Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
On 1 Nov 2004, at 8:10 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Morning Steven, On 1 Nov 2004, at 7:31am, Steven wrote: Hoping one of the keen audio techs can give me a hint or two please? I have an old audio cassette, the track on which I want to turn into a digital file for burning to CD, DVD, etc. At my disposal I have a 17 1.5GHz Powerbook running 10.3.5. I also have a Sony MiniDV Handycam DCR TRV17E. I thought the an obvious 1st step would be to connect the Handycam to the Powerbook via S-Video cable. I also have a c1982 vintage Technics RS-M205 tape deck on which to play the audio cassette. It has a couple of pairs of what I think are called RCA plugs coming out of the back, labelled Line In and Line Out. There's also another odd looking port labelled REC/PLAY, with whatever plug that feeds into it being about a centimetre diameter - I doubt that I'd have a plug for this anyway. Presumably I take the RCA plugs at the end of the Line Out cord (coming from the tape deck) and plug them into something else - unfortunately the Handycam lacks RCA jacks. (I do have what I think's called an A/C connecting cable, with a single jack into the Handycam at one end and three RCA plugs at the other end for connecting to a VCR). So can I use an amp or DVD player as a link between the tape deck and Handycam? Or do I bypass the Handycam altogether? I have a NAD C 340 Stereo Integrated Amplifier http://207.228.230.231/manual/NAD-C340.pdf, and a Panasonic DVD-K45 DVD/CD Player http://www.impax.com.au/dvdk45.html. Any tips appreciated! Many thanks...Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro Play the tape through a tape deck of which you have described connecting a Audio RCA male (usually two plugs red white) to mini jack ( Small headphone plug) into your PB via the LINE IN connection on the left hand side of PB being the second along this side. On the tape deck the cable will be connected to the line out side of which their should be a red white female RCA or could be labelled left right. Go to System Preferences and open sound click on line in and while tape is playing adjust the levels. As you have not suggested what software for configuring the audio I would suggest downloading wiretap (free) from Ambrosia software this will record any sound playing through any device and save to your desktop, just go through preferences to set-up specifics. But, make sure file is being saved as 48 khz 16 bit stereo aiff then import into iTunes to create CD I would suggest maybe recording different songs/sounds as different files to allow compilation simplicity. If you want editing capabilities of audio iMovie should be on PB this will allow some minor editing, otherwise their are many options ie Peak, FCPHD just depends on what you have at disposal or if it is an ongoing scenario their are trial versions available, so you can find an appropriate package? http://www.ambrosiasw.com/news/ PS: install X11 and their is a vast array of Unix/Linux audio software available also check versiontracker for Mac specific. Cheers! Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4 15 inch PowerBook /OS10.3.5 / GarageBand / iTunes/ WireTap I'm intrigued, and would love to record my old vinyl records to CD. However I've tried the above and it won't work. Obviously Steven wants to do the same with a tape. The input from my CD player or HiFi amplifier is analogue (output via RCA plugs). If I connect it to the sound input port of my G4 PowerBook, the sound control panel shows the input levels going up and down, but nothing comes from the internal speakers. It strikes me that my Mac won't recognise analogue sound. Will GarageBand or iTunes turn analogue sound into digital for recording on a CD, or compressing to MP3 etc? If not, what will? WireTap will only record sounds the computer is playing, presumably that is audible from the speakers, to an aiff file (whatever that is). It presumably converts digital sound from one form to another. My old system 7.6 computer would allow the recording of shorts snippets of sound from a microphone (great for creating your own rude alert sounds, but that's about all). System 10 won't even do that. Regards, John Taylor
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
John Taylor wrote: G4 15 inch PowerBook /OS10.3.5 / GarageBand / iTunes/ WireTap I'm intrigued, and would love to record my old vinyl records to CD. However I've tried the above and it won't work. Obviously Steven wants to do the same with a tape. The input from my CD player or HiFi amplifier is analogue (output via RCA plugs). If I connect it to the sound input port of my G4 PowerBook, the sound control panel shows the input levels going up and down, but nothing comes from the internal speakers. It strikes me that my Mac won't recognise analogue sound. That sounds odd, excuse the pun. It may just be something simple there. The main thing is the input level meter. Your mac certainly will record analogue sound IF it has an analog sound port, most macs do. It is the 3.5mm Stereo Mini Jack port. It looks much like a headphone jack. Not sure why the sound isnt coming out the speakers, not even sure it should, I dont actually do it that way myself. Feedback may well occur if there is play-through anyway. I record a session, then play it back later. WireTap will only record sounds the computer is playing, presumably that is audible from the speakers, to an aiff file (whatever that is). It presumably converts digital sound from one form to another. My old system 7.6 computer would allow the recording of shorts snippets of sound from a microphone (great for creating your own rude alert sounds, but that's about all). System 10 won't even do that. I regularly use Audio In: http://tc.versiontracker.com/product/redir/lid/313015/audio-in-103.hqx without any audio issues, it sometimes crashes but always after the recording is complete, so no big deal for freeware really. Good Luck Paul
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
Another link to Audio In: http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-34826/
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
WireTap will only record sounds the computer is playing, presumably that is audible from the speakers, to an aiff file (whatever that is). It presumably converts digital sound from one form to another. I was going to disagree with you about Wiretap only recording sound the computer is playing until I realized it's Wiretap Pro that I've been testing and that's why I can record microphone stuff with my copy of Wiretap. So for those wanting the ability it is coming if Wiretap Pro gets past the testing phase.
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
i'm using motu's digital perfomer as recording software (professional multichannel recording/editing) it works with the powerbooks internal sound sys very well and records @ 44.1k 16bit for cd's i transfer alot of vinils for radio productions... check the settings of audio/midi setup also your recording software, there are places where you have to tick (or remove) to enable play through, im sure the powerbook does not cause fluktuations in sound level the line in is set to -10db which is the usual line level of home equipment.. good luckJames On 03/11/2004, at 10:59, John Taylor wrote: On 1 Nov 2004, at 8:10 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Morning Steven, On 1 Nov 2004, at 7:31am, Steven wrote: Hoping one of the keen audio techs can give me a hint or two please? I have an old audio cassette, the track on which I want to turn into a digital file for burning to CD, DVD, etc. At my disposal I have a 17 1.5GHz Powerbook running 10.3.5. I also have a Sony MiniDV Handycam DCR TRV17E. I thought the an obvious 1st step would be to connect the Handycam to the Powerbook via S-Video cable. I also have a c1982 vintage Technics RS-M205 tape deck on which to play the audio cassette. It has a couple of pairs of what I think are called RCA plugs coming out of the back, labelled Line In and Line Out. There's also another odd looking port labelled REC/PLAY, with whatever plug that feeds into it being about a centimetre diameter - I doubt that I'd have a plug for this anyway. Presumably I take the RCA plugs at the end of the Line Out cord (coming from the tape deck) and plug them into something else - unfortunately the Handycam lacks RCA jacks. (I do have what I think's called an A/C connecting cable, with a single jack into the Handycam at one end and three RCA plugs at the other end for connecting to a VCR). So can I use an amp or DVD player as a link between the tape deck and Handycam? Or do I bypass the Handycam altogether? I have a NAD C 340 Stereo Integrated Amplifier http://207.228.230.231/manual/NAD-C340.pdf, and a Panasonic DVD-K45 DVD/CD Player http://www.impax.com.au/dvdk45.html. Any tips appreciated! Many thanks...Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro Play the tape through a tape deck of which you have described connecting a Audio RCA male (usually two plugs red white) to mini jack ( Small headphone plug) into your PB via the LINE IN connection on the left hand side of PB being the second along this side. On the tape deck the cable will be connected to the line out side of which their should be a red white female RCA or could be labelled left right. Go to System Preferences and open sound click on line in and while tape is playing adjust the levels. As you have not suggested what software for configuring the audio I would suggest downloading wiretap (free) from Ambrosia software this will record any sound playing through any device and save to your desktop, just go through preferences to set-up specifics. But, make sure file is being saved as 48 khz 16 bit stereo aiff then import into iTunes to create CD I would suggest maybe recording different songs/sounds as different files to allow compilation simplicity. If you want editing capabilities of audio iMovie should be on PB this will allow some minor editing, otherwise their are many options ie Peak, FCPHD just depends on what you have at disposal or if it is an ongoing scenario their are trial versions available, so you can find an appropriate package? http://www.ambrosiasw.com/news/ PS: install X11 and their is a vast array of Unix/Linux audio software available also check versiontracker for Mac specific. Cheers! Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4 15 inch PowerBook /OS10.3.5 / GarageBand / iTunes/ WireTap I'm intrigued, and would love to record my old vinyl records to CD. However I've tried the above and it won't work. Obviously Steven wants to do the same with a tape. The input from my CD player or HiFi amplifier is analogue (output via RCA plugs). If I connect it to the sound input port of my G4 PowerBook, the sound control panel shows the input levels going up and down, but nothing comes from the internal speakers. It strikes me that my Mac won't recognise analogue sound. Will GarageBand or iTunes turn analogue sound into digital for recording on a CD, or compressing to MP3 etc? If not, what will? WireTap will only record sounds the computer is playing, presumably that is audible from the speakers, to an aiff file (whatever that is). It presumably converts digital sound from one form to another. My old system 7.6 computer would allow the recording of shorts snippets of sound from a microphone (great for creating your
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook? add on
i have to add to my previous posting in the recording software you may have to block the play through / patch through! especially if in out is connected to the same hardware it could cause a high frequency feedback thus erratic audio level behaviour James On 03/11/2004, at 10:59, John Taylor wrote: On 1 Nov 2004, at 8:10 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Morning Steven, On 1 Nov 2004, at 7:31am, Steven wrote: Hoping one of the keen audio techs can give me a hint or two please? I have an old audio cassette, the track on which I want to turn into a digital file for burning to CD, DVD, etc. At my disposal I have a 17 1.5GHz Powerbook running 10.3.5. I also have a Sony MiniDV Handycam DCR TRV17E. I thought the an obvious 1st step would be to connect the Handycam to the Powerbook via S-Video cable. I also have a c1982 vintage Technics RS-M205 tape deck on which to play the audio cassette. It has a couple of pairs of what I think are called RCA plugs coming out of the back, labelled Line In and Line Out. There's also another odd looking port labelled REC/PLAY, with whatever plug that feeds into it being about a centimetre diameter - I doubt that I'd have a plug for this anyway. Presumably I take the RCA plugs at the end of the Line Out cord (coming from the tape deck) and plug them into something else - unfortunately the Handycam lacks RCA jacks. (I do have what I think's called an A/C connecting cable, with a single jack into the Handycam at one end and three RCA plugs at the other end for connecting to a VCR). So can I use an amp or DVD player as a link between the tape deck and Handycam? Or do I bypass the Handycam altogether? I have a NAD C 340 Stereo Integrated Amplifier http://207.228.230.231/manual/NAD-C340.pdf, and a Panasonic DVD-K45 DVD/CD
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
Morning Steven, On 1 Nov 2004, at 7:31am, Steven wrote: Hoping one of the keen audio techs can give me a hint or two please? I have an old audio cassette, the track on which I want to turn into a digital file for burning to CD, DVD, etc. At my disposal I have a 17 1.5GHz Powerbook running 10.3.5. I also have a Sony MiniDV Handycam DCR TRV17E. I thought the an obvious 1st step would be to connect the Handycam to the Powerbook via S-Video cable. I also have a c1982 vintage Technics RS-M205 tape deck on which to play the audio cassette. It has a couple of pairs of what I think are called RCA plugs coming out of the back, labelled Line In and Line Out. There's also another odd looking port labelled REC/PLAY, with whatever plug that feeds into it being about a centimetre diameter - I doubt that I'd have a plug for this anyway. Presumably I take the RCA plugs at the end of the Line Out cord (coming from the tape deck) and plug them into something else - unfortunately the Handycam lacks RCA jacks. (I do have what I think's called an A/C connecting cable, with a single jack into the Handycam at one end and three RCA plugs at the other end for connecting to a VCR). So can I use an amp or DVD player as a link between the tape deck and Handycam? Or do I bypass the Handycam altogether? I have a NAD C 340 Stereo Integrated Amplifier http://207.228.230.231/manual/NAD-C340.pdf, and a Panasonic DVD-K45 DVD/CD Player http://www.impax.com.au/dvdk45.html. Any tips appreciated! Many thanks...Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro Play the tape through a tape deck of which you have described connecting a Audio RCA male (usually two plugs red white) to mini jack ( Small headphone plug) into your PB via the LINE IN connection on the left hand side of PB being the second along this side. On the tape deck the cable will be connected to the line out side of which their should be a red white female RCA or could be labelled left right. Go to System Preferences and open sound click on line in and while tape is playing adjust the levels. As you have not suggested what software for configuring the audio I would suggest downloading wiretap (free) from Ambrosia software this will record any sound playing through any device and save to your desktop, just go through preferences to set-up specifics. But, make sure file is being saved as 48 khz 16 bit stereo aiff then import into iTunes to create CD I would suggest maybe recording different songs/sounds as different files to allow compilation simplicity. If you want editing capabilities of audio iMovie should be on PB this will allow some minor editing, otherwise their are many options ie Peak, FCPHD just depends on what you have at disposal or if it is an ongoing scenario their are trial versions available, so you can find an appropriate package? http://www.ambrosiasw.com/news/ PS: install X11 and their is a vast array of Unix/Linux audio software available also check versiontracker for Mac specific. Cheers! Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the world which makes known to us our belonging to a subject-communtiy, especially the existence in the world of the manufactured objects. Sartre.
Re: Audio cassette recording to Powerbook?
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 07:31, Steven wrote: Hoping one of the keen audio techs can give me a hint or two please? You have two challenges: * Getting the wires connected. * Getting the sound level correct. The two are related in that one type of connector implies the voltage associated with it and thus the sound level. The simplest solution is to connect your RCA Play connectors via a cable to the sound-in port on your laptop. A simple $5 converter cable, to be had from Dick Smith, Jay Car, Altronics or Tandy will do the trick. (RCA stereo to 3.5mm jack stereo). (Please note that I don't have your PowerBook handy, so I'm only guessing that Apple hasn't changed its mind and moved away from a 3.5mm stereo jack :-) Of course you'll then actually need to record the sound, but that is for others to advise you on :-) Onno Benschop Connected via WestNet because I cannot see Optus B3 where I am :-( -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
