[wdvltalk] Re: Image caching problem

2003-01-15 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\) 
both seemed about the same to me.
I'm connected through a DSL line, using MSIE 6 and Netscp 7.1
Both seemed to load fast except for 1 image the first time, and about
half that time on refresh.

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- Original Message -
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Subject: [wdvltalk] Image caching problem


Can anyone tell me why images would load faster when the user is
browsing with Netscape rather than Internet Explorer 6.0?

It appears that Internet Explorer is not caching the images.

Try this page in both Netscape and Internet Explorer:
http://www.huntwood.com/kitchen2.asp?image=beaucrwnlgk#

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[wdvltalk] Re: A bit OT, about changing domains

2003-01-15 Thread Cheryl D. Wise 
That's exactly what I have done in similar circumstances in the past. Either
that or put up one of those "This site has moved to www.somewhere_else.com
please update your bookmarks. If you are not redirected in 10 seconds please
click the link above."

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-Original Message-
From: puterbug.com 

At 07:45 PM 1/15/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>So, I was wondering, has anyone seen any research on how people 
>generally arrive at sites these days, ie is it mostly via links, via 
>search engines, or by typing the URL into their browser?


You could register the new domain and point it at the old domain leaving it
as the original site.

Deb



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[wdvltalk] Re: A bit OT, about changing domains

2003-01-15 Thread puterbug.com 
At 07:45 PM 1/15/2003 -0800, you wrote:

So, I was wondering, has anyone seen any research on how people generally
arrive at sites these days, ie is it mostly via links, via search engines,
or by typing the URL into their browser?



You could register the new domain and point it at the old domain
leaving it as the original site.

Deb




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[wdvltalk] A bit OT, about changing domains

2003-01-15 Thread jennifer 
Hi all,

A client of mine chose a particularly long and unwieldy domain name a
couple of years ago, and is now asking about the feasibility of changing
to something easier/faster to type. I can see the advantages: fewer
spelling errors/typos so fewer 404s, easier to remember and better impact
on promotional material. BUT they'll temporarily lose all those users
who've bookmarked the site, and those who are referring to old brochures
etc, and I'll also have to contact all the sites that link to them at
present and ask them to change the link.

So, I was wondering, has anyone seen any research on how people generally
arrive at sites these days, ie is it mostly via links, via search engines,
or by typing the URL into their browser?

TIA, Jen

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[wdvltalk] Image caching problem

2003-01-15 Thread Carl Stearns 
Can anyone tell me why images would load faster when the user is
browsing with Netscape rather than Internet Explorer 6.0?

It appears that Internet Explorer is not caching the images.

Try this page in both Netscape and Internet Explorer:
http://www.huntwood.com/kitchen2.asp?image=beaucrwnlgk#

This page use swap images and preloads the images onload with
javascript.

Carl Stearns
Civic Mind Media, Inc.
www.civicmindmedia.com
208-772-9898    

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[wdvltalk] Re: the joy of text [was Re: NN7.0 line spacing]

2003-01-15 Thread Joseph Harris 
Franni wrote:
'Quite some client' indeed, Joseph - They have their moments...
If you've a WHSmith newsagent near you, you may even see the Book Awards
point-of-sale material on this one!

Joseph writes:
INdeed we have a fairly large branch in Enfield shopping centre and I will
look next time I am that way.   It is good to read that not all clients are
difficult to work with. And nice to know they acknowledge the work you
have put in.   (for other reasons I am not a WHS fan, sicne the whole
organisation is very monopolist.   But I do favour anything that helps
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[wdvltalk] Re: the joy of text [was Re: NN7.0 line spacing]

2003-01-15 Thread sherry young 
Franni,
Congratulations. Good work.
In awe,
Sherry

Franni Vincent wrote:

> 'Quite some client' indeed, Joseph - They have their moments...
> If you've a WHSmith newsagent near you, you may even see the Book Awards
> point-of-sale material on this one!


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[wdvltalk] RE: how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Dave Sebaste 
It's generally not recommended, as you will have DLLs trouncing all over
each other, with a strong possibility of mismatched DLLs. If you *must* do
it, it is suggested you start with the earliest version, installing
subsequent versions into different directories (folders).  While many of the
"core" features will work, don't be surprised if you run into problems with
some of the more ancillary features. This guidance applies to all MS Office
applications, and most applications, in general.

The setup wizards have a rule that they will not install an older version of
a file (i.e., DLL)over a newer version... that's why you will likely have
trouble if you start with a later version of the application and try to
install an earlier version concurrently.

All the best,

Dave

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[wdvltalk] RE: how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Hoenig, Robert 
You don't have to uninstall what you currently have to get Access 97 and
2000.  Not sure about Access 2 though.  Here is the TechNet article to get
Access 97 installed with Access 2000 currently on the machine

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B241141

Hope that helps
Robert


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[wdvltalk] RE: how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Diane Schips 
Interesting.  At work I have all three installed on an XP Prof machine,
without a problem.  BUT Access 2 was installed first, then Access 97 then
Access 2000.  I was hoping I didn't have to uninstall what I already have on
my machine at home before installing the others.

Diane

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You are probably going to need different PCs. You may not be able to run
Access 2 on current machines since if I recall correctly it is a Windows 3.1
program. Office 95 shipped with Access 95 not Access 2.

You should be able to install Access 97 on the same computer as 2000 but it
isn't recommended. You will have to uninstall Office 2000. Install Access 97
in a separate directory (not Program Files/MS Office). Then reinstall Office
2000 in order to have a prayer of it working because dll installed in the OS
system file may conflict.

My partner was working at a major company last year where he used
Office/Access 97 on NT 4, Windows 2000 with Office/Access 2000 and XP Pro
with Office/Access 2002. That was the only way their networks support people
would allow multiple versions of Access by one user - 3 separate machines.

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-Original Message-
From: Diane Schips

I have Office 2000 installed on my machine, including Access.  I need to
install Access 97 and Access 2.  No, I haven't lost my head; I need them for
my job.  Can I do this without first uninstalling Office 2000? Thanks, Diane



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[wdvltalk] Re: how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\) 
Try posting your question on Woody's Office Watch Lounge message boards

http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/wwwthreads.pl

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I have Office 2000 installed on my machine, including Access.  I need to
install Access 97 and Access 2.  No, I haven't lost my head; I need them
for
my job.  Can I do this without first uninstalling Office 2000?
Thanks,
Diane


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[wdvltalk] RE: how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Cheryl D. Wise 
You are probably going to need different PCs. You may not be able to run
Access 2 on current machines since if I recall correctly it is a Windows 3.1
program. Office 95 shipped with Access 95 not Access 2.

You should be able to install Access 97 on the same computer as 2000 but it
isn't recommended. You will have to uninstall Office 2000. Install Access 97
in a separate directory (not Program Files/MS Office). Then reinstall Office
2000 in order to have a prayer of it working because dll installed in the OS
system file may conflict.

My partner was working at a major company last year where he used
Office/Access 97 on NT 4, Windows 2000 with Office/Access 2000 and XP Pro
with Office/Access 2002. That was the only way their networks support people
would allow multiple versions of Access by one user - 3 separate machines.

Cheryl D. Wise
WiserWays
Office: 713.353.0139
Mobile: 713.412.0406
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-Original Message-
From: Diane Schips 

I have Office 2000 installed on my machine, including Access.  I need to
install Access 97 and Access 2.  No, I haven't lost my head; I need them for
my job.  Can I do this without first uninstalling Office 2000? Thanks, Diane



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[wdvltalk] RE: how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Heather Laidlaw 
I've done it before, but I'm trying to remember if I moved the Access before
or after I upgraded to 2000.  I think you can do it either way, just make
sure that when you are installing you make a completely different folder for
the new Access. It will try to install it over the current version of Access
which you don't want.


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I have Office 2000 installed on my machine, including Access.  I need to
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my job.  Can I do this without first uninstalling Office 2000? Thanks, Diane


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[wdvltalk] how to install previous versions of Access

2003-01-15 Thread Diane Schips 
I have Office 2000 installed on my machine, including Access.  I need to
install Access 97 and Access 2.  No, I haven't lost my head; I need them for
my job.  Can I do this without first uninstalling Office 2000?
Thanks,
Diane


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[wdvltalk] Re: NN7.0 line spacing

2003-01-15 Thread Jan Major 
Hi guys,

Yes, I've seen code written like this:


	HREF="//slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=172">
	SRC="//images.slashdot.org/topics/topicsecurity.gif"
	WIDTH="59" HEIGHT="78" BORDER="0"
	ALIGN="RIGHT" HSPACE="20" VSPACE="10"
	ALT="Security"
	TITLE="Security">Posted by
	http://www.monkey.org/~timothy/";>timothy
	on Tuesday January 14, @04:30PM

I'll do it this way, thanks guys for the info.  You're sure
you all weren't pulling my leg right with the ! 
This way sounds much more logical.

;o)

Jan
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[wdvltalk] RE: php and forms

2003-01-15 Thread Mignon Hunter 
I will try and get a screen shot up either today or tomorrow.  The
application and db are behind the firewall.

But, unfortunately, I have to use checkboxes.  The data displayed can
have 1-6 individual items within anywhere from 1 -12 tables.  Each
individual item needs the 3 choices - high, med, low.  And more than one
item in the table can have the same level, hence, the need for
checkboxes. 

What I'll probably need to do is develop the app so that the level is
mandatory if they choose an item.  This will probably be my only means
of pairing the item with the level of severity.

That's my thinking at this stage.

Thx for the input




On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 03:18, Jon Haworth wrote:
> Hi Mignon,
> 
> > So as you can see my second problem does not correctly correspond 
> > to the correct priority.  The first (or all) element(s) in the 
> > level array may be null.
> 
> I noticed that you're supplying checkboxes for the user to select a priority
> level - I think you might be able to sidestep this problem completely if you
> use radio buttons instead.  Excuse the ASCII art, but if you've currently
> got this:
> 
>   Priority:   [ ] High[ ] Low
> 
> You might consider changing it to:
> 
>   Priority:   ( ) High( ) Low (x) n/a
> 
> (notice how the "not applicable" radio button is selected by default - this
> way, you'll always have information for this particular priority, even if
> it's "ignore this information")
> 
> As a rule of thumb, checkboxes are for groups of options that can be used in
> conjunction with each other:
> 
>   Select the pets you own:[ ]  Cat
>   [ ]  Dog
>   [ ]  Budgie
>   [ ]  Wildebeest
> 
> ... and radio buttons are for groups of options where only one at a time
> makes sense:
> 
>   Are you:  ( ) Female
> ( ) Male
> ( ) Unsure
> 
> 
> If you've got a URL to the page in question (and if I have a coffee) I can
> probably explain myself better :-)
> 
> Cheers
> Jon
> 
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[wdvltalk] Re: Choosing a Certificate Authority

2003-01-15 Thread Furry, Tim 
Olya wrote:
Our webhost offers a choice between OpenSRC, Entrust, VeriSign, and
Thawte. [...] If anybody on the list have suggestions on which CA to go
with, they will be greatly appreciated!

Ali replied:
I don't know anything about OpenSRC. Entrust I haven't heard anything
bad about. I've used Thawte a couple times, and VeriSign owns Thawte. If
you go to Thawte.com and click on "Thawte 2000" on the footer, it will
tell you so in it's copyright info. Additionally, I've found Thawte
Certs pretty put in.

Tim:
I was unaware that VeriSign owns Thawte, but it doesn't surprise me.
The biggest difference we ran into between VeriSign and Thawte was that
VeriSign was quite a bit more expensive, but had a larger name
recognition.  I hadn't heard of the other two, either.

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[wdvltalk] the joy of text [was Re: NN7.0 line spacing]

2003-01-15 Thread Franni Vincent 
'Quite some client' indeed, Joseph - They have their moments...
If you've a WHSmith newsagent near you, you may even see the Book Awards
point-of-sale material on this one!
They've been really good in the press release about acknowledging the part
we've played - and they were absolutely over the moon that we went live on
deadline at 00.01am... And compared to the World Cup prediction project we
ran in the summer, this client has indeed been a joy to work with.

I'm really sorry I couldn't ask you guys to 'field trial' the online voting
on this one but the client was understandably paranoid about the Book
Awards short list getting out ahead of the press launch...  it was someone
else's questions here on WDVL about  pop-up windows that gave a pointer to
the solution to the 'how do you get all that damn info on the screen'
problem.

This is the first time WHSmith has had text voting on the Book awards
[which is what we bid for originally as mobile apps is what we do] & wound
up running the online side too. It's also the first project  with a major
corporate sponsor for our Textaid joint venture which is my 'baby' so I'm
really pleased it's gone well.
Some sleep would be good... but that can wait!


:-)

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>Franni,
>
>I'm impressed.   Quite some client.
>
>Joseph
>
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>From: Franni Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:18 PM
>Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: NN7.0 line spacing
>
>
>> >Rudy wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > ...use arrow keys to get to that line, use Home key to move
>> >
>> > > cursor to front of the line, press Shift key and down arrow...
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Perry
>> >
>> >How cool. I use the keyboard frequently, to avoid reaching for the mouse.
>I
>> >didn't know the Shift and down arrow trick to highlight an entire line
>> >though. Thanks Rudy.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Another useful one - Shift held down & a left or right  arrow will
>> highlight either way from a point on your text line. I've been doing a lot
>> of that today...
>> Sitting here with my mTank hat on this evening doing the countdown to a
>> web/sms application going live at 00.01am ... which gives the client only
>> another hour & forty five minutes to make the final, final, 'finalest'
>text
>> amendments... it's at:
>> http://www.whsmithbookawards.co.uk/
>>
>>
>> :-)
>>
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[wdvltalk] Re: javascript and php/html forms

2003-01-15 Thread Mignon Hunter 
Sure.  Go to:
http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php

I joined the php-db but there are others.




On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 07:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mignon,
> 
> I've been looking for a PHP list to join. Would you mind sharing
> information about joining the php-db list you are using?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Maureen
> 
> > Hi David and thanks for the assistance.  This didnt work for me though.=20
> > But, fyi, I was able to get it to work by echoing the js within my
> > php-if-submit area as such:
> > 
> >  > include ('dbconn.php');
> > if(isset($submit))
> >  {  =20
> > $query =3D "INSERT INTO `comments` (  `track_id`, `cat_comments` ) VALUES
> > ( '0', '$comm' );";
> > mysql_query ($query, $link );   =09
> > echo " > language=3D\"JavaScript\">window.close(); > html>"; =09
> >  } =20
> > ?>
> > **
> >   This was suggested to me by someone on the php-db list.
> > 
> > Thanks again for the help
> > 
> > Mignon
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:33, David Blakey wrote:
> > >=20
> > > >I'm trying
> > > >
> > > > > > >onClick=3D"window.close();">
> > >=20
> > > Try
> > >=20
> > >  > > onClick=3D"window.close();return true;">
> > >=20
> > > Regards,
> > > David
> > >=20
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[wdvltalk] Re: javascript and php/html forms

2003-01-15 Thread Ben Joyce 
http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php

watch out; php-general is quite busy at times!

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> 
> 
> Mignon,
> 
> I've been looking for a PHP list to join. Would you mind 
> sharing information about joining the php-db list you are using?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Maureen
> 
> > Hi David and thanks for the assistance.  This didnt work for me 
> > though.=20 But, fyi, I was able to get it to work by echoing the js 
> > within my php-if-submit area as such:
> > 
> >  > include ('dbconn.php');
> > if(isset($submit))
> >  {  =20
> > $query =3D "INSERT INTO `comments` (  `track_id`, 
> `cat_comments` ) 
> > VALUES ( '0', '$comm' );";
> > mysql_query ($query, $link );   =09
> > echo " > 
> language=3D\"JavaScript\">window.close();
> >  > html>"; =09
> >  } =20
> > ?>
> > **
> >   This was suggested to me by someone on the php-db list.
> > 
> > Thanks again for the help
> > 
> > Mignon
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:33, David Blakey wrote:
> > >=20
> > > >I'm trying
> > > >
> > > > > > >onClick=3D"window.close();">
> > >=20
> > > Try
> > >=20
> > >  > >onClick=3D"window.close();return true;"> =20
> > > Regards,
> > > David
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[wdvltalk] Re: javascript and php/html forms

2003-01-15 Thread mconlon 
Mignon,

I've been looking for a PHP list to join. Would you mind sharing
information about joining the php-db list you are using?

Thanks in advance, Maureen

> Hi David and thanks for the assistance.  This didnt work for me though.=20
> But, fyi, I was able to get it to work by echoing the js within my
> php-if-submit area as such:
> 
>  include ('dbconn.php');
> if(isset($submit))
>{  =20
>   $query =3D "INSERT INTO `comments` (  `track_id`, `cat_comments` ) VALUES
> ( '0', '$comm' );";
>   mysql_query ($query, $link );   =09
>   echo " language=3D\"JavaScript\">window.close(); html>";   =09
>} =20
> ?>
> **
>   This was suggested to me by someone on the php-db list.
> 
> Thanks again for the help
> 
> Mignon
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:33, David Blakey wrote:
> >=20
> > >I'm trying
> > >
> > > > >onClick=3D"window.close();">
> >=20
> > Try
> >=20
> >  > onClick=3D"window.close();return true;">
> >=20
> > Regards,
> > David
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[wdvltalk] RE: php and forms

2003-01-15 Thread Jon Haworth 
Hi Mignon,

> So as you can see my second problem does not correctly correspond 
> to the correct priority.  The first (or all) element(s) in the 
> level array may be null.

I noticed that you're supplying checkboxes for the user to select a priority
level - I think you might be able to sidestep this problem completely if you
use radio buttons instead.  Excuse the ASCII art, but if you've currently
got this:

  Priority:   [ ] High[ ] Low

You might consider changing it to:

  Priority:   ( ) High( ) Low (x) n/a

(notice how the "not applicable" radio button is selected by default - this
way, you'll always have information for this particular priority, even if
it's "ignore this information")

As a rule of thumb, checkboxes are for groups of options that can be used in
conjunction with each other:

  Select the pets you own:[ ]  Cat
  [ ]  Dog
  [ ]  Budgie
  [ ]  Wildebeest

... and radio buttons are for groups of options where only one at a time
makes sense:

  Are you:  ( ) Female
( ) Male
( ) Unsure


If you've got a URL to the page in question (and if I have a coffee) I can
probably explain myself better :-)

Cheers
Jon

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