Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi all,

I just got a new 27iMac i7 (Merry Xmas to me!) and The first question from
she-who-must-be-obeyed was why do you need a new one - the old one is only
2 years old - what are you going to do with it?!

Peace and harmony was restored when I pointed out that the old windows
machine that her Mum uses was so slow you kept thinking the thing had
crashed and how nice it would be to pass on the nice shiny 24 iMac to her
(coincidentally it would also be nice to have access to a nice Mac when we
visit her in Perth - which we do fairly frequently).

So far, so good. However the new machine obviously came with SL and not all
my software is SL compatible, also after many successive migrations and
system upgrades I decided it would be nice to set-up SL slowly from scratch
with regard to applications and user data (rather than just migrate
everything from the old machine to the new machine).

I am also wanting to re-organise my document/data filing sustem as I intend
to incorporate some form of cloud back-up/synchronisation using something
like iDisk or Dropbox (or both) as both an extra layer of back-up redundancy
and as a convenient way of keeping some data synched between my desktop 
laptop computer.

I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
- Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
- Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
- Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
partition to suit my back-up regime)

As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the SL
partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and settings
just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL compliant.

Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw in
my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
Leopard! - it seems to require SL!

I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS killed
off VBA and I use quite a few macros.

However, to get to the point (finally, I hear you say!) what I was wondering
was how will everything go if I boot up in SL (partition 1) and attempt to
run my old applications from their current location in the applications
folder on partition 2 (the cloned Leopard folder) - this would only be an
interim thing - as I confirmed that things ran OK under SL (with Rosetta if
necessary) I would then install the apps in their correct location (the apps
folder on partition 1).

The idea would be that everything I wanted/needed would be gradually
transferred from partition 2 to partition 1 (in the case of data/documents)
or installed on partition 1 and then deleted from partition 2 (in the case
of applications) and any old/obsolete stuff just deleted from partition 2.

I would obviously set up the new SL installation with the same accounts as
the old Leopard installation - to minimise any permissions problems with
accessing the old user folders on partition 2

When everything is off partition 2 I would clean/erase it and use it as a
second media partition.

However, I am aware that OSX can be a bit picky with where you put certain
things - so I was wondering if I was likely to run into any particular
problems in the interim as I gradually move stuff of the old partition to
the new one?
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




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Re: iPhone

2009-12-13 Thread Kim Maher
Andrew

Thanks for your help, it is appreciated.

Regards

Kim 

iMac 24”
Intel Core 2 Duo
MacBook Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo
iPhone 3GS 32GB
iPhone 3G 16GB
iTouch 16GB
OS X Snow Leopard

On 13/12/2009, at 10:13 AM, Andrew wrote:

 You can get composite (red/white/yellow) or component (red/green/blue for 
 video and red/white for audio) connectors from Apple shops.
 The latter will give the best result if you have the connections on your tv. 
 After market ones are also available from JB HiFi etc.
 The benefit of the genuine ones is they come with a USB mains plug and cable 
 built in so you are charging at the same time.
 I have had good results with mine (I got the red/white/yellow) with 
 downloaded AVIs on a 90 screen running through a hard drive recorder to a 
 projector.
 RGB is definately better if you want the best result.
 Andrew
 
 
 
 
 On 13/12/2009, at 8:00 AM, Kim Maher wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 Has anyone achieved or has an idea how to connect a iPhone 3GS 32GB to a TV 
 to watch movies etc?  I thank you all in advance.
 
 Regards
 
 Kim 
 
 iMac 24”
 Intel Core 2 Duo
 MacBook Pro
 Intel Core 2 Duo
 iPhone 32GB
 iPhone 16GB
 iTouch 16GB
 OS X Snow Leopard
 
 
 
 
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NDF files ??

2009-12-13 Thread Stephen Chape


Hi people,

Our pay office has switched to a payroll package that emails payslips  
to employees as NDF files (Neller).

It cannot be opened by anything at work or on my Mac at home.
Has anyone any idea re this ?
Have Googled readers but not with any success.

Regards,
Stephen Chape



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Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Ronda Brown


On 13/12/2009, at 3:56 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 
 I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
 whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
 - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
 - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
 - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
 partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
 As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
 everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the SL
 partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
 partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and settings
 just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL compliant.
 
 Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw in
 my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
 Leopard! - it seems to require SL!
 
 I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
 machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
 compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
 much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
 programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
 where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS killed
 off VBA and I use quite a few macros.
 
 However, to get to the point (finally, I hear you say!) what I was wondering
 was how will everything go if I boot up in SL (partition 1) and attempt to
 run my old applications from their current location in the applications
 folder on partition 2 (the cloned Leopard folder) - this would only be an
 interim thing - as I confirmed that things ran OK under SL (with Rosetta if
 necessary) I would then install the apps in their correct location (the apps
 folder on partition 1).
 
 The idea would be that everything I wanted/needed would be gradually
 transferred from partition 2 to partition 1 (in the case of data/documents)
 or installed on partition 1 and then deleted from partition 2 (in the case
 of applications) and any old/obsolete stuff just deleted from partition 2.
 
 I would obviously set up the new SL installation with the same accounts as
 the old Leopard installation - to minimise any permissions problems with
 accessing the old user folders on partition 2
 
 When everything is off partition 2 I would clean/erase it and use it as a
 second media partition.
 
 However, I am aware that OSX can be a bit picky with where you put certain
 things - so I was wondering if I was likely to run into any particular
 problems in the interim as I gradually move stuff of the old partition to
 the new one?

Hi Neil,

This is purely my own thoughts  preferences, others might disagree ;-)
I guess it's what suits your needs.

I feel you will run into problems with the Leopard Clone being a Partition on 
the Snow Leopard iMac.
I would prefer to have it on an External Firewire Drive, then you can boot 
Leopard from it.

Personally I don't partition my internal drive. I find Leopard  Snow Leopard 
run faster and cleaner on non-partitioned drives.
I would partition an external drive into 2 partitions, and have 1 partition for 
your cloned Leopard, and the other for your EyeTV Recordings.

Another problem with partitioning is you'll never be satisfied with the sizes. 
After you make them you'll want more here and less there etc. 

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Re: NDF files ??

2009-12-13 Thread Severin Crisp


Sounds like a really enlightened pay system - do you still get your  
money?

Severin Crisp


On 13/12/2009, at 4:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:



Hi people,

Our pay office has switched to a payroll package that emails  
payslips to employees as NDF files (Neller).

It cannot be opened by anything at work or on my Mac at home.
Has anyone any idea re this ?
Have Googled readers but not with any success.

Regards,
Stephen Chape



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Re: NDF files ??

2009-12-13 Thread Stephen Chape


Surprisingly  Yes !!

On 13/12/2009, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Sounds like a really enlightened pay system - do you still get your  
money?

Severin Crisp


On 13/12/2009, at 4:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:



Hi people,

Our pay office has switched to a payroll package that emails  
payslips to employees as NDF files (Neller).

It cannot be opened by anything at work or on my Mac at home.
Has anyone any idea re this ?
Have Googled readers but not with any success.

Regards,
Stephen Chape



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Re: NDF files ??

2009-12-13 Thread Roger Kortas
very interesting pay system!!

NDf is an SQL data file read below :)

SQL Server 2000 databases have three types of files: 

Primary data files 
The primary data file is the starting point of the database and points to 
the other files in the database. Every database has one primary data file. 
The recommended file name extension for primary data files is .mdf.

Secondary data files 
Secondary data files comprise all of the data files other than the primary 
data file. Some databases may not have any secondary data files, while others 
have multiple secondary data files. The recommended file name extension for 
secondary data files is .ndf.

Log files 
Log files hold all of the log information used to recover the database. 
There must be at least one log file for each database, although there can be 
more than one. The recommended file name extension for log files is .ldf.

SQL Server 2000 does not enforce the .mdf, .ndf, and .ldf file name 
extensions, but these extensions are recommended to help identify the use of 
the file.
On 13/12/2009, at 5:18 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 
 Surprisingly  Yes !!
 
 On 13/12/2009, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 
 Sounds like a really enlightened pay system - do you still get your money?
 Severin Crisp
 
 
 On 13/12/2009, at 4:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:
 
 
 Hi people,
 
 Our pay office has switched to a payroll package that emails payslips to 
 employees as NDF files (Neller).
 It cannot be opened by anything at work or on my Mac at home.
 Has anyone any idea re this ?
 Have Googled readers but not with any success.
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 
 
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Christmas BBQ

2009-12-13 Thread Marlene Oostryck

Hi All

Many thanks to all those who organised today's BBQ.

Tender melt-in-your-mouth steak, salads to die for, great company and  
a cool spot under an old gum tree


Looking forward to seeing you all in the New Year with my new-found  
Mac skills greatly improved from the holidays.


Regards

Marlene Oostryck
Ph: 9430 8006
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Re: NDF files ??

2009-12-13 Thread James Devenish

Hi,

I believe this would be Neller Document Format, and the employer
should have provided information about viewing the file. Not only is
it a proprietary format, I also don't know of a Mac viewer. Very
non-enlightened. http://www.neller.com.au/Page.asp?PID=64

James

On 13/12/2009, Roger Kortas rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 very interesting pay system!!

 NDf is an SQL data file read below :)

 SQL Server 2000 databases have three types of files:

 Primary data files
 The primary data file is the starting point of the database and points to
 the other files in the database. Every database has one primary data file.
 The recommended file name extension for primary data files is .mdf.

 Secondary data files
 Secondary data files comprise all of the data files other than the primary
 data file. Some databases may not have any secondary data files, while
 others
 have multiple secondary data files. The recommended file name extension for
 secondary data files is .ndf.

 Log files
 Log files hold all of the log information used to recover the database.
 There must be at least one log file for each database, although there can be
 more than one. The recommended file name extension for log files is .ldf.

 SQL Server 2000 does not enforce the .mdf, .ndf, and .ldf file name
 extensions, but these extensions are recommended to help identify the use of
 the file.
 On 13/12/2009, at 5:18 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:


 Surprisingly  Yes !!

 On 13/12/2009, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:


 Sounds like a really enlightened pay system - do you still get your
 money?
 Severin Crisp


 On 13/12/2009, at 4:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:


 Hi people,

 Our pay office has switched to a payroll package that emails payslips to
 employees as NDF files (Neller).
 It cannot be opened by anything at work or on my Mac at home.
 Has anyone any idea re this ?
 Have Googled readers but not with any success.

 Regards,
 Stephen Chape



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   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au
 




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Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Dark1

Hi Neil

There shouldn't be any problems running Office with rosetta.  Generally most 
apps run fine in SL with the exception of a few niche ones.  In terms of your 
backup system I'd advise you to get another hard drive (quiet cheap these days) 
rather than running with partitions because if your HD has a mechanical failure 
you'll lose all the data on every partition unless your prepared to pay vast 
amounts of money to have it fixed.

There are lots of SL updates available so you should check for them on any app 
that you have trouble running.

I don't think there's any real benefit in having EyeTV recordings on a separate 
partition since you can backup specific folders or, in the case of Time 
Machine, omit your EyeTV folder from backups.

In terms of running your apps from a separate partition they should function 
fine but you'll lose a bit of performance since your HD will have to read from 
2 separate locations on the disk to access the Apps and your system files.  You 
could always add a 10.5 Apps folder to your Applications folder and copy your 
old apps across there then move them out as you get them working with SL.

Hope this helps a bit
Ruben

 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got a new 27iMac i7 (Merry Xmas to me!) and The first question from
 she-who-must-be-obeyed was why do you need a new one - the old one is only
 2 years old - what are you going to do with it?!
 
 Peace and harmony was restored when I pointed out that the old windows
 machine that her Mum uses was so slow you kept thinking the thing had
 crashed and how nice it would be to pass on the nice shiny 24 iMac to her
 (coincidentally it would also be nice to have access to a nice Mac when we
 visit her in Perth - which we do fairly frequently).
 
 So far, so good. However the new machine obviously came with SL and not all
 my software is SL compatible, also after many successive migrations and
 system upgrades I decided it would be nice to set-up SL slowly from scratch
 with regard to applications and user data (rather than just migrate
 everything from the old machine to the new machine).
 
 I am also wanting to re-organise my document/data filing sustem as I intend
 to incorporate some form of cloud back-up/synchronisation using something
 like iDisk or Dropbox (or both) as both an extra layer of back-up redundancy
 and as a convenient way of keeping some data synched between my desktop 
 laptop computer.
 
 I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
 whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
 - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
 - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
 - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
 partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
 As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
 everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the SL
 partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
 partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and settings
 just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL compliant.
 
 Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw in
 my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
 Leopard! - it seems to require SL!
 
 I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
 machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
 compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
 much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
 programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
 where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS killed
 off VBA and I use quite a few macros.
 
 However, to get to the point (finally, I hear you say!) what I was wondering
 was how will everything go if I boot up in SL (partition 1) and attempt to
 run my old applications from their current location in the applications
 folder on partition 2 (the cloned Leopard folder) - this would only be an
 interim thing - as I confirmed that things ran OK under SL (with Rosetta if
 necessary) I would then install the apps in their correct location (the apps
 folder on partition 1).
 
 The idea would be that everything I wanted/needed would be gradually
 transferred from partition 2 to partition 1 (in the case of data/documents)
 or installed on partition 1 and then deleted from partition 2 (in the case
 of applications) and any old/obsolete stuff just deleted from partition 2.
 
 I would obviously set up the new SL installation with the same accounts as
 the old Leopard installation - to minimise any permissions problems with
 accessing the old user folders on partition 2
 
 When everything is off partition 2 I would clean/erase it and use it as a
 second media partition.
 
 However, I am aware that OSX can be a bit picky with where you put certain
 things - so I was wondering if I 

Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Joe Mastrella
Greetings!
If you are using or are planning to use multiple external HD make sure to
purchase HDs from different manufactures. Our club in California suggested
to our members that two external HD backups was three times as safe. Some of
our members purchased Western Digital (WD) HDs. Unfortunately WD had a batch
(large amount) of faulty drives shipped to the western US. You can see where
this is leading. I keep a  64 MG flash drive for very important backups of
files generated that day. Our data is important to us, be it photos, video,
music or documents. When you lose a terabite HD, It's a traumatic
experience. Be careful how you configure your back up strategies.

Cheers, Joe





On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Dark1 da...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 Hi Neil

 There shouldn't be any problems running Office with rosetta.  Generally
 most apps run fine in SL with the exception of a few niche ones.  In terms
 of your backup system I'd advise you to get another hard drive (quiet cheap
 these days) rather than running with partitions because if your HD has a
 mechanical failure you'll lose all the data on every partition unless your
 prepared to pay vast amounts of money to have it fixed.

 There are lots of SL updates available so you should check for them on any
 app that you have trouble running.

 I don't think there's any real benefit in having EyeTV recordings on a
 separate partition since you can backup specific folders or, in the case of
 Time Machine, omit your EyeTV folder from backups.

 In terms of running your apps from a separate partition they should
 function fine but you'll lose a bit of performance since your HD will have
 to read from 2 separate locations on the disk to access the Apps and your
 system files.  You could always add a 10.5 Apps folder to your
 Applications folder and copy your old apps across there then move them out
 as you get them working with SL.

 Hope this helps a bit
 Ruben

 
  Hi all,
 
  I just got a new 27iMac i7 (Merry Xmas to me!) and The first question
 from
  she-who-must-be-obeyed was why do you need a new one - the old one is
 only
  2 years old - what are you going to do with it?!
 
  Peace and harmony was restored when I pointed out that the old windows
  machine that her Mum uses was so slow you kept thinking the thing had
  crashed and how nice it would be to pass on the nice shiny 24 iMac to
 her
  (coincidentally it would also be nice to have access to a nice Mac when
 we
  visit her in Perth - which we do fairly frequently).
 
  So far, so good. However the new machine obviously came with SL and not
 all
  my software is SL compatible, also after many successive migrations and
  system upgrades I decided it would be nice to set-up SL slowly from
 scratch
  with regard to applications and user data (rather than just migrate
  everything from the old machine to the new machine).
 
  I am also wanting to re-organise my document/data filing sustem as I
 intend
  to incorporate some form of cloud back-up/synchronisation using something
  like iDisk or Dropbox (or both) as both an extra layer of back-up
 redundancy
  and as a convenient way of keeping some data synched between my desktop 
  laptop computer.
 
  I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
  whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
  - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
  - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
  - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
  partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
  As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
  everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the
 SL
  partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
  partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and
 settings
  just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL
 compliant.
 
  Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw
 in
  my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
  Leopard! - it seems to require SL!
 
  I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
  machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
  compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
  much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
  programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
  where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS
 killed
  off VBA and I use quite a few macros.
 
  However, to get to the point (finally, I hear you say!) what I was
 wondering
  was how will everything go if I boot up in SL (partition 1) and attempt
 to
  run my old applications from their current location in the applications
  folder on partition 2 (the cloned Leopard folder) - this would only be an
  interim thing - as I confirmed that things ran OK under SL (with 

Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Susan Hastings

Hi Neil, that was my thought, about installing Rosetta I mean. I can run  all 
of my old programs in SL using Rosetta, but you have to choose to install it 
from the disks, it doesn't happen automatically as with Leopard.

cheers, Susan.
On 13/12/2009, at 6:30 PM, Dark1 wrote:

 
 Hi Neil
 
 There shouldn't be any problems running Office with rosetta.  Generally most 
 apps run fine in SL with the exception of a few niche ones.  In terms of your 
 backup system I'd advise you to get another hard drive (quiet cheap these 
 days) rather than running with partitions because if your HD has a mechanical 
 failure you'll lose all the data on every partition unless your prepared to 
 pay vast amounts of money to have it fixed.
 
 There are lots of SL updates available so you should check for them on any 
 app that you have trouble running.
 
 I don't think there's any real benefit in having EyeTV recordings on a 
 separate partition since you can backup specific folders or, in the case of 
 Time Machine, omit your EyeTV folder from backups.
 
 In terms of running your apps from a separate partition they should function 
 fine but you'll lose a bit of performance since your HD will have to read 
 from 2 separate locations on the disk to access the Apps and your system 
 files.  You could always add a 10.5 Apps folder to your Applications folder 
 and copy your old apps across there then move them out as you get them 
 working with SL.
 
 Hope this helps a bit
 Ruben
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got a new 27iMac i7 (Merry Xmas to me!) and The first question from
 she-who-must-be-obeyed was why do you need a new one - the old one is only
 2 years old - what are you going to do with it?!
 
 Peace and harmony was restored when I pointed out that the old windows
 machine that her Mum uses was so slow you kept thinking the thing had
 crashed and how nice it would be to pass on the nice shiny 24 iMac to her
 (coincidentally it would also be nice to have access to a nice Mac when we
 visit her in Perth - which we do fairly frequently).
 
 So far, so good. However the new machine obviously came with SL and not all
 my software is SL compatible, also after many successive migrations and
 system upgrades I decided it would be nice to set-up SL slowly from scratch
 with regard to applications and user data (rather than just migrate
 everything from the old machine to the new machine).
 
 I am also wanting to re-organise my document/data filing sustem as I intend
 to incorporate some form of cloud back-up/synchronisation using something
 like iDisk or Dropbox (or both) as both an extra layer of back-up redundancy
 and as a convenient way of keeping some data synched between my desktop 
 laptop computer.
 
 I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
 whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
 - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
 - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
 - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
 partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
 As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
 everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the SL
 partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
 partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and settings
 just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL compliant.
 
 Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw in
 my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
 Leopard! - it seems to require SL!
 
 I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
 machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
 compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
 much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
 programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
 where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS killed
 off VBA and I use quite a few macros.
 
 However, to get to the point (finally, I hear you say!) what I was wondering
 was how will everything go if I boot up in SL (partition 1) and attempt to
 run my old applications from their current location in the applications
 folder on partition 2 (the cloned Leopard folder) - this would only be an
 interim thing - as I confirmed that things ran OK under SL (with Rosetta if
 necessary) I would then install the apps in their correct location (the apps
 folder on partition 1).
 
 The idea would be that everything I wanted/needed would be gradually
 transferred from partition 2 to partition 1 (in the case of data/documents)
 or installed on partition 1 and then deleted from partition 2 (in the case
 of applications) and any old/obsolete stuff just deleted from partition 2.
 
 I would obviously set up the new SL installation with the same accounts as
 the old Leopard 

Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi Ronni,

Thanks for the feedback.

Responses below against your comments.



on 13/12/09 4:41 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 
 On 13/12/2009, at 3:56 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 
 I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
 whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
 - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
 - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
 - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
 partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
 As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
 everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the SL
 partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
 partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and settings
 just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL compliant.
 
 Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw in
 my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
 Leopard! - it seems to require SL!
 
 I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
 machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
 compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
 much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
 programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
 where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS killed
 off VBA and I use quite a few macros.
 
 However, to get to the point (finally, I hear you say!) what I was wondering
 was how will everything go if I boot up in SL (partition 1) and attempt to
 run my old applications from their current location in the applications
 folder on partition 2 (the cloned Leopard folder) - this would only be an
 interim thing - as I confirmed that things ran OK under SL (with Rosetta if
 necessary) I would then install the apps in their correct location (the apps
 folder on partition 1).
 
 The idea would be that everything I wanted/needed would be gradually
 transferred from partition 2 to partition 1 (in the case of data/documents)
 or installed on partition 1 and then deleted from partition 2 (in the case
 of applications) and any old/obsolete stuff just deleted from partition 2.
 
 I would obviously set up the new SL installation with the same accounts as
 the old Leopard installation - to minimise any permissions problems with
 accessing the old user folders on partition 2
 
 When everything is off partition 2 I would clean/erase it and use it as a
 second media partition.
 
 However, I am aware that OSX can be a bit picky with where you put certain
 things - so I was wondering if I was likely to run into any particular
 problems in the interim as I gradually move stuff of the old partition to
 the new one?
 
 Hi Neil,
 
 This is purely my own thoughts  preferences, others might disagree ;-)
 I guess it's what suits your needs.
 
 I feel you will run into problems with the Leopard Clone being a Partition on
 the Snow Leopard iMac.
What kind of problems do you envisage?

 I would prefer to have it on an External Firewire Drive, then you can boot
 Leopard from it.

Well, I actually have both since I have an external 1TB firewire drive which
is partitioned to match the internal drive and I clone each internal
partition to it's corresponding partition on the external drive.

However, one of the problems with my original strategy is that the new i7
iMac will not boot up into Leopard, only Snow Leopard :(
(I tried it from the Leopard partition on both the internal drive and the
External Drive - and I know the cloned system on the external drive is OK
because the old 24 iMac boots from it but the new i7 iMac doesn't).

Interestingly, if I option start the i7 both the leopard and snow leopard
systems show up as selectable but, if I select a leopard system, then
start-up just hangs at the white screen with the Apple logo (but the moving
clock icon doesn't show). Also:
- running disc utility under SL and the Leopard partitions have the verify
permissions and repair permissions options greyed out.
- if I try to start the i7 using a Leopard installation DVD (to try a fresh
leopard install) it again refuses to boot from the Leopard installation DVD.

I am assuming that the new processor/hardware has certain requirements that
are built-in to SL but not Leopard - since there were no i5 or i7 Macs
available when Leopard was the current OS.


 Personally I don't partition my internal drive. I find Leopard  Snow Leopard
 run faster and cleaner on non-partitioned drives.
 I would partition an external drive into 2 partitions, and have 1 partition
 for your cloned Leopard, and the other for your EyeTV Recordings.
Yes, I hear what you are saying here - that's what I did with my 24 iMac
which has a 320GB HD - its just that (without the EyeTV recordings) I never
even came close to 

Re: Name Tags! Re: Annual WAMUG Christmas Barbecue: 13 December 2009

2009-12-13 Thread Ian Reid



On 13 Dec 2009, at 12:53 PM, kevin Lock wrote:


Sorry folks, I did turn up and circled Heathcote twice without seeing  
any likely groups.   The only people with name tags on seemed to be a  
small family group.   Maybe there should have been a WAMUG notice  
visible.


I'm sorry I missed catching up with the many people who have helped me  
over the years with my little projects.




Me too. Sorry folks. I was a quarter of an hour late and presumably  
the cooking had finished by then. I also circled twice and failed to  
recognize a familiar face from the monthly meetings. Perhaps I am  
getting too old and shouldn't be allowed out without a keeper. Next  
time I will obtain some phone numbers and plug them into my mobile,  
regrettably not an iPhone.


Regards and apologies

Ian Reid



regards,

Kevin


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Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Neil Houghton
Yes, thanks Joe ­ I currently have a mix of WD and LaCie and I¹m also
looking to have some ³cloud² back-up/synch for more critical stuff.


Cheers


Neil

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Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 13/12/09 7:22 PM, Joe Mastrella at joey.pots.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings!
 If you are using or are planning to use multiple external HD make sure to
 purchase HDs from different manufactures. Our club in California suggested to
 our members that two external HD backups was three times as safe. Some of our
 members purchased Western Digital (WD) HDs. Unfortunately WD had a batch
 (large amount) of faulty drives shipped to the western US. You can see where
 this is leading. I keep a  64 MG flash drive for very important backups of
 files generated that day. Our data is important to us, be it photos, video,
 music or documents. When you lose a terabite HD, It's a traumatic experience.
 Be careful how you configure your back up strategies.
 
 Cheers, Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Dark1 da...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Neil
 
 There shouldn't be any problems running Office with rosetta.  Generally most
 apps run fine in SL with the exception of a few niche ones.  In terms of your
 backup system I'd advise you to get another hard drive (quiet cheap these
 days) rather than running with partitions because if your HD has a mechanical
 failure you'll lose all the data on every partition unless your prepared to
 pay vast amounts of money to have it fixed.
 
 There are lots of SL updates available so you should check for them on any
 app that you have trouble running.
 
 I don't think there's any real benefit in having EyeTV recordings on a
 separate partition since you can backup specific folders or, in the case of
 Time Machine, omit your EyeTV folder from backups.
 
 In terms of running your apps from a separate partition they should function
 fine but you'll lose a bit of performance since your HD will have to read
 from 2 separate locations on the disk to access the Apps and your system
 files.  You could always add a 10.5 Apps folder to your Applications folder
 and copy your old apps across there then move them out as you get them
 working with SL.
 
 Hope this helps a bit
 Ruben
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I just got a new 27iMac i7 (Merry Xmas to me!) and The first question
 from
  she-who-must-be-obeyed was why do you need a new one - the old one is
 only
  2 years old - what are you going to do with it?!
 
  Peace and harmony was restored when I pointed out that the old windows
  machine that her Mum uses was so slow you kept thinking the thing had
  crashed and how nice it would be to pass on the nice shiny 24 iMac to her
  (coincidentally it would also be nice to have access to a nice Mac when we
  visit her in Perth - which we do fairly frequently).
 
  So far, so good. However the new machine obviously came with SL and not
 all
  my software is SL compatible, also after many successive migrations and
  system upgrades I decided it would be nice to set-up SL slowly from
 scratch
  with regard to applications and user data (rather than just migrate
  everything from the old machine to the new machine).
 
  I am also wanting to re-organise my document/data filing sustem as I
 intend
  to incorporate some form of cloud back-up/synchronisation using something
  like iDisk or Dropbox (or both) as both an extra layer of back-up
 redundancy
  and as a convenient way of keeping some data synched between my desktop 
  laptop computer.
 
  I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
  whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
  - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
  - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
  - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
  partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
  As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
  everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the
 SL
  partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
  partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps and settings
  just as they were on the 24 without any worry as to what was SL
 compliant.
 
  Now, many of the gurus out there will have already spotted the fatal flaw
 in
  my strategy - it appears that I can't actually boot up the new iMac in
  Leopard! - it seems to require SL!
 
  I have now passed on the bad news that I will need to hang onto the old
  machine for a while longer until I am happy that everything I need is SL
  compliant, or upgraded, or substituted - in general I do not foresee too
  much of a problem - I am happy with the move to SL and happy to upgrade
  programs such as Parallels  Reunion - my main bugbear will be MS Office
  where I have not upgraded from Office 2004 to Office 2008 because MS
 killed
  off VBA and I use quite a few macros.
 
  However, to get to the point 

Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Neil Houghton



on 13/12/09 6:30 PM, Dark1 at da...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 Hi Neil
 
 There shouldn't be any problems running Office with rosetta.  Generally most
 apps run fine in SL with the exception of a few niche ones.  In terms of your
 backup system I'd advise you to get another hard drive (quiet cheap these
 days) rather than running with partitions because if your HD has a mechanical
 failure you'll lose all the data on every partition unless your prepared to
 pay vast amounts of money to have it fixed.
Yes, I already have four 1TB external drives (more will no doubt eventually
follow). Primary back-up for all three partitions is a 1TB external firewire
drive with an identical partition scheme to the internal 1TB drive. Each
partition on the internal drive will be cloned to the corresponding
partition on the external drive - though, from a schedule point of view,
each partition will be separately cloned as required - depending on what I
have been working on. This will also be complemented with TM back-ups of
most of my stuff and I am also intending to incorporate some cloud
back-up/synch of some critical stuff.

 
 There are lots of SL updates available so you should check for them on any app
 that you have trouble running.
That's the plan. I've since found forum feedback that office 2004 WILL run
under SL - provided you address some issues(particularly some font conflicts
- so I have my fingers crossed here.

 
 I don't think there's any real benefit in having EyeTV recordings on a
 separate partition since you can backup specific folders or, in the case of
 Time Machine, omit your EyeTV folder from backups.
True, but since I clone the whole partition to let me get running again  in
the event of disc failure or restore to another machine in the event of a
more major machine malfunction, new EyeTV recordings would significantly
increase the cloning time - so I like to keep these separate with separate
priorities and schedules (losing a few EyeTV recording would be annoying but
not a real big deal).
 
 In terms of running your apps from a separate partition they should function
 fine but you'll lose a bit of performance since your HD will have to read from
 2 separate locations on the disk to access the Apps and your system files.
 You could always add a 10.5 Apps folder to your Applications folder and copy
 your old apps across there then move them out as you get them working with SL.

That's good to hear, I can probably live with a slight performance hit while
I am testing the apps. I have sometimes used the old folder/new folder
approach before when upgrading/migrating - however in this case I intend to
also re-organise my whole document/data filing system and my priority is
keeping track on what is old and what is new/current across multiple
folders in hierarchies sever levels deep - I decided that the best way to do
that was start with a fresh slate and just move things to my new system as
and when I wanted/needed/classified them.


 Hope this helps a bit
 Ruben
 
Thanks Ruben.

-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got a new 27iMac i7 (Merry Xmas to me!) and The first question from
 she-who-must-be-obeyed was why do you need a new one - the old one is only
 2 years old - what are you going to do with it?!
 
 Peace and harmony was restored when I pointed out that the old windows
 machine that her Mum uses was so slow you kept thinking the thing had
 crashed and how nice it would be to pass on the nice shiny 24 iMac to her
 (coincidentally it would also be nice to have access to a nice Mac when we
 visit her in Perth - which we do fairly frequently).
 
 So far, so good. However the new machine obviously came with SL and not all
 my software is SL compatible, also after many successive migrations and
 system upgrades I decided it would be nice to set-up SL slowly from scratch
 with regard to applications and user data (rather than just migrate
 everything from the old machine to the new machine).
 
 I am also wanting to re-organise my document/data filing sustem as I intend
 to incorporate some form of cloud back-up/synchronisation using something
 like iDisk or Dropbox (or both) as both an extra layer of back-up redundancy
 and as a convenient way of keeping some data synched between my desktop 
 laptop computer.
 
 I thought I had come up with a good plan - since the new machine had a
 whopping 1TB HD, I would partition the HD in 3:
 - Partition 1 with a nice fresh SL installation.
 - Partition 2 with a clone of my current 24 iMac HD
 - Partition 3 (I just want my EyeTV recordings and video on an extra
 partition to suit my back-up regime)
 
 As I saw it, I could then pass the 24iMac on to the mother-in-law (as
 everything was now on partition 2 of the 27 iMac) and slowly set-up the SL
 partition as I wanted it, whilst still being able to boot-up the 27 from
 partition 2 (running 10.5.8) and essentially have all my apps 

B/Q

2009-12-13 Thread botterill
Many thanks for all the hard work in organising the B/Q 


regards 


Neil Botterill 

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Re: mail accounts

2009-12-13 Thread Pedro
Hi RonniThank you for that.I had a look at the link and it is for the initial set up. Once you are in there is no way to change.She is stuck on her PC for now and I have a glorious 27" iMac to myself for a couple of weekscheersPedroOn 13/12/2009, at 7:43 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Pedro,It looks likeIncrediMail doesn’t implement IMAP correctly. It doesn’t synchronize the IMAP folders, but instead just downloads the messages, while leaving them on the server.From the IncrediMail Help files:"How you can easily configure your IMAP email account in IncrediMail.Note that although IncrediMail does not support IMAP folders synchronization at this time, a copy of each email message is left on the IMAP server, ensuring thatincoming messages are available for download on all your email accounts and computers."Scroll down to No.3 underManually configuring the Email Accounthttp://help.incredimail.com/incredimail/help_center/help_article.aspx?is=tarticle_id=6Cheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GBOS X 10.6.2 Snow LeopardWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)On 12/12/2009, at 9:08 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanI think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with some help from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is like a drug. Once you start using it , you can't stop.Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics cases and if she loses them my life won't be worth livingThank you for the inputPedroFrom the iPhoneOn 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote:Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'.Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box in the setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible.If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox.Could this be what is happening?cheers, Susan.On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi Susan and PeteI tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox.After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account.So, until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC.I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if thenew MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problemsI hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen)I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at workregardsPedroOn 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs):To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below.incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.auOutgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.auIts no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different.cheers, Susan.On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanIt was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it worksThanks for thatCheersPedroFrom the iPhoneOn 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote:Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanIt appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PCuntil she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27" screento myself for awhile. cheersPedroG'day Pedro.I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting...Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day whilst my PC is 

Christmas barbeque

2009-12-13 Thread Susan Walker

The barbeque was great - convivial company, fantastic location and excellent 
food.
Thank you to all involved.
Sue and Morgan
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Apple isight webcam

2009-12-13 Thread Lodge family


Hi All
Son going overseas and he feels he needs a webcam to use with a 12  
inch ibook 1.33mhz.
Is it worth trying to find a firewire isight webcam or can anyone  
recommend another make.

Regards
Rob 



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Re: Is this some graphics controller fault on my Pow erBook?

2009-12-13 Thread James / Hans Kunz

i had a look @ the pic
it seems other equipment is disturbing the reception, through  
diconnect/reconnect you may find the offending part, from my  
experience it could be a vcr power supply putting a high frequency  
into the antenna line,
disconnect everything then connect the antenna directly to the crt  
screen  see if that gets a clear reception
sometimes it's poor grounding (the outer part of the antenna plug not  
connecting..)


cheers James

On 13/12/2009, at 13:19, Brian Scott wrote:



If the link to the picture of the faulty screen didn't work, try  
this one..


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/walfau/Computer/Faulty-PB- 
screen1.jpg


Thanks

Brian

On 13/12/2009, at 12:26 PM, Brian Scott wrote:



Hi,

I was was about to setup EYeTV to record a show yesterday when my  
screen started
getting a mess/mesh of dots and lines. Not just on the PowerBook  
15 but on my TV (CRT)

that it is connected to also.

The external HDD started unexpectedly removing itself invoking  
Device Removal warnings.


This happened not long after upgrading some system software and  
repairing permissions.


It's has OS 10.4.11

When I started it this morning it was clear until I moved the PB  
screen to view it better.

But moving it again doesn't make it clear.
And it wasn't movement that made it go off the first time or other  
times.


I've tried re-setting PRAM, removing everything connected to it  
and replacing the ram module but it made no difference.


From the Preferences the screen details are Model: 9C20 and  
Manufacture Date: B87B9680


See a picture of the faulty screen here..

|http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/walfau/Computer/Faulty- 
PB-screen.png|


Has my PowerBook become useless or can it be easily fixed?

Thank you for looking.

Brian



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Re: Is this some graphics controller fault on my Pow erBook?

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 13/12/2009, at 1:19 PM, Brian Scott wrote:

 
 If the link to the picture of the faulty screen didn't work, try this one..
 
 http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/walfau/Computer/Faulty-PB-screen1.jpg
 
 Thanks
 
 Brian
 
 On 13/12/2009, at 12:26 PM, Brian Scott wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I was was about to setup EYeTV to record a show yesterday when my screen 
 started
 getting a mess/mesh of dots and lines. Not just on the PowerBook 15 but on 
 my TV (CRT)
 that it is connected to also.
 
 The external HDD started unexpectedly removing itself invoking Device 
 Removal warnings.
 
 This happened not long after upgrading some system software and repairing 
 permissions.
 
 It's has OS 10.4.11
 
 When I started it this morning it was clear until I moved the PB screen to 
 view it better.
 But moving it again doesn't make it clear.
 And it wasn't movement that made it go off the first time or other times.
 
 I've tried re-setting PRAM, removing everything connected to it and 
 replacing the ram module but it made no difference.
 
 From the Preferences the screen details are Model: 9C20 and Manufacture 
 Date: B87B9680
 
 See a picture of the faulty screen here..
 
 |http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/walfau/Computer/Faulty-PB-screen.png|
 
 Has my PowerBook become useless or can it be easily fixed?
 
 Thank you for looking.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
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My initial reaction is that something nasty has happened to your graphics 
hardware, and I suspect the only cure will be a logic board replacement. Take 
it to your nearest Apple Repairer (any registered Apple Reseller should be able 
to help) for an expert opinion, but you'll have to weigh the costs of repair vs 
replacement with a new or good 2nd hand laptop.
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Re: Systems, partitions, applications, Oh My (apologies to AA Milne)

2009-12-13 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Neil,

I'll try to reply to the questions you have asked me below.

On 13/12/2009, at 7:52 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 
 Hi Neil,
 
 This is purely my own thoughts  preferences, others might disagree ;-)
 I guess it's what suits your needs.
 
 I feel you will run into problems with the Leopard Clone being a Partition on
 the Snow Leopard iMac.
 What kind of problems do you envisage?

You should be ok, I tend to err on the side of caution. ;-) 
You can read Snow Leopard partitions from Leopard. You cannot execute Snow 
Leopard applications from Leopard.
Apple has applied compression to most of the system executable files in Snow 
Leopard. 
However they do not appear to apply it to data files for any applications, (but 
I could be wrong here).

Apples documentation for ditto (go to terminal and type man ditto at the 
prompt, without the quotes) states:

--hfsCompression
When copying files or extracting content from an archive, if the destination is 
an HFS+
volume that supports compression, all the content will be compressed if 
appropriate. This
is only supported on Mac OS X 10.6 or later, and is only intended to be used in 
installa-tion installation
tion and backup scenarios that involve system files. Since files using HFS+ 
compression
are not readable on versions of Mac OS X earlier than 10.6, this flag should 
not be used
when dealing with non-system files or other user-generated content.

 
 I would prefer to have it on an External Firewire Drive, then you can boot
 Leopard from it.

Sorry Neil, I did not read this part of your email thoroughly enough.
You cannot boot Leopard on your new iMac. I explain why below.
 
 Well, I actually have both since I have an external 1TB firewire drive which
 is partitioned to match the internal drive and I clone each internal
 partition to it's corresponding partition on the external drive.
 
 However, one of the problems with my original strategy is that the new i7
 iMac will not boot up into Leopard, only Snow Leopard :(
 (I tried it from the Leopard partition on both the internal drive and the
 External Drive - and I know the cloned system on the external drive is OK
 because the old 24 iMac boots from it but the new i7 iMac doesn't).
 
 Interestingly, if I option start the i7 both the leopard and snow leopard
 systems show up as selectable but, if I select a leopard system, then
 start-up just hangs at the white screen with the Apple logo (but the moving
 clock icon doesn't show). Also:
 - running disc utility under SL and the Leopard partitions have the verify
 permissions and repair permissions options greyed out.
 - if I try to start the i7 using a Leopard installation DVD (to try a fresh
 leopard install) it again refuses to boot from the Leopard installation DVD.
 
 I am assuming that the new processor/hardware has certain requirements that
 are built-in to SL but not Leopard - since there were no i5 or i7 Macs
 available when Leopard was the current OS.

Yes, you cannot boot Leopard on the NEW iMac!
Apple doesn't program any Macs not to allow an earlier version of the OS to be 
used. However, a Mac cannot successfully boot from an OS that does not include 
appropriate drivers for its hardware components,  more recent Macs have 
upgraded hardware that are not supported by the drivers shipped with older 
versions of the OS.

For this reason, the OS installer package checks the hardware of the Mac 
targeted for the OS install  compares it to a list of what it can support. If 
the Mac isn't on that list, it will refuse to install the OS. For the same 
reason, if you bypass the installer, like by using a clone of the HD of a 
different Mac with an older OS version on it, it generally will not 
successfully boot a Mac with newer hardware.

Note that the hardware differences can  usually do include things other than 
just the CPU or graphics processor. Check /System/Library/Extensions, which is 
the home of the drivers (as well as other extensions)  note that things like 
the System Management Controller (SMC)  various input/output (IO) devices each 
have drivers that correspond to subsystems typically implemented with different 
hardware on different Macs.
 
 
 Personally I don't partition my internal drive. I find Leopard  Snow Leopard
 run faster and cleaner on non-partitioned drives.
 I would partition an external drive into 2 partitions, and have 1 partition
 for your cloned Leopard, and the other for your EyeTV Recordings.
 Yes, I hear what you are saying here - that's what I did with my 24 iMac
 which has a 320GB HD - its just that (without the EyeTV recordings) I never
 even came close to filling a quarter of the 320GB disc (around 74GB at last
 look) and I already have four external 1TB drives (some partitioned) serving
 as clones and TM drives for the various machines - so, given that the new
 iMac has a 1TB drive, I wanted to go this route rather than buy more
 external drives (given each then requires another back-up drive) - as I
 didn't want to 

Re: Apple isight webcam

2009-12-13 Thread James / Hans Kunz
usb camera will do the job, they are small lightweight give the  
640x480 or better  no external power needed
i'm using a hongkong made 1.3 mpixel that has a led light built, in  
if its to dark it switches onthe included clip holds the camera  
on top of the screen

James

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Hi All
Son going overseas and he feels he needs a webcam to use with a 12  
inch ibook 1.33mhz.
Is it worth trying to find a firewire isight webcam or can anyone  
recommend another make.

Regards
Rob

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Re: Apple isight webcam

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 14/12/2009, at 6:44 AM, Lodge family wrote:

 
 Hi All
 Son going overseas and he feels he needs a webcam to use with a 12 inch ibook 
 1.33mhz.
 Is it worth trying to find a firewire isight webcam or can anyone recommend 
 another make.
 Regards
 Rob

The Logitech QuickCam Vision Pro for Mac is an excellent device, though not 
exactly cheap at around $200. Guaranteed to work with your Mac though, with 
built in microphone and excellent camera.

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Re: Hard drive fills up for no apparent reason

2009-12-13 Thread Alexander Hartner
Hi James,

You can get the total amount of disk used by folder using Terminal :

polaris:~ alex$ du -sh *
2.6GDownloads
...
polaris:~ alex$ cd Downloads/
polaris:Downloads alex$ du -sh *
548KAbout Downloads.pdf
2.5Giphone_sdk_3.1.2_with_xcode_3.2.1__snow_leopard__10m2003.dmg
...
polaris:Downloads alex$

As you can see my downloads folder holds 2.6GB out of which 2.5GB are made up 
of the iPhone SDK.

Maybe a little technical using Terminal commands, but at least you don't have 
to install any new software.

Have fun
Alex


On 12 Dec 2009, at 10:26, James I Fraser wrote:

 
 Please would anyone have any idea how 155GB of free space on a 500GB drive 
 fill up in 5 hours with no user activity? The laptop - a MacBook Pro, late 
 2007, 4GB Ram running 10.6.2 was wirelessly connected to the internet and 
 McAfee ran finding 431 malwares, but on the backup drive! To email I've moved 
 81GB of pictures to free up drive space.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 James
 
 
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Tivo networking package which allows streaming from iTunes and iPhoto

2009-12-13 Thread Ronda Brown
Hello People,

My Son-in-Law is trying to get his TiVo to Stream iTunes  iPhoto to his Plasma 
TV. He is using Leopard (not Snow Leopard).
The TV can see the folders but won't access them unless he goes into System 
Preferences  Firewall and Allow all incoming connections is selected.

Has anyone got this to work in Leopard, and if so How please?
Is it just a simple case of Allow incoming connections in the Firewall for 
iTunes, iPhoto and TiVo?

Reading the Trouble shooting from Tivo there are a whole lot of ports (see 
below) that need to be open.
Check that TiVo is not blocked by a firewall on your router and/or Mac. The 
following ports (whether inbound or outbound) must be open to enable your DVR 
to communicate with the TiVo Servers, other TiVo DVRs, and your Macintosh: * 
TCP port 37 * TCP port 8000 * TCP port 443 * TCP ports 8080-8089 * TCP port 
2190 * TCP port 8101 * TCP port 4430 * TCP port 8102 * TCP port 7287 * TCP port 
8200 * TCP port 7288 * UDP port 37 * UDP port 123 * UDP port 2190

He uses a Billion 7404V Series Router. I have sent him details how to Port 
Forward (Add Virtual Server on the Billion), but he has not been able to get it 
to work.
Now he can't delete what he has typed into the Billion ( the Ports he has added 
into the Billion).

Any help from TiVo users would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Re: iPhone

2009-12-13 Thread F.W. Hänel

Hi Kim,

Did you want to watch movies on your TV which are stored on your iPhone ?

Cheers,

Walter
On 13/12/2009, at 8:00 , Kim Maher wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Has anyone achieved or has an idea how to connect a iPhone 3GS 32GB to a TV 
 to watch movies etc?  I thank you all in advance.
 
 Regards
 
 Kim 
 
 iMac 24”
 Intel Core 2 Duo
 MacBook Pro
 Intel Core 2 Duo
 iPhone 32GB
 iPhone 16GB
 iTouch 16GB
 OS X Snow Leopard
 
 
 
 
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