Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade
Hi Alan, My comments in situ below. On 02/08/2012, at 6:39 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hello all I have upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and was about to switch Time Machine back on. But Time Machine in System Preferences shows oldest backup = none and latest backup = none. WAMUG discussion on the Lion upgrade stated that T.M. backups would just continue to accumulate as normal. Does this hold true with Mountain Lion? I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion but I'm fairly sure it is the same from SL to ML. Time Machine indicates that oldest backup latest back is none' until after it completes the first full backup. If I remember correctly it took some moments after the first backup before it changed to oldest backup date and latest backup. The last step in Ronni's tutorial is to let Time Machine complete a full backup. Does this mean it will not be a normal incremental backup, but a new backupdb? It takes longer as it gives the impression of a full backup as it is a new operating system (upgrade) and needs to check all files and changes to the system, but it will carry on from your previous backup. A simulated Restore from Time Machine in Mountain Lion seems to show the history of Snow Leopard backups, so the data is presumably still accessible. Don't touch it; just let Time Machine do its job. Don't interrupt the first backup, let it complete the backup. I quit all applications an just let TM do its first backup. Cheers, Ronni (The 4 GB OS X download was fine - but then another 3 GB of App upgrades was too much!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade
Hi Alan, I forgot to mention that as soon as Mountain Lion starts up the first time, Spotlight begins indexing (or re-indexing) all the files on all mounted volumes. This process can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours, depending on how many files you have and the speed of your CPU and disk. During this time, you may notice a lot of disk activity (along with, perhaps, somewhat slower overall performance). If you click Spotlight’s magnifying glass icon on the right side of your menu bar during indexing, a drop-down list displays an estimate of the time remaining for each volume. Cheers, Ronni On 02/08/2012, at 7:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, My comments in situ below. On 02/08/2012, at 6:39 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hello all I have upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and was about to switch Time Machine back on. But Time Machine in System Preferences shows oldest backup = none and latest backup = none. WAMUG discussion on the Lion upgrade stated that T.M. backups would just continue to accumulate as normal. Does this hold true with Mountain Lion? I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion but I'm fairly sure it is the same from SL to ML. Time Machine indicates that oldest backup latest back is none' until after it completes the first full backup. If I remember correctly it took some moments after the first backup before it changed to oldest backup date and latest backup. The last step in Ronni's tutorial is to let Time Machine complete a full backup. Does this mean it will not be a normal incremental backup, but a new backupdb? It takes longer as it gives the impression of a full backup as it is a new operating system (upgrade) and needs to check all files and changes to the system, but it will carry on from your previous backup. A simulated Restore from Time Machine in Mountain Lion seems to show the history of Snow Leopard backups, so the data is presumably still accessible. Don't touch it; just let Time Machine do its job. Don't interrupt the first backup, let it complete the backup. I quit all applications an just let TM do its first backup. Cheers, Ronni (The 4 GB OS X download was fine - but then another 3 GB of App upgrades was too much!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade
Hi Ronni Thanks for the reassurance. I will turn T.M. on after doing some neglected domestic chores. Thanks also for your Spotlight comment - email arrived as I was writing this! Its been a full day exercise to get to this point, so a night of Spotlight indexing will be a bagatelle. Cheers Alan On 02/08/2012, at 7:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, My comments in situ below. On 02/08/2012, at 6:39 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hello all I have upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and was about to switch Time Machine back on. But Time Machine in System Preferences shows oldest backup = none and latest backup = none. WAMUG discussion on the Lion upgrade stated that T.M. backups would just continue to accumulate as normal. Does this hold true with Mountain Lion? I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion but I'm fairly sure it is the same from SL to ML. Time Machine indicates that oldest backup latest back is none' until after it completes the first full backup. If I remember correctly it took some moments after the first backup before it changed to oldest backup date and latest backup. The last step in Ronni's tutorial is to let Time Machine complete a full backup. Does this mean it will not be a normal incremental backup, but a new backupdb? It takes longer as it gives the impression of a full backup as it is a new operating system (upgrade) and needs to check all files and changes to the system, but it will carry on from your previous backup. A simulated Restore from Time Machine in Mountain Lion seems to show the history of Snow Leopard backups, so the data is presumably still accessible. Don't touch it; just let Time Machine do its job. Don't interrupt the first backup, let it complete the backup. I quit all applications an just let TM do its first backup. Cheers, Ronni (The 4 GB OS X download was fine - but then another 3 GB of App upgrades was too much!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade
Hi Alan, If you can't get used to the new scrolling direction in Mountain Lion, you can revert to the old style. 1) Click the Apple at top left of screen and select System Preferences... 2) Select the Trackpad icon in the Hardware row. 3) Click the Scroll Zoom tab at the top of the Trackpad dialog. 4) Uncheck Scroll direction: natural Scroll direction will now return the style used in Snow Leopard. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au On 02/08/2012, at 21:30 , Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Just to close off this thread - - - All is OK. Time Machine worked as you said and now shows oldest and newest backups appropriately. This happened right at the end of the T.M. backup sequence. BTW, I never noticed Spotlight working, but it seems to locate things nicely. Must have been quick. Love the preview in Spotlight - don't like the upside down scrolling in mail and other apps! Thanks for your help. Cheers Alan Begin forwarded message: From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade Date: 2 August 2012 7:42:23 PM AWST To: wamug@wamug.org.au Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au Hi Ronni Thanks for the reassurance. I will turn T.M. on after doing some neglected domestic chores. Thanks also for your Spotlight comment - email arrived as I was writing this! Its been a full day exercise to get to this point, so a night of Spotlight indexing will be a bagatelle. Cheers Alan On 02/08/2012, at 7:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, My comments in situ below. On 02/08/2012, at 6:39 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hello all I have upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and was about to switch Time Machine back on. But Time Machine in System Preferences shows oldest backup = none and latest backup = none. WAMUG discussion on the Lion upgrade stated that T.M. backups would just continue to accumulate as normal. Does this hold true with Mountain Lion? I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion but I'm fairly sure it is the same from SL to ML. Time Machine indicates that oldest backup latest back is none' until after it completes the first full backup. If I remember correctly it took some moments after the first backup before it changed to oldest backup date and latest backup. The last step in Ronni's tutorial is to let Time Machine complete a full backup. Does this mean it will not be a normal incremental backup, but a new backupdb? It takes longer as it gives the impression of a full backup as it is a new operating system (upgrade) and needs to check all files and changes to the system, but it will carry on from your previous backup. A simulated Restore from Time Machine in Mountain Lion seems to show the history of Snow Leopard backups, so the data is presumably still accessible. Don't touch it; just let Time Machine do its job. Don't interrupt the first backup, let it complete the backup. I quit all applications an just let TM do its first backup. Cheers, Ronni (The 4 GB OS X download was fine - but then another 3 GB of App upgrades was too much!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade
You can also do the same from the Mouse icon as well. Though the steps would be :- 1) Click the Apple at top left of screen and select System Preferences... 2) Select the Mouse icon in the Hardware row. 3) Uncheck Scroll direction: natural One less step ;) Sorry, couldn't resist,lol. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 02/08/2012, at 10:10 PM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Alan, If you can't get used to the new scrolling direction in Mountain Lion, you can revert to the old style. 1) Click the Apple at top left of screen and select System Preferences... 2) Select the Trackpad icon in the Hardware row. 3) Click the Scroll Zoom tab at the top of the Trackpad dialog. 4) Uncheck Scroll direction: natural Scroll direction will now return the style used in Snow Leopard. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au On 02/08/2012, at 21:30 , Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Just to close off this thread - - - All is OK. Time Machine worked as you said and now shows oldest and newest backups appropriately. This happened right at the end of the T.M. backup sequence. BTW, I never noticed Spotlight working, but it seems to locate things nicely. Must have been quick. Love the preview in Spotlight - don't like the upside down scrolling in mail and other apps! Thanks for your help. Cheers Alan Begin forwarded message: From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade Date: 2 August 2012 7:42:23 PM AWST To: wamug@wamug.org.au Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au Hi Ronni Thanks for the reassurance. I will turn T.M. on after doing some neglected domestic chores. Thanks also for your Spotlight comment - email arrived as I was writing this! Its been a full day exercise to get to this point, so a night of Spotlight indexing will be a bagatelle. Cheers Alan On 02/08/2012, at 7:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, My comments in situ below. On 02/08/2012, at 6:39 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hello all I have upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and was about to switch Time Machine back on. But Time Machine in System Preferences shows oldest backup = none and latest backup = none. WAMUG discussion on the Lion upgrade stated that T.M. backups would just continue to accumulate as normal. Does this hold true with Mountain Lion? I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion but I'm fairly sure it is the same from SL to ML. Time Machine indicates that oldest backup latest back is none' until after it completes the first full backup. If I remember correctly it took some moments after the first backup before it changed to oldest backup date and latest backup. The last step in Ronni's tutorial is to let Time Machine complete a full backup. Does this mean it will not be a normal incremental backup, but a new backupdb? It takes longer as it gives the impression of a full backup as it is a new operating system (upgrade) and needs to check all files and changes to the system, but it will carry on from your previous backup. A simulated Restore from Time Machine in Mountain Lion seems to show the history of Snow Leopard backups, so the data is presumably still accessible. Don't touch it; just let Time Machine do its job. Don't interrupt the first backup, let it complete the backup. I quit all applications an just let TM do its first backup. Cheers, Ronni (The 4 GB OS X download was fine - but then another 3 GB of App upgrades was too much!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au
Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade
Yes. Well pointed out Daniel. If you have no trackpad attached the Trackpad preferences will not open and one must make the change from the Mouse preferences item. On the other hand if you have a MacBook with no mouse, the mouse preferences will not open and one must make the change from the Trackpad preferences item. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au On 02/08/2012, at 23:13 , Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: You can also do the same from the Mouse icon as well. Though the steps would be :- 1) Click the Apple at top left of screen and select System Preferences... 2) Select the Mouse icon in the Hardware row. 3) Uncheck Scroll direction: natural One less step ;) Sorry, couldn't resist,lol. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 02/08/2012, at 10:10 PM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Alan, If you can't get used to the new scrolling direction in Mountain Lion, you can revert to the old style. 1) Click the Apple at top left of screen and select System Preferences... 2) Select the Trackpad icon in the Hardware row. 3) Click the Scroll Zoom tab at the top of the Trackpad dialog. 4) Uncheck Scroll direction: natural Scroll direction will now return the style used in Snow Leopard. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au On 02/08/2012, at 21:30 , Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Just to close off this thread - - - All is OK. Time Machine worked as you said and now shows oldest and newest backups appropriately. This happened right at the end of the T.M. backup sequence. BTW, I never noticed Spotlight working, but it seems to locate things nicely. Must have been quick. Love the preview in Spotlight - don't like the upside down scrolling in mail and other apps! Thanks for your help. Cheers Alan Begin forwarded message: From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: Time Machine after Mountain Lion upgrade Date: 2 August 2012 7:42:23 PM AWST To: wamug@wamug.org.au Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au Hi Ronni Thanks for the reassurance. I will turn T.M. on after doing some neglected domestic chores. Thanks also for your Spotlight comment - email arrived as I was writing this! Its been a full day exercise to get to this point, so a night of Spotlight indexing will be a bagatelle. Cheers Alan On 02/08/2012, at 7:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, My comments in situ below. On 02/08/2012, at 6:39 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hello all I have upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and was about to switch Time Machine back on. But Time Machine in System Preferences shows oldest backup = none and latest backup = none. WAMUG discussion on the Lion upgrade stated that T.M. backups would just continue to accumulate as normal. Does this hold true with Mountain Lion? I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion but I'm fairly sure it is the same from SL to ML. Time Machine indicates that oldest backup latest back is none' until after it completes the first full backup. If I remember correctly it took some moments after the first backup before it changed to oldest backup date and latest backup. The last step in Ronni's tutorial is to let Time Machine complete a full backup. Does this mean it will not be a normal incremental backup, but a new backupdb? It takes longer as it gives the impression of a full backup as it is a new operating system (upgrade) and needs to check all files and changes to the system, but it will carry on from your previous backup. A simulated Restore from Time Machine in Mountain Lion seems to show the history of Snow Leopard backups, so the data is presumably still accessible. Don't touch it; just let Time Machine do its job. Don't interrupt the first backup, let it complete the backup. I quit all applications an just let TM do its first backup. Cheers, Ronni (The 4 GB OS X download was fine - but then another 3 GB of App upgrades was too much!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe
