Re: curious email
How stupid of me the picture will not go through of course. it was from Auto..Price..Finder bwxk...@mac.com. This must me a spam or best left and ditched. But how could it come through iCloud? tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au On 10/01/2013, at 5:26 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have just received an email via iCloud picture. How on earth can something come through iCloud I have not used my iPhone today so it is not from me. tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/50bc4ac5/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screen Shot 2013-01-10 at 5.24.54 PM.png Type: image/png Size: 12865 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/50bc4ac5/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anipooh1.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5485 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/50bc4ac5/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/87ea6d3b/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anipooh1.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5485 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/87ea6d3b/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: curious email
Just delete it Tom... Would need to look at the long headers to see where it actually came from. They have probably just spoofed the iCloud address. Email addresses can very easily be spoofed. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 10/01/2013, at 5:38 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: How stupid of me the picture will not go through of course. it was from Auto..Price..Finder bwxk...@mac.com. This must me a spam or best left and ditched. But how could it come through iCloud? tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au On 10/01/2013, at 5:26 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have just received an email via iCloud picture. How on earth can something come through iCloud I have not used my iPhone today so it is not from me. tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/50bc4ac5/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screen Shot 2013-01-10 at 5.24.54 PM.png Type: image/png Size: 12865 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/50bc4ac5/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anipooh1.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5485 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/50bc4ac5/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/87ea6d3b/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anipooh1.gif Type: image/gif Size: 5485 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130110/87ea6d3b/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Hi Tom, If I understand your problem correctly you received a bounce back for an email which was sent from your account to your wifes old account which no longer exists. Unfortunately there is little you can do about. It is like me sending a letter to an invalid / non-existing address and it gets returned to the return address specified on the letter. Unlike snail-mail you got the headers and the bounce back. The headers in this case may not be so useful since you looking at the bounce back. However the bounce back itself should contain the details of the system from which the original mail came form. Bouncing it in this case will not have any effect as it only goes back to the mail server which sent you a notification that it couldn't deliver your message. There are cases when the bounce option was useful. For example to deal with head-hunters or other people annoying you. To deal with real spam a good spam-filter helps. To deal with this issue gray listing can help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting Since you using iinet this will most likely not be possible to implement. If it happens only every so often just delete the message. If this happens a lot see if the messages came from the same IP address. Maybe email your findings to the list and we will see what else to suggest. Alex On 14/06/12 11:18, tom samson wrote: Okay some really worthwhile discussion but can I prevent an address being sent? tom On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery Systemmailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Hi, Tom, If you are using Apple mail, you can check the senders and message lines while they are still on the server. To do this, start Mail, then at the bottom of the sidebar click on the Gear icon. On the menu that pops up, select Get Account Info. You will get a separate floating window with the names of your accounts on the top. The mail that is waiting on the server will be listed. Scan the list for each account, and if you suspect that any of them is a spam, click in the bottom right corner where it says 'Remove From Server'. Poof, it vanishes. Theoretically, the sender gets no feedback, so you will minimize future spam, nip it in the bud. I have several email accounts with iinet, and find this very useful. You run the risk of eliminating real emails if you don't recognise the sender and the message line is vague. Cheers, Pat On 14/06/2012, at 11:18 AM, tom samson wrote: Okay some really worthwhile discussion but can I prevent an address being sent? tom On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Hi Tom, I don't suspect the email has been sent from any of your computers. You would need to look at the Long Headers in the email to see where it has been sent from. If you are not using the BigPond email Account, delete the Bigpond email account from all your computers? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
One thing I do with spam is bounce it. I think that process may cause the curious email because there mostly no response back to me. Bill On 14/06/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Tom, I don't suspect the email has been sent from any of your computers. You would need to look at the Long Headers in the email to see where it has been sent from. If you are not using the BigPond email Account, delete the Bigpond email account from all your computers? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Hi Bill, Bouncing spam is the worst thing you can do with it. Junk mailers use phoney email addresses, so bounced mail never goes back to the originator. However, the bounced mail often goes to an innocent victim. If you think spam is bad, wait until your address gets spoofed and you start receiving literally thousands of bounced emails per day. Never bounce spam. Removing this mal-feature from Mail in Lion OS X 10.7 was long overdue. --- Worth a read at the below link to understand the difference between 'Bouncing and Rejecting': http://www.dontbouncespam.org/#BVR Why you shouldn't bounce Spam and viruses: No one reports the From address on a spam as the source because they know it's forged. So why would you 'return' a spam to that same forged address? I'm all for returning spam to the sender, but to do that you have to reject, not bounce. This page is about not bouncing spam. Rejecting spam is fine. Cheers, Ronni On 14/06/2012, at 9:16 AM, Bill Parker wrote: One thing I do with spam is bounce it. I think that process may cause the curious email because there mostly no response back to me. Bill On 14/06/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Tom, I don't suspect the email has been sent from any of your computers. You would need to look at the Long Headers in the email to see where it has been sent from. If you are not using the BigPond email Account, delete the Bigpond email account from all your computers? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
I never do that Bill. If a human has triggered the bounce they know it is a legitimate email address and you're likely to get more. My spam filters in Mail app filter off spam, many per day. After a month they get automatically deleted. Mail app just does it all automatically for me. Sometimes I check in the spam folder for legit emails, but rarely find any. Responding only encourages them. Tim Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2012, at 9:16 AM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote: One thing I do with spam is bounce it. I think that process may cause the curious email because there mostly no response back to me. Bill On 14/06/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Tom, I don't suspect the email has been sent from any of your computers. You would need to look at the Long Headers in the email to see where it has been sent from. If you are not using the BigPond email Account, delete the Bigpond email account from all your computers? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Thansk. I thought that was a safe way. Bill On 14/06/2012, at 9:47 AM, Tim law wrote: I never do that Bill. If a human has triggered the bounce they know it is a legitimate email address and you're likely to get more. My spam filters in Mail app filter off spam, many per day. After a month they get automatically deleted. Mail app just does it all automatically for me. Sometimes I check in the spam folder for legit emails, but rarely find any. Responding only encourages them. Tim Sent from my iPhone On 14/06/2012, at 9:16 AM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote: One thing I do with spam is bounce it. I think that process may cause the curious email because there mostly no response back to me. Bill On 14/06/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Tom, I don't suspect the email has been sent from any of your computers. You would need to look at the Long Headers in the email to see where it has been sent from. If you are not using the BigPond email Account, delete the Bigpond email account from all your computers? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
Okay some really worthwhile discussion but can I prevent an address being sent? tom On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson wrote: First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find it in spotlight or in address book third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work. and curious no sent mails. I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails. Can this be done or is there another way ? tom On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote: Hi Tom, Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an email accidentally addressed to the old account. Regards, Carlo On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote: I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem 5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's old big pond account from about 5 years ago. It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been inactive for a long time. Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened? tom Samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Curious email
On 14/06/2012, at 11:18 AM, tom samson wrote:
Okay some really worthwhile discussion but can I prevent an address being
sent?
tom
Hi Tom,
In a previous reply to you I mentioned you would need to look at the Long
Headers in the email to see where the message actually has been sent from.
An email collects information from each of the computers it passes through on
the way to the recipient, and this is stored in the email’s 'Long Headers'.
The 'Long Headers' are best read from the bottom up, as they are added to as
the email passes through the system.
If you can see in the 'Long Headers' or ('All Headers' in Lion Mail) the IP
address for the computer that sent the email, you may be able to determine
where the message came from.
If you are completely sure that you have not 'physically' sent the email, we
would suspect that someone has 'spoofed' your email address (which is very easy
to do) and used your address in the return address in the email headers.
Spammers change an email header's from address to make it appear as though
the message originated from your email account, and which in turn causes any
bounced email alerts to go to your inbox.
In your case as your wife's email address is no longer active, your ISP has
notified you that the message failed to be delivered.
but can I prevent an address being sent?
Do you mean can you prevent an address being used to send emails?
If your email address has been 'spoofed' the answer is NO.
If you, or someone who has access to your email account has sent the email to
your wife's bigpond address the answer is YES.
As there is no record of the sent message in your Mail Account 'sent' mailbox
we have to presume you didn't send it.
Cheers,
Ronni
On 13/06/2012, at 9:28 PM, tom samson wrote:
First you are correct I have been with iinet for about five years
second there are no copies of that address on my machine and I cannot find
it in spotlight or in address book
third mail was switched off at the time because we were at work.
and curious no sent mails.
I think I need to see if little snitch can prevent any unwarranted emails.
Can this be done or is there another way ?
tom
On 13/06/2012, at 8:53 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Tom,
Just a thought. I take it you are with iiNet now, hence the iiNet mailer
daemon. You may have your wife's old address in an address book somewhere
and inadvertently sent it an email. Which email account was the
notification directed to? Have a look in the sent folder of that account
from as many machines as you use that account on and see if there is an
email accidentally addressed to the old account.
Regards,
Carlo
On 13/06/2012, at 20:48 , tom samson wrote:
I had an undeliverable email notification from: Mail Delivery System
mailer-dae...@icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au with the problem
5.1.0 Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 and the email address of my wife's
old big pond account from about 5 years ago.
It ends with suggesting that I sent this on 13 June 2012 2:12:43 PM AWST
the problem is we were at work at the time and this account has been
inactive for a long time.
Is there a problem here? and how could this have happened?
tom Samson
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