Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread wyvern

Hi Dianna,

i had a similar problem, i'm not sure if it was HP or Canon. Have you  
tried reinstalling the printer/checked you have the latest printer  
drivers?


Yvonne


On 16/03/2009, at 3:16 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be  
almost useless.


It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet  
network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM)  
and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.


It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a 60K  
Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8 minutes.  
Graham had to go to his meeting without it!


Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed  
things up but not today.


The message on the printer window keeps alternating between READY  
and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility window jumps  
quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a minute.


I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after  
5 minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it to  
Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min in  
Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the Word  
2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of  
gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!


I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer,  
is there any way I can check?


Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.

Best wishes to all from Diana

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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

Yvonne

Thanks for the suggestion, the answer is I tried deleting and 
reinstalling with no effect.


The printer is installed as Rendevous but I tried IP and Appletalk, 
both say they are printing but nothing happens and there is no 
estimate of how much of the job is done.


On Appletalk the message toggles between Starting Job, Wait and 
Processing Job.


We have used the same driver from the start and I don't see why it 
should become corrupted on both computers.


Diana



i had a similar problem, i'm not sure if it was HP or Canon. Have 
you tried reinstalling the printer/checked you have the latest 
printer drivers?


Yvonne


On 16/03/2009, at 3:16 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

 Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be 
almost useless.


 It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet 
network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM) 
and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.


 It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a 
60K Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8 minutes. 
Graham had to go to his meeting without it!


 Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed 
things up but not today.


 The message on the printer window keeps alternating between 
READY and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility 
window jumps quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a 
minute.


 I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after 
5 minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it to 
Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min in 
Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the Word 
2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of 
gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!


 I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer, 
is there any way I can check?


 Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.



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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Robert Howells


On 16/03/2009, at 5:06 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:


Yvonne

Thanks for the suggestion, the answer is I tried deleting and  
reinstalling with no effect.


The printer is installed as Rendevous but I tried IP and Appletalk,  
both say they are printing but nothing happens and there is no  
estimate of how much of the job is done.


On Appletalk the message toggles between Starting Job, Wait and  
Processing Job.


We have used the same driver from the start and I don't see why it  
should become corrupted on both computers.


Diana


Perhaps this has slowed up after an OSX update ?

Also, what changes have been made perhaps in your security ?

Is Firewall on , have suitable openings been created to allow the  
traffic to pass ?




Just some random thoughts

Bob














i had a similar problem, i'm not sure if it was HP or Canon. Have  
you tried reinstalling the printer/checked you have the latest  
printer drivers?


Yvonne


On 16/03/2009, at 3:16 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be  
almost useless.


It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet  
network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM)  
and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.


It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a  
60K Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8  
minutes. Graham had to go to his meeting without it!


Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed  
things up but not today.


The message on the printer window keeps alternating between  
READY and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility  
window jumps quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a  
minute.


I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after  
5 minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it  
to Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min  
in Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the  
Word 2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of  
gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!


I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer,  
is there any way I can check?


Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.



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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread David Moyle
Afternoon

Due to the age of the machine I would if possible complete a printer and 
JetDirect firmware upgrade. As someone else said if you've updated your 
computer you maybe using a new version of Postscript which is taking longer for 
the printer to decipher.

The HP website has a huge range of support any issues just reply back here, 
more than willing to provide assistance. I seem to have done lots of this in 
the last two months at work!!

Thanks,

- Original Message -
From: Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Monday, 16 March, 2009 3:16:14 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
Kong / Urumqi
Subject: Slow Printing Problem

Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be almost useless.

It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet 
network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM) 
and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.

It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a 60K 
Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8 minutes. 
Graham had to go to his meeting without it!

Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed 
things up but not today.

The message on the printer window keeps alternating between READY 
and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility window jumps 
quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a minute.

I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after 5 
minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it to 
Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min in 
Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the Word 
2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of 
gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!

I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer, is 
there any way I can check?

Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.

Best wishes to all from Diana

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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

Bob Howells wrote:


Perhaps this has slowed up after an OSX update ?

Also, what changes have been made perhaps in your security ?

Is Firewall on , have suitable openings been created to allow the 
traffic to pass ?


Thanks for the suggestions Bob. The Firewall is OFF. I did update to 
Tiger but did not like it and went back to Panther. I re-booted in 
Tiger and got the same result.


I am fairly sure it is a printer fault. When I try to print the whole 
document (60K / 2 Pages) it quickly does 22% then it goes to 25% and 
sticks there for a couple of minutes then gradually sends the rest. 
Same on both computers, in Panther or Tiger.


If I send one page it quickly does 42% then sticks on 52% for ages. 
Same on both computers.


When I put it in Word 5.1a the file was only 8K and both pages 
printed in 1.5 minutes.


I shall ring the serviceman!

Thanks again to Yvonee  Bob.

Diana



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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Diana Graham Stevens
I don't think updates are the problem. There have been no Panther 
upgrades for ages. I had a flirtation with Tiger for a few weeks but 
Graham has always used Panther and we have not had any new software.


How do I know what version of Postscript I am using?

I am a bit nervous about firmware upgrades. I did not set the printer 
up originally, the guy I bought from did it and he is not the type to 
explain what he did so I could do it again!


Any advice would be greatly appreciated, in words of few syllables 
suitable for the elderly, please.


Thanks for your help

Diana

David Moyle wrote:


Due to the age of the machine I would if possible complete a printer 
and JetDirect firmware upgrade. As someone else said if you've 
updated your computer you maybe using a new version of Postscript 
which is taking longer for the printer to decipher.


The HP website has a huge range of support any issues just reply 
back here, more than willing to provide assistance. I seem to have 
done lots of this in the last two months at work!!


Thanks,

- Original Message -
From: Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Monday, 16 March, 2009 3:16:14 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / 
Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi

Subject: Slow Printing Problem

Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be almost useless.

It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet
network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM)
and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.

It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a 60K
Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8 minutes.
Graham had to go to his meeting without it!

Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed
things up but not today.

The message on the printer window keeps alternating between READY
and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility window jumps
quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a minute.

I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after 5
minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it to
Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min in
Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the Word
2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of
gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!

I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer, is
there any way I can check?

Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.

Best wishes to all from Diana


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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Eugene

Hi Diana,

we use many 8150s with both 10.4 and 10.5 OS over ethernet. We have  
not experienced any slow down in printing.


Looking on the HP site however there are several pages that talk about  
slowdowns with the HPs in Mac environments. But not necessarily with  
the 8150. Here are a few I found.


http://search.hp.com/query.html?cc=uslang=ensearch=++qt=slow+printing+8150+macintoshla=en 
= search page


Found pages
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01637954cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN 

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00108051cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN 

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01578154cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN 

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01414988cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN 

http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=encc=usobjectID=c00108051jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN 




  Regards,
  Eugene


On 16/03/2009, at 6:41 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

I don't think updates are the problem. There have been no Panther  
upgrades for ages. I had a flirtation with Tiger for a few weeks but  
Graham has always used Panther and we have not had any new software.


How do I know what version of Postscript I am using?

I am a bit nervous about firmware upgrades. I did not set the  
printer up originally, the guy I bought from did it and he is not  
the type to explain what he did so I could do it again!


Any advice would be greatly appreciated, in words of few syllables  
suitable for the elderly, please.


Thanks for your help

Diana

David Moyle wrote:


Due to the age of the machine I would if possible complete a  
printer and JetDirect firmware upgrade. As someone else said if  
you've updated your computer you maybe using a new version of  
Postscript which is taking longer for the printer to decipher.


The HP website has a huge range of support any issues just reply  
back here, more than willing to provide assistance. I seem to have  
done lots of this in the last two months at work!!


Thanks,

- Original Message -
From: Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Monday, 16 March, 2009 3:16:14 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing /  
Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi

Subject: Slow Printing Problem

Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be  
almost useless.


It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet
network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM)
and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.

It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a 60K
Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8 minutes.
Graham had to go to his meeting without it!

Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed
things up but not today.

The message on the printer window keeps alternating between READY
and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility window jumps
quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a minute.

I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after 5
minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it to
Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min in
Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the Word
2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of
gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!

I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer, is
there any way I can check?

Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.

Best wishes to all from Diana


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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Wendy S. Austin

Hi Diane

One question on your printer problem, have you changed the paper  
thickness option recently?I had to print something out  on to very  
thick paper and changed the option on my Brother laser printer to  
reflect that and I then forgot to change it back to normal paper.  
The printer ran very slowly which made me realise something was wrong  
and once I changed it back it ran at its usual speed.


Wendy

On 16/03/2009, at 11:16 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be  
almost useless.



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Re: Slow Printing Problem

2009-03-16 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

Eugene wrote:
we use many 8150s with both 10.4 and 10.5 OS over ethernet. We have 
not experienced any slow down in printing.


Looking on the HP site however there are several pages that talk 
about slowdowns with the HPs in Mac environments. But not 
necessarily with the 8150. Here are a few I found.


http://search.hp.com/query.html?cc=uslang=ensearch=++qt=slow+printing+8150+macintoshla=en 
= search page


Found pages
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01637954cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00108051cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01578154cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01414988cc=usdlc=enlc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=encc=usobjectID=c00108051jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN


Hi Eugene  Wendy

I have worked through all the suggestions and none of them helped.

I downloaded the driver and reinstalled. The date on the files 
changed from 23 Aug 2003 to 14 Nov 2008 but no improvement in speed.


There was no firmware update that I could find.

I have checked the paper setting as suggested by Wendy, it is on Plain.

I did manage to increase the speed by selecting 300 dpi, it printed 
the first page at 76% spooled in ca 7.5 minutes, then at 12 minutes 
it got stuck on 99% and stayed there until at 18 minutes I got the 
message no document printing. It was correct the second page never 
appeared.


This made me wonder whether there was something wrong with the cable 
so I used the Ethernet cable from the iMac for the printer and it 
printed in high definition in 2.5 min, not great but workable!


I should remember the advice first make sure that it is plugged in 
and turned on!


Thanks to all who helped and best wishes from Diana



On 16/03/2009, at 6:41 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

 I don't think updates are the problem. There have been no Panther 
upgrades for ages. I had a flirtation with Tiger for a few weeks 
but Graham has always used Panther and we have not had any new 
software.


 How do I know what version of Postscript I am using?

 I am a bit nervous about firmware upgrades. I did not set the 
printer up originally, the guy I bought from did it and he is not 
the type to explain what he did so I could do it again!


 Any advice would be greatly appreciated, in words of few syllables 
suitable for the elderly, please.


 Thanks for your help

 Diana

 David Moyle wrote:


 Due to the age of the machine I would if possible complete a 
printer and JetDirect firmware upgrade. As someone else said if 
you've updated your computer you maybe using a new version of 
Postscript which is taking longer for the printer to decipher.


 The HP website has a huge range of support any issues just reply 
back here, more than willing to provide assistance. I seem to have 
done lots of this in the last two months at work!!


 Thanks,

 - Original Message -
 From: Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Sent: Monday, 16 March, 2009 3:16:14 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / 
Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi

 Subject: Slow Printing Problem

 Our printer which used to be very fast is now so slow as to be 
almost useless.


 It is an HP LaserJet 8150 series. It is connected to an Ethernet
 network and serves a PowerMac G5 (1.8 Ghz Dual Processor 4 GB RAM)
 and an iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz 1GB RAM) both running Panther.

 It has just taken more than 10 minutes to print one page from a 60K
 Word 2004 document on the iMac, the second page took 8 minutes.
 Graham had to go to his meeting without it!

 Sometimes rebooting the computer, printer  and router helps speed
 things up but not today.

 The message on the printer window keeps alternating between READY
 and DATA RECEIVED. The message in the Print Utility window jumps
 quickly to 22% spooled then increases about 2-3% a minute.

 I transferred the file to my computer and tried printing it, after 5
 minutes it had spooled 36% of the first page. I transferred it to
 Word 5.1a (file now 8K) and printed both pages in about 1.5 min in
 Classic, which is usually slower than OS X. I then opened the Word
 2004 file in Word 5.1a and there is an enormous amount of
 gobbledygook, I screen of text plus 19 screens of rubbish!

 I wonder if there is something wrong with the RAM in the printer, is
 there any way I can check?

 Can anyone offer any suggestions apart from call the serviceman.

 Best wishes to all from Diana


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