Re: Mail and WAMG home page problems
Thanks Ronni, The link I used was at the bottom of incoming wamug messages. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 19/09/2010, at 1:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Adrian, This is the correct link for the WAMUG Mailing list Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/ Re: Mail keeps asking for Password: If you are sure the Mail POP account has all the correct settings, and the password is correct. 1. Quit Mail 2. Open Keychain Access which (if it's not showing on the top Menu of the desktop) is in Applications Utilities Keychain Access.app and manually delete the Keychain entry for the mail account. (He probably has a few if he has continually been clicking Remember password in Keychain) 3. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's password again, type in the password and tick 'Remember this password in my keychain'. Now the password should be stored correctly and Keychain access will do the email password in the background when you check for new mail. Do you mean there is another problems when you say: Some messages have come and gone before this started. Cheers, Ronni On 19/09/2010, at 12:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good afternoon all, My son is having a problem with mail that has been canvassed here before but I am unable to access the archive or any WAMUG pages, all I get is the following error message http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml: Invalid URL The requested URL /mailinglist/archives.shtml, is invalid. Reference #9.d47303c7.1284870239.e15482 In the meantime the mail problem is the repeated appearance to enter Password for Account, checking the Remember box makes no difference as it keeps asking. Some messages have come and gone before this started. I have done the usual things like Permission Repair and even resorted to deleting the account and creating it anew to no avail. iMac 17 OS 10.5.6 Any suggestions will be appreciated. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail and WAMG home page problems
Hi Adrian, The Link at the bottom of every WAMUG Mailing List message is the correct link. The link you suppled in your email was invalid because it had a Colon : at the end of the URL which made it invalid. 1. Click this link below: -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml 2. When the above webpage fully loads: Click “here” under “Archive” Archive The complete mailing list archive is available here. Which then takes you to this Address: http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/ Cheers, Ronni On 19/09/2010, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote: Thanks Ronni, The link I used was at the bottom of incoming wamug messages. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 19/09/2010, at 1:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Adrian, This is the correct link for the WAMUG Mailing list Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/ Re: Mail keeps asking for Password: If you are sure the Mail POP account has all the correct settings, and the password is correct. 1. Quit Mail 2. Open Keychain Access which (if it's not showing on the top Menu of the desktop) is in Applications Utilities Keychain Access.app and manually delete the Keychain entry for the mail account. (He probably has a few if he has continually been clicking Remember password in Keychain) 3. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's password again, type in the password and tick 'Remember this password in my keychain'. Now the password should be stored correctly and Keychain access will do the email password in the background when you check for new mail. Do you mean there is another problems when you say: Some messages have come and gone before this started. Cheers, Ronni On 19/09/2010, at 12:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good afternoon all, My son is having a problem with mail that has been canvassed here before but I am unable to access the archive or any WAMUG pages, all I get is the following error message http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml: Invalid URL The requested URL /mailinglist/archives.shtml, is invalid. Reference #9.d47303c7.1284870239.e15482 In the meantime the mail problem is the repeated appearance to enter Password for Account, checking the Remember box makes no difference as it keeps asking. Some messages have come and gone before this started. I have done the usual things like Permission Repair and even resorted to deleting the account and creating it anew to no avail. iMac 17 OS 10.5.6 Any suggestions will be appreciated. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
eMac for sale complete with iSight webcam
Hi folks, Looking for $250.00 iSight was installed new only about 10 months ago. Anyone interested please reply to this email. Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Skype
Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain.Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain.Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
No I do not use a password, I just choose deny everytime - it works fine. I just wonder if I can switch this process off ( it asks twice) Bill On 19/09/2010, at 7:50 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain.Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
i just have chosen allow all that stopped it, i checked cannot find anything in regards to the keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 20:12, Bill Parker wrote: No I do not use a password, I just choose deny everytime - it works fine. I just wonder if I can switch this process off ( it asks twice) Bill On 19/09/2010, at 7:50 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain.Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
Hi Bill, When you set up Skype you have to set a Username Password. The message you are probably receiving is: Skype wants to use your confidential information stored in Skype in your keychain. Do you want to allow access to this item? The choices are: Always allow Deny and Allow Select Always Allow and you won't receive this message again. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 19/09/2010, at 8:12 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: No I do not use a password, I just choose deny everytime - it works fine. I just wonder if I can switch this process off ( it asks twice) Bill On 19/09/2010, at 7:50 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain. Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eMac for sale complete with iSight webcam
Greetings! What are the specifications and year of manufacture? Cheers, Joe On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Stephen Chape ch...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi folks, Looking for $250.00 iSight was installed new only about 10 months ago. Anyone interested please reply to this email. Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
Hi Ronni, Hi Bill, I don't use Skype, so this is just me thinking out loud ;o) I can see that this would solve the problem - it is the same as hitting allow without having to do it every time (forgive me for stating the obvious) The thing is, Bill says he hits Deny rather than Allow and everything still works OK (except that he keeps getting asked, of course). So the real question seems to be: - Skype does not NEED to access keychain - it works when access is denied - so why does Skype keep saying it needs to access keychain when it doesn't REALLY? Of course, Bill might not really care - given that this provides an easy fix. If you are like me and need to know these things ;o) Have you tried opening keychain and searching out any skype keychain items (the fact that you get asked twice ?may? mean you have duplicate items) When you find the relevant skype item(s) you can double-click it (them) to open up an Attributes/Access Control window and then check the show password box (you usually will be asked for your login password) - make sure to make a note of the password(s) When you are sure you have recorded any username(s) and password(s) - you can try deleting the skype keychain items and then try Skype again. You may be asked again for a username and/or password - if Skype really does need to have a keychain item it will recreate it using these inputs. Just a thought - see how you go. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 19/9/10 9:05 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Bill, When you set up Skype you have to set a Username Password. The message you are probably receiving is: Skype wants to use your confidential information stored in Skype in your keychain. Do you want to allow access to this item? The choices are: Always allow Deny and Allow Select Always Allow and you won't receive this message again. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 19/09/2010, at 8:12 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: No I do not use a password, I just choose deny everytime - it works fine. I just wonder if I can switch this process off ( it asks twice) Bill On 19/09/2010, at 7:50 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain. Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie deliberate, contrived, and dishonest but the myth persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.² John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie deliberate, contrived, and dishonest but the myth persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.² John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
Thanks Neil - I just do not like unexplained demands on access to my computer when they are clearly uneeded. There's no way around this keychain stuff that I know of. Bill On 20/09/2010, at 11:46 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi Ronni, Hi Bill, I don't use Skype, so this is just me thinking out loud ;o) I can see that this would solve the problem - it is the same as hitting allow without having to do it every time (forgive me for stating the obvious) The thing is, Bill says he hits Deny rather than Allow and everything still works OK (except that he keeps getting asked, of course). So the real question seems to be: - Skype does not NEED to access keychain - it works when access is denied - so why does Skype keep saying it needs to access keychain when it doesn't REALLY? Of course, Bill might not really care - given that this provides an easy fix. If you are like me and need to know these things ;o) Have you tried opening keychain and searching out any skype keychain items (the fact that you get asked twice ?may? mean you have duplicate items) When you find the relevant skype item(s) you can double-click it (them) to open up an Attributes/Access Control window and then check the show password box (you usually will be asked for your login password) - make sure to make a note of the password(s) When you are sure you have recorded any username(s) and password(s) - you can try deleting the skype keychain items and then try Skype again. You may be asked again for a username and/or password - if Skype really does need to have a keychain item it will recreate it using these inputs. Just a thought - see how you go. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 19/9/10 9:05 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Bill, When you set up Skype you have to set a Username Password. The message you are probably receiving is: Skype wants to use your confidential information stored in Skype in your keychain. Do you want to allow access to this item? The choices are: Always allow Deny and Allow Select Always Allow and you won't receive this message again. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 19/09/2010, at 8:12 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: No I do not use a password, I just choose deny everytime - it works fine. I just wonder if I can switch this process off ( it asks twice) Bill On 19/09/2010, at 7:50 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain. Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/ guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker “The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.” John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Skype
Hi Bill, Have you tried deleting the skype item(s) in Keychain? Was the problem exactly the same after you did this? Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 20/9/10 1:32 PM, Bill Parker at re...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Neil - I just do not like unexplained demands on access to my computer when they are clearly uneeded. There's no way around this keychain stuff that I know of. Bill On 20/09/2010, at 11:46 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi Ronni, Hi Bill, I don't use Skype, so this is just me thinking out loud ;o) I can see that this would solve the problem - it is the same as hitting allow without having to do it every time (forgive me for stating the obvious) The thing is, Bill says he hits Deny rather than Allow and everything still works OK (except that he keeps getting asked, of course). So the real question seems to be: - Skype does not NEED to access keychain - it works when access is denied - so why does Skype keep saying it needs to access keychain when it doesn't REALLY? Of course, Bill might not really care - given that this provides an easy fix. If you are like me and need to know these things ;o) Have you tried opening keychain and searching out any skype keychain items (the fact that you get asked twice ?may? mean you have duplicate items) When you find the relevant skype item(s) you can double-click it (them) to open up an Attributes/Access Control window and then check the show password box (you usually will be asked for your login password) - make sure to make a note of the password(s) When you are sure you have recorded any username(s) and password(s) - you can try deleting the skype keychain items and then try Skype again. You may be asked again for a username and/or password - if Skype really does need to have a keychain item it will recreate it using these inputs. Just a thought - see how you go. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 19/9/10 9:05 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Bill, When you set up Skype you have to set a Username Password. The message you are probably receiving is: Skype wants to use your confidential information stored in Skype in your keychain. Do you want to allow access to this item? The choices are: Always allow Deny and Allow Select Always Allow and you won't receive this message again. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 19/09/2010, at 8:12 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: No I do not use a password, I just choose deny everytime - it works fine. I just wonder if I can switch this process off ( it asks twice) Bill On 19/09/2010, at 7:50 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: skype tries to store the login/password, i assume you type in the password to get skype going allowing access give auto login capabilities every time skype gets updated it will ask for keychain access James On 19/09/2010, at 17:51, Bill Parker wrote: Every time I log into Skype it wants to record something in my keychain. Should I allow this? I have always refused and it makes no diff. to anything I do on Skype. Bill Dr Bill Parker ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie deliberate, contrived, and dishonest but the myth persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.² John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/ guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie deliberate, contrived, and dishonest but the myth persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.² John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie deliberate, contrived, and dishonest but the myth persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic.² John F. Kennedy -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -
