Re: [WAMUG] Printer Advice please

[Rod Blitvich via WAMUG]

Many thanks Daniel!




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> On 4 Mar 2023, at 1:41 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rod
> 
> I can definitely recommend the Epson EcoTank series - I sell a lot of them to 
> my clients and find them very good.
> (And we run two at home - one specifically for photo printing and one for 
> “day to day stuff”. It replaced my colour epson laser I had. And the running 
> cost is very cheap. On one set of refillable inks you can get up to 2 years 
> of printing.
> And the bottles are only around $25 each colour - and again last up to 2 
> years of printing. And I’ve always found the Epson range to be reliable and 
> kept up to date with drivers.
> Any of the entry level Ecotnaks should do - eg something like ET -1810 or 
> ET-2810/2811 would be fine.
> Note that some of the cheaper models don’t have AirPrint (they have “wireless 
> printing direct” which requires another App if you want to print from your 
> iPhone or iPad (not as “easy” as Airprnt).
> Then it just depends on features you want - eg do you want it to have a 
> screen on it for ease of copying, flatbed scanning versus ADF (Automatic 
> Document Feeder) etc,…..
> So more features can cost a bit more up front obviously.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
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>> On 4 Mar 2023, at 1:26 pm, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi Folks
>> 
>>  I need a new multifunction printer for home, VERY low volume.
>> 
>>  Wireless
>> 
>>  Any advice/recommendations please?
>> 
>>  Cartridge vs Ecotank?
>> 
>>  Models
>> 
>>  Thanks
>> 
>>  Blitto
>>  image.gif
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Re: [WAMUG] Printer Advice please

[Daniel Kerr via WAMUG]

Hi Rod

I can definitely recommend the Epson EcoTank series - I sell a lot of them to 
my clients and find them very good.
(And we run two at home - one specifically for photo printing and one for “day 
to day stuff”. It replaced my colour epson laser I had. And the running cost is 
very cheap. On one set of refillable inks you can get up to 2 years of printing.
And the bottles are only around $25 each colour - and again last up to 2 years 
of printing. And I’ve always found the Epson range to be reliable and kept up 
to date with drivers.
Any of the entry level Ecotnaks should do - eg something like ET -1810 or 
ET-2810/2811 would be fine.
Note that some of the cheaper models don’t have AirPrint (they have “wireless 
printing direct” which requires another App if you want to print from your 
iPhone or iPad (not as “easy” as Airprnt).
Then it just depends on features you want - eg do you want it to have a screen 
on it for ease of copying, flatbed scanning versus ADF (Automatic Document 
Feeder) etc,…..
So more features can cost a bit more up front obviously.

Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 

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> On 4 Mar 2023, at 1:26 pm, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi Folks
> 
>   I need a new multifunction printer for home, VERY low volume.
> 
>   Wireless
> 
>   Any advice/recommendations please?
> 
>   Cartridge vs Ecotank?
> 
>   Models
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Blitto
>   image.gif
>   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> [1]rb...@iinet.net.au
> 
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[WAMUG] Printer Advice please

[Rod Blitvich via WAMUG]

Hi Folks
I need a new multifunction printer for home, VERY low volume.
Wireless
Any advice/recommendations please?

Cartridge vs Ecotank?
Models

Thanks
Blitto




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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

  Hi Rod
  You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network -
  still
  give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
  This link has some good info as well -
  [3][6][11]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-tels
 tra-netw
  ork
  There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
  Telstra with 5G
  [7][12]https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-
 Telstra-
  netw
  ork-MVNO-plans
  (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
  I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the
 Telstra
  network and been happy with them.
  Hope that helps.
  Kind regards
  Daniel
   Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 
  ---
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  MacWizardry
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  e : 
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  On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
  <[10][15]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
  Hi Folks
  I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
  If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to
  stay
  with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any
 advice
  please?
  My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
  Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55
 per
  month?
  Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with
 40
  GB
  and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
  Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
  OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the
 carrier?
  [1][11][16]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list
 anything
  with
  Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
  Many thanks for your advice
  Blitto
  [[12][17]cid:3320202049_5684508]
  Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[2][13][18]rb...@iinet.net.au
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Regards
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  References
1. [25][30]mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
2. [26][31]mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
3.
 [27][32]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-net
 wo
  rk
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Daniel Kerr via WAMUG]

 **For everything Apple**
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>   On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
>   <[10]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>   Hi Folks
>   I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
>   If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to
>   stay
>   with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
>   please?
>   My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
>   Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per
>   month?
>   Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40
>   GB
>   and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
>   Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
>   OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
>   [1][11]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything
>   with
>   Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
>   Many thanks for your advice
>   Blitto
>   [[12]cid:3320202049_5684508]
>   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> [2][13]rb...@iinet.net.au
>   References
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>   2. [15]x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au
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>   References
> 1. [25]mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
> 2. [26]mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
> 3. [27]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-netwo
>   rk
> 4. [28]https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/
> 5. [29]http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml
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>   4. mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
>   5. mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
>   6. https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network
>   7. https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw
>   8. http://macwizardry.com.au/
>   9. http://www.macwizardry.com.au/
>  10. mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
>  11. https://www.whistleout.com.au/
>  12. cid:3320202049_5684508
>  13. mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au
>  14. https://www.whistleout.com.au/
>  15. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au
>  16. https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/
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>  23. http:

Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Although Rod.

   Having now taken a look at Boost Mobile.

   The prepaid plans they offer (using the Telstra network) will make me
   think when mine comes up for renewal.

   I use about 0.5 MG of data per month, and my wife about the same.

   We are on a special Telstra pensioner plan which has about 10 months to
   go.

   Both iPhones are on one account for $30.00 per phone per month (so
   $60.00 per month).

   Pretty hard to beat at the moment.

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 3:48 pm, Rod Blitvich <[1]rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

 Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen!

   cheers

   Blitto
   
   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 [2]rb...@iinet.net.au

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
   <[3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

 Hi Rod.
 I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.
 Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.
 Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.
 If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over.
 If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they
   will
 keep you on your current plan.
 On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
 <[1][4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure
 about 5G
 $20 a month for 10gb I think.
 Tim Law
   On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
   <[2][5]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
   Hi Rod
   You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network -
   still
   give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
   This link has some good info as well -
   [3][6]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-netw
   ork
   There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
   Telstra with 5G
   [7]https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-
   netw
   ork-MVNO-plans
   (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
   I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra
   network and been happy with them.
   Hope that helps.
   Kind regards
   Daniel
    Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 
   ---
   Daniel Kerr
   MacWizardry
   p : 0414 795 960
   e : 
   w : <[9]http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
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   be requested.
   On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
   <[10]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
   Hi Folks
   I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
   If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to
   stay
   with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
   please?
   My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
   Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per
   month?
   Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40
   GB
   and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
   Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
   OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
   [1][11]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything
   with
   Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
   Many thanks for your advice
   Blitto
   [[12]cid:3320202049_5684508]
   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 [2][13]rb...@iinet.net.au
   References
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   2. [15]x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Rod Blitvich via WAMUG]

Thank you Daniel, Tim and Stephen!
cheers
Blitto




Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  rb...@iinet.net.au  



> On 10 Sep 2022, at 1:41 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Hi Rod.
> 
>   I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.
> 
>   Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.
> 
>   Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.
> 
>   If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over.
> 
>   If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will
>   keep you on your current plan.
> 
>   On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
>   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au <mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>> wrote:
> 
>   Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure
>   about 5G
>   $20 a month for 10gb I think.
>   Tim Law
> 
> On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
> <[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au <mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>> wrote:
> Hi Rod
> You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still
> give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
> This link has some good info as well -
> [3]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network 
> <https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network>
> There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
> Telstra with 5G
> https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw 
> <https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw>
> ork-MVNO-plans
> (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
> I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra
> network and been happy with them.
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
>  Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> p : 0414 795 960
> e : 
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> On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
>  wrote:
> Hi Folks
> I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
> If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay
> with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
> please?
> My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
> Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per
> month?
> Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB
> and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
> Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
> OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
> [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with
> Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
> Many thanks for your advice
> Blitto
> [cid:3320202049_5684508]
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>   [2]rb...@iinet.net.au
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi Rod.

   I can’t see any advantage in changing your plan.

   Just stay with the current $55.00 month plan in my opinion.

   Especially as you don’t need the extra GB.

   If your are buying the new phone outright, just switch the SIM over.

   If you are getting the new phone with a plan, ask Telstra if they will
   keep you on your current plan.

   On 10 Sep 2022, at 11:38 am, Tim Law via WAMUG
   <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:

   Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure
   about 5G
   $20 a month for 10gb I think.
   Tim Law

 On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
 <[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 Hi Rod
 You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still
 give good coverage but at a cheaper price -
 This link has some good info as well -
 [3]https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network
 There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on
 Telstra with 5G
 https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-netw
 ork-MVNO-plans
 (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
 I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra
 network and been happy with them.
 Hope that helps.
 Kind regards
 Daniel
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 On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi Folks
 I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
 If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay
 with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
 please?
 My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
 Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per
 month?
 Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB
 and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
 Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
 OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
 [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with
 Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
 Many thanks for your advice
 Blitto
 [cid:3320202049_5684508]
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Tim Law via WAMUG]

Rod I moved to Boost which uses the full Telstra network. Not sure about 5G

$20 a month for 10gb I think. 

Tim Law

> On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:56 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rod
> 
> You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still give 
> good coverage but at a cheaper price - 
> This link has some good info as well - 
> https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network
> 
> There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on Telstra with 5G
> https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-network-MVNO-plans
> (Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)
> 
> I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra network and 
> been happy with them. 
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 
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>> On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi Folks
>> 
>>  I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
>> 
>>  If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay
>>  with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
>>  please?
>> 
>>  My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
>> 
>>  Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per month?
>> 
>>  Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB
>>  and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
>> 
>>  Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
>> 
>>  OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
>> 
>>  [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with
>>  Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
>> 
>>  Many thanks for your advice
>> 
>>  Blitto
>>  [cid:3320202049_5684508]
>>  Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>[2]rb...@iinet.net.au
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  1. https://www.whistleout.com.au/
>>  2. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au
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Re: [WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Daniel Kerr via WAMUG]

Hi Rod

You may find some of the others that use the Telstra network - still give good 
coverage but at a cheaper price - 
This link has some good info as well - 
https://www.finder.com.au/best-mvno-plans-on-the-telstra-network

There were a few on this link around the $30-$40 plan still on Telstra with 5G
https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/Cheap-Telstra-network-MVNO-plans
(Eg Made had soul ate 5G, 60GB data for $40 pm.)

I’ve had a few clients use other carries but still on the Telstra network and 
been happy with them. 
Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 10 Sep 2022, at 9:32 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi Folks
> 
>   I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
> 
>   If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay
>   with Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice
>   please?
> 
>   My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.
> 
>   Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per month?
> 
>   Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB
>   and capped speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
> 
>   Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
> 
>   OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?
> 
>   [1]https://www.whistleout.com.au/ doesn’t seem to list anything with
>   Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68
> 
>   Many thanks for your advice
> 
>   Blitto
>   [cid:3320202049_5684508]
>   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> [2]rb...@iinet.net.au
> 
> References
> 
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>   2. x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au
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[WAMUG] Mobile Plans Advice Please: Telstra, JBHIFI Telstra etc

[Rod Blitvich via WAMUG]

Hi Folks
I have a Telstra Moblie Plan Small with my iPhone X
If I decide it’s time to upgrade to the iPhone 14 AND I want to stay with 
Telstra (for remote area coverage) - do you have any advice please?
My current Telstra plan gives me 40 GB. I rarely use 10 GB.

Should I stay on my current Telstra Moblie Plan Small  @ $55 per month?
Or Shift to a new Telstra Upfront Mobile Plan Basic @ $58 with 40 GB and capped 
speed 250Mbps  4G and 5G?
Or JB HiFi Telstra plan 60 GB @ $49, 3G, 4G/4GX BUT not 5G?
OR - do you recommend any other plan with Telstra as the carrier?

https://www.whistleout.com.au/ <https://www.whistleout.com.au/> doesn’t seem to 
list anything with Telstra carrier AND 5G under $68

Many thanks for your advice

Blitto






Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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Re: Advice please

[petercrisp]

Telstra do a pocket sized 4G device which can accommodate up to 10
devices I think they said. Have a look at the Telstra web site and
look at  this URL.
http://www.dicksmith.com.au/networking-wireless/telstra-prepaid-4g-wifi-mf910-dsau-eb5042?CAWELAID=12014697216647catargetid=12014697223542cadevice=cgclid=Cj0KEQjw-46sBRD7x6P0stibwbsBEiQAoMi4Zvp2RO75mexo7SZStfE1U3SwCUOgXequ7SoxEcKYWdQaAjjA8P8HAQ

Pete

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:WAMUG List 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:30:33 +0800
Subject:Advice please

 I am secretary of the Albany Summer and also web manager and de-facto
IT adviser.   The school runs for two weeks each January with 6 - 700
students for 50 odd courses (www.albanysummerschool.com.au [1]  could
not miss the chance of a free plug!).   We are excellently hosted by
St Joseph’s College and have the use of their class computer setups
with master display etc.  However, we are not permitted access to the
on site internet.  We would like to run a course on the iPad, for
users, and can not be sure they will all have 4G access.  I am
seeking help on purchasing wireless connectivity to, say, 15 iPads
that talks to the internet by (multiplexed?) 4G.  I have not been
able to match this wish to what I can see on the internet, in some
measure due to my own lack of experience.    At times outside of the
Summer School the device will have a function as a single user
connection.  Can anyone please advise? Severin We have in the past
used a single USB dongle and laptop for mobile broadband one committee
member.  
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
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Advice please

[Severin Crisp]

I am secretary of the Albany Summer and also web manager and de-facto IT 
adviser.   The school runs for two weeks each January with 6 - 700 students for 
50 odd courses (www.albanysummerschool.com.au 
http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au/  could not miss the chance of a free 
plug!).   We are excellently hosted by St Joseph’s College and have the use of 
their class computer setups with master display etc.  However, we are not 
permitted access to the on site internet.  We would like to run a course on the 
iPad, for users, and can not be sure they will all have 4G access.  I am 
seeking help on purchasing wireless connectivity to, say, 15 iPads that talks 
to the internet by (multiplexed?) 4G.  I have not been able to match this wish 
to what I can see on the internet, in some measure due to my own lack of 
experience.At times outside of the Summer School the device will have a 
function as a single user connection.  
Can anyone please advise?
Severin
We have in the past used a single USB dongle and laptop for mobile broadband 
one committee member.  


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Re: Advice please

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks for that Pete.  Assume you are hard at work!   Was there anything to 
report on GHD?
Sunny here after 12.5mms overnight and more on the way it seems.  
Dad

 On 19 Jun 2015, at 3:40 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Telstra do a pocket sized 4G device which can accommodate up to 10 devices I 
 think they said. Have a look at the Telstra web site and look at  this URL.
 
 http://www.dicksmith.com.au/networking-wireless/telstra-prepaid-4g-wifi-mf910-dsau-eb5042?CAWELAID=12014697216647catargetid=12014697223542cadevice=cgclid=Cj0KEQjw-46sBRD7x6P0stibwbsBEiQAoMi4Zvp2RO75mexo7SZStfE1U3SwCUOgXequ7SoxEcKYWdQaAjjA8P8HAQ
 
 
 Pete
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 WAMUG List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:30:33 +0800
 Subject:
 Advice please
 
 
 I am secretary of the Albany Summer and also web manager and de-facto IT 
 adviser.   The school runs for two weeks each January with 6 - 700 students 
 for 50 odd courses (www.albanysummerschool.com.au 
 http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au/  could not miss the chance of a free 
 plug!).   We are excellently hosted by St Joseph’s College and have the use 
 of their class computer setups with master display etc.  However, we are not 
 permitted access to the on site internet.  We would like to run a course on 
 the iPad, for users, and can not be sure they will all have 4G access.  I am 
 seeking help on purchasing wireless connectivity to, say, 15 iPads that talks 
 to the internet by (multiplexed?) 4G.  I have not been able to match this 
 wish to what I can see on the internet, in some measure due to my own lack of 
 experience.At times outside of the Summer School the device will have a 
 function as a single user connection.  
 Can anyone please advise?
 Severin
 We have in the past used a single USB dongle and laptop for mobile broadband 
 one committee member.  
 
 
  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
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iTunes advice please

[Severin Crisp]

It is probably simple but I must admit to being an iTunes novice and use only 
the most basic functions.   
I can get ABC radio stations to play live from my browser, no problem.   How do 
I make them appear in the Radio Stations list in iTunes?   
Once they are there how do I record off air and save?  
Severin Crisp


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Re: iTunes advice please

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

In iTunes v12 - Tune in to Internet stations: 
1. Click the Internet Radio button near the top left of the iTunes window (if 
you don't see it, click ...
2. To see available stations, click the triangle next to the type of music you 
want to listen to.
3. To tune in, double-click a station

To connect to an Internet Broadcast:
If you know the exact URL of the Internet broadcast, iTunes can connect to it 
directly.
1. Choose File  Open Stream
2. Enter the URL of the broadcast you want to listen to.

Note: you can't record or save a song from an Internet broadcast, but you can 
add your favorite stations to your library or to a playlist so that you can 
tune in easily.

Create a Playlist and drag your favorite stations to it.
 
Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 23 Apr 2015, at 3:31 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 It is probably simple but I must admit to being an iTunes novice and use only 
 the most basic functions.   
 I can get ABC radio stations to play live from my browser, no problem.   How 
 do I make them appear in the Radio Stations list in iTunes?   
 Once they are there how do I record off air and save?  
 Severin Crisp
 
 
  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: iTunes advice please

[Severin Crisp]

Many thanks Ronni!
Severin

 On 23 Apr 2015, at 4:22 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 In iTunes v12 - Tune in to Internet stations: 
 1. Click the Internet Radio button near the top left of the iTunes window (if 
 you don't see it, click ...
 2. To see available stations, click the triangle next to the type of music 
 you want to listen to.
 3. To tune in, double-click a station
 
 To connect to an Internet Broadcast:
 If you know the exact URL of the Internet broadcast, iTunes can connect to it 
 directly.
 1. Choose File  Open Stream
 2. Enter the URL of the broadcast you want to listen to.
 
 Note: you can't record or save a song from an Internet broadcast, but you can 
 add your favorite stations to your library or to a playlist so that you can 
 tune in easily.
 
 Create a Playlist and drag your favorite stations to it.
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2015, at 3:31 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 It is probably simple but I must admit to being an iTunes novice and use 
 only the most basic functions.   
 I can get ABC radio stations to play live from my browser, no problem.   How 
 do I make them appear in the Radio Stations list in iTunes?   
 Once they are there how do I record off air and save?  
 Severin Crisp
 
 
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a little advice please re Mavericks

[wyvern]

Hi Guys

I have just updated my newish mini with Mavericks and started wondering about 
my MacBook Pro which is currently running 10.6.8.

MacBook Pro 3,1
Processor 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Mavericks says MacBook Pro (mid-/late 2007 or newer) which the 3,1 is.

Would those in the know advise updating system or leaving well alone?

Thanks

Yvonne


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Re: a little advice please re Mavericks

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 5 Dec 2013, at 5:42 pm, wyv...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Guys
 
 I have just updated my newish mini with Mavericks and started wondering about 
 my MacBook Pro which is currently running 10.6.8.
 
 MacBook Pro 3,1
 Processor 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
 
 Mavericks says MacBook Pro (mid-/late 2007 or newer) which the 3,1 is.
 
 Would those in the know advise updating system or leaving well alone?
 
 Thanks
 
 Yvonne
 

Since there is no apparent technical reason not to upgrade, you have to rule 
out any personal reasons, eg, are you dependent upon any legacy software on 
your Macbook Pro such as AppleWorks or anything else which is not compatible 
with Mavericks? You'll have to do a little research in this area if you haven't 
done so already. 

Assuming that you're comfortable that your working environment won't be 
compromised by compatibility issues, you have appropriate backups, and your 
Macbook Pro has enough space on the hard drive, I can't see any reason not to 
proceed. With the significant differences in the feature list between Mavericks 
and 10.6.8, you'll eventually find that working in two increasingly different 
OSes will become frustrating.

Having said all that, proceed at your own risk...   :-)


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Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Severin Crisp]

I am on the brink of going from Snow Leopard to Lion after having an extended 
and trouble free play with an upgraded complete clone on a separate FW800 
drive.  My three printers and scanner are fine, I  can access both my banks and 
the ATO and the only things that do not work I knew of in advance and they are 
unimportant.  When I do this what is the advice on my Time Machine disk?  My 
own inclination is to wipe it clean and start again which of course erases 
items that I just might want, highly unlikely considering additional backups 
that I also have in place.  If I do not wipe it will Lion start afresh leaving 
the old stuff there and inaccessible or will it build on that material 
retaining much of it which will be unchanged?  I will retain also a clone of my 
Snow Leopard boot drive.  
Severin Crisp

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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

If you upgrade to Lion, Time Machine will just add backups like normal, I still 
have my Snow Leopard backups  my ‘now’ Lion backups all in Time Machine /Time 
Capsule.

The problem I mentioned previously on WAMUG is IF you have backed up in Lion 
with TM and downgrade back to SL … its not backward compatible, but going 
forward is NOT a problem.

But if you do want to ‘Wipe’ the Time Machine drive and start again with an 
empty external drive.
Just use Use Disk Utility to reformat the drive.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 15/11/2011, at 4:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 I am on the brink of going from Snow Leopard to Lion after having an extended 
 and trouble free play with an upgraded complete clone on a separate FW800 
 drive.  My three printers and scanner are fine, I  can access both my banks 
 and the ATO and the only things that do not work I knew of in advance and 
 they are unimportant.  When I do this what is the advice on my Time Machine 
 disk?  My own inclination is to wipe it clean and start again which of course 
 erases items that I just might want, highly unlikely considering additional 
 backups that I also have in place.  If I do not wipe it will Lion start 
 afresh leaving the old stuff there and inaccessible or will it build on that 
 material retaining much of it which will be unchanged?  I will retain also a 
 clone of my Snow Leopard boot drive.  
 Severin Crisp
 
   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
 

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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks, Ronni, I will just carry on as is!
Regards
Severin
On 15/11/2011, at 5:23 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Severin,
 
 If you upgrade to Lion, Time Machine will just add backups like normal, I 
 still have my Snow Leopard backups  my ‘now’ Lion backups all in Time 
 Machine /Time Capsule.
 
 The problem I mentioned previously on WAMUG is IF you have backed up in Lion 
 with TM and downgrade back to SL … its not backward compatible, but going 
 forward is NOT a problem.
 
 But if you do want to ‘Wipe’ the Time Machine drive and start again with an 
 empty external drive.
 Just use Use Disk Utility to reformat the drive.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 15/11/2011, at 4:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 I am on the brink of going from Snow Leopard to Lion after having an 
 extended and trouble free play with an upgraded complete clone on a separate 
 FW800 drive.  My three printers and scanner are fine, I  can access both my 
 banks and the ATO and the only things that do not work I knew of in advance 
 and they are unimportant.  When I do this what is the advice on my Time 
 Machine disk?  My own inclination is to wipe it clean and start again which 
 of course erases items that I just might want, highly unlikely considering 
 additional backups that I also have in place.  If I do not wipe it will Lion 
 start afresh leaving the old stuff there and inaccessible or will it build 
 on that material retaining much of it which will be unchanged?  I will 
 retain also a clone of my Snow Leopard boot drive.  
 Severin Crisp
 
  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
 
 
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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Ronda Brown]

You’re welcome Severin,

If you were using Time Machine before, it will continue working under Lion 
without further intervention.

What size is the external drive you are using for Time Machine?
If its at least a 1TB with a lot of room still on it, that is the way I would 
go, but if it isn’t I would wipe it and start again.

Its a very good idea to keep a bootable clone of your Snow Leopard installation 
… I also kept one ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 15/11/2011, at 5:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 Thanks, Ronni, I will just carry on as is!
 Regards
 Severin
 On 15/11/2011, at 5:23 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 If you upgrade to Lion, Time Machine will just add backups like normal, I 
 still have my Snow Leopard backups  my ‘now’ Lion backups all in Time 
 Machine /Time Capsule.
 
 The problem I mentioned previously on WAMUG is IF you have backed up in Lion 
 with TM and downgrade back to SL … its not backward compatible, but going 
 forward is NOT a problem.
 
 But if you do want to ‘Wipe’ the Time Machine drive and start again with an 
 empty external drive.
 Just use Use Disk Utility to reformat the drive.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 15/11/2011, at 4:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 I am on the brink of going from Snow Leopard to Lion after having an 
 extended and trouble free play with an upgraded complete clone on a 
 separate FW800 drive.  My three printers and scanner are fine, I  can 
 access both my banks and the ATO and the only things that do not work I 
 knew of in advance and they are unimportant.  When I do this what is the 
 advice on my Time Machine disk?  My own inclination is to wipe it clean and 
 start again which of course erases items that I just might want, highly 
 unlikely considering additional backups that I also have in place.  If I do 
 not wipe it will Lion start afresh leaving the old stuff there and 
 inaccessible or will it build on that material retaining much of it which 
 will be unchanged?  I will retain also a clone of my Snow Leopard boot 
 drive.  
 Severin Crisp
 
 Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
  Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
  email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  

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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Severin Crisp]

The TM disk is 1TB, currently about 430GB free. so no space worry.  
Severin

On 15/11/2011, at 5:35 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 You’re welcome Severin,
 
 If you were using Time Machine before, it will continue working under Lion 
 without further intervention.
 
 What size is the external drive you are using for Time Machine?
 If its at least a 1TB with a lot of room still on it, that is the way I would 
 go, but if it isn’t I would wipe it and start again.
 
 Its a very good idea to keep a bootable clone of your Snow Leopard 
 installation … I also kept one ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 15/11/2011, at 5:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 Thanks, Ronni, I will just carry on as is!
 Regards
 Severin
 On 15/11/2011, at 5:23 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 If you upgrade to Lion, Time Machine will just add backups like normal, I 
 still have my Snow Leopard backups  my ‘now’ Lion backups all in Time 
 Machine /Time Capsule.
 
 The problem I mentioned previously on WAMUG is IF you have backed up in 
 Lion with TM and downgrade back to SL … its not backward compatible, but 
 going forward is NOT a problem.
 
 But if you do want to ‘Wipe’ the Time Machine drive and start again with an 
 empty external drive.
 Just use Use Disk Utility to reformat the drive.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 15/11/2011, at 4:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 I am on the brink of going from Snow Leopard to Lion after having an 
 extended and trouble free play with an upgraded complete clone on a 
 separate FW800 drive.  My three printers and scanner are fine, I  can 
 access both my banks and the ATO and the only things that do not work I 
 knew of in advance and they are unimportant.  When I do this what is the 
 advice on my Time Machine disk?  My own inclination is to wipe it clean 
 and start again which of course erases items that I just might want, 
 highly unlikely considering additional backups that I also have in place.  
 If I do not wipe it will Lion start afresh leaving the old stuff there and 
 inaccessible or will it build on that material retaining much of it which 
 will be unchanged?  I will retain also a clone of my Snow Leopard boot 
 drive.  
 Severin Crisp
 
Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
 Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 15/11/2011, at 4:57 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 I am on the brink of going from Snow Leopard to Lion after having an extended 
 and trouble free play with an upgraded complete clone on a separate FW800 
 drive.  My three printers and scanner are fine, I  can access both my banks 
 and the ATO and the only things that do not work I knew of in advance and 
 they are unimportant.  When I do this what is the advice on my Time Machine 
 disk?  My own inclination is to wipe it clean and start again which of course 
 erases items that I just might want, highly unlikely considering additional 
 backups that I also have in place.  If I do not wipe it will Lion start 
 afresh leaving the old stuff there and inaccessible or will it build on that 
 material retaining much of it which will be unchanged?  I will retain also a 
 clone of my Snow Leopard boot drive.  
 Severin Crisp
 

I upgraded to Lion a few weeks ago, but I did it following a time where not 
only had I been away for almost a fortnight, I had also had the hard drive in 
my iMac changed while I was away (it was one those faulty 1Tb Seagate drives 
sold in iMacs between May and July this year). After restoring from a CCC 
clone, Time Machine objected at the first backup attempt, complaining that 
there was not enough room left on the backup disk. Obviously it was not happy 
with some that had changed, perhaps a hardware signature of some sort or 
something else. In any event, I took the via that the Time Machine backup was 
just that: a backup. It's not a storage facility. I simply formatted the Time 
Machine disk and started again, in the knowledge that I really hadn't needed 
anything in the Time Machine archives up to that point anyway. 

Like you, I still have that original clone of my Snow Leopard build, so I'm 
happy that I have everything covered. 

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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

On 16/11/2011, at 7:43 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 I upgraded to Lion a few weeks ago, but I did it following a time where not 
 only had I been away for almost a fortnight, I had also had the hard drive in 
 my iMac changed while I was away (it was one those faulty 1Tb Seagate 
 drives sold in iMacs between May and July this year). After restoring from a 
 CCC clone, Time Machine objected at the first backup attempt, complaining 
 that there was not enough room left on the backup disk. Obviously it was not 
 happy with some that had changed, perhaps a hardware signature of some sort 
 or something else.

Time Machine always does a Full Backup after restoring from a clone.”

Did you give the New Drive the same name as the Old Drive?

If when doing a clone using SuperDuper or CCC and restoring, if you give the 
drive the same name as the old drive then when Time Machine does an initial 
backup it does a Full Backup but you can still access the previous backups in 
Time Machine. 

However if you give the newly restored drive a different name then it does a 
full backup but you cannot access the previous backups in Time Machine.

TM will continue your old backup sequence but it will do a complete new backup 
of your new drive instead of the usual incremental one the first time it backs 
up. 

So if you want to save space on the TM backup drive, you do what you did ;-) … 
reformat TC and start a new backup sequence altogether.

 In any event, I took the via that the Time Machine backup was just that: a 
 backup. It's not a storage facility. I simply formatted the Time Machine disk 
 and started again, in the knowledge that I really hadn't needed anything in 
 the Time Machine archives up to that point anyway. 

I had problems each time I've had logic boards replaced in my 17” MacBook Pros.
Time Machine depends on the MAC address of a computer to tell one system from 
another. 
This means that if you have your Mac repaired with a new logic board, or 
replace your system with a new one, you can't resume backups where you left 
off. 
If you know of the problem, though, it's not very hard to fix. You need to 
re-pair the backup to the new logic board's MAC address. 
Further complicating matters is the ACL which prevents you from changing the 
system ID information. 

In the end, I found it was quicker and much easier though to just delete the 
sparsebundle on my TM /TC backup and start new TM backups.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Advice please, Time Machine for Lion

[Ronda Brown]

Hi again people,

Just to clarify my previous reply.
I just did a search back through my notes on the times I’ve had a Logic Board 
replaced on one of my MBPs.
I found that the ones replaced when I was using Leopard OS X 10.5.8, what I 
posted in my previous email was correct.

But the last one I had replaced when using Snow Leopard I found this ‘problem’ 
had been corrected in Snow Leopard.

/Quote:
I was pleasantly surprised to discover Snow Leopard knows about this problem 
and has a solution.  
My first backup with the new logic board resulted in the following dialogue:  
“Would you like to reuse the backup “/Volumes/Data/x.sparsebundle” with 
this computer?  The backup was created on a different computer. 
If you reuse this backup it can no longer be used by the original computer.”  
The options were “Do Not Backup Now”, “Create New Backup”, and “Reuse Backup”.  
Clicking on “Reuse Backup” does all the MAC address fix-up while clicking 
“Create New Backup” will result in a new Time Machine database being created.
/End Quote:

Sorry if I caused some confusion.

On 16/11/2011, at 9:25 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 I had problems each time I've had logic boards replaced in my 17” MacBook 
 Pros.
 Time Machine depends on the MAC address of a computer to tell one system from 
 another. 
 This means that if you have your Mac repaired with a new logic board, or 
 replace your system with a new one, you can't resume backups where you left 
 off. 
 If you know of the problem, though, it's not very hard to fix. You need to 
 re-pair the backup to the new logic board's MAC address. 
 Further complicating matters is the ACL which prevents you from changing the 
 system ID information. 
 
 In the end, I found it was quicker and much easier though to just delete the 
 sparsebundle on my TM /TC backup and start new TM backups.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.2 Lion
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Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[Peter Sealy]

Carlo, many thanks. Will go through this carefully.


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Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[cm]

Hi again Peter,

Sorry for the delay, but here is a fuller account of some options for you...

I just now reread your original post of this thread. You have a thorough backup 
regimen and are therefore in an excellent position to get exactly the 
configuration you want. You could if you like buy Lion now and do some 
experimenting to see the path you would like to take. You will get Lion 10.7.2 
as a free update of the current version in any case.

Here is how you can go about with a few experiments. It is similar to the path 
suggested earlier for an upgrade except that you do it to an external drive 
rather than your internal drive. 

1) Go to the Mac App Store and buy a copy of OS X 10.7 Lion. If it prompts you 
to upgrade just hit Cancel and close the app.
2) At this point, backup you system to an eternal drive, put it aside ,and 
leave it untouched from here on. Also make sure your Time Machine backup is up 
to date.

You are unlikely to need to use either backup but the very reason we make 
backups is to cover unlikely or unexpected situation -- or dare I say it, 
absolute blunders. :-)


Experiment one (easy): Direct upgrade keeping all apps and settings. I know you 
said you would like to start afresh, but this is by far the option that entails 
the least amount of work. Give it a try and if you are happy with the result 
there is no need to go further

1) Using Super Duper make a clone of you OS X 10.6 system to an external drive. 
(A different drive to you safe backup mentioned above)
2) Run the OS X 10.7 Lion app and tell it to install to the external drive.

This will upgrade you 10.6 installation to 10.7. You can then boot to the 
external drive by rebooting with the option key held down. Try out Lion and see 
what you think.

Experiment two (medium difficulty): Clean install of Lion using Migration 
Assistant.
1) Attach a freshly formatted or freshly erased external drive. You can reuse 
the drive from experiment one -- just run Disk Utility and erase its contents.
2) Run the OS X 10.7 Lion app and tell it to install to the external drive. 
During the install the migration assistant will ask you if you want to port 
data and apps from another Mac or a Windows PC.

Have a look at Daniel's post earlier in this thread. If you want to reinstall 
only all you apps an leave out the cruft, port across only your email and data. 
You will then have a clean Lion install with all your data but no apps.

This is the option I took. A word of warning, your iLife Apps are not ported 
across. You will need either to do without them or purchase them from the Mac 
App Store. If you haver purchased a new Mac that is already running Lion, the 
purchase include the purchase of the iLife Apps from the App Store and you can 
thus re-download them for free to you current computer.

Experiment three (hard): Clean install of Lion with no migration of data or apps

Proceed as in experiment two but when given the option to migrate data or apps 
select not now.

This gives you a bare Lion install with no trace of your current data or apps. 
You need to port across you contacts, calendars, email settings, Safari 
bookmarks, iTunes music, and word processing files.

--- end of experiments ---

Believe it or not, once iCloud is introduced later this year, experiment three 
will also be easy. We will be able to store our contacts, and calendars to the 
cloud. Also you will be able to freshly download all of you iTunes purchase -- 
one can already re-download apps purchased from the Mac App Store. Finally from 
within Apples iWork sweet (and from any other app that chooses to take 
advantage of iCloud like Microsoft Office) you can choose to save any document 
in iCloud and thus access it from any computer logged on with your Apple ID.

So you have many options to try out if you choose. If you are overwhelmed with 
choice just go for experiment two. :-)

Cheers,
Carlo






On 2011-08-12, at 07:18, Peter Sealy wrote:

 Thanks Daniel and Carlo. Some food for thought there. I notice from the web 
 that Lion 10.7.2 is in beta testing so I think I shall wait for that to come 
 on stream before committing.
 
 Carlo are you yet able to add to your post.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
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Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[cm]

Hi Wammuggers,

I just wanted clear up possible confusion for anyone else who happens to 
casually read this thread and might get the impression that the upgrade to OS X 
10.7 Lion is a difficult move. The standard upgrade to OS X 10.7 Lion is dead 
easy and works very well for most situation. Just follow a slightly modified 
version of Ronni's normal steps for an upgrade:

1. Download the Lion OS X 10.7 upgrade app from the Mac App Store.
2. Backup your system -- use Time Machine and / or a bootable clone to an 
external disk.
3. Repair permissions before the upgrade.
4. Turn off Time Machine in System Preferences.
5. Unmount and disconnect any external USB and firewire drives.
6. Run the Lion OS X 10.7 upgrade app and apply it to your OS X10.6 (or 
earlier) install.
7. Repair permissions again.
8. Run Software Update to get any upgrades to apps or point releases of the 
operating system.
9. Reconnect your backup drive.
10. Turn on Time Machine in System Preferences and complete a backup. 
(Optionally make another clone to a different external drive -- I did).

And that's it!

If as in Peter's case you want to trim down your apps you can do this before or 
after the upgrade -- just remember to get a backup before you start deleting 
stuff incase you go one step to far. :-) Peter on rethinking your situation, I 
think this would be the easiest path for you as well.

You might also take the opportunity do go through your data files, movies, 
photos and songs and delete duplicates and unwanted relics.

Cheers,
Carlo

With thanks to Ronni who's canonical upgrade steps I paraphrased above.


On 2011-08-12, at 21:35, cm wrote:

 Hi again Peter,
 
 Sorry for the delay, but here is a fuller account of some options for you...
 
 I just now reread your original post of this thread. You have a thorough 
 backup regimen and are therefore in an excellent position to get exactly the 
 configuration you want. You could if you like buy Lion now and do some 
 experimenting to see the path you would like to take. You will get Lion 
 10.7.2 as a free update of the current version in any case.
 
 Here is how you can go about with a few experiments. It is similar to the 
 path suggested earlier for an upgrade except that you do it to an external 
 drive rather than your internal drive. 
 
 1) Go to the Mac App Store and buy a copy of OS X 10.7 Lion. If it prompts 
 you to upgrade just hit Cancel and close the app.
 2) At this point, backup you system to an eternal drive, put it aside ,and 
 leave it untouched from here on. Also make sure your Time Machine backup is 
 up to date.
 
 You are unlikely to need to use either backup but the very reason we make 
 backups is to cover unlikely or unexpected situation -- or dare I say it, 
 absolute blunders. :-)
 
 
 Experiment one (easy): Direct upgrade keeping all apps and settings. I know 
 you said you would like to start afresh, but this is by far the option that 
 entails the least amount of work. Give it a try and if you are happy with the 
 result there is no need to go further
 
 1) Using Super Duper make a clone of you OS X 10.6 system to an external 
 drive. (A different drive to you safe backup mentioned above)
 2) Run the OS X 10.7 Lion app and tell it to install to the external drive.
 
 This will upgrade you 10.6 installation to 10.7. You can then boot to the 
 external drive by rebooting with the option key held down. Try out Lion and 
 see what you think.
 
 Experiment two (medium difficulty): Clean install of Lion using Migration 
 Assistant.
 1) Attach a freshly formatted or freshly erased external drive. You can reuse 
 the drive from experiment one -- just run Disk Utility and erase its contents.
 2) Run the OS X 10.7 Lion app and tell it to install to the external drive. 
 During the install the migration assistant will ask you if you want to port 
 data and apps from another Mac or a Windows PC.
 
 Have a look at Daniel's post earlier in this thread. If you want to reinstall 
 only all you apps an leave out the cruft, port across only your email and 
 data. You will then have a clean Lion install with all your data but no apps.
 
 This is the option I took. A word of warning, your iLife Apps are not ported 
 across. You will need either to do without them or purchase them from the Mac 
 App Store. If you haver purchased a new Mac that is already running Lion, the 
 purchase include the purchase of the iLife Apps from the App Store and you 
 can thus re-download them for free to you current computer.
 
 Experiment three (hard): Clean install of Lion with no migration of data or 
 apps
 
 Proceed as in experiment two but when given the option to migrate data or 
 apps select not now.
 
 This gives you a bare Lion install with no trace of your current data or 
 apps. You need to port across you contacts, calendars, email settings, Safari 
 bookmarks, iTunes music, and word processing files.
 
 --- end of experiments ---
 
 Believe it or not, once iCloud is 

Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[Peter Sealy]

Thanks Daniel and Carlo. Some food for thought there. I notice from the web 
that Lion 10.7.2 is in beta testing so I think I shall wait for that to come on 
stream before committing.

Carlo are you yet able to add to your post.

Thanks




On 10/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:

 I would much appreciate some advice on my proposal to clean install Lion.








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Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[cm]

Hi Peter,

I am just on my out to that cathedral of all market places, the Apple Retail 
Store in Hay Street. I am going to pick up a Magic Track Pad and help a fried 
select a new MacBook Air. Fun times. :-)

Now that I know you are going to proceed, I will definitely post again later 
today or this evening.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-08-12, at 07:18, Peter Sealy wrote:

 Thanks Daniel and Carlo. Some food for thought there. I notice from the web 
 that Lion 10.7.2 is in beta testing so I think I shall wait for that to come 
 on stream before committing.
 
 Carlo are you yet able to add to your post.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 On 10/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:
 
 I would much appreciate some advice on my proposal to clean install Lion.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Lion Clean Install-advice please

[Peter Sealy]

I would much appreciate some advice on my proposal to clean install Lion. I 
have not done an upgrade by clean install since so long ago I forget how to. I 
shall have adequate safety precautions: (1) I have had Time Machine daily 
backup on an external HDD for quite some time; (2) I have a daily SuperDuper 
clone on another external HDD, (3) and before I commence upgrading I shall do 
another clone [of some type] on another external HDD, this latter one to be the 
source for data to be transferred to the new Lion OS on my iMac internal HDD by 
FW. My iMac meets the requirements for Lion and I am running 10.6.8. I am aware 
that I can install Lion over my current iMac HDD 10.6.8. But I am considering 
taking the opportunity to leave behind the bits and pieces which have 
undoubtedly littered the current OS. All my drives have plenty of space.

First step, I have read how to download Lion and make a DVD of Lion to be used 
for install purpose. So I shall do this.

Option 1. Wipe the iMac HDD, reinstall 10.6 from the SL Install DVD, combo 
update to 10.6.8 (I have retained the pkg of this update), then install Lion 
(from my homemade Lion DVD) over that 10.6.8. That should give me a pristine 
Lion. Is that so?

Option 2. Wipe the iMac HDD, then install Lion (from my homemade DVD) directly 
onto my iMac HDD. That will give me a pristine Lion. Is that so?

Now I am unsure whether I can just do Option 2. I think I have read among the 
gazillion web pages on Lion that such procedure is possible. Is that correct? 
Obviously if so, there is no need to go the Option 1 route.

Sorry if that all sounds convoluted but I am unsure of the best way to proceed.

Next, having installed a pristine Lion on my iMac HDD, I now need to transfer 
various data from one of my 10.6.8 clones. And this is where my senior moments 
collide. Naturally I will have the Apple Lion software in place. 

If I use Migration Assistant to transfer the obvious data how do I get my other 
third-party applications into Lion. Can I just drag-drop each application from 
the 10.6.8 clone to Lion and if so will the application create its own prefs 
first time I start it up? I do have the necessary relevant serial numbers. I 
have not purchased any apps from the Mac App Store. 

I have not used Migration Assistant previously. So, for instance, does it 
transfer all my emails and preferences [I use Apple's Mail.app] from the 10.6.8 
clone to Lion's Mail.app?

Or is it better to not use Migration Assistant at all and just transfer by 
drag-drop any data, applications, etc as I find I need them. I guess I am not 
alone here in saying that I have over a long time downloaded many applications 
on a 'May come in handy one day' basis and have never used and forgotten them. 
So after a period of time if I have not transferred items to Lion I will feel 
comfortable in eliminating them.

I would be grateful for any pointers on how to proceed. There seems to be any 
number of web pages on upgrading but none that I have found give the kind of 
Dummies level manual I am looking for. Perhaps someone here knows where I can 
look. 

Sorry for the long post.




Peter Sealy
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Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Peter

Option two will work fine.
I did this on my MacPro, even from the straight download. Downloaded it to
my 10.6.8 on one drive and told it to install onto a second drive (that had
nothing on it).
So yes, option two erase and install from your DVD will work fine.

Moving your data and Applications over will be the fun part.
Generally you can't just drag and drop Applications I'm afraid as a lot of
them now have parts installed into other places on the System, so just
dragging it won't get these.
You have a few options really,..well quite a few but I'll mention two.

Option one. You could run Migration Assistant and get your data from one of
your clones. You can choose to Migrate everything, all your data and all
your Applications. This however, will bring over all your Applications,
including some (as you mention) that you may not want. You could then go
through and clean it up.

Option two. Migrate just your data only. You have the option to tell it not
to Migrate your Applications. (You'll still have the OSX Applications as
they would be there from the Lion install, well apart from iLife.
You would then need to reinstall iLife (from your iMac's DVD), and then go
through and reinstall any of the Applications you did want manually. This
takes a lot longer to do, but you get it all afresh. I do this every time
I get a new machine (about once a year).  Takes a bit longer to do it, but
you get only your data coming with you, and everything new.

Hope that helps.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 10/8/11 2:53 PM, Peter Sealy carp...@internode.on.net wrote:

 I would much appreciate some advice on my proposal to clean install Lion. I
 have not done an upgrade by clean install since so long ago I forget how to. I
 shall have adequate safety precautions: (1) I have had Time Machine daily
 backup on an external HDD for quite some time; (2) I have a daily SuperDuper
 clone on another external HDD, (3) and before I commence upgrading I shall do
 another clone [of some type] on another external HDD, this latter one to be
 the source for data to be transferred to the new Lion OS on my iMac internal
 HDD by FW. My iMac meets the requirements for Lion and I am running 10.6.8. I
 am aware that I can install Lion over my current iMac HDD 10.6.8. But I am
 considering taking the opportunity to leave behind the bits and pieces which
 have undoubtedly littered the current OS. All my drives have plenty of space.
 
 First step, I have read how to download Lion and make a DVD of Lion to be used
 for install purpose. So I shall do this.
 
 Option 1. Wipe the iMac HDD, reinstall 10.6 from the SL Install DVD, combo
 update to 10.6.8 (I have retained the pkg of this update), then install Lion
 (from my homemade Lion DVD) over that 10.6.8. That should give me a pristine
 Lion. Is that so?
 
 Option 2. Wipe the iMac HDD, then install Lion (from my homemade DVD) directly
 onto my iMac HDD. That will give me a pristine Lion. Is that so?
 
 Now I am unsure whether I can just do Option 2. I think I have read among the
 gazillion web pages on Lion that such procedure is possible. Is that correct?
 Obviously if so, there is no need to go the Option 1 route.
 
 Sorry if that all sounds convoluted but I am unsure of the best way to
 proceed.
 
 Next, having installed a pristine Lion on my iMac HDD, I now need to transfer
 various data from one of my 10.6.8 clones. And this is where my senior moments
 collide. Naturally I will have the Apple Lion software in place.
 
 If I use Migration Assistant to transfer the obvious data how do I get my
 other third-party applications into Lion. Can I just drag-drop each
 application from the 10.6.8 clone to Lion and if so will the application
 create its own prefs first time I start it up? I do have the necessary
 relevant serial numbers. I have not purchased any apps from the Mac App Store.
 
 I have not used Migration Assistant previously. So, for instance, does it
 transfer all my emails and preferences [I use Apple's Mail.app] from the
 10.6.8 clone to Lion's Mail.app?
 
 Or is it better to not use Migration Assistant at all and just transfer by
 drag-drop any data, applications, etc as I find I need them. I guess I am not
 alone here in saying that I have over a long time downloaded many applications
 on a 'May come in handy one day' basis and have never used and forgotten them.
 So after a period of time if I have not transferred items to Lion I will feel
 comfortable in eliminating them.
 
 I would be grateful for any pointers on how to proceed. There seems to be any
 number of web pages on upgrading but none that I have found give the kind of
 Dummies level manual I am looking for. Perhaps someone here knows where I can
 look. 
 
 Sorry for the long 

Re: Lion Clean Install-advice please

[cm]

Hi Peter,

I also, on upgrading to Lion, took the opportunity to shed a lot of the cruft  
that I had accumulated over the years. It is also a great opportunity to make 
sure that applications that run in the background are only ported across if 
absolutely necessary. Having said that I think Option 2 is your best bet -- I 
will even offer a modification to it since I have sworn off large chunks of 
plastic with low data density that go by the name of DVD. 

You could :
1) Download the Lion OS X 10.7 app from the App Store to your current  OS X10.6 
install. 
2) Make one last copy of your 10.6 install to an external drive so you can be 
sure you have missed nothing. 
3) Boot from the external drive with running 10.6 and run disk utility to erase 
your internal drive
4) Run the Lion install app from you external drive and install an unmodified 
copy of Lion to your internal drive.

You can then proceed to port the data and accounts across.

I am just on my way out but others can post on the data porting or I will write 
again when I get back.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-08-10, at 14:53, Peter Sealy wrote:

 I would much appreciate some advice on my proposal to clean install Lion. I 
 have not done an upgrade by clean install since so long ago I forget how to. 
 I shall have adequate safety precautions: (1) I have had Time Machine daily 
 backup on an external HDD for quite some time; (2) I have a daily SuperDuper 
 clone on another external HDD, (3) and before I commence upgrading I shall do 
 another clone [of some type] on another external HDD, this latter one to be 
 the source for data to be transferred to the new Lion OS on my iMac internal 
 HDD by FW. My iMac meets the requirements for Lion and I am running 10.6.8. I 
 am aware that I can install Lion over my current iMac HDD 10.6.8. But I am 
 considering taking the opportunity to leave behind the bits and pieces which 
 have undoubtedly littered the current OS. All my drives have plenty of space.
 
 First step, I have read how to download Lion and make a DVD of Lion to be 
 used for install purpose. So I shall do this.
 
 Option 1. Wipe the iMac HDD, reinstall 10.6 from the SL Install DVD, combo 
 update to 10.6.8 (I have retained the pkg of this update), then install Lion 
 (from my homemade Lion DVD) over that 10.6.8. That should give me a pristine 
 Lion. Is that so?
 
 Option 2. Wipe the iMac HDD, then install Lion (from my homemade DVD) 
 directly onto my iMac HDD. That will give me a pristine Lion. Is that so?
 
 Now I am unsure whether I can just do Option 2. I think I have read among the 
 gazillion web pages on Lion that such procedure is possible. Is that correct? 
 Obviously if so, there is no need to go the Option 1 route.
 
 Sorry if that all sounds convoluted but I am unsure of the best way to 
 proceed.
 
 Next, having installed a pristine Lion on my iMac HDD, I now need to transfer 
 various data from one of my 10.6.8 clones. And this is where my senior 
 moments collide. Naturally I will have the Apple Lion software in place. 
 
 If I use Migration Assistant to transfer the obvious data how do I get my 
 other third-party applications into Lion. Can I just drag-drop each 
 application from the 10.6.8 clone to Lion and if so will the application 
 create its own prefs first time I start it up? I do have the necessary 
 relevant serial numbers. I have not purchased any apps from the Mac App 
 Store. 
 
 I have not used Migration Assistant previously. So, for instance, does it 
 transfer all my emails and preferences [I use Apple's Mail.app] from the 
 10.6.8 clone to Lion's Mail.app?
 
 Or is it better to not use Migration Assistant at all and just transfer by 
 drag-drop any data, applications, etc as I find I need them. I guess I am not 
 alone here in saying that I have over a long time downloaded many 
 applications on a 'May come in handy one day' basis and have never used and 
 forgotten them. So after a period of time if I have not transferred items to 
 Lion I will feel comfortable in eliminating them.
 
 I would be grateful for any pointers on how to proceed. There seems to be any 
 number of web pages on upgrading but none that I have found give the kind of 
 Dummies level manual I am looking for. Perhaps someone here knows where I can 
 look. 
 
 Sorry for the long post.
 
 
 
 
 Peter Sealy
 Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
 
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airport ethernet network advice please

[gary dorn]

howdy
I was a fortunate buyer in the PLC sale last week and managed to 
acquire a G3 ibook 500 with airport that fully works and charges to 
100% . I also purchased  an original Airport card for our 1.25 G4 
Mirror door Powermac.


As I had an airport extreme base station 802.11n, I decided to set up 
an airport network with our 3 computers during the week.

the hardware is setup as

netgear 4 port ADSL router- connected to web

Apple airport extreme base station - connected via ethernet to router

Macpro 2.66,  OS10.4 connected to Airport base station via ethernet 
cable ( does not have an airport extreme card yet) file sharing 
turned on


Powermac G4 1.25,  OS 10.4 connected to ADSL router via ethernet 
cable, file sharing turned on ( this has an a airport card 802.11b 
installed and have a airport connection with the ibook


ibook G3,  0S 10.3.9  with airport 802.11b wirelessly connected to 
airport base station, file sharing turned on.


All 3 connected to the web fine.

Prior to setting up the airport network , file sharing worked okay 
most of the time between MacPro  G4 via ethernet ( both connected to 
ADSL router)


 But now file sharing does not work,  even though the various servers 
show up in the network panel.

so when I go  Finder GOconnect to serverbrowseconnect
 all I get is the ticking 120 sec countdown and no network  connection

where have I gone wrong and what do I need to do to get File sharing to work.
chow

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Re: airport ethernet network advice please

[Mervyn Giuliana Bond]

In connecting from my iMac to our iBook I use the same steps as you 
described below.
However, for a reason I haven't bothered to find out these steps do 
not work in connecting from the iBook to the iMac.
Instead I click on the Finder icon in the Dock.  The resulting window 
has a Network button top left.  I click on that and up comes the 
iMac's name and a connection can be made.

Cheers
Merv

At 10:42 AM +0800 29/10/07, gary dorn wrote:

howdy
I was a fortunate buyer in the PLC sale last week and managed to 
acquire a G3 ibook 500 with airport that fully works and charges to 
100% . I also purchased  an original Airport card for our 1.25 G4 
Mirror door Powermac.


As I had an airport extreme base station 802.11n, I decided to set 
up an airport network with our 3 computers during the week.

the hardware is setup as

netgear 4 port ADSL router- connected to web

Apple airport extreme base station - connected via ethernet to router

Macpro 2.66,  OS10.4 connected to Airport base station via ethernet 
cable ( does not have an airport extreme card yet) file sharing 
turned on


Powermac G4 1.25,  OS 10.4 connected to ADSL router via ethernet 
cable, file sharing turned on ( this has an a airport card 802.11b 
installed and have a airport connection with the ibook


ibook G3,  0S 10.3.9  with airport 802.11b wirelessly connected to 
airport base station, file sharing turned on.


All 3 connected to the web fine.

Prior to setting up the airport network , file sharing worked okay 
most of the time between MacPro  G4 via ethernet ( both connected 
to ADSL router)


 But now file sharing does not work,  even though the various 
servers show up in the network panel.

so when I go  Finder GOconnect to serverbrowseconnect
 all I get is the ticking 120 sec countdown and no network  connection

where have I gone wrong and what do I need to do to get File sharing to work.
chow

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Advice please :-)

[McCallum Malcolm]

Hi Wamuggers.

My son in law and daughter + Granddaughter are coming to stay while  
their house is demolished and rebuilt.  ;-)  While they live with us  
they want to join my wireless network.  Their computer is a desktop  
PC :-(.   I could take an ethernet cable to their room but that would  
be a fairly big undertaking and I wondered how I could do it via  
wireless with the knowledge that in the new house they want to be  
broadband and wireless so any equipment would need to be forward useful


I would be grateful for any advice from the group,
Mac

Re: Advice please :-)

[Ronda Brown]

On 18/01/2006, at 10:34 AM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:


Hi Wamuggers.

My son in law and daughter + Granddaughter are coming to stay while  
their house is demolished and rebuilt.  ;-)  While they live with  
us they want to join my wireless network.  Their computer is a  
desktop PC :-(.   I could take an ethernet cable to their room but  
that would be a fairly big undertaking and I wondered how I could  
do it via wireless with the knowledge that in the new house they  
want to be broadband and wireless so any equipment would need to be  
forward useful


I would be grateful for any advice from the group,
Mac


Hi Mac,

All they need to connect to your Airport Extreme Network is a  
'Wireless card' installed on the PC.
If they using WindowsXP SP2 they will just see your Wireless Network  
 connect.
I have a 'couple' of friends who us windowsXP  they have no trouble  
connecting to my Airport Network.


If they are WindowsXP SP2 let me know and I'll send you a PDF with  
easy instructions.


Cheers,
Ronni
 

Advice please

[Severin Crisp]

At the moment I am dealing with very large Photoshop CS2 files, like  
650MB, large intrinsic size, many layers, masks etc and my G4/400 is  
really struggling, taking typically 5 minutes for a save.  Long times  
are spent with disk swapping and something like 2GB is swallowed up  
by system and photoshop swap files.  I have 1.3GB RAM and stacks of  
free disk space.  I realise that I really need more processor grunt  
but wonder if the modest investment in bringing the RAM up to the  
maximum 2GB will be a significant help.
Can anyone advise on this.  Alternatively, of course if anyone has a  
DP G5 that is not wanted I will happily accept it as a gift!

Thanks in advance, for the advice anyway, I live in hopes for the G5.
Severin Crisp


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Re: Advice please

[Glen Low]

Severin:

On 23/10/2005, at 11:16 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

At the moment I am dealing with very large Photoshop CS2 files,  
like 650MB, large intrinsic size, many layers, masks etc and my  
G4/400 is really struggling, taking typically 5 minutes for a  
save.  Long times are spent with disk swapping and something like  
2GB is swallowed up by system and photoshop swap files.  I have  
1.3GB RAM and stacks of free disk space.  I realise that I really  
need more processor grunt but wonder if the modest investment in  
bringing the RAM up to the maximum 2GB will be a significant help.


Sounds like your workflow is disk-bound. You can spring for a faster  
hard disk (more RPM, more cache and/or lower access), or add more  
memory.


512M PC133 SDRAM Memory = $95
Western Digital 120GB Hard Disk, 7200 RPM, 8 MB Cache, 8.5 ms access  
= $95


Another strategy is to put the PS scratch file on a different, faster  
hard disk.


Can anyone advise on this.  Alternatively, of course if anyone has  
a DP G5 that is not wanted I will happily accept it as a gift!

Thanks in advance, for the advice anyway, I live in hopes for the G5.


Since the release of the new G5's you should be able to get good  
deals out of ebay or perhaps your friendly neighbourhood Apple store:


http://computers.search.ebay.com.au/G5_Computers- 
IT_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8QQsacatZ160


Cheers, Glen Low


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A3 Printer advice please

[Mike Murray]

Hi

I'm thinking of getting an A3 inkjet printer for genealogy charts and 
the like (not too bothered about photographic quality) Anyone out there 
got an Epson 1160 or Canon S4500? Do they work with OS10.2.3? Any 
problems? Are consumables expensive? Any recommendations appreciated.

Thanks
Mike Murray


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Advice Please

[John Gordon]

Hello All,
I bought an imac 500/64/20 12 months ago and use it everyday for business,
MYOB etc.I would appreciate some advise on what program I need to keep the
hard drive at its best.

Kind Regards
John Gordon
Sales Manager

BrandFocus Promotional Products
P.O. Box 1250
Gwelup W.A. 6018
Australia 
Phone: (08) 9203 5383
Fax: (08) 9203 5373
Mobile: 0438 462 694
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.BrandFocus.com.au

Re: Advice Please

[Phillip Arena]

Diskwarrior v2 is excellent John. A good antivirus also such as Virex 
(with updated virus definitions downloaded from their website). Many 
of us will 'argue' regarding Nortons Utilities including Speed disk 
etc. I actually use all 3 'major' players togetherie Diskwarrior, 
Nortons Utilities and Techtool Pro 3. Then, again, I do push my 
machine a little.


However, I cannot recommend Diskwarrior 2 enough. which I use as 
part of regularly scheduled maintenance.


Of course, don't forget regular backups!!

Cheers

Phil


Hello All,
I bought an imac 500/64/20 12 months ago and use it everyday for business,
MYOB etc.I would appreciate some advise on what program I need to keep the
hard drive at its best.

Kind Regards
John Gordon
Sales Manager

BrandFocus Promotional Products
P.O. Box 1250
Gwelup W.A. 6018
Australia
Phone: (08) 9203 5383
Fax: (08) 9203 5373
Mobile: 0438 462 694
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.BrandFocus.com.au




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