Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread F.W. Hänel


Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected via  
USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has 3  
tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware settings  
for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing off.  
But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show the  
Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver description,  
but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer, then  
click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it still  
would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer  
won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax preference  
window and the driver is listed in the Apple list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process  
PrintJobMgs stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740


Hello Walter,

I think you mean PrintJobMgr not Mgs
Are you using the Gutenprint v5.2.3 driver or an Epson Driver  
from Epson website?


Check if you have any print jobs queued.
System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your printer - then  
Open Print Queue

If there are any jobs listed ... delete them.
Then see if you can print.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard






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Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown


Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax Preferences   
then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected via  
USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has 3  
tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware settings  
for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing off.  
But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show the  
Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver  
description, but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer, then  
click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it still  
would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer  
won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax preference  
window and the driver is listed in the Apple list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process  
PrintJobMgs stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740


Hello Walter,

I think you mean PrintJobMgr not Mgs
Are you using the Gutenprint v5.2.3 driver or an Epson Driver  
from Epson website?


Check if you have any print jobs queued.
System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your printer - then  
Open Print Queue

If there are any jobs listed ... delete them.
Then see if you can print.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard






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Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread F.W. Hänel


Hi Ronni,

It says Driver version: 1.0

Thanks

Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:06 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax Preferences  
 then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected via  
USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has 3  
tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware  
settings for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing  
off. But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show the  
Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver  
description, but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer, then  
click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it still  
would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer  
won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax  
preference window and the driver is listed in the Apple list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process  
PrintJobMgs stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740


Hello Walter,

I think you mean PrintJobMgr not Mgs
Are you using the Gutenprint v5.2.3 driver or an Epson  
Driver from Epson website?


Check if you have any print jobs queued.
System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your printer -  
then Open Print Queue

If there are any jobs listed ... delete them.
Then see if you can print.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard






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Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread Stephen Chape


Start harassing Epson.
I am having to do the same with HP !!!

On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer won't work  
anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax preference window  
and the driver is listed in the Apple list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process PrintJobMgs  
stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740

Thanks

Walter



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Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown


Hi Walter,

I'm pretty sure that is not the latest driver for your printer to work  
in Snow Leopard.

Did you install the Epson Printer Drivers from Snow Leopard disc?
Have you run Software Update to see if it has an updated driver for  
your Printer?


Let me know the answer to above before you delete  re-add the printer.

I think you need to Delete the printer from Print  Fax System  
Preferences, then re-add the printer.


When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver already  
installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:13 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It says Driver version: 1.0

Thanks

Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:06 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax  
Preferences  then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected  
via USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has 3  
tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware  
settings for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing  
off. But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show the  
Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver  
description, but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer, then  
click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it still  
would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer  
won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax  
preference window and the driver is listed in the Apple  
list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process  
PrintJobMgs stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740


Hello Walter,

I think you mean PrintJobMgr not Mgs
Are you using the Gutenprint v5.2.3 driver or an Epson  
Driver from Epson website?


Check if you have any print jobs queued.
System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your printer -  
then Open Print Queue

If there are any jobs listed ... delete them.
Then see if you can print.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard




Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard



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Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread F.W. Hänel


Hi Ronni,

No, I thought the driver installs itself, since it is listed in the  
large Apple list released on this topic.
Apple software update was checked this morning.(and its all current)   
But Epson SW update was not - don't know if they have this

service for this old printer ?

Thanks
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:32 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

I'm pretty sure that is not the latest driver for your printer to  
work in Snow Leopard.

Did you install the Epson Printer Drivers from Snow Leopard disc?
Have you run Software Update to see if it has an updated driver for  
your Printer?


Let me know the answer to above before you delete  re-add the  
printer.


I think you need to Delete the printer from Print  Fax System  
Preferences, then re-add the printer.


When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver  
already installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:13 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It says Driver version: 1.0

Thanks

Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:06 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax  
Preferences  then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected  
via USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has 3  
tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware  
settings for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing  
off. But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show  
the Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver  
description, but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer, then  
click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it still  
would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer  
won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax  
preference window and the driver is listed in the Apple  
list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process  
PrintJobMgs stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740


Hello Walter,

I think you mean PrintJobMgr not Mgs
Are you using the Gutenprint v5.2.3 driver or an Epson  
Driver from Epson website?


Check if you have any print jobs queued.
System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your printer -  
then Open Print Queue

If there are any jobs listed ... delete them.
Then see if you can print.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard




Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard



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Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown


Hi Walter,

The Apple list only gives the Epson Stylus Color 740 - Gutenprint  
v5.2.3 driver.


Try deleting the Printer and re-add the printer:
1. Click on the - button to delete the printer

2. When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver already  
installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

3. Click Add when done

Let me know what Drivers it shows for your Epson Stylus Color 740.

If you are still unable to print Reset the Printing System, then re- 
add the printer
To Reset  Printing System ... Control click (right click) on your  
Printer in the left column of System Preferences  Print  Fax   
select Rest Printing System.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:42 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:


Hi Ronni,

No, I thought the driver installs itself, since it is listed in the  
large Apple list released on this topic.
Apple software update was checked this morning.(and its all  
current)  But Epson SW update was not - don't know if they have this

service for this old printer ?

Thanks
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:32 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

I'm pretty sure that is not the latest driver for your printer to  
work in Snow Leopard.

Did you install the Epson Printer Drivers from Snow Leopard disc?
Have you run Software Update to see if it has an updated driver for  
your Printer?


Let me know the answer to above before you delete  re-add the  
printer.


I think you need to Delete the printer from Print  Fax System  
Preferences, then re-add the printer.


When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver  
already installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:13 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It says Driver version: 1.0

Thanks

Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:06 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax  
Preferences  then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected  
via USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has 3  
tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware  
settings for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing  
off. But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show  
the Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver  
description, but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer,  
then click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it still  
would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the printer  
won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax  
preference window and the driver is listed in the Apple  
list.
But when it comes to printing the alert  The process  
PrintJobMgs stopped unexpectedly with status 255 


Any suggestions what to do ?

Printer: Epson Stylus Color 740


Hello Walter,

I think you mean PrintJobMgr not Mgs
Are you using the Gutenprint v5.2.3 driver or an Epson  
Driver from Epson website?


Check if you have any print jobs queued.
System Preferences  

Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread F.W. Hänel


Hi Ronni,

Yes, that did it.
And the Printer was shown under driver as  Epson Stylus Color 740 -  
Gutenprint v5.2.3.


Just one final question. Where do the hundreds of unwanted drivers  
reside on the HD ?

I'm thinking of deleting most of them.

Thank you very much for your time,

Cheers,

Walter

On 20/09/2009, at 2:58 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

The Apple list only gives the Epson Stylus Color 740 - Gutenprint  
v5.2.3 driver.


Try deleting the Printer and re-add the printer:
1. Click on the - button to delete the printer

2. When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver  
already installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

3. Click Add when done

Let me know what Drivers it shows for your Epson Stylus Color 740.

If you are still unable to print Reset the Printing System, then  
re-add the printer
To Reset  Printing System ... Control click (right click) on your  
Printer in the left column of System Preferences  Print  Fax   
select Rest Printing System.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:42 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:


Hi Ronni,

No, I thought the driver installs itself, since it is listed in the  
large Apple list released on this topic.
Apple software update was checked this morning.(and its all  
current)  But Epson SW update was not - don't know if they have this

service for this old printer ?

Thanks
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:32 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

I'm pretty sure that is not the latest driver for your printer to  
work in Snow Leopard.

Did you install the Epson Printer Drivers from Snow Leopard disc?
Have you run Software Update to see if it has an updated driver  
for your Printer?


Let me know the answer to above before you delete  re-add the  
printer.


I think you need to Delete the printer from Print  Fax System  
Preferences, then re-add the printer.


When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver  
already installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:13 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It says Driver version: 1.0

Thanks

Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:06 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax  
Preferences  then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is connected  
via USB - it was before the SL installation and it worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has  
3 tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using: EPSON  
Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware  
settings for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer sharing  
off. But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show  
the Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not  
highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to find the driver  
description, but because the description

is the name of the printer I dismissed it.

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 12:36 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

System Preferences  Print  Fax - select your Printer,  
then click on Options  Supplies

General - Driver version
Also what does it say under Driver

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 12:31 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes I meant PrintJobMgr.
I had already peviously cleared the jobs queued - it  
still would not print.

How can I tell which driver I'm using ?

Thanks for your reply,

Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 11:40 , Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hello all,

Have today installed SL with 10.6.1 upgrade to follow.
So far haven't noticed any problems - except the  
printer won't work anymore.
The printer is listed + selected in the print/fax  
preference window and the driver is listed in the Apple  
list.
But when it comes 

Re: SL upgrade

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown


Hi Walter,

You're welcome, good to hear you are printing again :-)

In the past, the default option was to install a whole boatload of  
printer drivers, though you could deselect one or more brands of  
printer that you didn’t expect to use. Now, by default, in Snow  
Leopard the installer copies to your disk only the drivers for  
printers you’ve previously used and those it can see attached to your  
computer or on your local network, plus drivers for a modest selection  
of popular printers.
(This change is the biggest reason Snow Leopard uses less disk space  
than Leopard, although the actual space savings depends on how many  
printer drivers you had installed previously.)
If you later encounter a new printer, Mac OS X downloads and installs  
the correct driver as needed.


You can check what Printer Drivers you have installed on your Mac by  
going to HD  Library  Printers


Cheers,
Ronni


On 20/09/2009, at 3:30 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes, that did it.
And the Printer was shown under driver as  Epson Stylus Color 740 -  
Gutenprint v5.2.3.


Just one final question. Where do the hundreds of unwanted drivers  
reside on the HD ?

I'm thinking of deleting most of them.

Thank you very much for your time,

Cheers,

Walter

On 20/09/2009, at 2:58 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

The Apple list only gives the Epson Stylus Color 740 - Gutenprint  
v5.2.3 driver.


Try deleting the Printer and re-add the printer:
1. Click on the - button to delete the printer

2. When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print using  
popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver  
already installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

3. Click Add when done

Let me know what Drivers it shows for your Epson Stylus Color 740.

If you are still unable to print Reset the Printing System, then  
re-add the printer
To Reset  Printing System ... Control click (right click) on your  
Printer in the left column of System Preferences  Print  Fax   
select Rest Printing System.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:42 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:


Hi Ronni,

No, I thought the driver installs itself, since it is listed in  
the large Apple list released on this topic.
Apple software update was checked this morning.(and its all  
current)  But Epson SW update was not - don't know if they have this

service for this old printer ?

Thanks
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:32 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

I'm pretty sure that is not the latest driver for your printer to  
work in Snow Leopard.

Did you install the Epson Printer Drivers from Snow Leopard disc?
Have you run Software Update to see if it has an updated driver  
for your Printer?


Let me know the answer to above before you delete  re-add the  
printer.


I think you need to Delete the printer from Print  Fax System  
Preferences, then re-add the printer.


When you click on + (to add the Printer) If your Epson Color 740  
shows, select it to see its settings.
If your mac has the correct driver, it displays in the Print  
using popup menu.
If no driver appears, choose Select a Driver to use a driver  
already installed on your Mac.

A list then appears for you to choose from.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 2:13 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It says Driver version: 1.0

Thanks

Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 2:06 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Ok thanks Walter,

Before I suggest you delete the Printer from Print  Fax  
Preferences  then re-add the printer.
Please let me know what driver version it is saying under the  
General tab?


Cheers,
Ronni
On 20/09/2009, at 1:59 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

Yes its updated to 10.6.1 this morning and printer is  
connected via USB - it was before the SL installation and it  
worked ok.


Cheers,
Walter
On 20/09/2009, at 1:53 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Is the Printer connected to your mac by USB or how?
And have you updated to 10.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 1:45 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

No, I can get into the Options + Supplies window which has  
3 tabs: General, Driver + Supply Levels
Clicking on Driver shows the information: Print using:  
EPSON Stylus COLOR 740 (not highlighted but grey)

It won't let me scroll for other drivers.
It also has the comment: The driver and optional hardware  
settings for shared printers can not be modified.
So earlier I changed the option in Sharing to printer  
sharing off. But it didn't change anything.


Thanks

Cheers,
Walter


As I said before its just the name of the printer
On 20/09/2009, at 1:29 , Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Walter,

Are you saying you can't click Options  Supplies to show  
the Printer Driver you are using?


On 20/09/2009, at 1:21 PM, F.W. Hänel wrote:



Hi Ronni,

It shows: EPSON Stylus COLOR 740. Its shaded - not  
highlighted
I  had a look this morning trying to 

transferring movie clips

2009-09-20 Thread Adrian Skehan


Afternoon all,

I have been trying to transfer some iMovie Events from an external  
BackUp HD to a portable HD, some of them copy across OK but others  
come up with the following error message:  The operation can’t be  
completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code 0). The  
ones that are the problem all seem to be .dv files.  Opening them wit  
QT and saving as any other format fails.  Any suggestions?







Regards,

Adrian
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Faxing in Leopard

2009-09-20 Thread Severin Crisp


I need to send faxes on an occasional basis from my G5 (10.5.8) and  
have been doing this by sharing the internal modem in my wife's G3  
iMac which is networked via the usual arrangement with an ethernet  
router.   This works fine but has a degree of inconvenience.
To overcome that I purchased a neat Apple USB external modem which is  
plugged into a powered USB hub and is showing up correctly in System  
Profiler (drawing 50mA of the 500mA available).  The phone cable that  
was plugged into the iMac is now plugged into the modem so the phone  
side is unchanged.  When sending a fax in the usual way all seems  
normal and the Dialling... Dialling... message shows in the Menu  
Bar.  This just goes on and apparently times out and the fax reverts  
to hold.  I have tested this to known not engaged, functional  
numbers.  It is in fact dialling, if I pretend to send a fax to my own  
mobile, it rings.  Apparently it is unable to initiate a pick up and  
connect.  I can find nothing of help in settings for network or modem  
nor at Apple Support.
I  have not tried plugging directly in to USB port rather than a hub,  
cable lengths and layout make this difficult for a quick try.

Any advice on this Sunday afternoon puzzler would be welcome.
Severin Crisp


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Re: transferring movie clips

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown



On 20/09/2009, at 4:13 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:



Afternoon all,

I have been trying to transfer some iMovie Events from an external  
BackUp HD to a portable HD, some of them copy across OK but others  
come up with the following error message:  The operation can’t be  
completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code 0). The  
ones that are the problem all seem to be .dv files.  Opening them  
wit QT and saving as any other format fails.  Any suggestions?


Hello Adrian,

What format is the Portable HD?
Your external hard drive to hold video files in a format that iMovie  
likes ... it has to be (Mac OSX Extended - Journaled)


You don't say what version of iMovie that you are trying to move the  
Events.

iMovie ’08: Moving iMovie footage to another drive:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1026

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard



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Re: transferring movie clips

2009-09-20 Thread Adrian Skehan


Thanks Ronni,  it occurred to me minutes after I posted that the disk  
format may be the problem so I formatted it Mac OSX Extended -  
Journaled and it is transferring OK now.



Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com

On 20/09/2009, at 4:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 20/09/2009, at 4:13 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:



Afternoon all,

I have been trying to transfer some iMovie Events from an external  
BackUp HD to a portable HD, some of them copy across OK but others  
come up with the following error message:  The operation can’t be  
completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code 0). The  
ones that are the problem all seem to be .dv files.  Opening them  
wit QT and saving as any other format fails.  Any suggestions?


Hello Adrian,

What format is the Portable HD?
Your external hard drive to hold video files in a format that iMovie  
likes ... it has to be (Mac OSX Extended - Journaled)


You don't say what version of iMovie that you are trying to move the  
Events.

iMovie ’08: Moving iMovie footage to another drive:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1026

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard



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Re: Faxing in Leopard

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown



On 20/09/2009, at 4:41 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



I need to send faxes on an occasional basis from my G5 (10.5.8) and  
have been doing this by sharing the internal modem in my wife's G3  
iMac which is networked via the usual arrangement with an ethernet  
router.   This works fine but has a degree of inconvenience.
To overcome that I purchased a neat Apple USB external modem which  
is plugged into a powered USB hub and is showing up correctly in  
System Profiler (drawing 50mA of the 500mA available).  The phone  
cable that was plugged into the iMac is now plugged into the modem  
so the phone side is unchanged.  When sending a fax in the usual way  
all seems normal and the Dialling... Dialling... message shows in  
the Menu Bar.  This just goes on and apparently times out and the  
fax reverts to hold.  I have tested this to known not engaged,  
functional numbers.  It is in fact dialling, if I pretend to send a  
fax to my own mobile, it rings.  Apparently it is unable to initiate  
a pick up and connect.  I can find nothing of help in settings for  
network or modem nor at Apple Support.
I  have not tried plugging directly in to USB port rather than a  
hub, cable lengths and layout make this difficult for a quick try.

Any advice on this Sunday afternoon puzzler would be welcome.
Severin Crisp


Hello Severin,

Lots of people experiencing Fax sending problems in OS X 10.5.8 on  
Apple Discussions  Printing, faxing and scanning.

Some solutions might work for you here:
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=f1224search=Goq=Apple+USB+external+modem 



Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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Re: Faxing in Leopard

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown


Hi Severin,

Did you try one of the suggestions just to get your Fax sent:

Each time you want to send a fax you need to go into System  
Preferences, Print  Fax, choose External Modem, click on Receive  
Options, then untick Receive Faxes – then you can switch to the  
document you want to fax and print it.


Once the fax has fully completed, you have to go back and re-tick  
Receive Faxes.


If you have Receive Faxes ticked in System Preferences when you are  
trying to send a fax, it causes the fax queue to hang and only a  
reboot can resolve the issue. Simply deleting the job from the queue  
does nothing.


We are using the official Apple USB Modem and latest software in a  
medical clinic, so the fax is very important to us.


Applecare has assured us the issue is being working on – who can tell  
when it will be resolved.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 20/09/2009, at 5:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


On 20/09/2009, at 4:41 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



I need to send faxes on an occasional basis from my G5 (10.5.8) and  
have been doing this by sharing the internal modem in my wife's G3  
iMac which is networked via the usual arrangement with an ethernet  
router.   This works fine but has a degree of inconvenience.
To overcome that I purchased a neat Apple USB external modem which  
is plugged into a powered USB hub and is showing up correctly in  
System Profiler (drawing 50mA of the 500mA available).  The phone  
cable that was plugged into the iMac is now plugged into the modem  
so the phone side is unchanged.  When sending a fax in the usual  
way all seems normal and the Dialling... Dialling... message  
shows in the Menu Bar.  This just goes on and apparently times out  
and the fax reverts to hold.  I have tested this to known not  
engaged, functional numbers.  It is in fact dialling, if I pretend  
to send a fax to my own mobile, it rings.  Apparently it is unable  
to initiate a pick up and connect.  I can find nothing of help in  
settings for network or modem nor at Apple Support.
I  have not tried plugging directly in to USB port rather than a  
hub, cable lengths and layout make this difficult for a quick try.

Any advice on this Sunday afternoon puzzler would be welcome.
Severin Crisp


Hello Severin,

Lots of people experiencing Fax sending problems in OS X 10.5.8 on  
Apple Discussions  Printing, faxing and scanning.

Some solutions might work for you here:
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=f1224search=Goq=Apple+USB+external+modem 



Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard




Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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message from Discus.

2009-09-20 Thread KEVIN Lock


As a registered user of Discus, I received a mailout which addressed 
problems with Discus and operating systems.  Interesting?


The following is the message received

At 1:18 AM + 20/9/09, discus world users wrote:

Discus User Alert

Dear registered Discus user, we have seen a flurry of tech support 
inquiries in recent weeks about compatibility with Macintosh OSX 
10.6 (Snow Leopard) and also Windows users calling about quicktime 
issues if they install iTunes 9, as well as information about the 
upcoming Windows 7 system.


Rest assured that whenever a major system change occurs, we will 
make any necessary changes to Discus immediately and post a new 
version on our website at www.magicmouse.com under the Download 
Updates section.  The latest Discus version is 4.24.


To our knowledge Discus 4 appears to be running fine. 

We are seeing huge numbers of problems with Snow Leopard in general 
however as Apple really bungled their recent release.  Apple had to 
rush out a service pack (6.1) to prevent a riot, and many defects 
remain.  If your livelihood depends on smooth functioning of your 
Macintosh, please avoid installing Snow Leopard until 6.2 is 
released. Snow 6.0 almost completely ruined printing.  If you have 
already installed Snow, be sure to download the latest versions of 
printer drivers, many companies like Epson updated their drivers 
after Snow shipped, and some like DYMO have not yet released Snow 
drivers.


We are old hands at computers, going back to the punch card era, and 
can state with authority that if you value your time and would like 
to avoid unnecessary frustration in your life, we recommend that you 
NOT UPGRADE TO ANY NEW OPERATING SYSTEM UNTIL SIX MONTHS HAVE 
PASSED.  The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's Snow 
Leopard and immediately installed it were greeted with hundreds of 
terrible bugs.  It was reckless of Apple not to test their system 
more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers.


When you immediately upgrade to a major new operating system version 
you are basically volunteering to be an unpaid tester for the 
supplier.  Unlike bran muffins fresh operating system versions are 
not better - they are more like wine which benefits from age. 
Operating systems are among the most complex projects ever attempted 
with hundreds if not thousands of man years of work inside, and 
every major system shipping today went out the door with tens of 
thousands of known defects.  Both Apple and Microsoft have a bug 
tracking system and the managers at Apple and Microsoft know full 
well that their products are riddled with defects but market forces 
dictate that they ship on a fixed calendar schedule regardless of 
the consequences to the customer, and if they waited until the 
product was flawless it would never ship at all.


Approximately 35% of the laptops containing Vista were downgraded to 
XP.  And this is after an entire year of vista on the street.


There are two places you can be in the computer world - the bleeding 
edge and the trailing edge, and we recommend to all our customers to 
buy proven hardware technologies that are least two years old and 
try to stay behind in operating systems until you start to hit 
problems because you are too far behind.  When you stay behind a bit 
you enjoy low prices, complete reliability, and lots of technical 
help.




Regards,

The Discus Support Team



Kevin



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VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Christopher S


Hi Guys,

Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM Monday 21
September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
this is quite a saving if you¹re in the market for Fusion/Parallels.

Chris.




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Re: message from Discus.

2009-09-20 Thread Ronda Brown


Hi Kevin,

Yes, I received this negative email from Discus. I don't agree with  
their assessment of Snow Leopard.
The majority of problems people are having are caused by not doing the  
preparation before upgrading their System, and other Vendor's  
software, add-ons, plugins , etc.


It is not up to Apple to make sure non-apple software is compatible  
with Snow Leopard it is up to the Vendor.
Most major software companies were very quick to release Snow Leopard  
compatible version of their software.


This comment:
The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's Snow Leopard  
and immediately installed it were greeted with hundreds of  
terrible bugs.  It was reckless of Apple not to test their system  
more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers.


Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to  
millions of paying customers  what a load of rubbish that is!


Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard is designed to protect your Mac from  
certain incompatible software that can quit unexpectedly or cause  
other issues in Mac OS X v10.6.


When you install Snow Leopard or migrate to Snow Leopard, known- 
incompatible software is moved to a folder named Incompatible Software  
on your hard drive.


Snow Leopard also prevents known-incompatible software from opening.   
If you see an Incompatible software message, contact the software's  
vendor or visit their website for a later, compatible version.


Apple certainly with Snow Leopard, have protected people from using  
incompatible software.


Cheers,
Ronni



On 21/09/2009, at 7:55 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote:



As a registered user of Discus, I received a mailout which addressed  
problems with Discus and operating systems.  Interesting?


The following is the message received

At 1:18 AM + 20/9/09, discus world users wrote:

Discus User Alert

Dear registered Discus user, we have seen a flurry of tech support  
inquiries in recent weeks about compatibility with Macintosh OSX  
10.6 (Snow Leopard) and also Windows users calling about quicktime  
issues if they install iTunes 9, as well as information about the  
upcoming Windows 7 system.


Rest assured that whenever a major system change occurs, we will  
make any necessary changes to Discus immediately and post a new  
version on our website at www.magicmouse.com under the Download  
Updates section.  The latest Discus version is 4.24.


To our knowledge Discus 4 appears to be running fine.
We are seeing huge numbers of problems with Snow Leopard in general  
however as Apple really bungled their recent release.  Apple had to  
rush out a service pack (6.1) to prevent a riot, and many defects  
remain.  If your livelihood depends on smooth functioning of your  
Macintosh, please avoid installing Snow Leopard until 6.2 is  
released. Snow 6.0 almost completely ruined printing.  If you have  
already installed Snow, be sure to download the latest versions of  
printer drivers, many companies like Epson updated their drivers  
after Snow shipped, and some like DYMO have not yet released Snow  
drivers.


We are old hands at computers, going back to the punch card era,  
and can state with authority that if you value your time and would  
like to avoid unnecessary frustration in your life, we recommend  
that you NOT UPGRADE TO ANY NEW OPERATING SYSTEM UNTIL SIX MONTHS  
HAVE PASSED.  The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's  
Snow Leopard and immediately installed it were greeted with  
hundreds of terrible bugs.  It was reckless of Apple not to test  
their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of  
paying customers.


When you immediately upgrade to a major new operating system  
version you are basically volunteering to be an unpaid tester for  
the supplier.  Unlike bran muffins fresh operating system versions  
are not better - they are more like wine which benefits from age.  
Operating systems are among the most complex projects ever  
attempted with hundreds if not thousands of man years of work  
inside, and every major system shipping today went out the door  
with tens of thousands of known defects.  Both Apple and Microsoft  
have a bug tracking system and the managers at Apple and Microsoft  
know full well that their products are riddled with defects but  
market forces dictate that they ship on a fixed calendar schedule  
regardless of the consequences to the customer, and if they waited  
until the product was flawless it would never ship at all.


Approximately 35% of the laptops containing Vista were downgraded  
to XP.  And this is after an entire year of vista on the street.


There are two places you can be in the computer world - the  
bleeding edge and the trailing edge, and we recommend to all our  
customers to buy proven hardware technologies that are least two  
years old and try to stay behind in operating systems until you  
start to hit problems because you are too far behind.  When you  
stay behind 

Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Peter Curtis



Hi
I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run  
on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've  
bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got  
around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now might  
be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a  
reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of  
windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in choosing  
what program I use?

Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Peter
On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:





Hi Guys,

Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM Monday 21
September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
this is quite a saving if you’re in the market for Fusion/Parallels.

Chris.




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Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Christopher S

Hi Peter

I've used the current versions of Parallels and Fusion and Sun's VirtualBox
(which is free) and they are all pretty good virtual machines. Unless you
are talking the latest Windows games I would think any of the above would be
fine for most apps. Games may run best in Fusion but BootCamp is probably
the better option - that is of course debatable.

There is a big caveat with all three and that is that you need to own a copy
of Windows to install in the virtual machine.

If it's only a couple of apps that you need like the ATO Tax App then I'd
probably suggest Sun's VirtualBox.

Regards,

Chris.



 From: Peter Curtis pcur...@aapt.net.au
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:57:06 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today
 
 Hi
 I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run
 on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've
 bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got
 around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now might
 be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a
 reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of
 windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in choosing
 what program I use?
 Thanks in anticipation.
 Regards
 Peter
 On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM Monday 21
 September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
 this is quite a saving if you¹re in the market for Fusion/Parallels.
 




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Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi Peter,

Out of interest, did you use all three just to compare the different
applications - or do you use different VMs for different tasks.

What, if any, would you rate as the particular pros/cons or points of
difference of the three approaches - other than the obvious cost advantage
of Sun's VirtualBox.

I've only ever run Parallels 3.0 - just because it seemed to be the one
everyone recommended at the time that I purchased it - I had a lot of
trouble at the time upgrading my XP Pro VM (imported from Virtual PC) to SP2
but once I got that sorted (thank you Peter Hinchcliffe!) it seems to do OK
so I didn't look any further.


However, I suppose that at some point (SL upgrade?) I will need to look at
upgrading from Parallels 3.0 - so I suppose that will be a good time to also
look at the alternatives.



Cheers



Neil

-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 21/9/09 10:12 AM, Christopher S at c...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 Hi Peter
 
 I've used the current versions of Parallels and Fusion and Sun's VirtualBox
 (which is free) and they are all pretty good virtual machines. Unless you
 are talking the latest Windows games I would think any of the above would be
 fine for most apps. Games may run best in Fusion but BootCamp is probably
 the better option - that is of course debatable.
 
 There is a big caveat with all three and that is that you need to own a copy
 of Windows to install in the virtual machine.
 
 If it's only a couple of apps that you need like the ATO Tax App then I'd
 probably suggest Sun's VirtualBox.
 
 Regards,
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 From: Peter Curtis pcur...@aapt.net.au
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:57:06 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today
 
 Hi
 I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run
 on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've
 bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got
 around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now might
 be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a
 reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of
 windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in choosing
 what program I use?
 Thanks in anticipation.
 Regards
 Peter
 On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM Monday 21
 September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
 this is quite a saving if you¹re in the market for Fusion/Parallels.
 




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Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Peter Curtis



Hi Chris
Thanks for your response. The main program I run is OziExplorer and  
another minor mapping programs. Do you need to buy Windows for all the  
programs? and if so, would I be better off buying XP the same as I use  
at the moment or the latest system.

Regards
Peter
On 21/09/2009, at 10:12 AM, Christopher S wrote:




Hi Peter

I've used the current versions of Parallels and Fusion and Sun's  
VirtualBox
(which is free) and they are all pretty good virtual machines.  
Unless you
are talking the latest Windows games I would think any of the above  
would be
fine for most apps. Games may run best in Fusion but BootCamp is  
probably

the better option - that is of course debatable.

There is a big caveat with all three and that is that you need to  
own a copy

of Windows to install in the virtual machine.

If it's only a couple of apps that you need like the ATO Tax App  
then I'd

probably suggest Sun's VirtualBox.

Regards,

Chris.




From: Peter Curtis pcur...@aapt.net.au
Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:57:06 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

Hi
I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run
on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've
bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got
around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now  
might

be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a
reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of
windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in  
choosing

what program I use?
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Peter
On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:


Hi Guys,

Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM  
Monday 21

September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
this is quite a saving if you’re in the market for Fusion/Parallels.






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Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Clyde McLennan


Hi,
   I would be interested to hear as Neil suggested a comparison of  
the three VM systems.


   I use Parallels v4 a lot - mainly for some music software (editors  
and wave manipulating that suits my needs), and run Windows Explorer  
just to test my web page changes run under Explorer.

For SL, you need to run the latest v4, and upgrades are about US$40.

   I use the Parallels 'coherence' mode, which tries to make Windows  
applications run just work like any Mac program.  In a sense they do,  
apart from the Window program menus are still attached to the window  
(rather than at the top of the screen) and the window close button in  
on the right (instead of the Mac on the left).


   Also found that the Parallels help desk very helpful and prompt.

   The only problem I have encountered with windows applications  
running Parallels, is that time critical applications (like playing  
music) suffer especially if you are doing internet access at the same  
time.  This is understandable, and is not really a problem to me.


   I tried the pre-release versions of Win 7, and they worked well  
under Parallels, although I had some problems with printer drivers  
(sounds familiar) - but the help desk was very helpful.  Also found  
Parallels great for playing around with versions of Linux - just out  
of interest to see if it is yet a serious contender to Windows or OSX.


   I tried VMWare but didn't feel there was anything that made me  
want to change.


The free Sun's virtual box sounds interesting.

 Cheers  ... Clyde



On 21/09/2009, at 10:47 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:



Hi Peter,

Out of interest, did you use all three just to compare the different
applications - or do you use different VMs for different tasks.

What, if any, would you rate as the particular pros/cons or points of
difference of the three approaches - other than the obvious cost  
advantage

of Sun's VirtualBox.

I've only ever run Parallels 3.0 - just because it seemed to be the  
one

everyone recommended at the time that I purchased it - I had a lot of
trouble at the time upgrading my XP Pro VM (imported from Virtual  
PC) to SP2
but once I got that sorted (thank you Peter Hinchcliffe!) it seems  
to do OK

so I didn't look any further.


However, I suppose that at some point (SL upgrade?) I will need to  
look at
upgrading from Parallels 3.0 - so I suppose that will be a good time  
to also

look at the alternatives.



Cheers



Neil

--
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 21/9/09 10:12 AM, Christopher S at c...@iinet.net.au wrote:



Hi Peter

I've used the current versions of Parallels and Fusion and Sun's  
VirtualBox
(which is free) and they are all pretty good virtual machines.  
Unless you
are talking the latest Windows games I would think any of the above  
would be
fine for most apps. Games may run best in Fusion but BootCamp is  
probably

the better option - that is of course debatable.

There is a big caveat with all three and that is that you need to  
own a copy

of Windows to install in the virtual machine.

If it's only a couple of apps that you need like the ATO Tax App  
then I'd

probably suggest Sun's VirtualBox.

Regards,

Chris.




From: Peter Curtis pcur...@aapt.net.au
Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:57:06 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

Hi
I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run
on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've
bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got
around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now  
might

be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a
reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of
windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in  
choosing

what program I use?
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Peter
On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:


Hi Guys,

Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM  
Monday 21

September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
this is quite a saving if you’re in the market for Fusion/ 
Parallels.







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Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Neil Houghton

Sorry, this obviously should have been directed to Chris, rather than Peter.

Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 21/9/09 10:47 AM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:

 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Out of interest, did you use all three just to compare the different
 applications - or do you use different VMs for different tasks.
 
 What, if any, would you rate as the particular pros/cons or points of
 difference of the three approaches - other than the obvious cost advantage
 of Sun's VirtualBox.
 
 I've only ever run Parallels 3.0 - just because it seemed to be the one
 everyone recommended at the time that I purchased it - I had a lot of
 trouble at the time upgrading my XP Pro VM (imported from Virtual PC) to SP2
 but once I got that sorted (thank you Peter Hinchcliffe!) it seems to do OK
 so I didn't look any further.
 
 
 However, I suppose that at some point (SL upgrade?) I will need to look at
 upgrading from Parallels 3.0 - so I suppose that will be a good time to also
 look at the alternatives.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 on 21/9/09 10:12 AM, Christopher S at c...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi Peter
 
 I've used the current versions of Parallels and Fusion and Sun's VirtualBox
 (which is free) and they are all pretty good virtual machines. Unless you
 are talking the latest Windows games I would think any of the above would be
 fine for most apps. Games may run best in Fusion but BootCamp is probably
 the better option - that is of course debatable.
 
 There is a big caveat with all three and that is that you need to own a copy
 of Windows to install in the virtual machine.
 
 If it's only a couple of apps that you need like the ATO Tax App then I'd
 probably suggest Sun's VirtualBox.
 
 Regards,
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 From: Peter Curtis pcur...@aapt.net.au
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:57:06 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today
 
 Hi
 I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run
 on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've
 bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got
 around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now might
 be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a
 reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of
 windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in choosing
 what program I use?
 Thanks in anticipation.
 Regards
 Peter
 On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM Monday 21
 September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
 this is quite a saving if you¹re in the market for Fusion/Parallels.
 
 
 





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Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

2009-09-20 Thread Barry Sexstone


Peter

I have found OziExplorer runs without a hitch using both VMWare fusion  
and Parallels with Windows XP.


Barry

On 21/09/2009, at 10:48 AM, Peter Curtis wrote:




Hi Chris
Thanks for your response. The main program I run is OziExplorer and  
another minor mapping programs. Do you need to buy Windows for all  
the programs? and if so, would I be better off buying XP the same as  
I use at the moment or the latest system.

Regards
Peter
On 21/09/2009, at 10:12 AM, Christopher S wrote:




Hi Peter

I've used the current versions of Parallels and Fusion and Sun's  
VirtualBox
(which is free) and they are all pretty good virtual machines.  
Unless you
are talking the latest Windows games I would think any of the above  
would be
fine for most apps. Games may run best in Fusion but BootCamp is  
probably

the better option - that is of course debatable.

There is a big caveat with all three and that is that you need to  
own a copy

of Windows to install in the virtual machine.

If it's only a couple of apps that you need like the ATO Tax App  
then I'd

probably suggest Sun's VirtualBox.

Regards,

Chris.




From: Peter Curtis pcur...@aapt.net.au
Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:57:06 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion $41 till 11.30am today

Hi
I need to run windoze for a couple of applications that can't be run
on a Mac and currently use a small windows laptop. Now that I've
bought a intel Mac I intend to run windoze on it but haven't got
around to choosing which program to use. This email suggests now  
might

be the time to make up my mind. The question is: Is VMWare Fusion a
reasonable program to use for someone who wants to run a couple of
windoze programs on their Mac? or should I be more careful in  
choosing

what program I use?
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Peter
On 21/09/2009, at 9:38 AM, Christopher S wrote:


Hi Guys,

Just a heads up Vmware Fusion 2.0.5 is US$34.95 till 11.30AM  
Monday 21

September at this site: http://www.mupromo.com/deal/960/4438/vmware-fusion
this is quite a saving if you’re in the market for Fusion/ 
Parallels.







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