple answer to my 
riddle regarding red feet vs green feet, I would have posed the question part as 
..if you could determine if they were ( lying or telling the truth) to 
..if they were green feet or red feet.

This group is swift, thats what makes it 
enjoyable.

Richard

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RE: whats new continue

2005-01-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi RC

Richard writes:
Mr big discounted as an unresponsive answer.
 
Wow, I couldn't have put that more succinctly myself.

So can we assume that you've given up on the creationist notion? (grin)

Mind you, I'm not asking if you accept Darwins theories. Just whether
you agree with your own statement that Mr Big is a non-answer to
the question of the creation of the universe.

K.



Re: whats new continue

2005-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder

The answer I supplied challenges the question.
The question is leading to use a legal term.

An origin question presumes the subject in question
must have an origin.

Contemporary science and creationists tend to organise
themselves so as to provide answers to such inescapable
questions.

Creationists will continue to annoy scientists
until science begins to question the question.

Contemporary science lacks vigour because it has become
consumed by the question of origin.

Harry


Keith Nagel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi RC
 
 Richard writes:
 Mr big discounted as an unresponsive answer.
 
 Wow, I couldn't have put that more succinctly myself.
 
 So can we assume that you've given up on the creationist notion? (grin)
 
 Mind you, I'm not asking if you accept Darwins theories. Just whether
 you agree with your own statement that Mr Big is a non-answer to
 the question of the creation of the universe.
 
 K.
 



Re: Whats new continue

2005-01-16 Thread RC Macaulay



Creationism vs. Darwinism..

My simple mind looks at a 3 dollar wind up pocket watch 
( Mickey Mouse type preferred) and a yardstick and ponders.

If I wind up the watch and as it runs I witness the 
beginning of a measure of time.. or ..did time exist before I started the 
watch?

Next. I have a ladder that has legs that can 
extend to infinite height. Taking the yard stick , I began measuring height by 
the yard . How long would it take me to measure to the "top" ?

If the watch never stops.. regardless of how much 
time elapses, that interval will NEVER equal the amount of time that had 
passed BEFORE the watch was started. Same for the yardstick. Regardless of how 
much "height" is measured. it will NEVER equal the distance below the point at 
which you began measuring.

As idiotic as this post reads, it makes a point. That 
being you can theorize evolution vs creationalism forever and still miss the 
evidence staring you in the face.

Time is... length is. explain its origin.

Richard

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Re: Whats new continue

2005-01-16 Thread Harry Veeder
Title: Re: Whats new continue



RC Macaulay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Creationism vs. Darwinism..
 
My simple mind looks at a 3 dollar wind up pocket watch ( Mickey Mouse type preferred) and a yardstick and ponders.
 
If I wind up the watch and as it runs I witness the beginning of a measure of time.. or ..did time exist before I started the watch?
 
Next. I have a ladder that has legs that can extend to infinite height. Taking the yard stick , I began measuring height by the yard . How long would it take me to measure to the top ?
 
If the watch never stops.. regardless of how much time elapses, that interval will NEVER equal the amount of time that had passed BEFORE the watch was started. Same for the yardstick. Regardless of how much height is measured. it will NEVER equal the distance below the point at which you began measuring.
 
As idiotic as this post reads, it makes a point. That being you can theorize evolution vs creationalism forever and still miss the evidence staring you in the face.
 
Time is... length is. explain its origin.
 
Richard
 



Perhaps they have no origin, in the same way as Mr. Big has no origin.
Perhaps time and space are just qualities of Mr. Big.

Harry 





Re: whats new continue

2005-01-16 Thread RC Macaulay



Not so fast Harry,, when challenged by the intellectual 
Darwainians, their challenge in itself presupposes they can prove evolution. 

Evidence of changes ,are of in itself, no 
proof.
My question is simple explain the origin of time and 
distance. Mr big discounted as an unresponsive answer.

Richard

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