Re: Log4j Vulnerability

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

The vulnerability is only log4j 2

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 05:26, Daniele Corti via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi List!
> Today the vulnerability CVE-2021-44228 details (log4j) are out and looks like 
> all log4j versions are affected!
> 
> I’ve seen many attempt on the logs of the servers, but I was not able to 
> understand if also my ERJar which contains the log4j-1.2.17 is affected.
> 
> Anyone was able to check if the standard 
> er.extensions.logging.ERXConsoleAppender is vulnerable?
> 
> Best regards!
> 
> Daniele
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Re: Excessive resource usage: appserver (4787 (Parent PID:4787))

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

No, you’re definitely using too much CPU.

I had a problem recently moving a webobjects implementation with a similar 
problem. The issue was a wonky DNS problem where the hostname wasn’t always 
returning the correct address (still haven’t figured that out). I put the 
correct address in /etc/hosts and it quieted down.

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:12 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just transferred my apps to a new Linux VPS server and I am getting lots of 
> these type emails complaining about excessive resource usage.
> 
> Is it actually that or a over sensitive monitoring system?
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> Gino 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: xxx
>> Subject: lfd on xxx: Excessive resource usage: appserver (4787 (Parent 
>> PID:4787))
>> Date: 14 October 2020 at 10:09:53 BST
>> To: 
>> 
>> Time: Wed Oct 14 10:09:53 2020 +0100
>> Account:  appserver
>> Resource: Process Time
>> Exceeded: 25789 > 1800 (seconds)
>> Executable:   
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0.262.b10-0.el7_8.x86_64/jre/bin/java
>> Command Line: java -DWORootDirectory=/opt -DWOLocalRootDirectory=/opt/Local 
>> -DWOUserDirectory=/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa 
>> -DWOEnvClassPath= -DWOApplicationClass=funnel.store.app.Application 
>> -DWOPlatform=UNIX -Dcom.webobjects.pid=4787 -Djava.awt.headless=true 
>> -Xms128m -Xmx256m -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
>> com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap -WOPort 2005 -WOCachingEnabled YES 
>> -WODebuggingEnabled NO -WOOutputPath /tmp/StripePayments-1 
>> -WOAutoOpenInBrowser NO -WOAutoOpenClientApplication NO -WOLifebeatInterval 
>> 30 -WOLifebeatEnabled YES -WOLifebeatDestinationPort 1085 -WOAdaptor 
>> WODefaultAdaptor -WOWorkerThreadCount 8 -WOListenQueueSize 4 
>> -WOWorkerThreadCountMin 2 -WOWorkerThreadCountMax 8 -NSProjectSearchPath () 
>> -WOSessionTimeOut 10800 -WOStatisticsPassword amex1234 -WOApplicationName 
>> StripePayments -WOMonitorEnabled YES -WONoPause YES -Djava.awt.headless=true 
>> -WODirectConnectEnabled false -EOAdaptorDebugEnabled false 
>> -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/SalesF
>> unnel.woa/Frameworks
>> PID:  4787 (Parent PID:4787)
>> Killed:   No
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Re: How often do you bounce your apps?

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

I never bounce them - even with EOF ;)

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 07:07, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do you use to keep an eye on memory? JAVA has such an old-school 
> approach with the VM I use AWS and really don’t have any good automated 
> visualizing report on how instances or JAVA is running under the hood.
> 
> My apps seem to run for a long time as a few times my scheduler has failed 
> and they racked up 10X or even 100X normal sessions, but who knows what the 
> user patterns were really — I have had to increase my JAVA VM and set memory 
> stuff from JavaMonitor to keep things sane.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 3:35 AM, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Aaron,
>> 
>> (I’m still using EOF) and, for the main apps, I bounce every morning.
>> 
>> After updates I sometimes forget to activate the schedules without any 
>> problems… but I’m used to do it in the pasts where I had a lot of meomry 
>> leaks so I still do it.
>> 
>> Jérémy
>> 
>>> Le 5 août 2020 à 00:04, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Never. Uptime on my apps is usually weeks or months.
>>> 
>>> Cycled regularly when I used EOF though. That thing leaks.
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 4 Aug 2020, at 21:31, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev 
  wrote:
 
 Personally I feel better bouncing my .woa instances daily. Even if it is a 
 small site I have at least two instances and I gracefully cycle them on a 
 daily schedule. I feel better knowing that it is fresh every morning for 
 the new day. 
 
 On the other hand, I could see an argument that a java app shouldn’t have 
 any memory leaks. The garbage collector should get everything. If it 
 cannot do so, then you’ve got something messed up in your app that you 
 should track down and rectify. So maybe it’s better to just leave your 
 .woa instances running forever until the next redeployment to get new 
 features. 
 
 What does the community do? Do you cycle often (daily, twice per day, or 
 once per week) or do you leaving your instances running without a 
 scheduled restart? 
 
 Thanks to all those who chime in :-)
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Re: Weird deployment issue on Mojave (App runs but does not accept connection)

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

Michael,

This looks suspiciously like what I complained about recently. The issue was 
this line in the httpd.conf file:

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ “/var/www/cgi-bin/“

If this line is still in your httpd.conf file, comment it out. This doesn’t 
affect people that rename the URL to be something like apps in place of cgi-bin.

Ken

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Michael Kondratov via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> You may try to set the port number manually through WOPort parameter first. 
> Sound as Apache module is not working or not configured correctly.
> 
> Michael 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Markus Ruggiero via Webobjects-dev 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> For a test I created a deployment env on macOS 10.14.6 Mojave.
>> wotaskd runs
>> startet WOnitor manually and through monitor itself installed it as a WOApp
>> 
>> I can reach WOMonitor through http://localhost: 
>> , however I cannot reach it through 
>> http://localhost/cgi-bin/WOMonitor 
>> 
>> Ok, anyway, let's continue:
>> 
>> I take a deployment build of an app that successfully runs on the customer's 
>> system and deploy it on my Mojave box. Monitor brings it up, logfile tells 
>> me it is waiting for requests, but it does not answer any request, not even 
>> when I try to direct connect http://localhost:2002  
>> (WOMonitor sits on port 2001),  nothing happens in the log file, the Browser 
>> tells me that it cannot connect.
>> 
>> root@gugus_# curl -v http://localhost:2002 
>> * Rebuilt URL to: http://localhost:2002/ 
>> *   Trying ::1...
>> * TCP_NODELAY set
>> * Connection failed
>> * connect to ::1 port 2002 failed: Connection refused
>> *   Trying 127.0.0.1...
>> * TCP_NODELAY set
>> * Connected to localhost (127.0.0.1) port 2002 (#0)
>> > GET / HTTP/1.1
>> > Host: localhost:2002
>> > User-Agent: curl/7.54.0
>> > Accept: */*
>> >
>> * Empty reply from server
>> * Connection #0 to host localhost left intact
>> curl: (52) Empty reply from server
>> 
>> How to debug this? I am at a loss at the moment.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> ---markus---
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Re: Help with Apache... stuck - SOLVED

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

OK, so the problem was, this line in the regular https.conf file:

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/var/www/cgi-bin/"

Since I have WO using cgi-bin, this was apparently taking precedence. When I 
comment out the above line, all works again.

Ken


> On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> Well, I’ve circled back to a project I was half way through a year ago… and 
> I’m a little stuck. Trying to get a WO project off of AWS and running on a 
> home server.
> 
> CentOS 7
> Apache 2.4
> Wotaskd running
> WOMonitor running
> App installed and running
> 
> Unfortunately, when I go to the expected URL 
> (http://publicserver.anderhome.local//cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa 
> <http://publicserver.anderhome.local//cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa>), I 
> get:
> Not Found
> 
> The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa was not found on this 
> server.
> 
> 
> However, if I go to the root, I see the index.html file, so I know Apache is 
> responding.
> 
> Webobjects.conf is in the conf.d directory, with the following:
> 
> WebObjectsAlias /cgi-bin/WebObjects
> 
> # Specific to Apache 2.4
> 
> 
>   Require all granted
> 
> Require all denied
>
> 
> In the Apache error_log, I get this:
> 
> [Mon Apr 06 16:37:04.792319 2020] [cgi:error] [pid 19829] [client 
> 192.168.1.249:62985] script not found or unable to stat: 
> /var/www/cgi-bin/WebObjects
> 
> Which to me, means the module is not loaded. But I have this:
> 
> LoadModule WebObjects_module  modules/mod_WebObjects.so
> 
> In the webobjects.conf file, and there is a file at 
> modules/mod_WebObjects.so. I don’t get any errors when starting Apache, and 
> the syntax check passes.
> 
> What am I doing wrong? Any thoughts are appreciated!!
> 
> Best,
> Ken
> 
> 
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Re: Help with Apache... stuck

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

Jesse,

Hope all is well with you!

Yes, direct connect works if I enable it.

How do you configure it?  This is how I’ve always done it…

Ken

> On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> You’ve tested to the ip:port directly and your app runs ok?
> 
> Then it would indeed sound like apache, since wotaskd or monitor would show 
> other error types I’d think.
> 
> I think you could test wotaskd / monitor using a url with a port number like 
> -2001 on the URL, but I don’t think that will reveal anything for you here.
> 
> Are you mixing html website with your app? I’m no good with apache rules 
> myself, but your setup is different than what I typically do.
> 
> I’d fuss with apache first-there’s output logs listed in the config somewhere 
> you might make sure there’s nothing printed there.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> 
>> Well, I’ve circled back to a project I was half way through a year ago… and 
>> I’m a little stuck. Trying to get a WO project off of AWS and running on a 
>> home server.
>> 
>> CentOS 7
>> Apache 2.4
>> Wotaskd running
>> WOMonitor running
>> App installed and running
>> 
>> Unfortunately, when I go to the expected URL 
>> (http://publicserver.anderhome.local//cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa 
>> <http://publicserver.anderhome.local//cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa>), I 
>> get:
>> Not Found
>> 
>> The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa was not found on this 
>> server.
>> 
>> 
>> However, if I go to the root, I see the index.html file, so I know Apache is 
>> responding.
>> 
>> Webobjects.conf is in the conf.d directory, with the following:
>> 
>> WebObjectsAlias /cgi-bin/WebObjects
>> 
>> # Specific to Apache 2.4
>> 
>> 
>>   Require all granted
>> 
>> Require all denied
>>
>> 
>> In the Apache error_log, I get this:
>> 
>> [Mon Apr 06 16:37:04.792319 2020] [cgi:error] [pid 19829] [client 
>> 192.168.1.249:62985] script not found or unable to stat: 
>> /var/www/cgi-bin/WebObjects
>> 
>> Which to me, means the module is not loaded. But I have this:
>> 
>> LoadModule WebObjects_module modules/mod_WebObjects.so
>> 
>> In the webobjects.conf file, and there is a file at 
>> modules/mod_WebObjects.so. I don’t get any errors when starting Apache, and 
>> the syntax check passes.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong? Any thoughts are appreciated!!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
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Help with Apache... stuck

[Ken Anderson via Webobjects-dev]

Hi everyone!

Well, I’ve circled back to a project I was half way through a year ago… and I’m 
a little stuck. Trying to get a WO project off of AWS and running on a home 
server.

CentOS 7
Apache 2.4
Wotaskd running
WOMonitor running
App installed and running

Unfortunately, when I go to the expected URL 
(http://publicserver.anderhome.local//cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa 
), I get:
Not Found

The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/TrainTime.woa was not found on this 
server.


However, if I go to the root, I see the index.html file, so I know Apache is 
responding.

Webobjects.conf is in the conf.d directory, with the following:

WebObjectsAlias /cgi-bin/WebObjects

# Specific to Apache 2.4


  Require all granted

Require all denied
   

In the Apache error_log, I get this:

[Mon Apr 06 16:37:04.792319 2020] [cgi:error] [pid 19829] [client 
192.168.1.249:62985] script not found or unable to stat: 
/var/www/cgi-bin/WebObjects

Which to me, means the module is not loaded. But I have this:

LoadModule WebObjects_modulemodules/mod_WebObjects.so

In the webobjects.conf file, and there is a file at modules/mod_WebObjects.so. 
I don’t get any errors when starting Apache, and the syntax check passes.

What am I doing wrong? Any thoughts are appreciated!!

Best,
Ken



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Best Linux distro?

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’ve decided it’s time to stop paying Amazon for my little projects and run 
them from home. I have a PC that I can retask. Any suggestions on most WO 
friendly Linux distribution?

Many thanks!
Ken

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Re: Deployment script

[Ken Anderson]

+1

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 6:01 AM, Markus Ruggiero  
> wrote:
> 
> On 29 Dec 2018, at 01:05, Theodore Petrosky  > wrote:
>> 
>> i would love to get a copy of the script
>> 
>> i’d like to see how you are doing things.
> 
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> To follow up, I wrote and uninstall script and uninstalled the WO 
>>> Deployment stuff and then re-installed using the install script and all is 
>>> well now.
>>> 
>>> It will be nice having a deployment install script for Mac OS machines.  
>>> There is more I’d like to automate in it but If anyone wants a copy of what 
>>> I have let me know.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 27, 2018, at 9:59 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m now  trying to setup a second MacOS server using the script I created 
 when setting up the first one.  I’m close, but whenever I try to add a 
 Host in JavaMonitor I’m getting the following error:
 
Invalid Password - Access Denied
 
 I’m not sure what password it’s referencing or how I would enter it when 
 adding the Host.  Any ideas what’s going on?
 
 Jeff
 
 
 
> On Dec 26, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz 
> mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Forgot to mention, it's a rewrite rule in my httpd.conf that requires the 
> application name to be lowercase:
> 
> RewriteRule "^/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa(.*)$" 
> "/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netbrackets.woa$1" [R]
> 
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Theodore Petrosky > > wrote:
>> 
>> what was that? I think I left my system with localhost. 
>> 
>> I need to check that also.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz 
>>> mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The problem was I used camelcase when naming the application in 
>>> JavaMonitor.  I needed it to be lowercase.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz 
 mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 OK, using the scripts you sent (thanks!) I’ve setup the new machine 
 for deployment.  It all works as long as I specify localhost for all 
 the WOHost and related environment variables in the http setup, as 
 well as the specified Host in JavaMonitor/wotaskd.  However, when I 
 change all of the localhost’s to the local IP of the machine 
 (192.168.1.100), everything seems to work ok, and javamonitor is able 
 to start the application, but when try I navigate to the app's URL I 
 get the dreaded:
 
 The requested application was not found on this server.
 
 I’ve checked and double checked all the settings to no avail.  Any 
 idea what might be going on?  Again, I don’t have any problems when I 
 use localhost in all the http, monitor and wtaskd settings.
 
 Here’s the site config.
 
 
 
 


MACOSX
192.168.1.100




>>> type="NSString">YES
>>> type="NSString">WODefaultAdaptor
netBrackets
>>> type="NSNumber">16
>>> type="NSString">NO
>>> type="NSString">/usr/local/opt/WOApplications/netBrackets.woa/netBrackets
>>> type="NSNumber">8
>>> type="NSNumber">30
>>> type="NSString">
>>> type="NSNumber">256
>>> type="NSNumber">2001
-d64 -Xms2048m 
 -Xmx3072m -WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling YES EOAdaptorDebugEnabled 
 NO -WODirectConnectEnabled NO WOHost  192.168.1.100
>>> type="NSString">()
YES
>>> type="NSString">NO
>>> type="NSNumber">128
>>> type="NSNumber">0
>>> type="NSNumber">3600
>>> type="NSString">NO
>>> type="NSString">YES
>>> type="NSString">/usr/local/opt/WODeployment/Logs
>>> type="NSNumber">30

Best deployment style for Mojave ?

[Ken Anderson]

So, I haven’t deployed on a Mac for a VERY long time (always use war on Linux). 
 What’s the right way to deploy on a recent Mac OS?  The instructions say to 
download WO5.4.3 from Apple, but is that still right?

Thanks!
Ken
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Re: attribute of EO not synced

[Ken Anderson]

Good question - I always that it was on the EO level, not attribute level.

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 8:03 PM, OC <o...@ocs.cz> wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> 
> On 22. 3. 2018, at 0:53, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com> wrote:
> 
>> Are you sure no other attributes on the object were dirty in session B to 
>> block the update of the EO from the snapshot?
> 
> Actually, yes, pretty sure; for when B saves, _no_ update happens for the EO 
> 'foo'. Unless I am much mistaken, that must mean there were no dirty 
> attributes in foo at all, right?
> 
> (Aside of that, I have always thought that the attributes are merged 
> individually; i.e., that a dirtiness of attribute 'a' does not prevent 
> attribute 'b' (which is not dirty) being merged from the snapshot. Was I 
> wrong?)
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> OC
> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:41 PM, OC <o...@ocs.cz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> long time no see, my problems were plain and easy. Now though I am back 
>>> with another thing I can't understand.
>>> 
>>> There's an EO with a (string) attribute, let's say foo.value. A number of 
>>> sessions; session A occasionally sets the attribute, sessions B,C,D ... 
>>> read it. All happens in default ECs of sessions (not that it, far as I can 
>>> say, is important). Yesterday's log shows this sequence of events:
>>> 
>>> - A sets (and immediately saves to DB) foo.value "851;21.3.2018 10:48:19" 
>>> (lucky us, the value indeed happens to contain a timestamp)
>>> - B,C,D... all read (a number of times) proper foo.value "851;21.3.2018 
>>> 10:48:19"
>>> - A sets (and saves) foo.value "980;21.3.2018 10:51:07"
>>> - B reads (a number of times) OLD foo.value "851;21.3.2018 10:48:19" <- 
>>> this is the problem
>>> - whilst C,D,... all read proper foo.value "980;21.3.2018 10:51:07"
>>> - A sets (and saves) foo.value "1020;21.3.2018 10:52:20"
>>> - B,C,D... all read (a number of times) proper foo.value "1020;21.3.2018 
>>> 10:52:20"
>>> 
>>> Now, do please correct me if I am missing something, but I know of only two 
>>> cases which would explain the old foo.value in B:
>>> (i) the EC has not been unlocked and synced yet. Not the case: B did read 
>>> the wrong foo.value in a number of subsequent worker threads; besides, it 
>>> unlocks/locks the EC itself (more to that below);
>>> (ii) the foo.value in the EC of B is changed. Not the case either: B saves 
>>> changes in its EC a number of times; if the value has been changed in 
>>> there, it would get saved to the DB, which did not happen.
>>> 
>>> Is there any (iii) I have forgot?
>>> 
>>> Now, the code in which the value is read is somewhat non-standard; it needs 
>>> to ensure some level of serialisation, and thus looks like this:
>>> 
>>> ===
>>> EOEditingContext ec=... // the EC of objects we work with, happens to be 
>>> default EC of session here
>>> synchronized (lock) { // only one thread allowed to do this at the same time
>>> ec.unlock() // make sure all the changes from other threads ...
>>> ec.lock()   // ... are properly merged to our EC before we use it
>>> ...  // some other irrelevant code
>>> log "$foo.value" // here the attribute value read from our EO is logged 
>>> (the one which was wrong for B)
>>> ec.saveChanges() // changes made by the other irrelevant code are saved, if 
>>> any (it would save change of foo.value if any too)
>>> }
>>> ===
>>> 
>>> Note that the place where A does its foo.setValue(...); ec.saveChanges() is 
>>> *not* under the lock; there's no need (I believe) to make it serialized. 
>>> Only the “other irrelevant code” needs that.
>>> 
>>> About the only irregularity I has been able to find with the "980;21.3.2018 
>>> 10:51:07" was that it happened to been set whilst the session B did perform 
>>> its synchronized section. It well might have happened in paralel with the 
>>> “ec.unlock(); ec.lock()” part.
>>> 
>>> I wonder: might it perhaps be possible that, when one EC in a thread A does 
>>> “ec.unlock(); ec.lock()”, and another EC in another thread at the same time 
>>> changes (and saves) one of its EOs, that the change would NOT get properly 
>>> merged to the first EC?
>>> 
>>> If not, well, does anybody have any idea what might be the culprit?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for any advice,
>>> OC
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Re: attribute of EO not synced

[Ken Anderson]

Are you sure no other attributes on the object were dirty in session B to block 
the update of the EO from the snapshot?

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:41 PM, OC  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> long time no see, my problems were plain and easy. Now though I am back with 
> another thing I can't understand.
> 
> There's an EO with a (string) attribute, let's say foo.value. A number of 
> sessions; session A occasionally sets the attribute, sessions B,C,D ... read 
> it. All happens in default ECs of sessions (not that it, far as I can say, is 
> important). Yesterday's log shows this sequence of events:
> 
> - A sets (and immediately saves to DB) foo.value "851;21.3.2018 10:48:19" 
> (lucky us, the value indeed happens to contain a timestamp)
> - B,C,D... all read (a number of times) proper foo.value "851;21.3.2018 
> 10:48:19"
> - A sets (and saves) foo.value "980;21.3.2018 10:51:07"
> - B reads (a number of times) OLD foo.value "851;21.3.2018 10:48:19" <- 
> this is the problem
> - whilst C,D,... all read proper foo.value "980;21.3.2018 10:51:07"
> - A sets (and saves) foo.value "1020;21.3.2018 10:52:20"
> - B,C,D... all read (a number of times) proper foo.value "1020;21.3.2018 
> 10:52:20"
> 
> Now, do please correct me if I am missing something, but I know of only two 
> cases which would explain the old foo.value in B:
> (i) the EC has not been unlocked and synced yet. Not the case: B did read the 
> wrong foo.value in a number of subsequent worker threads; besides, it 
> unlocks/locks the EC itself (more to that below);
> (ii) the foo.value in the EC of B is changed. Not the case either: B saves 
> changes in its EC a number of times; if the value has been changed in there, 
> it would get saved to the DB, which did not happen.
> 
> Is there any (iii) I have forgot?
> 
> Now, the code in which the value is read is somewhat non-standard; it needs 
> to ensure some level of serialisation, and thus looks like this:
> 
> ===
> EOEditingContext ec=... // the EC of objects we work with, happens to be 
> default EC of session here
> synchronized (lock) { // only one thread allowed to do this at the same time
>  ec.unlock() // make sure all the changes from other threads ...
>  ec.lock()   // ... are properly merged to our EC before we use it
>  ...  // some other irrelevant code
>  log "$foo.value" // here the attribute value read from our EO is logged (the 
> one which was wrong for B)
>  ec.saveChanges() // changes made by the other irrelevant code are saved, if 
> any (it would save change of foo.value if any too)
> }
> ===
> 
> Note that the place where A does its foo.setValue(...); ec.saveChanges() is 
> *not* under the lock; there's no need (I believe) to make it serialized. Only 
> the “other irrelevant code” needs that.
> 
> About the only irregularity I has been able to find with the "980;21.3.2018 
> 10:51:07" was that it happened to been set whilst the session B did perform 
> its synchronized section. It well might have happened in paralel with the 
> “ec.unlock(); ec.lock()” part.
> 
> I wonder: might it perhaps be possible that, when one EC in a thread A does 
> “ec.unlock(); ec.lock()”, and another EC in another thread at the same time 
> changes (and saves) one of its EOs, that the change would NOT get properly 
> merged to the first EC?
> 
> If not, well, does anybody have any idea what might be the culprit?
> 
> Thanks a lot for any advice,
> OC
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Re: Application no longer responding after OSX and Server update

[Ken Anderson]

This is what I’ve done.  So much happier!  And the libraries are actually 
installed, so you can build adaptors.

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:23 AM, Tim Worman  wrote:
> 
> Save your future self some hassle. Do a non-apple install of apache using 
> homebrew, get it set up, and leave it. Your OS updates won’t impact it.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Jeff Schmitz > > wrote:
>> 
>> Figured it out.  I had the write apache config files, but the wrong apache.  
>> I was running the MacOS built in one instead of the one I installed from 
>> MacPorts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 6:18 AM, Jeff Schmitz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m having the same "The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/… was not found 
>>> on this server"  error on a new server I’m setting up.  I brought the 
>>> config files over from a working machine, changed all the “host” parameters 
>>> to the new machine name, and brought over the same apache4.2 
>>> mod_WebObjects.so from the working machine. 
>>> 
>>> I’m running:
>>> Server version: Apache/2.4.28 (Unix)
>>> Server built:   Oct 29 2017 19:28:54
>>> 
>>> womonitor starts the app fine, no errors.
>>> 
>>> Anything else to check?
>>> 
 On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Louis Demers  wrote:
 
 Yes, it actually mucked with 
 /Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/httpd_server_app.conf and removed
 
 the two lines i had added ...
 
 # Including WebObjects Configs
 Include 
 /Library/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.4/apache.conf
 
 
 I'm back up...
 
 Thanks...
 
 Louis Demers Eng.
 louisdem...@mac.com
 
 
 
> On Jun 26, 2017, at 14:22, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hi Louis,
> 
> You should always make a back up of httpd.conf when doing this.  Apple 
> loves to fiddle.
> 
> Not Found
> The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/Alexandria was not found on this 
> server.
> 
> Means that it is not seeing cgi-bin as a script directory.  Check these 
> sections of the Apache config:
> 
>#  
>   
>   
># ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server scripts. 
>   
>   
># ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that   
>   
>   
># documents in the target directory are treated as applications and
>   
>   
># run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to 
> the   
>  
># client.  The same rules about trailing "/" apply to ScriptAlias  
>   
>   
># directives as to Alias.  
>   
>   
>#  
>   
>   
>ScriptAliasMatch ^/cgi-bin/((?!(?i:webobjects)).*$) 
> "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/$1"
> 
> # 
>   
>
> # "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables" should be changed to whatever your 
> ScriptAliased 
>
> # CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.  
>   
>
> # 
>   
>
> 
>AllowOverride None
>Options None
>Require all granted
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> From: Webobjects-dev 
>  on behalf of 
> Louis Demers 
> Date: Monday, June 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM
> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" 
> Subject: Application no longer responding after OSX and Server update
> 
> Hi,

New JS stuff in Wonder 7 ?

[Ken Anderson]

All,

Looking through the files in WOnder 7 I see things like wondaculous-min js and 
wonder (ha) what new stuff there is.  Is there a write-up anywhere?  Examples?

Thanks,
Ken
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Re: mod_WebObjects.so on High Sierra

[Ken Anderson]

Thanks Matt!  I came to a similar conclusion and just got it working myself!

> On Feb 2, 2018, at 03:28, Matt Lee  wrote:
> 
> I have it installed via Homebrew.
> 
> https://brew.sh/
> 
> I installed it with brew install apache2
> 
> /usr/local/Cellar/httpd/2.4.29_1/bin/apxs
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mod_WebObjects.so on High Sierra

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’m trying to compile mod_WebObjects.so on High Sierra, but apxs appears to no 
longer be shipped.  How can I either compile it or download it?

Thanks!
Ken
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Re: New dev setup

[Ken Anderson]

I thought if you said the words “Direct” and “Connect” in the same sentence 
you’d get struck by lightning!

> On Dec 29, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
> 
> I don't install WO on my dev machines anymore, I just install WOLips in 
> Eclipse and allow Maven to build and manage my WO frameworks. Of course, this 
> setup assumes you'd like to use maven and can use direct connect for 
> development, rather than relying on Apache and/or JavaMonitor. But it 
> simplified my life a lot.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Dec 2017, at 19:02, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com 
>> <mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK guys - please forgive me.  I’m trying to setup a completely new machine 
>> without relying on the ancient ways of doing things.
>> 
>> I’ve downloaded WOnder and built it.  Why does it install in a directory 
>> called “Roots” ?
>> 
>> I want to setup to use Apache, wotaskd, and monitor on my High Sierra 
>> machine.  When I build the deployment.tools target, I get wotaskd.woa in the 
>> Roots directory, but when I try to run it, it can’t find 
>> 
>> er/extensions/appserver/ERXApplication
>> 
>> I’d also like it to run automatically on startup - not sure the best way to 
>> do that now.
>> 
>> I’ve combed through the wiki, but this is far as I’ve gotten.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts!!
>> 
>> Ken
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New dev setup

[Ken Anderson]

OK guys - please forgive me.  I’m trying to setup a completely new machine 
without relying on the ancient ways of doing things.

I’ve downloaded WOnder and built it.  Why does it install in a directory called 
“Roots” ?

I want to setup to use Apache, wotaskd, and monitor on my High Sierra machine.  
When I build the deployment.tools target, I get wotaskd.woa in the Roots 
directory, but when I try to run it, it can’t find 

er/extensions/appserver/ERXApplication

I’d also like it to run automatically on startup - not sure the best way to do 
that now.

I’ve combed through the wiki, but this is far as I’ve gotten.

Thanks for any thoughts!!

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Re: Recent installation instructions?

[Ken Anderson]

Thanks!

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> BTW, this link’s jar worked:
>  http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/WOInstaller.jar 
> <http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/WOInstaller.jar> 
> 
> this link’s jar is broken
> curl -O http://wocommunity.org/tools/WOInstaller.jar 
> <http://wocommunity.org/tools/WOInstaller.jar>
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com 
>> <mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I’m trying my darndest to setup a machine from scratch to use WOnder.  I 
>> could just copy everything from my current machine, but then I’d have old 
>> everything.
>> 
>> I’m following the instructions here:
>> 
>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation 
>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation>
>> 
>> But when I try to use curl to download WOInstaller.jar and run it, it says 
>> it’s corrupted.
>> 
>> What’s the right way to do a nice clean install?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ken
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Recent installation instructions?

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’m trying my darndest to setup a machine from scratch to use WOnder.  I could 
just copy everything from my current machine, but then I’d have old everything.

I’m following the instructions here:

https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation

But when I try to use curl to download WOInstaller.jar and run it, it says it’s 
corrupted.

What’s the right way to do a nice clean install?

Thanks,
Ken
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Re: Polymorphic Relationship

[Ken Anderson]

“JUST SAY NO”

Seriously, EOF does NOT like changing the inheritance structure of saved 
objects.  Take Chuck’s advice - change your design pattern.

Ken

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> Remy,
>  
> You *can* get an EO to change its class over time by changing the restricting 
> qualifier, discarding all cached knowledge of EO and doing a fetch.  *But* 
> that is really, really not recommended.  If that is what you need, then look 
> at the Role design pattern instead.  That is probably closer to what you need.
>  
> If you just need to create instances of different classes based on a string 
> (EntitySub.ENTITY_NAME) then create a factory method that takes the string 
> and returns an instance of a sub-class of EntityAbstract.  All of the 
> information needed to do this is in the model and can be referenced at 
> runtime.  It is quite simple.  The way you are doing it below is just wrong.
>  
> Chuck
>  
> From: Webobjects-dev 
>  on behalf of 
> remy 
> Date: Friday, November 24, 2017 at 2:30 AM
> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" 
> Subject: Polymorphic Relationship
>  
> Hi,
> 
> I want make an polymorphic entity.
> 
> I have an Entity Abstract named "EntityAbstract" and a subclass Entity named 
> "EntitySub" where the qualifier is (refEntityName=‘EntitySub').
> I have third Entity named "Relation" that has an relationship with 
> "EntitySub".
> 
> I have a problem when :
> 
> EOEditingContext editingContext = ERXEC.newEditingContext();
>  
> int relationID = Integer.valueOf(relation().primaryKeyInTransaction());
>  
> EntityAbstract entityAbstract = 
> ERXEOControlUtilities.createAndInsertObject(editingContext(), 
> EntityAbstract.class);
> entityAbstract.setRefEntityName(EntitySub.ENTITY_NAME);
> entityAbstract.setRefEntityID(relationID);
>  
> editingContext().saveChanges();
>  
> ERXEOControlUtilities.refreshObject(relation());
> for (EntityAbstract e : relation().entitySubs())
>  System.err.println(e); // Print   
> How to print  and not  ?
> 
> I don't want use the class "Entity" for 
> ERXEOControlUtilities.createAndInsertObject
> 
> Do you have an idea?
> 
> I tested :
> 
> eo.invalidateAllObjects(); eo.parentObjectStore().invalidateAllObjects(); 
> eo.rootObjectStore().invalidateAllObjects();
> It does not work...
> 
> The project : https://github.com/algodata44/PolymorphicRelationship 
> 
> Use DB H2
>  
> Thx
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Re: Any formal notice

[Ken Anderson]

At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
> 
> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this list but 
> I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
> 
> Gino
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Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT

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Somehow I don’t think Hugi is taking us seriously…

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Tim Worman  wrote:
> 
> Ha! LOL! I love that. That sense of humor is all the invitation I need. If I 
> could fit WOWODC ‘17 in my schedule, I will, wherever it is.
> 
> Tim
> UCLA GSE
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 6:39 AM, Hugi Thordarson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Awesome, I’ve already booked a venue. Look forward to seeing you guys.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13. jan. 2017, at 14:22, Markus Ruggiero  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Iceland? Would be interesting. And I may go if there is a WOWODC17 at all
>>> 
 On 13.01.2017, at 04:10, Chuck Hill  wrote:
 
 You have an extremely lenient definition of food!
 
 +1 on women and hot springs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 -100 on hakarl
>>> hakarl? what's that? Must be aful judging by Chuck's thumbs down
>>> 
>>> ---markus---
>>> 
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Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT

[Ken Anderson]

Awesome!  Are the hot springs just out of frame?

> On Jan 13, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Awesome, I’ve already booked a venue. Look forward to seeing you guys.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13. jan. 2017, at 14:22, Markus Ruggiero > > wrote:
>> 
>> Iceland? Would be interesting. And I may go if there is a WOWODC17 at all
>> 
>>> On 13.01.2017, at 04:10, Chuck Hill >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You have an extremely lenient definition of food!
>>>  
>>> +1 on women and hot springs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> -100 on hakarl
>> hakarl? what's that? Must be aful judging by Chuck's thumbs down
>> 
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Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT

[Ken Anderson]

a it’s food?  I was thinking women and hot springs

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Matthew Ness <m...@logicsquad.net> wrote:
> 
> Aye, but I'm only going if Hugi organises Hakarl.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017, at 01:28 PM, Michael Kondratov wrote:
>> Love the idea. And beer is so "cheap" in Iceland.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com 
>> <mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com>> wrote:
>>> Aye!
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:09 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com 
>>>> <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All in favor of Hugi organizing it in Iceland?
>>>>  
>>>> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com 
>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com>> on 
>>>> behalf of Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>>
>>>> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 4:01 PM
>>>> To: Steve Peery <spe...@me.com <mailto:spe...@me.com>>
>>>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com 
>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT
>>>>  
>>>> Same here.
>>>>  
>>>> - hugi
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> On 12. jan. 2017, at 23:52, Steve Peery <spe...@me.com 
>>>> <mailto:spe...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> If it happens, I will come.
>>>> Steve
>>>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>> So I take it that there is very little chance of WOWODC17. From the amount 
>>>> of traffic on the mailing list I feel like things are what they are!
>>>> What are your feelings!
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Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT

[Ken Anderson]

Very excited - always wanted to go to Iceland.

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Paul Hoadley  wrote:
> 
> On 13 Jan 2017, at 10:39 am, Chuck Hill  > wrote:
> 
>> All in favor of Hugi organizing it in Iceland?
> 
> Sounds great. Thanks Hugi. See you there.
> 
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Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT

[Ken Anderson]

Aye!

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:09 PM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> All in favor of Hugi organizing it in Iceland?
>  
> From:  > on 
> behalf of Hugi Thordarson >
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 4:01 PM
> To: Steve Peery >
> Cc: WebObjects-Dev  >
> Subject: Re: WOWODC17?? a little OT
>  
> Same here.
>  
> - hugi
>  
>  
>  
> On 12. jan. 2017, at 23:52, Steve Peery  > wrote:
> If it happens, I will come.
> Steve
> On Jan 12, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Theodore Petrosky  > wrote:
> So I take it that there is very little chance of WOWODC17. From the amount of 
> traffic on the mailing list I feel like things are what they are!
> What are your feelings!
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Re: AWS has surrendered!

[Ken Anderson]

Does anyone have a favorite image to start from?  The image I’ve built and used 
on AWS for years is 32 bit, but the available instance types for 32 bit are 
getting smaller and smaller.  What’s a good 64 bit image to start with?

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Paul Hoadley  wrote:
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> Hi Flavio,
> 
> On 26 Oct 2016, at 1:53 AM, Flavio Donadio  wrote:
> 
>> I’m gonna take a look at the script myself.
>> 
>> From what I understand, it’s a matter of where to find binaries for 
>> JavaMonitor, wotaskd and mod_WebObjects.so. And, finally, set some 
>> parameters in httpd.conf for mod_WebObjects.
>> 
>> Right?
> 
> Yeah, that’s roughly it. There are a few more steps, but do take a look and 
> see how you go.
> 
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Re: Multi-tenant Postgres support with EOF ?

[Ken Anderson]

I have done this many times, but not with any specific support from the 
database.

We stored all data in the same schema, and subclassed the editing context to 
have stop gap measures to ensure queries could not contain data other than the 
member/company that was connected to that session.  Ideally, you decorate the 
schema with details of the key path to link back to the company/member, then 
enforce that at the EC level.

Ken

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Vanek Josef  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We are developing a large website/REST solution for multiple customers. 
> Ideally every customer shall have access only to their own data through ACLs 
> or other mechanism.
> 
> We have been thinking of Postgres' native schema management and use if for a 
> multi-tenant solution. Has anyone implemented a Wonder's EOF extension that 
> would be able 
> to handle requests on the same connection but on a different scheme depending 
> on some login configuration?
> 
> If anyone has advice about the best practice for multi-tenancy DB 
> architectures with WO that differs from our thoughts above, please respond
> There must be some people who have experimented with Wonder and multi-tenancy.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Josef
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Next step: running complex queries that return counts

[Ken Anderson]

All,

Now that I have a good idea about charting, I now need to build the values that 
will be used for the charts.  Because of the volume of data, this will be a new 
entity that will have a bunch of totals computed and stored.

To generate the values, I need to run SQL selects that will return counts for 
me to store.  Something like this:

select count(distinct friendID) from MemberFriend where id in (select distinct 
memberFriendID from Fitlove where occurredAt between '2016-10-19 00:00:00' and 
'2016-10-19 23:59:59');

In searching around, it seems like 
ERXSQLQueryWithBindingsUtilities.rawRowsForSqlWithBindings would be perfect, 
but I have no idea how to generate the correct query and to setup the binding 
properly (using mysql 5.5).

Can anyone point me to some resources for doing raw rows with bindings with 
mysql?

Thanks!
Ken
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Re: Best charting

[Ken Anderson]

Thank you all for your excellent suggestions!!  It is much appreciated.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Stavros Panidis <stavros.pani...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I use R project - Rserve.
> 
> Stavos
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>>  3. Re: Best charting? (Steve Peery)
>>  4. Re: Best charting? (Paul Hoadley)
>>  5. NPE in ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorSynchronizer (Paul Hoadley)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:37:51 -0400
>> From: Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com>
>> To: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Best charting?
>> Message-ID: <25eeeb59-53c8-4c99-8e17-75fbc5852...@anderhome.com>
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>> All,
>> 
>> I have some data that I’d like to be able to make HTML 5 charts from.  Are 
>> there any decent tools for doing this with WO?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:43:46 +
>> From: "Morris, Mark" <mark.mor...@experian.com>
>> To: Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com>
>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Best charting?
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>> 
>> Hi Ken,
>> 
>> A few years ago I used jFreeChart, which was very easy to integrate. it has 
>> factory methods for each type of chart that you throw your data at, lots of 
>> customization options, and a variety of output formats. So for instance you 
>> can just include a method that returns the image data and use that right in 
>> your WOImage binding.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I have some data that I’d like to be able to make HTML 5 charts from.  Are 
>>> there any decent tools for doing this with WO?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Ken
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:51:54 -0400
>> From: Steve Peery <spe...@me.com>
>> To: "Morris, Mark" <mark.mor...@experian.com>
>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Best charting?
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>> I have also used jFreeChart.  
>> 
>> If you want to try it, see ERPChart and its subclasses in Wonder.
>> 
>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WonderIntegration/lastBuild/javadoc/er/plot/ERPChart.html
>> 
>> Wonder makes it easy!
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Morris, Mark <mark.mor...@experian.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ken,
>>> 
>>> A few years ago I used jFreeChart, which was very easy to integrate. it has 
>>> factory methods for each type of chart that you throw your data at, lots of 
>>> customization options, and a variety of output formats. So for instance you 
>>> can just include a method that re

Best charting?

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I have some data that I’d like to be able to make HTML 5 charts from.  Are 
there any decent tools for doing this with WO?

Thanks!
Ken
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Re: Going out of the community

[Ken Anderson]

Pascal,

Thank you for all you’ve done!  It would not have been the same without you.

Even if you’re not present at the next WOWODC in Montreal, hopefully you’ll 
join us for dinner!

Ken

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> In the events in my life in the last year, and having someone new in my 
> heart, I realize that it’s really time for me to leave the community. I just 
> don’t have the time and the will to continue, even more that I don’t even do 
> development anymore and my two WOWODC presentations were boring as hell. I 
> really need to start enjoying life.
> 
> No worry about the content. Maik will take over the wiki and Jenkins before 
> the end of the month, so you won’t notice anything. Everything will still be 
> on If someone wants to take over the two Twitter accounts, I can send you the 
> usernames and passwords.
> 
> We still need to check how the money from the association will be 
> distributed. Either we will distribute it in parts to each valid sponsor, or 
> something else. I won’t take a dime, and I don’t want to. 
> 
> About WOWODC, I do hope that others will take over. I can still organize it 
> in Montreal with the help of the event manager, but I won’t present.
> 
> Thanks for all your support over the years, and I do hope to see you again 
> sometime,
> 
> — Pascal
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Re: Test message please ignore

[Ken Anderson]

apparently not!

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
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> Is there a problem with the webobjects dev email system?
> 
> Just a test
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Re: Summary of the State of the Community

[Ken Anderson]

I have observed this community for a long time, and I know exactly what binds 
it:

alcohol

(apologies to those that don’t drink, but since Mike doesn’t hang out with us 
anymore…)

> On Jul 12, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Jean Pierre Malrieu  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Le 12 juil. 2016 à 03:14, Pascal Robert  a écrit :
>> 
>> So, before we decide to replace, or not, the tool stack, we want to know 
>> what defines the community and we want for feedback about this.
> 
> Hi Pascal, Hi everybody,
> 
> I watched the State of the Community recordings, and although I agree that it 
> would be better to know what defines the community, in case this proves 
> difficult to achieve, people can do things together even they don’t know 
> exactly what is their common identity. I mean I exist and I act (or at least 
> I think so) even if I would be hard pressed to tell exactly who I am ;-) 
> 
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Re: WebObjects and jboss

[Ken Anderson]

Is there a reason you’ve chosen JBoss?  IMHO, it has way too much in it that 
you don’t need.  I had good success deploying wars with tomcat, but it was a 
while ago.

> On Jun 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Leigh Kivenko  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Just wondering if there's anyone out there who has previously deployed 
> WebObjects applications using jboss?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: EODrinkingContext Corruption

[Ken Anderson]

EOSharedDrinkingContext?

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 12:46 AM, Jérémy DE ROYER  
> wrote:
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> Thank’s for sharing (:-)
> 
> Jérémy
> 
>> Le 26 juin 2016 à 04:45, David Avendasora  a 
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Re: Question about jdbc connection pool

[Ken Anderson]

I've built apps that handled millions of transactions a day with only a few 
instances. It's not always the best situation, but if you tune your DB well, it 
works.

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Tarun Reddy  wrote:
> 
> Huh. Never knew this (serial DB access). Is there a recommended way of 
> scaling out a WebObjects/Wonder application that doesn’t involve many, many 
> JVMs? Or should I really be using another application framework?
> 
> Tarun
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> I am pretty sure that maps to the ServerSocket’s backlog: “requested maximum 
>> length of the queue of incoming connections”
>>  
>>  
>> From:  on behalf 
>> of Ramsey Gurley 
>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 10:44 AM
>> To: Leigh Kivenko 
>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
>> Subject: Re: Question about jdbc connection pool
>>  
>> Off the top of my head, not sure. It’s probably specified in java monitor 
>> help. But it has nothing to do with database connections AFAIK.
>>  
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Leigh Kivenko  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks again. What is the “Connection pool size” in the JavaMonitor then? 
>> Something else?
>>  
>> 
>>  
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>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:52 PM
>> To: Leigh Kivenko 
>> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about jdbc connection pool
>>  
>> Yes, one connection per application instance is the default.
>>  
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Leigh Kivenko  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Ramsey. Does that mean there is only 1 database connection shared by 
>> all end-users of an app? So if a user hits a query that runs for 3+ seconds 
>> all other application users are stuck waiting for that query to complete?
>>  
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>> [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+dev=portfolioaid@lists.apple.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Ramsey Gurley
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: Leigh Kivenko 
>> Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about jdbc connection pool
>>  
>> The ObjectStoreCoordinator opens one connection which everything shares by 
>> default. If you want multiple connections, you have to create multiple OSCs. 
>> There’s an OSC pool built into Wonder, but it leaks memory.
>>  
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Leigh Kivenko  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> How does one set the jdbc connection pool size? Is there a default if this 
>> isn’t specifically set?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
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Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting to-one-relationship

[Ken Anderson]

One other reason - non class property relationships help EOF resolve abstract 
entity relationships when prefetching.  Without the non-class property back 
pointing relationships, the prefetched sub-entities don’t get connected 
properly.

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> Relationships that are a class property are fetched and maintained by EOF.  
> Relationships that are not a class property are just names that you can use 
> in a fetch specification – it tells EOF how to navigate the joins but EOF 
> will not fetch or manage them.
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From: Jérémy DE ROYER 
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:44 AM
> To: Samuel Pelletier 
> Cc: Chuck Hill , Philippe Rabier , 
> WebObjects-Dev 
> Subject: Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting 
> to-one-relationship
>  
> According to yours posts, it seems that for performance reasons, we have to 
> think twice (or more) before adding a reverse to Many relationship.
>  
> Before removing all the non-usefull to Many relationships and add the 
> associated delete controls, I have one more question (sic) :
> - What’s the difference, in an EOModel, between a to Many relationship 
> without Class Property and a to Many relationship with Class Property ?
> (or : Is it worth keeping them or is it better deleting all of them)
>  
> Jérémy
>  
> Le 6 juin 2016 à 14:48, Samuel Pelletier  > a écrit :
>  
> Jérémy,
>  
> You can keep a cache of the results inside your EO. As the EO is specific to 
> an EOEditingContext, it will be refreshed often if you use the pattern of 
> creating a new EOEditingContext per main WOComponent.
>  
> BTW, the toMany is triggered by the fact we ask EOF to update the reverse 
> relationships. By using an EO in a toOne, we add this EO to the reverse 
> toMany, to add an object to an array, this array needs to exists.
>  
> Samuel
>  
>  
> Le 5 juin 2016 à 18:49, Jérémy DE ROYER  > a écrit :
>  
> I tried this way last week but if it's faster when saving, it is much slower 
> when reading because it fetches each time without caching...
>  
> The reading performances are really good but I have to find a way to speed up 
> when inserting new objects that "overuse" the database and slow down the 
> other users
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> Le 6 juin 2016 à 00:33, Chuck Hill  > a écrit :
> 
> That is what I meant by fetching.  You need to re-implement those methods.   
> Change it to do an fetch on Customer where modeTransport == this
>  
> You can still use it to fetch a ModeTransport based on “listOrder contains 
> order”. 
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From: Jérémy DE ROYER  >
> Date: Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 3:26 PM
> To: Chuck Hill >
> Cc: WebObjects-Dev  >
> Subject: Re: How to avoid expensive fetches in database when setting 
> to-one-relationship
>  
> What do you mean with « you can still use it for fetching » ?
>  
> I removed the class property for the Customer to Order (but keeped the « 
> listOrder » relationship)
>  
> When I set the customer to the order, it runs fast.
>  
> But when I retrieve the orders using the method below :
>  
>   public NSArray listOrder() {
> return (NSArray)storedValueForKey("listOrder");
>   }
>  
> I get an error :
>  
>  ‘ valueForKey(): lookup of unknown key: 'listOrder'.
> This class does not have an instance variable of the name listOrder or 
> _listOrder, nor a method of the name listOrder  _listOrder, getListOrder, or 
> _getListOrder' object ‘{...}' key 'listOrder'>
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$DefaultImplementation.handleQueryWithUnboundKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1377)
> at 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOCustomObject.handleQueryWithUnboundKey(EOCustomObject.java:1545)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Utility.handleQueryWithUnboundKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:494)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$_KeyBinding.valueInObject(NSKeyValueCoding.java:894)
> at 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOCustomObject.storedValueForKey(EOCustomObject.java:1634)
> at Customer.listeOrder(_Customer.java:890)
>  
> Where am I wrong ?
>  
> Jérémy
>  
> Le 5 juin 2016 à 22:04, Chuck Hill  > a écrit :
>  
> Remove the “class property” setting for the ModeTransport to Order.  You can 
> still use it for fetching.
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From:  

32bit vs 64bit

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’ve been using an image on AWS that’s 32 bit, but the options they offer for 
32bit are dwindling.  I think it’s probably time to build out a 64 bit image.  
Any thoughts?  How many of you guys are deploying on 32bit Linux vs 64bit?

Thanks,
Ken
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Re: El Capitan - no more /System/Library/WebObjects

[Ken Anderson]

Thanks for the tips.  I had already moved everything except the apache stuff 
and JavaApplications - so I just had to deal with that.  Upgrades always 
trounce the apache config file, so had to do that anyway.  All good now!


> On May 15, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
> 
> You can also use Maven, then there’s no need to install WO anywhere anymore. 
> You just download Eclipse and install the WOlips plugin.
> 
> - jhugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15. maí 2016, at 15:50, Markus Ruggiero <mailingli...@kataputt.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Put things wherever you want. Simply make the necessary adjustments in your 
>> wolips.properties. For deployment I strongly suggest include everything into 
>> your built app. This frees you from having to install any runtime env. I 
>> would suggest to keep the folder hierarchy conforming to the old standard 
>> with an arbitrary folder denoted as wo.local and inside it 
>> ./Library/Frameworks (giving wo.local.frameworks). Put a sub-folder called 
>> System into your chosen wo.local location and have wo.system point there. 
>> Inside wo.system have the same ./Library/Frameworks structure (giving you 
>> wo.system.frameworks). Note: these wo.xxx thingies are the entries from your 
>> wolips.properties
>> 
>> have fun
>> ---markus---
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15.05.2016, at 00:19, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK everyone - hoping someone ca point me to an easy approach here.
>>> 
>>> I’ve kept things around in /System/Library/WebObjects since the beginning - 
>>> just because, I don’t really know what’s looking there.  But no it seems El 
>>> Capitan is going to make absolutely sure I can’t install anything in there.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a recommended place to place wotaskd, etc?  I know I should 
>>> follow the rules - and they definitely make it difficult to work around 
>>> them!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ken
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El Capitan - no more /System/Library/WebObjects

[Ken Anderson]

OK everyone - hoping someone ca point me to an easy approach here.

I’ve kept things around in /System/Library/WebObjects since the beginning - 
just because, I don’t really know what’s looking there.  But no it seems El 
Capitan is going to make absolutely sure I can’t install anything in there.

Anyone have a recommended place to place wotaskd, etc?  I know I should follow 
the rules - and they definitely make it difficult to work around them!

Thanks,
Ken
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Re: Follow up on closure

[Ken Anderson]

Mark,

We all benefit immensely - I can’t imagine coding W/O WO  :)  Apple realizes 
the benefit - they still use it!  But… it doesn’t fit what the company has 
become - all understandable.

I expect to still be using WebObjects for years to come...

Ken

> On May 13, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Mark Wardle  wrote:
> 
> I agree and have bought bronze membership to ensure that no-one is left out 
> of pocket.
> 
> WO has benefitted me and my users and patients enormously. We have over 3000 
> clinical encounters recorded every month tracking patient cohorts and their 
> outcomes. We have over 2 patients ERRest made building iPad clients 
> trivial and the system keeps on running and has done since 2009. Thank you 
> all for helping with this as WO and Wonder have been fundamental in its 
> success.
> 
> Extraordinarily surprised that Apple hasn’t understood or appreciated what it 
> has. For complex applications supporting complex business rules (like 
> medicine), I haven’t been able to find another technology stack that would 
> make things quite as easy as WO. 
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 12 May 2016, at 19:53, Calven Eggert > > wrote:
>> 
>> I too would like to say thank you to the entire WO community for their 
>> assistance over the years.  WebObjects is not going anywhere soon as far as 
>> I'm concerned.  If that counts for anything:)
>> 
>> FYI, I work for UHN (a group of teaching hospitals) in Toronto.  We have 
>> been using WO apps for over 15 years.  We actively maintain about half a 
>> dozen applications, putting out new versions regularly.  All applications 
>> run on the intranet.  We've built a framework that all the apps use and that 
>> framework as of last year is now using Project WOnder.  We get requests for 
>> new applications regularly and we are working on another fair size 
>> application as we speak.  With the use of WO and Project Wonder it certain 
>> feels like we deliver applications faster than many other bigger IT groups 
>> in the company.
>> 
>> BTW, A colleague and I are excited that we will be attending wowodc in 
>> Montreal.
>> 
>> Calven
>> 
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Re: Follow up on closure

[Ken Anderson]

Yes

> On May 12, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Gavin Eadie  wrote:
> 
>> On May 12, 2016, at 2:53 PM, David LeBer  wrote:
>> 
>> I've purchased a sponsorship, but if there is still a shortfall, you can 
>> count on me to chip in a little more.
> 
> .. does a "sponsorship" help Pascal’s shortfall?
> 
>   I assume so since several messages have indicated that’s what people are 
> doing but I want to be sure.
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Re: Follow up on closure

[Ken Anderson]

Agreed.  I have no doubt of 2 things:

1.  Pascal will be made whole.
2.  The community will continue on.

Ken

> On May 12, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
> 
> I think that is a poor way of looking at it.  Pascal has put his heart and 
> soul and an amazing amount of effort and determination in the community for 
> many years.  It would not exist were it not for Pascal. What we are primarily 
> discussing is not how to keep the WO Association going as it is, but how to 
> prevent our friend from being financially harmed by the end of the status 
> quo.  That is my first and foremost consideration.  Friends don’t leave 
> friends hanging.  Period.
>  
> Once that is taken care of, we can consider what is actually needed now and 
> how to best accomplish that. 
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
>  
> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on behalf 
> of jazz salsa <jazzsa...@me.com>
> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 8:40 AM
> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: Re: Follow up on closure
>  
> This way of working is weird to me. I make a proposal to form a new community 
> together and get zero response. 
> 
> Why would i spend 50$ to a "community" that is only about one person doing 
> all the work? And it is not clear if we get access to the wowodc 2016 stuff. 
> 
> It is time for change. Who wants this also?
> 
> Let's start the migration after wowodc anyway. Two people offered hosting at 
> their companies.
> 
> Regards Bart 
> 
> P.D. I will fix the spreadsheet 
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>3. Re: Follow up on closure (Hugi Thordarson)
>4. Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association (Jérémy DE ROYER)
>5. Re: Follow up on closure (Jérémy DE ROYER)
>6. Re: Follow up on closure (Ken Anderson)
>7. Re: Follow up on closure (Klaus Berkling)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:31:40 +
> From: Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca>
> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: Follow up on closure
> Message-ID: <8402cb81-4188-4465-9e05-05caff598...@macti.ca>
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> 
> It seems the majority wants to keep the WOCommunity server alive until 
> WOWODC, so let's do that.
> 
> Now, the reasons of why I wanted to shutdown everything:
> 
> - The results of the surveys are not positive. Only 57% of respondents use WO 
> for new and current projects, 32% only for maintenance, the rest is moving 
> away or already done so.
> 
> - Based on this, I expect to lose 10-12 WOWODC guests, so I calculated that 
> we needed 45 guests and made the arrangements based on that number. Sadly, we 
> are only 33 so far, and usually at that timeframe, we only get 4-5 
> registrations. Hence the 6200$ deficit (now reduced to about 2100$).
> 
> - Contributions to Wonder is next to nothing for the last year.
> 
> - I was thinking that having a session about using Cayenne with WO would be a 
> great way to modernize WO, and hence generate interest, and looks like I was 
> wrong, or else we would have more people at WOWODC, not less.
> 
> - At WOWODC 2014, we asked if people were using the master branch of Wonder, 
> and the vast majority said they are using their own fork. So why should we 
> keep Jenkins if most of you use their own forks?
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 09:14:26 -0500
> From: Michael Kondratov <mich...@aspireauctions.com>
> To: Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca>, webobjects-dev@lists.a

Re: Follow up on closure

[Ken Anderson]

Markus - there is no WO in Cayenne.

> On May 12, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Markus Ruggiero  
> wrote:
> 
> Thus as interesting as Cayenne sounds, there is still WebObjects underneath

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Re: Follow up on closure

[Ken Anderson]

Hugi,

I don’t think this had anything to do with you.  I would not have pushed the 
buttons you pushed - but so be it.  Me, I prefer to let sleeping dragons…  
sleep :)

Pascal laid out the issues that brought him to his conclusion:

-  Less participation in WOnder
-  Less attendance at WOWODC
-  The math of 57% for new, and 32% for maintenance, but to me, that means 89% 
are still active!  I call this good!

Personally, I don’t think these changes warrant shutting things down - but 
clearly Pascal has had enough, and we all need to pick up the flag he has 
carried for so long and so well.

As Pascal has said the last time we were going to shut down, I’m guessing it 
would be easier for someone in Canada to take over the association, but if 
there’s no takers, I’m happy to help coordinate the migration to a US based 
entity.

Ken


> On May 12, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> I feel rather bad and somewhat responsible for everything that’s going on 
> these days. I had no idea that a phonecall from Apple would result in this.
> 
> I'm still using WO actively in numerous old and new projects, and I don’t see 
> that changing anytime soon. Being an opensource nut I’ve made numerous 
> attempts at “escaping” WO, but that sweet, sweet statefulness, lovely API, 
> KVC and WOLips just keeps dragging me back in.
> 
> We need to find a way forward.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12. maí 2016, at 14:14, Michael Kondratov  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pascal,
>>  There are also people like us that use WO for internal projects. I have 
>> not been able to find any other platform that would warrant a move. It was 
>> pretty clear to me that Apple discontinued WO good 15 years ago. Is it 
>> really possible that only 50 people or so in the world that still use 
>> WebObjects? Is there something that is better? (Or 99.99..% use inferior 
>> tools?)
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2016, at 6:31 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It seems the majority wants to keep the WOCommunity server alive until 
>>> WOWODC, so let's do that.
>>> 
>>> Now, the reasons of why I wanted to shutdown everything:
>>> 
>>> - The results of the surveys are not positive. Only 57% of respondents use 
>>> WO for new and current projects, 32% only for maintenance, the rest is 
>>> moving away or already done so.
>>> 
>>> - Based on this, I expect to lose 10-12 WOWODC guests, so I calculated that 
>>> we needed 45 guests and made the arrangements based on that number. Sadly, 
>>> we are only 33 so far, and usually at that timeframe, we only get 4-5 
>>> registrations. Hence the 6200$ deficit (now reduced to about 2100$).
>>> 
>>> - Contributions to Wonder is next to nothing for the last year.
>>> 
>>> - I was thinking that having a session about using Cayenne with WO would be 
>>> a great way to modernize WO, and hence generate interest, and looks like I 
>>> was wrong, or else we would have more people at WOWODC, not less.
>>> 
>>> - At WOWODC 2014, we asked if people were using the master branch of 
>>> Wonder, and the vast majority said they are using their own fork. So why 
>>> should we keep Jenkins if most of you use their own forks?
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Ken Anderson]

I'm really hoping to!

> On May 11, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
> 
> At 32 people that is $200 each to cover the shortfall.  I am good for at 
> least that!  We are not going to let you get caught short on this.
>  
> Maybe we can encourage some additional people to attend too.
>  
> Chuck
>  
>  
> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on behalf 
> of Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:08 PM
> To: Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca>
> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Pascal,
>  
> Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out 
> and make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to 
> meet?
>  
> Ken
>  
> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca> wrote:
>  
> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
> we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
> <webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com> de la part de 
> Musall Maik <m...@selbstdenker.ag>
> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
> À : WebObjects-Dev
> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Hi guys,
>  
> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
> too late.
>  
> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, 
> we can eliminate that.
>  
> Maik
>  
> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa <jazzsa...@me.com>:
>  
> Hi WebObjects fans,
>  
> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>  
> Pascal Robert
> 
> 21 hrs · Montreal, QC, Canada
> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>  
> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
> on the wiki:
>  
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>  
> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are interested 
> to receive updates about the migration? 
> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>  
> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the size 
> of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this easily.
>  
> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association

[Ken Anderson]

Pascal,

Why would you think we would let that happen to you?  We will figure it out and 
make sure you’re not out of pocket.  What are the minimums you have to meet?

Ken

> On May 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
> 
> I fond it weird to have to do that because we only have 32 guys at WOWODC, so 
> we have a +6000$ deficit that I will have to pay from my pockets since I 
> can't meet the minimum set by the hotel.
> De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=macti...@lists.apple.com 
>  de la part de 
> Musall Maik 
> Envoyé : 11 mai 2016 16:37:22
> À : WebObjects-Dev
> Objet : Re: Closure of WOCommunity Association
>  
> Hi guys,
> 
> I find this weird to be announced exclusively on Facebook of all places. I 
> also find it inappropriate to be notified of something like this on short 
> notice without a chance for the community to discuss the details before it's 
> too late.
> 
> Anyway, we can host the stuff at our company's hosting place. One VPS more 
> ore less doesn't make a difference. If the hosting costs are the main factor, 
> we can eliminate that.
> 
> Maik
> 
>> Am 11.05.2016 um 21:06 schrieb jazzsalsa > >:
>> 
>> Hi WebObjects fans,
>> 
>> I just read this message on Facebook from Pascal:
>> 
>> Pascal Robert
>> 
>> 21 hrs 
>>  
>> · Montreal, QC, Canada
>> With the official death of WebObjects, it is time to announce the closure of 
>> the WOCommunity Association. We don't have any cash left to pay the expenses 
>> of WOWODC 2016 and the hosting.
>> WOWODC 2016 won't be cancelled. Unless someone wants to host the wiki and 
>> Jenkins, they will be shutdown at the end of the month. Recordings of WOWODC 
>> 2016 will only be available to attendees.
>> 
>> Very bad indeed. Therefore I created an overview of WebObjects fans I found 
>> on the wiki:
>> 
>> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ADCCC076DD8AF29D!106=!ACckRFppMHmbsog=file%2cxlsx
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Let's find out how to organize the migration. I just sent an email to RedHat 
>> (openshift) to see if they support it. 
>> 1. Could you be so kind to add your email address in case your are 
>> interested to receive updates about the migration? 
>> 2. Fill in the column ("continent") as well to figure out how we are 
>> distributed on the planet(for skype calls and meetups). 
>> 3. Mention if you support (need) the migration of the services maven, 
>> jenkins, wiki, others I forgot
>> 
>> Pascal, could you be so kind to fill in sheet "Infrastructure" about the 
>> size of the services we are talking about. This will help to migrate this 
>> easily.
>> 
>> Many thanks, Bart
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Re: More sophisticated tools

[Ken Anderson]

Sounds like someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about, and making 
assumptions.

> On May 5, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
> 
> On the money.cnn article it said
> "There are now a large number of more sophisticated tools that accomplish 
> what Jobs and WebObjects revolutionized 20 years ago.”
> 
> Which tools?
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> G
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Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

[Ken Anderson]

Hugi - you beat me to the Cayenne comment.

In terms of transition, it might not be a bad idea to write a compatibility 
layer on top of Cayenne to ease transition.  The concepts and granularity are 
similar enough…

Ken

> On May 4, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Ricardo Parada  wrote:
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
>>> If you think about it, one of the reasons they are bringing Swift to Linux 
>>> is because they want a cool language on the server as well as on the client 
>>> and leverage the code and libraries on both. 
>>> 
>>> At some point these developers need an ORM framework. Either Apple or 
>>> someone else will do it in pure Swift without requiring the Objective-C 
>>> run-time. Possibly a future Core Data. Then they'll need a templating 
>>> request handling framework like WebObjects for Swift. And a REST framework. 
>>> Let's bug Federighi with emails about bringing this back. :-)
>> 
>> Federighi probably cares a lot about WO/EOF since he spent years 
>> reimplementing it at Ariba ( http://aribaweb.org/ ). But I doubt he has the 
>> time or support to do anything about WO within Apple. It’s a market Apple 
>> simply isn’t in.
>> 
> 
> I remembered Ariba and the time he spent there too and it's part of why I was 
> wondering if he had any love left for WebObjects.  :-)
> 
> Also I can't imagine working on the server side without something like 
> EOF/WebObjects. 
> 
>>> Anyways, putting all this day dreaming aside I think we need a clean room 
>>> implementation of EOF as it had been described before.  I have worked at al 
>>> levels in EOF and I feel this would be possible until I realize that I am 
>>> married with four kids and a full time job that leaves me with no spare 
>>> time left to work on things like this.   :-)
>>> 
>>> Was the idea of a clean room implementation of EOF abandoned?
>> 
>> We already have a clean room reimplementation of EOF—it’s called Cayenne and 
>> I’m now using it in all of our projects. We just need to figure out what to 
>> do with the presentation layer (WO).
>> 
> 
> I think that is great for new projects. I was thinking of something API 
> compatible with EOF for those of us who have built large systems with WO/EOF 
> to make the transition less traumatic. :-)
> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2016, at 4:48 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
 
 Probably no one as surprised as myself. I probably sent dozens of e-mails 
 to sjobs on the subject trough the years without receiving a reply. But to 
 Tim’s credit, it only took four emails before I was contacted. He’s a lot 
 less stubborn, obviously.
 
 And we Viking are a misunderstood, peaceful people. Apart from sending 
 angry emails to corporate executives, these days we  mostly conduct our 
 coastal raids through Panamian law firms using money stored in offshore 
 companies. It’s so much easier than eating psychoactive mushrooms and 
 running around raping and pillaging.
 
 - hugi
 
 
 
> On 3. maí 2016, at 23:22, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
> The Viking Tradition lives on!
> 
> 
> From: David LeBer 
> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:20 PM
> To: Chuck Hill 
> Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
> Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
> 
> Yeah, I was surprised by that too.
> 
> Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long 
> dead and forgotten product ;)
> 
> -- 
> D
> 
>> On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill (ch...@gevityinc.com) wrote:
>> 
>> I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must 
>> have taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us 
>> every year, get rid of him!”
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, 
>>> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com on behalf 
>>> of Pascal Robert" 
>>> >> of prob...@macti.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio  a écrit :
 
 Hugi,
 
 
 That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. 
 The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us 
 the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final 
 word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
 
 So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
 
 We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as 
 open source software! ;-)
>>> 
>>> This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to 

Re: Performance issue

[Ken Anderson]

Gerald,

There are 2 different things happening here.  The session creation exception 
seems to be something you’re raising in your own code.  The lines below the 
exception relate to receiving changes made from other application instances.

You’re going to have to drill down to the problem a bit more before anyone on 
the list can help you.

Ken

> On Mar 15, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Gerald Jones  > wrote:
> 
> Aloha Group,
>  
> Can anyone explain to me what’s happening in these lines in our log file?  We 
> are experiencing high application cpu% that seem to coincide with  this type 
> of activity.  I’m not sure how to explain it.
>  
> METSAdmin-2
> java.lang.RuntimeException: Session Created
> at com.mauishuttle.app.Session.(Session.java:20)
> at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native 
> Method)
> at 
> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
> at 
> sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
> at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:513)
> at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:355)
> at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:308)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation._NSUtilities.instantiateObject(_NSUtilities.java:642)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.createSessionForRequest(WOApplication.java:1974)
> at 
> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.createSessionForRequest(ERXApplication.java:2361)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication._initializeSessionInContext(WOApplication.java:2110)
> at com.webobjects.appserver.WOContext.session(WOContext.java:369)
> at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.session(WOComponent.java:1324)
> at com.mauishuttle.components.Main.session(Main.java:59)
> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> at 
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
> at 
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$ValueAccessor$1.methodValue(NSKeyValueCoding.java:636)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$_MethodBinding.valueInObject(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1134)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$DefaultImplementation.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1324)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.valueForKey(WOComponent.java:1736)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Utility.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:447)
> at 
> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:216)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.valueForKeyPath(WOComponent.java:1804)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOKeyValueAssociation.valueInComponent(WOKeyValueAssociation.java:50)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOAssociation.booleanValueInComponent(WOAssociation.java:276)
> at 
> er.extensions.components.conditionals.ERXWOConditional.conditionInComponent(ERXWOConditional.java:47)
> at 
> er.extensions.components.conditionals.ERXWOConditional.meetsConditionInComponent(ERXWOConditional.java:52)
> at 
> er.extensions.components.conditionals.ERXWOConditional.appendToResponse(ERXWOConditional.java:124)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:126)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:136)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.appendToResponse(WOComponent.java:1122)
> at 
> er.extensions.components.ERXComponent.appendToResponse(ERXComponent.java:195)
> at 
> com.mauishuttle.components.wrappers.PageWrapper.appendToResponse(PageWrapper.java:36)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOComponentReference.appendToResponse(WOComponentReference.java:135)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:126)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:136)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.appendToResponse(WOComponent.java:1122)
> at 
> er.extensions.components.ERXComponent.appendToResponse(ERXComponent.java:195)
> at 
> com.mauishuttle.components.pages.DashboardPage.appendToResponse(DashboardPage.java:42)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent._appendPageToResponse(WOComponent.java:1574)
> at 
> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent._generateResponseInContext(WOComponent.java:1543)
>  

Re: What's new?

[Ken Anderson]

What about MontageJS ?

> On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Yuri Kondratov  wrote:
> 
> SproutCore is a JS framework that was developed by Apple and is used in web 
> apps such as iCloud.
> 
> Ember is an offshoot of it. It is watered down SproutCore. We have been using 
> Ember because back in the days, SproutCore had performance problems which are 
> now much less noticeable.
> 
> With Ember 2.x, the developers have lost their way completely and are going 
> down the wrong path. We are planning to make a move to SproutCore.
> 
> The other js frameworks are by hipsters for hipsters. Not WO devs :D
> 
> If anyone knows any other good JS frameworks that are similar to WO ideology, 
> please let me know!
> 
> Oh and while i was writing this post, I went on the iTunes connect web app to 
> confirm its SproutCore based like iCloud… and to my shock, it’s AngularJS!!! 
> What?!?
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Cicenia > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Here’s a very interesting back end setup:
>> mongoDb and vert.x 
>> 
>> FrontEnd… 
>> react
>> meteor
>> angular2
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> bootstrap
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Chuck Hill >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2016-01-12, 10:30 PM, "T Worman" >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Welcome back!
 
 The biggest issue with Golipse was adjusting the p2 installer for more 
 recent versions of Eclipse. Or something like that. I think it was more 
 that than the file locations - if I recall. I had a hard time finding 
 documentation on it.
 
 Crap, now I need to learn JavaScript and REST?
>>> 
>>> Yes, all of the cool kids are doing it.  The real question is “Which 
>>> JavaScript framework(s) will I learn?”.  There seems to be a new on almost 
>>> every day!
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSE
 
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Chuck Hill  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Lachlan,
> 
> Nice to see you around, welcome back.  Yes, I am still here though snail 
> harvesting sounds tempting and soothing.
> 
> The community is getting smaller and more fragmented.  Several people 
> have joined Apple now and they tend not to be around much.
> 
> The last time I tried Golips it also did not work.  IIRC, it was a 
> version problems and the downloads it was trying to get no longer 
> existed.  The instructions on the wiki should be up to date for a DYI 
> install.
> 
> Some people have migrated to Cayenne from EOF, and either use a REST API 
> to drive a JavaScript client, or probably use Tapestry.  Andrus did some 
> presentations on this, I am not sure if they are on the wiki or part of 
> the backlog we need to deal with.
> 
> The WO version is still 5.4.3 with the latest Wonder on it.  We are up to 
> Java 7 and looking at 8.  Some people use Maven, most I think have stuck 
> with Ant.  Just say NO to Vertical Inheritance!  :-P
> 
> No really exciting developments that I recall, mostly a move away from 
> HTML interfaces to JavaScript ones driven by a REST back-end.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2016-01-12, 6:37 PM, 
> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com 
>  on 
> behalf of Lachlan Deck" 
>   on 
> behalf of lachlan.d...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> it’s been a few years or so since I’ve kept up with the lay of the 
>> WOland. 
>> Having signed back up recently to the list I noticed that Chuck hasn’t, 
>> as yet, gone off to sheep herding or snail harvesting :)
>> 
>> Out of curiosity I downloaded Golipse as per 
>> (https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation 
>> ).
>> It doesn’t seem to do anything when I run it. I’m on OS X 10.11.2. Is 
>> that expected?
>> 
>> I recall a few years back people were thinking of migrating to 
>> WO/Cayenne from WO/EOF.
>> I didn’t see anything about that on the wiki.
>> 
>> So what’s the recommended flavour of WO these days? Any exciting 
>> developments over the last few years?
>> 
>> And what of Ant / maven / etc? 
>> Vertical inheritance? ;-)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Lachlan
>> 
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Re: WOWODC 2016: call for papers!

[Ken Anderson]

Very cool!

> On Nov 26, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pascal,
> 
> 1) What is the planned hotel for the conference? I might purchase flight 
> tickets now, they seem like a good price at the moment. 
> 
> 2) Topic idea (what I’d present):
> 
> “Single page apps with client side persistence and WO REST”
> 
> In Hamburg I showed what Single-Page-Apps are. I did not show how to persist 
> information on a server. In this talk I’d show how to use WO for permanent 
> storage via REST and also how to use local client storage when you are 
> disconnected from the internet like in a metro-rail.
> 
> Cool?
> AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike
> e:  aa...@chatnbike.com  t:  (301) 956-2319   
>   
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> It's that time of the year! Yes, I need topics for WOWODC 2016. Having them, 
>> even if it's not a complet list, before the end of the year would be great.
>> 
>> I'm going to present two things:
>> 
>> - Modern WO deployment with Puppet and mod_proxy
>> - Integration with other tools (JIRA, IMAP, phone systems).
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Re: WOWODC 2016: call for papers!

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Yes!

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Michael Kondratov  > wrote:
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> Is there any interest in a presentation on integrating EmberJS?
> Michael Kondratov
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>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Pascal Robert > > wrote:
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>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> It's that time of the year! Yes, I need topics for WOWODC 2016. Having them, 
>> even if it's not a complet list, before the end of the year would be great.
>> 
>> I'm going to present two things:
>> 
>> - Modern WO deployment with Puppet and mod_proxy
>> - Integration with other tools (JIRA, IMAP, phone systems).
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Re: Making EOs aware of session properties (I know they should not but I need this anyway)

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Markus,

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Markus Ruggiero  > wrote:
> 
>> Is currentUser not an EO?  I’m guessing not, otherwise you wouldn’t have 
>> this problem :)
> 
> Yes, it is, but I fail to see why I should not have that problem.

Why not have an instance variable on the user that has their current region?  
You could then just set it when the user logs in.  Maybe the user object is not 
reachable from all your logic, which would also explain why it might be 
difficult…

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Re: Making EOs aware of session properties (I know they should not but I need this anyway)

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Is currentUser not an EO?  I’m guessing not, otherwise you wouldn’t have this 
problem :)

Are the EOs shared across sessions?  If not, you could always subclass ERXEC 
and add a region property, then set your subclass as the factory EC.  When the 
user logs in and the session is created, set the region of the default EC to be 
the region of the user.

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Markus Ruggiero  wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I have the following problem:
> My application must support different geographical regions. A logged-in user 
> is assigned a region. This uses info is stored in Session. My EOs have 
> business logic that must act region specific. How can I let the EOs know 
> about the current region (from session().currentUser().region() )? The 
> business logic is in its own framework and knows nothing about sessions 
> (which is how it supposed to be). Would ERXThreadStorage be of any help here?
> 
> Example of what I need:
> Entity Product has a region specific product description. So simple accessors 
> "description()" and "setDescription(String text)" are not good enough. The 
> logic inside these accessors MUST take the current user's region into account.
> 
> I used to have my own editing context class with a session instance variable. 
> This worked before because I had the business logic and all the controller 
> code in the same project. Now with the separation into different projects 
> this does not work anymore (which is actually quite ok, I know it was a 
> kludge before).
> 
> Thanks for any help
> ---markus---
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Re: Documenting the EO Model

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I thank them with my $$$ :)

> On Nov 6, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com> wrote:
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> We do have to thank the guys at Omni for continuing to support that feature.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Ken Anderson <kenli...@anderhome.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Omnigraffle will open an EOModel into a beautiful graph.
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Benjamin Steiner <stei...@rucotec.ch> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> We are currently designing a quite complex EO Model, and there’s a lot to 
>>> be documented. Does anyone have some advice on how to approach that on a 
>>> large scale or is anyone using some Tools to do it?
>>> I’ve heard of program called “EO Model Doc”, but i don’t know how to get it 
>>> or if it’s even still working.
>>> 
>>> thanks for any advice
>>> beni
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Re: Documenting the EO Model

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Omnigraffle will open an EOModel into a beautiful graph.

> On Nov 6, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Benjamin Steiner  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> We are currently designing a quite complex EO Model, and there’s a lot to be 
> documented. Does anyone have some advice on how to approach that on a large 
> scale or is anyone using some Tools to do it?
> I’ve heard of program called “EO Model Doc”, but i don’t know how to get it 
> or if it’s even still working.
> 
> thanks for any advice
> beni
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Re: Problem with %z in NSTimestampFormatter

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He needs the - in there, since it’s GMT -4 hours…

 On Jul 23, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Gavin Eadie ga...@umich.edu wrote:
 
 On Jul 22, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 %S%z
 
 %S-%z ?
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Query with binary data?

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’m working on a server that will send push notifications through Apple’s Push 
Notification service.  I was originally thinking of storing the device token in 
binary, but then realized that I will have to look up devices by the device 
token when the feedback service reports an error.

Is there a way to do a query with binary data (using mysql for the DB), or 
should I just store it as a hex string instead?  Any experience with this?

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Re: Entity Modeler SQL generation exception

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Awesome!  Is it on the Eclipse update site yet?

 On May 8, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 BTW, the fix from Wolfy also fix the issue with reverse engineering!
 
 De: Ângelo Andrade Cirino aacir...@gmail.com mailto:aacir...@gmail.com
 À: Samuel Pelletier sam...@samkar.com mailto:sam...@samkar.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com 
 mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Jeudi 7 Mai 2015 15:31:32
 Objet: Re: Entity Modeler SQL generation exception
 
 Hi Samuel, Wolfy seems to have solved the bug. I will create a branch in my 
 repo and will report back.
 
 Angelo
 
 Em 07/05/2015, à(s) 16:25, Samuel Pelletier sam...@samkar.com 
 mailto:sam...@samkar.com escreveu:
 
 Ângelo,
 
 I added some debug output and I think I found the problem but have no 
 solution yet...
 
   Activator.getDefault().log(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class :  + 
 o.getClass().getName());
   for (Class anInterface : o.getClass().getInterfaces()) {
   Activator.getDefault().log(interface :  + 
 anInterface.getName());
   } 
   Activator.getDefault().log(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class Loader 
 :  + o.getClass().getClassLoader())
   Activator.getDefault().log(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory class Loader :  + 
 IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.class.getClassLoader());
 
 The output:
 !MESSAGE IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class : 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory
 !MESSAGE interface : 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory
 !MESSAGE IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class Loader : 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.EquinoxClassLoader@289c2793[org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse:4.4.20150506.01(id=1470)]
 !MESSAGE IEOSQLGeneratorFactory class Loader : 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.EquinoxClassLoader@2dcbf825[org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core:4.4.20150506.01(id=1469)]
 
 So these are 2 different class objects from 2 class loader for the same class.
 
 Anyone know how to fix this ?
 
 Samuel
 
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Re: Entity Modeler SQL generation exception

[Ken Anderson]

Works like a charm!

Thank you Wolfgang!

 On May 8, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 It is.
 
 Envoyé de mon iPhone
 
 Le 2015-05-08 à 08:49, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com a écrit :
 
 Awesome!  Is it on the Eclipse update site yet?
 
 On May 8, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca 
 mailto:prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 BTW, the fix from Wolfy also fix the issue with reverse engineering!
 
 De: Ângelo Andrade Cirino aacir...@gmail.com mailto:aacir...@gmail.com
 À: Samuel Pelletier sam...@samkar.com mailto:sam...@samkar.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com 
 mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Jeudi 7 Mai 2015 15:31:32
 Objet: Re: Entity Modeler SQL generation exception
 
 Hi Samuel, Wolfy seems to have solved the bug. I will create a branch in my 
 repo and will report back.
 
 Angelo
 
 Em 07/05/2015, à(s) 16:25, Samuel Pelletier sam...@samkar.com 
 mailto:sam...@samkar.com escreveu:
 
 Ângelo,
 
 I added some debug output and I think I found the problem but have no 
 solution yet...
 
 Activator.getDefault().log(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class :  + 
 o.getClass().getName());
 for (Class anInterface : o.getClass().getInterfaces()) {
 Activator.getDefault().log(interface :  + 
 anInterface.getName());
 } 
 Activator.getDefault().log(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class Loader 
 :  + o.getClass().getClassLoader())
 Activator.getDefault().log(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory class Loader :  + 
 IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.class.getClassLoader());
 
 The output:
 !MESSAGE IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class : 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory
 !MESSAGE interface : 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory
 !MESSAGE IEOSQLGeneratorFactory object class Loader : 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.EquinoxClassLoader@289c2793[org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse:4.4.20150506.01(id=1470)]
 !MESSAGE IEOSQLGeneratorFactory class Loader : 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.EquinoxClassLoader@2dcbf825[org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core:4.4.20150506.01(id=1469)]
 
 So these are 2 different class objects from 2 class loader for the same 
 class.
 
 Anyone know how to fix this ?
 
 Samuel
 
 Ângelo Andrade Cirino
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Re: Entity Modeler SQL generation exception

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Thanks Wolfgang!  Looking at the list of changes, I never would have been able 
to figure it out!

 On May 7, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Wolfgang Halbeisen halbei...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hy,
 
 I think I have fixed the problem.
 Please have a look at the pull-request which should fix it: 
 https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/116 
 https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/116
 
 The description of the problem is added to the pull-request.
 
 Greetz, Wolfy
 
 Subject: Re: Entity Modeler SQL generation exception
 From: aacir...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 13:06:51 -0300
 To: sam...@samkar.com
 CC: Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 
 In IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.java I made this
 
 Object o = configurationElement.createExecutableExtension(class);
 System.out.println(object class :  + o.getClass().getName());
 IEOClassLoaderFactory classLoaderFactory = (IEOClassLoaderFactory) o;
 
 And got this output
 
 object class : 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse.EclipseEOModelGroupFactory
 
 The returned class is neither EOFSQLGeneratorFactory nor 
 IEOSQLGeneratorFactory
   
 Em 07/05/2015, à(s) 12:33, Samuel Pelletier sam...@samkar.com 
 mailto:sam...@samkar.com escreveu:
 
 I also get the same error. I modified a plugin.xml file that seemed incorrect 
 and now I have this one:
 
 java.lang.ClassCastException: 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory cannot be 
 cast to org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory$Utility.sqlGeneratorFactory(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.java:29)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog.generateSql(GenerateSQLDialog.java:297)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog$1.run(GenerateSQLDialog.java:279)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
 
 I do not understand how it is possible; EOFSQLGeneratorFactory implements 
 IEOSQLGeneratorFactory !
 
 public class EOFSQLGeneratorFactory implements IEOSQLGeneratorFactory {
 ...
 }
 
 
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Re: Is there any problem with EOUtilities.localInstanceOfObject

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My guess is, it’s really not waiting for the save to complete.  If you could 
post code, we could be more helpful.

 On May 5, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Vineetha N vinee...@evergent.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  Please help me for the below problem.
 
  I have inserted new object into EditingContext EC1 and saved the same.My 
 thread will be started after saveChanges.In the thread,iam taking 
 EditingContext EC2 as ERXEC.newEditingContext() and trying to get the object 
 into EC2  through EOUtilities.localInstanceOfObject(EC2 ,Object).
 
 It is working fine.but sometimes,we are getting the object as null.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Vineetha
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Re: Entity Modeler exception when trying to generate SQL

[Ken Anderson]

Has anyone made any progress on this?  If not, can anyone point me to resources 
that would help me be able to develop/debug this?

Thanks,
Ken

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Ângelo Andrade Cirino aacir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Some more light on the issue. This is the first time I debug WOLips and I 
 have never attempted to change the code. That said, when debugging Entity 
 Modeler I was able to locate this exception thrown just before the exception 
 I originally reported was thrown:
 
 org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse was unable to load class 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory.
 
 !ENTRYat 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.throwException(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:194)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:176)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ExtensionRegistry.createExecutableExtension(ExtensionRegistry.java:905)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElement.java:243)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElementHandle.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElementHandle.java:55)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory$Utility.sqlGeneratorFactory(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.java:29)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog.generateSql(GenerateSQLDialog.java:297)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog$1.run(GenerateSQLDialog.java:279)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
 Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory cannot be 
 found by org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse_1.0.6
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:432)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:345)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:337)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.ModuleClassLoader.loadClass(ModuleClassLoader.java:160)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.framework.EquinoxBundle.loadClass(EquinoxBundle.java:568)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:174)
   ... 7 more
  org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.ActivatorResources 4 4 2015-04-29 
 21:13:07.546
 !MESSAGE Could not create SQL generator factory from configuration element: 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElementHandle@7b77
 !STACK 1
 org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse was unable to load class 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory.
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.throwException(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:194)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:176)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ExtensionRegistry.createExecutableExtension(ExtensionRegistry.java:905)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElement.java:243)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElementHandle.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElementHandle.java:55)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory$Utility.sqlGeneratorFactory(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.java:29)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog.generateSql(GenerateSQLDialog.java:297)
   at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog$1.run(GenerateSQLDialog.java:279)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
 Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory cannot be 
 found by org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse_1.0.6
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:432)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:345)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:337)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.ModuleClassLoader.loadClass(ModuleClassLoader.java:160)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
   at 
 org.eclipse.osgi.internal.framework.EquinoxBundle.loadClass(EquinoxBundle.java:568)
   at 
 org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:174)
   ... 7 more
 !SUBENTRY 1 org.eclipse.equinox.registry 4 1 2015-04-29 21:13:07.546
 

Re: ERJGroupsSynchronizer.framework on EC2

[Ken Anderson]

You kill my father… prepare to die

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Re: Wonder 7 and 8

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ahh ok!  That makes sense :)

 On Apr 30, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com wrote:
 
 He was just indicating that it was an appropriate time for Wonder to be 
 updated for Java 7!  :-P
 
 
 On 2015-04-30, 11:11 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
 
 and your point is?  :)  We live in EOL land!
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com 
 mailto:rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote:
 
 Java 7 appears to be EOL starting tomorrow
 
 https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_7.xml 
 https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_7.xml
 
 
 On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:44 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 mailto:webobje...@avendasora.com wrote:
 
 Hey all
 
 About a year ago a bunch of work to make Wonder Java 7 compatible. But the 
 branch is now 86 commits behind the master branch  (Wonder 6). 
 
 I propose we:
 1) Create a branch at the current head of master called Wonder_6 for 
 6-specific bug fixes going forward
 2) Merge Wonder_7 branch into Master and then delete it.
 3) Create the *first* release of Wonder 7 from Master
 4) Work through as much of the current pull requests as possible, making 
 sure they work well with Java 7, create a final Wonder_7 release
 3) Create Wonder_7 branch for 7-specific bug fixes going forward
 5) Use Master for ongoing modern java development until we transition to 
 Wonder_9
 
 If there are features that are added to the more modern branches but you 
 can’t use them because you are limited to Java 6 or 7, then you will be 
 allowed to create pull requests to bring those commits to older branches 
 the the work to do so would be on the developer wanting the back-porting. 
 Not on the original developer.
 
 What does everyone say?
 
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Re: Wonder 7 and 8

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and your point is?  :)  We live in EOL land!

 On Apr 30, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote:
 
 Java 7 appears to be EOL starting tomorrow
 
 https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_7.xml 
 https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_7.xml
 
 
 On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:44 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 mailto:webobje...@avendasora.com wrote:
 
 Hey all
 
 About a year ago a bunch of work to make Wonder Java 7 compatible. But the 
 branch is now 86 commits behind the master branch  (Wonder 6). 
 
 I propose we:
 1) Create a branch at the current head of master called Wonder_6 for 
 6-specific bug fixes going forward
 2) Merge Wonder_7 branch into Master and then delete it.
 3) Create the *first* release of Wonder 7 from Master
 4) Work through as much of the current pull requests as possible, making 
 sure they work well with Java 7, create a final Wonder_7 release
 3) Create Wonder_7 branch for 7-specific bug fixes going forward
 5) Use Master for ongoing modern java development until we transition to 
 Wonder_9
 
 If there are features that are added to the more modern branches but you 
 can’t use them because you are limited to Java 6 or 7, then you will be 
 allowed to create pull requests to bring those commits to older branches the 
 the work to do so would be on the developer wanting the back-porting. Not on 
 the original developer.
 
 What does everyone say?
 
 Dave
 
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Re: OT: The Beers of WOWODC

[Ken Anderson]

Wow!  That place looks very cool…  but I don’t see any beer… :)

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 For those that were not able to make it to Hamburg:
 
 https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A75qXGF1GXsg0N 
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Re: Creating the perfect error page

[Ken Anderson]

Is it checked in?  I think the entire community needs to try out DaveLips 
(YIKES)

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:23 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 Pt. Eclipse is so yesterday. I created a D2JC-based Text Editor / IDE 
 called DaveLips™ It exclusively uses Vertical Inheritance in it’s modeling 
 component and it is deployed in a servlet container. 
 
 
 On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com 
 mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com wrote:
 
 Dave, have you been typing in Eclipse again?
 
 
 On 2015-04-26, 11:02 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
 
 
 The standard WO exception page is starting to show its age and I think it’s 
 high time we improve it.
 
 Ehhx... Ehhhxsep... Exseeeption?
 
 Are you referring to the page that WO always returns until my code has been 
 peer-reviewed?
 
 If so, I do think your new one is pretty darn nice!
 
 Dave Avendasora 
 
 
 
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Re: wotaskd on Yosemite

[Ken Anderson]

Absolutely



 On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:54 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 
 Can you look at the wotaskd install instructions on the WIKI and make sure 
 that it includes information about this issue so others don’t trip over it 
 the same way.
 
 Dave
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Nevermind - all good now.
 
 The /Library/WebObjects/Logs directory was not write-able by appserver, and 
 was clearly pissing everything off.
 
 Thanks for everyones help!
 
 Ken
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 ok - progress!
 
 For some reason, the upgrade to Yosemite got rid of the linked file to the 
 conf file in the adaptors directory.  I didn’t notice until now.  When 
 modWebobjects wasn’t loading, I just added it to the load modules of the 
 main httpd.conf, not thinking that everything else was missing too!
 
 So, now I’m getting “No instance available” - which is definitely progress. 
  Now I get this in the error log:
 
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446126 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] error sending request
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446314 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] error sending request
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446323 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] Failed to send 
 request
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.451075 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] Request handling 
 error: No instance available
 
 and this in the access_log:
 
 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Apr/2015:08:58:28 -0400] GET 
 /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- HTTP/1.1 500 65
 
 Bogdan, I checked, and WODirectConnectEnabled is false, and WOHost is set 
 to localhost.  I also don’t see any errors in the output of wotaskd.  Any 
 other ideas?
 
 Thanks again,
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, no errors related to mod_Webobjects.  Plus, httpd -M shows 
 it loaded.
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov bogdan.zlata...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It might be a good idea to check the apache error logs for any problems 
 with mod_WebObjects
 
 On 26/04/2015 14:44, Ken Anderson wrote:
 Thanks Pascal.
 
 Yes, WebObjects_module (shared) appears with httpd -M, and the only 
 place cgi-bin appears is:
 
 IfModule alias_module
 ScriptAliasMatch ^/cgi-bin/((?!(?i:webobjects)).*$) 
 /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/$1”
 /IfModule
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 That sounds like a ScriptAlias directive problem.
 
 Do:
  httpd -M 
 
 And check for the presence of mod_WebObjects. If it’s there, search for 
 « cgi-bin » in Apache’s config files, you probably have a config that 
 says that anything starting with /cgi-bin will be handled by a specific 
 directory.
 
 Le 2015-04-26 à 08:14, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com a écrit :
 
 Thanks Markus.  Unfortunately, I’ve worked backwards and seem to have 
 more issues than I thought.
 
 I can run wotaskd manually, but I still can’t connect to a WOApp.  I 
 have apache 2.4 running and loading mod_WebObjects.  I can access 
 other things through Apache (like a website built with a virtual host 
 directive).  The syntax of the apache.conf file passes.  I made this 
 change:
 
 Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
 #   Order deny,allow
 #   Deny from all
 /Directory
 
 to comment out the Order and Deny items.
 
 Can anyone think of anything else?  I get a Not Found when trying to 
 reach an app I know is running in Eclipse:
 
 Not Found
 The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- was not 
 found on this server.
 
 I can direct connect to Monitor with localhost:56789 and am setting 
 -WOPort 56789 when launching Monitor.
 
 Anyone have any other thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ruggiero 
 mailingli...@kataputt.com wrote:
 
 Put the following as a text file into /Library/LaunchDeamons. You 
 might call it org.projectwonder.wotaskd.plist. Check the location of 
 your wotaskd.woa and adapt the path accordingly. There is also a path 
 to wotaskd.log. Adapt that too. Then just do sudo launchctl load 
 org.projectwonder.wotaskd and wotaskd should run (and keep running)
 
 Have fun
 ---markus---
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd;
 plist version=1.0
 dict
   keyDisabled/key
 
   false/
   keyGroupName/key
 
   string_appserveradm/string
   keyLabel/key
 
   stringorg.projectwonder.wotaskd/string
   keyOnDemand/key
 
   false/
   keyProgram/key
   string/ServerApplications/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd/string
   keyProgramArguments/key
 
   array
 
   stringwotaskd/string
 
   string-WOPort/string
 
   string1085/string
 
   string-WOHost/string
 
   stringlocalhost/string

Re: Entity Modeler exception when trying to generate SQL

[Ken Anderson]

I am having the same problem.  Anyone getting closer to a solution?

Ken

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:55 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 On Apr 29, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is 
 mailto:h...@karlmenn.is wrote:
 
 I get this same error whenever attempting to generate SQL from Modeler. 
 Happened after upgrading to WOLips from the new 4.4 repository, returning to 
 my previous configuration (self compiled WOLips plugin) still works fine.
 
 Really?! Your self-compiled is also 4.4? Let’s work together on figuring out 
 what is different in your build from the one being used by Jenkins.
 
 On 29. apr. 2015, at 01:37, Ângelo Andrade Cirino aacir...@gmail.com 
 mailto:aacir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I’ve setup FrontBase as my development database server and am using Eclipse 
 4.4.2 and WOLips 4.4. When I try to generate SQL or reverse engineer a 
 database I get the following exception:
 
 java.lang.ClassCastException: 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.EOFSQLGeneratorFactory cannot be 
 cast to org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory
 at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core.sql.IEOSQLGeneratorFactory$Utility.sqlGeneratorFactory(IEOSQLGeneratorFactory.java:29)
 at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog.generateSql(GenerateSQLDialog.java:297)
 at 
 org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.actions.GenerateSQLDialog$1.run(GenerateSQLDialog.java:279)
 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
 
 Any clues?
 
 Angelo
 
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Re: WOLips update site for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna)

[Ken Anderson]

I was about to say, I can edit components without trouble.

So seems like SQL generation is the open item - is there anything I can do to 
help on this one?

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Gavin Eadie ga...@umich.edu wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is 
 mailto:h...@karlmenn.is wrote:
 .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/
 
 deleting this file fixed the problem .. many thanks.
 
 The file contained the following:
 
 gavin$ cat org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core.prefs
 eclipse.preferences.version=1
 org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor.sashWeights=1000
 
 
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Re: WOLips update site for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna)

[Ken Anderson]

So, even while running Eclipse Luna on 1.7, I couldn’t build.  I had to start 
using the 1.7 JVM for my app.  That works fine, so all good… just thought I’d 
let everyone know.

I hope everyone has had safe travel back from Germany!

Ken

 On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Ok got it. Yes, only Java 6 is on the machine.  I'll try installing 7 and 
 running eclipse with it.
 Thanks,
 Ken
 
 
 
 On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com 
 mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com wrote:
 
 51 is Java 7.  You must be running Eclipse with Java 6.
 
 Chuck
 
 On 2015-04-28, 5:41 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I’m having a little trouble with my ancient build.xml files.  I’m getting 
 this when trying to do an install:
 
 java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: 
 org/objectstyle/woproject/ant/WOCompile : Unsupported major.minor version 
 51.0
 
 I’m guessing eclipse 4.4 doesn’t like plugins compiled with 1.6.  I’m just 
 not sure where this old jar is living, or what to replace it with.
 
 Anyone else run into this?
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:31 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 mailto:webobje...@avendasora.com wrote:
 
 I’d like to announce that due to a some hard work at WOWODC by Larry 
 Mills-Gahl, Tom Philip, Pascal Robert and some furious 
 “build”-button-clicking by myself…
 
 WOLips for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna) is now successfully building on the 
 WOCommunity Jenkins server!
 
 The Eclipse update site for Eclipse 4.4 is:
 
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
  
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
 
 Does anyone need 4.2 or 4.3 update sites? If not, then I think we’ll just 
 stick with 3.7 and 4.4 for now.
 
 Dave Avendasora
 
 
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Re: WOLips update site for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna)

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’m having a little trouble with my ancient build.xml files.  I’m getting this 
when trying to do an install:

java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: org/objectstyle/woproject/ant/WOCompile 
: Unsupported major.minor version 51.0

I’m guessing eclipse 4.4 doesn’t like plugins compiled with 1.6.  I’m just not 
sure where this old jar is living, or what to replace it with.

Anyone else run into this?

Ken


 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:31 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’d like to announce that due to a some hard work at WOWODC by Larry 
 Mills-Gahl, Tom Philip, Pascal Robert and some furious 
 “build”-button-clicking by myself…
 
 WOLips for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna) is now successfully building on the WOCommunity 
 Jenkins server!
 
 The Eclipse update site for Eclipse 4.4 is:
 
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
  
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
 
 Does anyone need 4.2 or 4.3 update sites? If not, then I think we’ll just 
 stick with 3.7 and 4.4 for now.
 
 Dave Avendasora
 
 
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Re: WOLips update site for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna)

[Ken Anderson]

Ok got it. Yes, only Java 6 is on the machine.  I'll try installing 7 and 
running eclipse with it.
Thanks,
Ken



 On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com wrote:
 
 51 is Java 7.  You must be running Eclipse with Java 6.
 
 Chuck
 
 On 2015-04-28, 5:41 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I’m having a little trouble with my ancient build.xml files.  I’m getting 
 this when trying to do an install:
 
 java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: 
 org/objectstyle/woproject/ant/WOCompile : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
 
 I’m guessing eclipse 4.4 doesn’t like plugins compiled with 1.6.  I’m just 
 not sure where this old jar is living, or what to replace it with.
 
 Anyone else run into this?
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:31 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’d like to announce that due to a some hard work at WOWODC by Larry 
 Mills-Gahl, Tom Philip, Pascal Robert and some furious 
 “build”-button-clicking by myself…
 
 WOLips for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna) is now successfully building on the 
 WOCommunity Jenkins server!
 
 The Eclipse update site for Eclipse 4.4 is:
 
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
 
 Does anyone need 4.2 or 4.3 update sites? If not, then I think we’ll just 
 stick with 3.7 and 4.4 for now.
 
 Dave Avendasora
 
 
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Re: WOLips update site for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna)

[Ken Anderson]

AWESOME!!

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:31 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’d like to announce that due to a some hard work at WOWODC by Larry 
 Mills-Gahl, Tom Philip, Pascal Robert and some furious 
 “build”-button-clicking by myself…
 
 WOLips for Eclipse 4.4 (Luna) is now successfully building on the WOCommunity 
 Jenkins server!
 
 The Eclipse update site for Eclipse 4.4 is:
 
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
  
 https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/WOLips/job/WOLips44/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
 
 Does anyone need 4.2 or 4.3 update sites? If not, then I think we’ll just 
 stick with 3.7 and 4.4 for now.
 
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Re: wotaskd on Yosemite

[Ken Anderson]

ok - progress!

For some reason, the upgrade to Yosemite got rid of the linked file to the conf 
file in the adaptors directory.  I didn’t notice until now.  When modWebobjects 
wasn’t loading, I just added it to the load modules of the main httpd.conf, not 
thinking that everything else was missing too!

So, now I’m getting “No instance available” - which is definitely progress.  
Now I get this in the error log:

[Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446126 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] error sending request
[Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446314 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] error sending request
[Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446323 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] Failed to send request
[Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.451075 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] Request handling error: 
No instance available

and this in the access_log:

127.0.0.1 - - [26/Apr/2015:08:58:28 -0400] GET 
/cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- HTTP/1.1 500 65

Bogdan, I checked, and WODirectConnectEnabled is false, and WOHost is set to 
localhost.  I also don’t see any errors in the output of wotaskd.  Any other 
ideas?

Thanks again,
Ken


 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, no errors related to mod_Webobjects.  Plus, httpd -M shows it 
 loaded.
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov bogdan.zlata...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bogdan.zlata...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It might be a good idea to check the apache error logs for any problems with 
 mod_WebObjects
 
 On 26/04/2015 14:44, Ken Anderson wrote:
 Thanks Pascal.
 
 Yes, WebObjects_module (shared) appears with httpd -M, and the only place 
 cgi-bin appears is:
 
 IfModule alias_module
 ScriptAliasMatch ^/cgi-bin/((?!(?i:webobjects)).*$) 
 /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/$1”
 /IfModule
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca 
 mailto:prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 That sounds like a ScriptAlias directive problem.
 
 Do:
  httpd -M 
 
 And check for the presence of mod_WebObjects. If it’s there, search for « 
 cgi-bin » in Apache’s config files, you probably have a config that says 
 that anything starting with /cgi-bin will be handled by a specific 
 directory.
 
 Le 2015-04-26 à 08:14, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com a écrit :
 
 Thanks Markus.  Unfortunately, I’ve worked backwards and seem to have 
 more issues than I thought.
 
 I can run wotaskd manually, but I still can’t connect to a WOApp.  I have 
 apache 2.4 running and loading mod_WebObjects.  I can access other things 
 through Apache (like a website built with a virtual host directive).  The 
 syntax of the apache.conf file passes.  I made this change:
 
 Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
 #   Order deny,allow
 #   Deny from all
 /Directory
 
 to comment out the Order and Deny items.
 
 Can anyone think of anything else?  I get a Not Found when trying to 
 reach an app I know is running in Eclipse:
 
 Not Found
 The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- was not 
 found on this server.
 
 I can direct connect to Monitor with localhost:56789 and am setting 
 -WOPort 56789 when launching Monitor.
 
 Anyone have any other thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com wrote:
 
 Put the following as a text file into /Library/LaunchDeamons. You might 
 call it org.projectwonder.wotaskd.plist. Check the location of your 
 wotaskd.woa and adapt the path accordingly. There is also a path to 
 wotaskd.log. Adapt that too. Then just do sudo launchctl load 
 org.projectwonder.wotaskd and wotaskd should run (and keep running)
 
 Have fun
 ---markus---
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd
 plist version=1.0
 dict
   keyDisabled/key
 
   false/
   keyGroupName/key
 
   string_appserveradm/string
   keyLabel/key
 
   stringorg.projectwonder.wotaskd/string
   keyOnDemand/key
 
   false/
   keyProgram/key
   string/ServerApplications/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd/string
   keyProgramArguments/key
 
   array
 
   stringwotaskd/string
 
   string-WOPort/string
 
   string1085/string
 
   string-WOHost/string
 
   stringlocalhost/string
 
   /array
   keyServiceIPC/key
 
   false/
   keyUserName/key
 
   string_appserver/string
   keyStandardOutPath/key
string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
   keyStandardErrorPath/key
string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
 /dict
 /plist
 
 
 
 On 25.04.2015, at 05:00, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 OK - I bit the bullet and upgraded to Yosemite.  Can

Re: wotaskd on Yosemite

[Ken Anderson]

Nevermind - all good now.

The /Library/WebObjects/Logs directory was not write-able by appserver, and was 
clearly pissing everything off.

Thanks for everyones help!

Ken

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 ok - progress!
 
 For some reason, the upgrade to Yosemite got rid of the linked file to the 
 conf file in the adaptors directory.  I didn’t notice until now.  When 
 modWebobjects wasn’t loading, I just added it to the load modules of the main 
 httpd.conf, not thinking that everything else was missing too!
 
 So, now I’m getting “No instance available” - which is definitely progress.  
 Now I get this in the error log:
 
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446126 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] error sending request
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446314 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] error sending request
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.446323 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] Failed to send request
 [Sun Apr 26 08:58:28.451075 2015] [:error] [pid 17179] Request handling 
 error: No instance available
 
 and this in the access_log:
 
 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Apr/2015:08:58:28 -0400] GET 
 /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- HTTP/1.1 500 65
 
 Bogdan, I checked, and WODirectConnectEnabled is false, and WOHost is set to 
 localhost.  I also don’t see any errors in the output of wotaskd.  Any other 
 ideas?
 
 Thanks again,
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, no errors related to mod_Webobjects.  Plus, httpd -M shows it 
 loaded.
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov bogdan.zlata...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bogdan.zlata...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It might be a good idea to check the apache error logs for any problems 
 with mod_WebObjects
 
 On 26/04/2015 14:44, Ken Anderson wrote:
 Thanks Pascal.
 
 Yes, WebObjects_module (shared) appears with httpd -M, and the only place 
 cgi-bin appears is:
 
 IfModule alias_module
 ScriptAliasMatch ^/cgi-bin/((?!(?i:webobjects)).*$) 
 /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/$1”
 /IfModule
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca 
 mailto:prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 That sounds like a ScriptAlias directive problem.
 
 Do:
  httpd -M 
 
 And check for the presence of mod_WebObjects. If it’s there, search for « 
 cgi-bin » in Apache’s config files, you probably have a config that says 
 that anything starting with /cgi-bin will be handled by a specific 
 directory.
 
 Le 2015-04-26 à 08:14, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com a écrit :
 
 Thanks Markus.  Unfortunately, I’ve worked backwards and seem to have 
 more issues than I thought.
 
 I can run wotaskd manually, but I still can’t connect to a WOApp.  I 
 have apache 2.4 running and loading mod_WebObjects.  I can access other 
 things through Apache (like a website built with a virtual host 
 directive).  The syntax of the apache.conf file passes.  I made this 
 change:
 
 Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
 #   Order deny,allow
 #   Deny from all
 /Directory
 
 to comment out the Order and Deny items.
 
 Can anyone think of anything else?  I get a Not Found when trying to 
 reach an app I know is running in Eclipse:
 
 Not Found
 The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- was not 
 found on this server.
 
 I can direct connect to Monitor with localhost:56789 and am setting 
 -WOPort 56789 when launching Monitor.
 
 Anyone have any other thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com wrote:
 
 Put the following as a text file into /Library/LaunchDeamons. You might 
 call it org.projectwonder.wotaskd.plist. Check the location of your 
 wotaskd.woa and adapt the path accordingly. There is also a path to 
 wotaskd.log. Adapt that too. Then just do sudo launchctl load 
 org.projectwonder.wotaskd and wotaskd should run (and keep running)
 
 Have fun
 ---markus---
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd
 plist version=1.0
 dict
   keyDisabled/key
 
   false/
   keyGroupName/key
 
   string_appserveradm/string
   keyLabel/key
 
   stringorg.projectwonder.wotaskd/string
   keyOnDemand/key
 
   false/
   keyProgram/key
   string/ServerApplications/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd/string
   keyProgramArguments/key
 
   array
 
   stringwotaskd/string
 
   string-WOPort/string
 
   string1085/string
 
   string-WOHost/string
 
   stringlocalhost/string
 
   /array
   keyServiceIPC/key
 
   false/
   keyUserName/key
 
   string_appserver/string
   keyStandardOutPath/key

Re: wotaskd on Yosemite

[Ken Anderson]

Thanks Markus.  Unfortunately, I’ve worked backwards and seem to have more 
issues than I thought.

I can run wotaskd manually, but I still can’t connect to a WOApp.  I have 
apache 2.4 running and loading mod_WebObjects.  I can access other things 
through Apache (like a website built with a virtual host directive).  The 
syntax of the apache.conf file passes.  I made this change:

Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
 #   Order deny,allow
 #   Deny from all
/Directory

to comment out the Order and Deny items.

Can anyone think of anything else?  I get a Not Found when trying to reach an 
app I know is running in Eclipse:

Not Found
The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- was not found on 
this server.

I can direct connect to Monitor with localhost:56789 and am setting -WOPort 
56789 when launching Monitor.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

Thanks!

Ken


 On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 wrote:
 
 Put the following as a text file into /Library/LaunchDeamons. You might call 
 it org.projectwonder.wotaskd.plist. Check the location of your wotaskd.woa 
 and adapt the path accordingly. There is also a path to wotaskd.log. Adapt 
 that too. Then just do sudo launchctl load org.projectwonder.wotaskd and 
 wotaskd should run (and keep running)
 
 Have fun
 ---markus---
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd;
 plist version=1.0
 dict
keyDisabled/key
   false/
keyGroupName/key
   string_appserveradm/string
keyLabel/key
   stringorg.projectwonder.wotaskd/string
keyOnDemand/key
   false/
keyProgram/key
string/ServerApplications/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd/string
keyProgramArguments/key
   array
   stringwotaskd/string
   string-WOPort/string
   string1085/string
   string-WOHost/string
   stringlocalhost/string
   /array
keyServiceIPC/key
   false/
keyUserName/key
   string_appserver/string
keyStandardOutPath/key
   string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
keyStandardErrorPath/key
   string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
 /dict
 /plist
 
 
 
 On 25.04.2015, at 05:00, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 OK - I bit the bullet and upgraded to Yosemite.  Can someone remind me how 
 to get wotaskd running again?  I have java installed and other things that 
 used to run are running (jenkins, crashplan), but no wotaskd.
 
 Thanks,
 Ken
 
 
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Re: wotaskd on Yosemite

[Ken Anderson]

Thanks Pascal.

Yes, WebObjects_module (shared) appears with httpd -M, and the only place 
cgi-bin appears is:

IfModule alias_module
ScriptAliasMatch ^/cgi-bin/((?!(?i:webobjects)).*$) 
/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/$1”
/IfModule


 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 That sounds like a ScriptAlias directive problem.
 
 Do:
  httpd -M 
 
 And check for the presence of mod_WebObjects. If it’s there, search for « 
 cgi-bin » in Apache’s config files, you probably have a config that says that 
 anything starting with /cgi-bin will be handled by a specific directory.
 
 Le 2015-04-26 à 08:14, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com a écrit :
 
 Thanks Markus.  Unfortunately, I’ve worked backwards and seem to have more 
 issues than I thought.
 
 I can run wotaskd manually, but I still can’t connect to a WOApp.  I have 
 apache 2.4 running and loading mod_WebObjects.  I can access other things 
 through Apache (like a website built with a virtual host directive).  The 
 syntax of the apache.conf file passes.  I made this change:
 
 Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
 #   Order deny,allow
 #   Deny from all
 /Directory
 
 to comment out the Order and Deny items.
 
 Can anyone think of anything else?  I get a Not Found when trying to reach 
 an app I know is running in Eclipse:
 
 Not Found
 The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- was not found 
 on this server.
 
 I can direct connect to Monitor with localhost:56789 and am setting -WOPort 
 56789 when launching Monitor.
 
 Anyone have any other thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 wrote:
 
 Put the following as a text file into /Library/LaunchDeamons. You might 
 call it org.projectwonder.wotaskd.plist. Check the location of your 
 wotaskd.woa and adapt the path accordingly. There is also a path to 
 wotaskd.log. Adapt that too. Then just do sudo launchctl load 
 org.projectwonder.wotaskd and wotaskd should run (and keep running)
 
 Have fun
 ---markus---
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd;
 plist version=1.0
 dict
   keyDisabled/key
 false/
   keyGroupName/key
 string_appserveradm/string
   keyLabel/key
 stringorg.projectwonder.wotaskd/string
   keyOnDemand/key
 false/
   keyProgram/key
   string/ServerApplications/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd/string
   keyProgramArguments/key
 array
 stringwotaskd/string
 string-WOPort/string
 string1085/string
 string-WOHost/string
 stringlocalhost/string
 /array
   keyServiceIPC/key
 false/
   keyUserName/key
 string_appserver/string
   keyStandardOutPath/key
 string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
   keyStandardErrorPath/key
 string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
 /dict
 /plist
 
 
 
 On 25.04.2015, at 05:00, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 OK - I bit the bullet and upgraded to Yosemite.  Can someone remind me how 
 to get wotaskd running again?  I have java installed and other things that 
 used to run are running (jenkins, crashplan), but no wotaskd.
 
 Thanks,
 Ken
 
 
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Re: wotaskd on Yosemite

[Ken Anderson]

Unfortunately, no errors related to mod_Webobjects.  Plus, httpd -M shows it 
loaded.

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov bogdan.zlata...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It might be a good idea to check the apache error logs for any problems with 
 mod_WebObjects
 
 On 26/04/2015 14:44, Ken Anderson wrote:
 Thanks Pascal.
 
 Yes, WebObjects_module (shared) appears with httpd -M, and the only place 
 cgi-bin appears is:
 
 IfModule alias_module
 ScriptAliasMatch ^/cgi-bin/((?!(?i:webobjects)).*$) 
 /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/$1”
 /IfModule
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca 
 mailto:prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 That sounds like a ScriptAlias directive problem.
 
 Do:
  httpd -M 
 
 And check for the presence of mod_WebObjects. If it’s there, search for « 
 cgi-bin » in Apache’s config files, you probably have a config that says 
 that anything starting with /cgi-bin will be handled by a specific 
 directory.
 
 Le 2015-04-26 à 08:14, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com a écrit :
 
 Thanks Markus.  Unfortunately, I’ve worked backwards and seem to have more 
 issues than I thought.
 
 I can run wotaskd manually, but I still can’t connect to a WOApp.  I have 
 apache 2.4 running and loading mod_WebObjects.  I can access other things 
 through Apache (like a website built with a virtual host directive).  The 
 syntax of the apache.conf file passes.  I made this change:
 
 Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
 #   Order deny,allow
 #   Deny from all
 /Directory
 
 to comment out the Order and Deny items.
 
 Can anyone think of anything else?  I get a Not Found when trying to reach 
 an app I know is running in Eclipse:
 
 Not Found
 The requested URL /cgi-bin/WebObjects/FitnotixMaint.woa/- was not 
 found on this server.
 
 I can direct connect to Monitor with localhost:56789 and am setting 
 -WOPort 56789 when launching Monitor.
 
 Anyone have any other thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ken
 
 
 On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com wrote:
 
 Put the following as a text file into /Library/LaunchDeamons. You might 
 call it org.projectwonder.wotaskd.plist. Check the location of your 
 wotaskd.woa and adapt the path accordingly. There is also a path to 
 wotaskd.log. Adapt that too. Then just do sudo launchctl load 
 org.projectwonder.wotaskd and wotaskd should run (and keep running)
 
 Have fun
 ---markus---
 
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd 
 http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd
 plist version=1.0
 dict
   keyDisabled/key
 
   false/
   keyGroupName/key
 
   string_appserveradm/string
   keyLabel/key
 
   stringorg.projectwonder.wotaskd/string
   keyOnDemand/key
 
   false/
   keyProgram/key
   string/ServerApplications/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd/string
   keyProgramArguments/key
 
   array
 
   stringwotaskd/string
 
   string-WOPort/string
 
   string1085/string
 
   string-WOHost/string
 
   stringlocalhost/string
 
   /array
   keyServiceIPC/key
 
   false/
   keyUserName/key
 
   string_appserver/string
   keyStandardOutPath/key
string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
   keyStandardErrorPath/key
string/Library/WebObjects/Logs/wotaskd.log/string
 /dict
 /plist
 
 
 
 On 25.04.2015, at 05:00, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 mailto:kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 OK - I bit the bullet and upgraded to Yosemite.  Can someone remind me 
 how to get wotaskd running again?  I have java installed and other 
 things that used to run are running (jenkins, crashplan), but no wotaskd.
 
 Thanks,
 Ken
 
 
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[Ken Anderson]

OK - I bit the bullet and upgraded to Yosemite.  Can someone remind me how to 
get wotaskd running again?  I have java installed and other things that used to 
run are running (jenkins, crashplan), but no wotaskd.

Thanks,
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Re: Help on webobjects

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No issues here:

;  DiG 9.8.3-P1  learningthewonders.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46104
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;learningthewonders.com.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
learningthewonders.com. 10800   IN  A   213.189.151.242

;; Query time: 454 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 22 16:41:56 2015
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 56


Ken

 On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 wrote:
 
 I really don't understand what's going on here. learningthewonders.com and 
 several other domains reside on the very same Mac mini behind the same IP. 
 The same Mac mini also provides authoritative DNS for this and other domains. 
 And it acts as mail server (so I can receive your mails). I'll have to look 
 into these things, but first I'll be going to WOWODC.
 
 Can you check which DNS server your system tries to query when you cannot 
 resolve the address? I do know that ns1.schumi.ch has some problems with its 
 DNS service. Could it be that your resolver only tries this address and then 
 gives up? I am confused
 
 Have fun with Wonder anyway (hey, it can only get better...). Hope the 
 instructions for setting up the environment make sense for you.
 ---markus---
 
 
 On 21.04.2015, at 15:44, Patrick Robinson p...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 Ah, yes, that's it.  So I added:
 
 213.189.151.242 learningthewonders.com
 
 to /etc/hosts, and could then download it.
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 4:47 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:
 
 It looks like there are DNS issues with that domain:
 
 https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/learningthewonders.com
 
 D
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Patrick Robinson p...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 Hi Markus,
 
 I was going to suggest to someone that they look at your sample chapters 
 (re: installation), but the domain name learningthewonders.com doesn't 
 seem to be registered.  Even worse, the authoritative name servers for the 
 domain (ns1.schumi.ch and ns2.rucotec.ch) don't seem to exist, either!  Is 
 there maybe another location for your online chapters?
 
 - Patrick
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com 
 wrote:
 
 The first chapters of the book are available online for free. They cover 
 the complete installation of the develop environment on Mac OS X and MS 
 Windows. Download as PDF available from http://learningthewonders.com
 
 Have fun with Wonder/WebObjects
 
 ---markus---
 
 PS: Full disclouse: I am the author of said book
 
 On 03.04.2015, at 21:28, HOUNKPONOU Ronald ronald.hounkpo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for your help Theodore.
 I in West Africa, precisely in Benin.
 
 2015-04-03 20:19 GMT+01:00 Theodore Petrosky tedp...@yahoo.com:
 Here is another recent book. I didn’t see it listed in Ramsey’s reply.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Learning-The-Wonders-introduction-applications/dp/3952423300
 
 This book gives a wonderful (forgive the pun) example of installation of 
 the frameworks.
 
 BTW, where are you? What part of the world?
 
 Ted
 
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m afraid there’s no substitute for lots of reading :)
 
 If I were you, I’d start with David LeBer’s screen casts WebObjects, 
 WOLips and Wonder tutorial, part 1 and 2 found here
 
 https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Screencasts
 
 That will give you a gentle introduction to WebObjects. There’s quite a 
 lot of documentation to read
 
 https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/JavaDoc+and+other+documentation
 
 Unlike other Java solutions, WebObjects is a full stack solution. 
 Whereas something like Apache Tapestry only tries to solve html 
 generation issues or Apache Cayenne only tries to handle database 
 issues or Jetty is just a deployment container, WebObjects is all of 
 that and then some.
 
 Everyone goes through this. It’s called “The learning cliff” because 
 it’s much steeper than a typical learning curve. If you don’t 
 familiarize yourself with what is available, then you’ll no doubt end 
 up trying to reinvent something that already exists in WebObjects. That 
 you even got my application template running with no other knowledge of 
 WebObjects is pretty amazing to me. When I started, it took me nearly a 
 month just to get Eclipse/WOLips/WebObjects/Wonder all installed and 
 working properly.
 
 I’ll copy the list on this reply. I know several people who follow it 
 who will probably have other good advice/recommended reading for 
 someone just getting started.
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:30 AM, HOUNKPONOU Ronald 
 ronald.hounkpo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ramsey,
 I hope y're fine.
 I'am writing to you to request your help for learning webobjects.
 
 I have a good background in java programming but it's the first time 
 i'am dealing with webobjetcs.
 
 So i would like you to help me by indexing the good 

Re: in another EC, when objects transferred through GIDs, owning relationship does not delete objects?!?

[Ken Anderson]

A couple of things that stand out for me…

First, why are you expecting the object to be deleted when you just remove it 
from the relationship?

Second, have you removed calls to lock() and unlock(), or are you not calling 
them?

Ken

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, OC o...@ocs.cz wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 I've bumped into rather a weird (at least to me) behaviour. Is this normal 
 and am I just overlooking something by expecting it to work?
 
 I've noticed lately that my background tasks (each of which uses its own EC) 
 stopped to delete old objects. Pursuing the culprit, I have found that it 
 began when I (by Ramsey's advice) stopped moving objects betwixt those ECs 
 using localInstanceIn, replacing it by explicit globalID-based creation 
 (only, by Chuck's advice, I am using faultForGlobalID instead of 
 ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.fetchObjectWithGlobalID).
 
 I am able to repeat the problem e.g., this way:
 
 === launched very early in Application, no session/component created yet ===
  def ec=ERXEC.newEditingContext()
  def auction=EOUtilities.objectWithPrimaryKeyValue(ec,'DBAuction',103)
  def records=auction.importedRecords()
  println owning rel: 
 ${auction.ownsDestinationObjectsForRelationshipKey('importedRecords')} 
 inverse '${auction.inverseForRelationshipKey('importedRecords')}' 
 #$records.count // just to make sure it's all right
  def lr=records.lastObject()
  println -- in 'default' EC removing $lr from $auction...
  lr.removeObjectFromBothSidesOfRelationshipWithKey(auction,'auction')
  auction.editingContext().saveChanges() // my delegate logs out all adaptor 
 ops: this does delete all right
 
  def ec2=ERXEC.newEditingContext(new EOObjectStoreCoordinator())
  auction=ec2.faultForGlobalID(auction.permanentGlobalID(),ec2) // this is how 
 I 'move' objects to background tasks...
  lr=ec2.faultForGlobalID(records.lastObject().permanentGlobalID(),ec2) // ... 
 is it indeed the right way?
  println -- in EC in extra OSC removing $lr from $auction...
  lr.removeObjectFromBothSidesOfRelationshipWithKey(auction,'auction')
  auction.editingContext().saveChanges() // for this one DOES NOT delete, see 
 the logs below!
 ===
 
 This code -- along with the logs in 
 databaseContextWillPerformAdaptorOperations -- prints out this:
 
 ===
 owning rel: true inverse 'auction' #2
 -- in 'default' EC removing DBRecord@1532707037 PK:1004656 /EC:829232957 
 from DBAuction@357286753 PK:103 /EC:829232957...
 - 1: DELETE on 'DBRecord' (uid = 1004656)
 -- in EC in extra OSC removing DBRecord@2038388710 PK:1004657 /EC:489384291 
 from DBAuction@325329592 PK:103 /EC:489384291...
 - 1: UPDATE on 'DBRecord' (uid = 1004657) 
 1{auction_id:com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Null}
 ===
 
 Does it make any sense?
 
 Note: if I replace the 'lr.removeObjectFromBothSidesOfRelationshipWithKey' by 
 ec2.deleteObject(lr), it works all right, deleting the record in both cases.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Pre-fetching

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setPrefetchingRelationshipKeyPaths(NSArray paths)


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 I know how to set up pre fetching in a model based fetch spec.  How does one 
 do this programmatically?
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Re: way too many SELECTs?

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This is certainly odd behavior - something else must be going on.

In your example (a) will always happen - EOF will fault in relationships before 
adding objects to them.  But, once that relationship is there, it should stay 
in that EO until some kind of invalidation happens.

Any chance you could post all the code?

Ken

On Feb 14, 2015, at 8:24 AM, OC o...@ocs.cz wrote:

 Hello there,
 
 as Alice said, it gets couriouser and couriouser. I am now logging SQL, and 
 -- at least to me -- it seems my application is SELECTing way too often.
 
 The code is still related to the price offers of my previous posts; this time 
 though I am using the default EC and I am not setting fetchTimestamp.
 
 I am creating new objects in an entity DBPriceOffer and adding them to 1:N 
 relationship of an entity DBUser -- all of them to the same user.
 
 Now, what I would (naïvely?) assume is that
 (a) the first time this happens, the user's price offers _might be_ fetched 
 (not necessarily, but possibly)
 (b) nevertheless, when they _are_ once fetched into the EC, they won't be 
 re-fetched anytime soon, for EC caches them and EOF does not make unnecessary 
 roundtrips to the DB.
 
 They get re-fetched though -- each sweet time again, with the same EC, no 
 fetchTimestamp. My app never refaults nor refreshes anything. There's about 
 95 % free heap, so there should be no flushing of soft caches, if WO uses 
 them at all. My current code looks like this:
 
 ===
DBPriceOffer o=new DBPriceOffer()
createdBy.editingContext.insertObject(o)
 ...
 println WEIRD 27 newo: $o, creator: $createdBy // EC:${o.editingContext()} 
 (FTS:${(System.currentTimeMillis()-o.editingContext().fetchTimestamp())/1000} 
 s)
 o.addObjectToBothSidesOfRelationshipWithKey(createdBy,'user')
 //createdBy.addObjectToBothSidesOfRelationshipWithKey(o,'priceOffers') // 
 tried this too, works precisely same way
 println WEIRD 31
 ===
 
 and adding price offers through this code _always_ re-fetches the user's 
 relationship into which they are being added:
 
 ===
 WEIRD 27 newo: DBPriceOffer@1247321477 PK:null N /EC:176991315, creator: 
 DBUser@2069151341 PK:108 Name:'cl' /EC:176991315 // 
 EC:er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@a8cac53 (FTS:3996.348 s)
 14:09:16.912 DEBUG  evaluateExpression: 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.FrontbasePlugIn$FrontbaseExpression: SELECT ... 
 FROM T_PRICE_OFFER t0 WHERE t0.C_CREATOR_ID = 108 withBindings: 
 14:09:16.922 DEBUG 179 row(s) processed
 WEIRD 31
 ...
 WEIRD 27 newo: DBPriceOffer@81493054 PK:null N /EC:176991315, creator: 
 DBUser@2069151341 PK:108 Name:'cl' /EC:176991315 // 
 EC:er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@a8cac53 (FTS:4001.53 s)
 14:09:22.090 DEBUG  evaluateExpression: 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.FrontbasePlugIn$FrontbaseExpression: SELECT ... 
 FROM T_PRICE_OFFER t0 WHERE t0.C_CREATOR_ID = 108 withBindings: 
 14:09:22.099 DEBUG 180 row(s) processed
 WEIRD 31
 ...
 WEIRD 27 newo: DBPriceOffer@1879220176 PK:null N /EC:176991315, creator: 
 DBUser@2069151341 PK:108 Name:'cl /EC:176991315 // 
 EC:er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@a8cac53 (FTS:4006.075 s)
 14:09:26.635 DEBUG  evaluateExpression: 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.FrontbasePlugIn$FrontbaseExpression: SELECT ... 
 FROM T_PRICE_OFFER t0 WHERE t0.C_CREATOR_ID = 108 withBindings: 
 14:09:26.643 DEBUG 181 row(s) processed
 WEIRD 31
 ...
 ===
 
 and so forth: whenever I add a new price offer into the same user's 1:N 
 relationship, the price offers of that user get re-fetched again.
 
 I'm flabbergasted. Is this the normal WebObjects (or, rather, EOF) behaviour? 
 Am I missing something of importance?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: pre-render and cache a component?

[Ken Anderson]

Take a look at ERMailDelivery, it does the same thing.



 On Feb 13, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com wrote:
 
 Off the top of my head, you need to create a new WOContext and use the 
 WOApplication pageWithName(String, WOContext) method.
 
 Chuck
 
 On 2015-02-13, 9:54 AM, OC wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 is it possible to pre-render a component to HTML string, and cache that 
 string?
 
 I thought this code would work:
 
 === code ===
 ...
 private String cache=null
 String componentContent {
   if (!cache) {
 def component=pageWithName(COMPONENT_NAME)
 component.awake()
 WOResponse nr=component.generateResponse()
 cache=nr.contentString()
   }
   return cache
 }
 ...
 === HTML ===
 ...
 wo:str value=$componentContent escapeHTML=NO/
 ...
 ===
 
 but it does not -- it messes up my current context, it seems.
 
 Thanks for any advice,
 OC
 
 
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Re: EOModeler, search with Array

[Ken Anderson]

Daniel,

You can use the in method of the ERXKEY like this:

NSArrayBrand brands = new NSArrayBrand(new Brand[] {vw, audi, bmw});
Car.BRAND.in(brands);

This still generates an OR qualifier, but it’s prettier.

Ken


On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Daniel Hausberger danielhausber...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi Experts,
 i'm strugeling around with an (i think so) easy problem: What is the right 
 way to make an Qualifier (for a Fetch-Specification in EOModeler) to not 
 search with just one single Object, but with a list of objects:
  
 For example this model:
  
 1 Car-Brand produces many Cars (e.g. VW procudes Jetta, Golf, Passat, 
 etc.)
  
 If i want to search all Cars for VW my qualifier looks something like: 
  
 brand = $carBrand   ... (eg. Car.fetchForList(ec, brandVW);)
  
 But was is the correct way to search for a list of brands? e.g: What is the 
 correct way to search for all Cars of VW, Audi, etc.?
  
 I know that it is possible to search something like this:
  
 brand = $carBrand1 or brand = $carBrand2, etc. (e.g. 
 Car.fetchForList(ec, brandVW, brandAudi, etc.);).
  
 But this is not the best way?
  
 Thank you,
  
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Re: EOModeler, search with Array

[Ken Anderson]

Daniel,

I should have asked, but you’re using WOnder, right?  I use WOnder and 
templates that generate a lot of good stuff.  Are you generating _Entity and 
Entity files?

Assuming you are, you can use some of the convenience methods, like:

NSArrayCar = Car.fetchCars(editingContext, Car.BRAND.in(brands), null);

You can do all of this without the templates, but you really need ERXKEY to 
generate the qualifier for you.

Ken


 On Feb 12, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Daniel Hausberger danielhausber...@gmx.de 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 thank you for your reply. This looks exactly like the thing i have looked 
 for, but i have no idea how to use this?
  
 How do i get a list of Cars with the ERXOrQualifier? Sorry for this question, 
 but i have never done it like this before.
  
 Can you help me?
 Thanks,
 Daniel
  
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 um 17:06 Uhr
 Von: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com
 An: Daniel Hausberger danielhausber...@gmx.de
 Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Betreff: Re: EOModeler, search with Array
 Daniel,
  
 You can use the in method of the ERXKEY like this:
  
 NSArrayBrand brands = new NSArrayBrand(new Brand[] {vw, audi, bmw});
 Car.BRAND.in(brands);
  
 This still generates an OR qualifier, but it’s prettier.
  
 Ken
  
  
 On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Daniel Hausberger danielhausber...@gmx.de 
 x-msg://62/danielhausber...@gmx.de wrote:
  
 Hi Experts,
 i'm strugeling around with an (i think so) easy problem: What is the right 
 way to make an Qualifier (for a Fetch-Specification in EOModeler) to not 
 search with just one single Object, but with a list of objects:
  
 For example this model:
  
 1 Car-Brand produces many Cars (e.g. VW procudes Jetta, Golf, Passat, 
 etc.)
  
 If i want to search all Cars for VW my qualifier looks something like: 
  
 brand = $carBrand   ... (eg. Car.fetchForList(ec, brandVW);)
  
 But was is the correct way to search for a list of brands? e.g: What is the 
 correct way to search for all Cars of VW, Audi, etc.?
  
 I know that it is possible to search something like this:
  
 brand = $carBrand1 or brand = $carBrand2, etc. (e.g. 
 Car.fetchForList(ec, brandVW, brandAudi, etc.);).
  
 But this is not the best way?
  
 Thank you,
  
 Daniel
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Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source

[Ken Anderson]

Nobody cares about WOnder anymore?  You feeling OK Pascal?

On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 I guess it will be in the not-very-open TreasureBoard. Nobody cares about 
 Wonder anymore.
 
 - Mail original -
 De: Daniel D CIV NAVAIR Beatty, 474300D daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 À: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Février 2015 16:07:11
 Objet: RE: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
 
 Hi gang,
 I seem to remember talk amongst the project wonder gang that we might 
 actually refactor Wonder to use a pseudo-web-objects.   If looks like WO, 
 smells like WO, but legally not WO could Wonder be the owner?
 
 V/R,
 
 Daniel Beatty, Ph.D., 
 IEEE Certified Software Development Professional (CSDP)
 Computer Scientist
 Code 474300D
 1 Administration Circle. M/S 1109
 China Lake, CA 93555
 daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 (760)939-7097 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com 
 [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com] On 
 Behalf Of Troy Lumasag
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:15 PM
 To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Subject: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
 
 Hey guys,
 
 What really are the problems - direct, impending or long term problems being 
 as it is now?
 I can recall these stated problems if I understood it correct:
 1. porting issues(moving to future java versions) 2. single-threaded editing 
 context - Must be a bottleneck problem for multiple instance setup?
 
 Sorry if I'm being naive on my question haha
 
 --Troy
 
 On 2/5/2015 11:55 AM, Timothy Worman wrote:
 WebObjects is one of Apple’s weapons - it helps them be fluid and quick - 
 especially with the devs they have. Maybe open sourcing WO seems threatening 
 because it is a internal business advantage.
 
 Tim Worman
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:59 PM, OC o...@ocs.cz wrote:
 
 On 5. 2. 2015, at 1:42, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is wrote:
 Apple cares about money, not us.
 Oh, absolutely! Given the zilliards Apple charges for WebObjects 
 licences... oh, wait.
 
 Actually I just don't get it -- for long long years I don't get it at all.
 
 (i) first, they seriously cripple the world's best web application 
 framework by cutting out the ObjC support, leaving it Java-only, and thus 
 half-unusable.
 
 (ii) then they stop bundling it.
 
 (iii) then they stop supporting it at all.
 
 All right, I can see after (i) they could hardly charge any money for 
 licencing, whilst the support price would skyrocket; but why on earth not 
 put it to open source at the same moment?!?
 
 The same company who is known to put _lots_ of pretty interesting things to 
 public (see Darwin).
 
 Oh, sigh.
 
 About the only (dumb and conspirational) theory I can think of is 
 that were the sources open, hacking App Store would get the usual 
 'varsity freaks pastime :)
 
 - hugi
 
 
 
 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-op
 en-source.aspx
 
 The github is here
 
 https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr
 
 It’s a shame Apple never did the same with WO.
 
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Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source

[Ken Anderson]

I still use the regular distribution…

On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 And no leadership. Also, at WOWODC 2014, almost everyone said that they are 
 using their own forks.
 
 De: Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com
 À: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca
 Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Février 2015 16:42:00
 Objet: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
 
 I think he means there have not been a lot of new additions or work done on 
 it lately.
 
 
 
 On 2015-02-05, 1:13 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
 
 Nobody cares about WOnder anymore?  You feeling OK Pascal?
 
 On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 I guess it will be in the not-very-open TreasureBoard. Nobody cares about 
 Wonder anymore.
 
 - Mail original -
 De: Daniel D CIV NAVAIR Beatty, 474300D daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 À: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Février 2015 16:07:11
 Objet: RE: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
 
 Hi gang,
 I seem to remember talk amongst the project wonder gang that we might 
 actually refactor Wonder to use a pseudo-web-objects.   If looks like WO, 
 smells like WO, but legally not WO could Wonder be the owner?
 
 V/R,
 
 Daniel Beatty, Ph.D., 
 IEEE Certified Software Development Professional (CSDP)
 Computer Scientist
 Code 474300D
 1 Administration Circle. M/S 1109
 China Lake, CA 93555
 daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 (760)939-7097 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com 
 [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com] On 
 Behalf Of Troy Lumasag
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:15 PM
 To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Subject: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
 
 Hey guys,
 
 What really are the problems - direct, impending or long term problems being 
 as it is now?
 I can recall these stated problems if I understood it correct:
 1. porting issues(moving to future java versions) 2. single-threaded editing 
 context - Must be a bottleneck problem for multiple instance setup?
 
 Sorry if I'm being naive on my question haha
 
 --Troy
 
 On 2/5/2015 11:55 AM, Timothy Worman wrote:
 WebObjects is one of Apple’s weapons - it helps them be fluid and quick - 
 especially with the devs they have. Maybe open sourcing WO seems threatening 
 because it is a internal business advantage.
 
 Tim Worman
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:59 PM, OC o...@ocs.cz wrote:
 
 On 5. 2. 2015, at 1:42, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is wrote:
 Apple cares about money, not us.
 Oh, absolutely! Given the zilliards Apple charges for WebObjects licences... 
 oh, wait.
 
 Actually I just don't get it -- for long long years I don't get it at all.
 
 (i) first, they seriously cripple the world's best web application framework 
 by cutting out the ObjC support, leaving it Java-only, and thus half-unusable.
 
 (ii) then they stop bundling it.
 
 (iii) then they stop supporting it at all.
 
 All right, I can see after (i) they could hardly charge any money for 
 licencing, whilst the support price would skyrocket; but why on earth not put 
 it to open source at the same moment?!?
 
 The same company who is known to put _lots_ of pretty interesting things to 
 public (see Darwin).
 
 Oh, sigh.
 
 About the only (dumb and conspirational) theory I can think of is 
 that were the sources open, hacking App Store would get the usual 
 'varsity freaks pastime :)
 
 - hugi
 
 
 
 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-op
 en-source.aspx
 
 The github is here
 
 https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr
 
 It’s a shame Apple never did the same with WO.
 
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Re: WOWODC 2015

[Ken Anderson]

I would really like to go, but airfare is quite expensive…  I’m monitoring the 
prices to see if they go down.

On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:47 PM, jazz jazzsa...@me.com wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 Who is going to WOWODC from the US/Canada? So far I see only European
 people who confirmed. Besides Aaron and Ken.
 
 Regards, Bart
 
 
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Re: multi-instance: orphaned fault

[Ken Anderson]

Is there a reason you’re storing the result of the relationship instead of the 
source?  If you stored one level up, you’d properly get a null result instead 
of a stale fault.



On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:01 PM, OC o...@ocs.cz wrote:

 Hello there,
 
 I've just bumped into a new problem. Unless I am doing something wrong, it 
 does not seem the remote synchronizer helps in this scenario; and I wonder, 
 whether there are some well-known and common tricks to solve it in general?
 
 The scenario is quite plain:
 
 (a) instance A gets and stores (typically into some sort of cache, but a 
 plain component property suffices[*]) a relationship of some EO for the first 
 time. Thus, it, in fact, gets and stores a fault;
 
 (b) instance B updates some EO to clean up the relationship and deletes the 
 target object.
 
 - the Remote Synchronizer does make sure that some EO's relationship is 
 NULL now in instance A;
 - nevertheless, it does not do anything at all with the stored fault
 
 (c) instance A uses the stored EO (which its code essentialy does not know 
 is a fault) -- and oops, it gets 
 DatabaseContextDelegate.databaseContextFailedToFetchObject.
 
 (Well one wonders, whether this might be the reason why WebObjects by 
 themselves do not throw when a fault fails, but try to re-construct the 
 object _somehow_)
 
 Anyway, to be quite frank, I don't see a decent solution of this problem? If 
 I wrote my code afresh, I could make sure this never happens, but since I've 
 got zillions of legacy Java lines in my project (which might store faults 
 freely, after all, that's what faults are for), I don't see a solution which 
 would ensure my application can't fail and either work improperly or report 
 weird errors to users.
 
 Has anybody already found a decent solution of this problem (save for 
 “re-writing all the legacy code”, which, albeit of course optimal, is sort of 
 not manageable any time soon)?
 
 Thanks a lot,
 OC
 
 ===
 [*] like with a very plain code -- the real cases are much more complex, but 
 this one suffices to show the problem
 
 class MyComponent extends ERXComponent {
  SomeEOClass stored;
  public MyComponent(WOContext context) {
super(context);
stored=someEO.someRelationship();
  }
  public WOComponent nowUseIt() {
println $stored
  }
 }
 
 
 
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Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.4 binary

[Ken Anderson]

+1^2 !

On Jan 14, 2015, at 10:54 AM, John Huss johnth...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anyone has a build of WOLips for Eclipse 4.4 that mostly works, can you 
 provide a binary?  I don't really want to build my own, and I bet many others 
 would also appreciate it.
 
 Thanks,
 John 
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Re: Practical WebObjects book ???

[Ken Anderson]

If you get Chuck to do it, I’ll contribute!

 On Jan 8, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How many beers will it take to get a book on tape version?
 
 -Lon
 
 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@gevityinc.com 
 mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com wrote:
 There is an official PDF:
 http://www.apress.com/9781590592960 http://www.apress.com/9781590592960
 
 
 
 On 2015-01-08, 1:14 PM, Theodore Petrosky wrote:
 
 
 Was there (is there) a pdf version of this book. I have two copies (office 
 and home), but they are too fragile to carry in my bag. If there were a PDF 
 on the other hand.
 
 has anyone seen this?
 
 Ted
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Re: locking DB through a dedicated lock table

[Ken Anderson]

Can you explain your use case a little more?

In my experience, locking records through a database creates more work and 
doesn’t really solve the problem.  Under what circumstances do you need these 
locks?

Ken


On Jan 3, 2015, at 1:52 PM, OC o...@ocs.cz wrote:

 Hello there,
 
 I'm about to implement the support for reliable both inter- and 
 intra-instance locking; most probably based on a separate table with 
 different rows for different „locks“, or something like that.
 
 Presumably this is one case where fixed PKs are beneficial (so that two 
 instances can't insert same lock row at once). Before I dive into all the 
 possible race conditions and other gotchas, I wonder -- this being a pretty 
 common need, isn't there somewhere already implemented appropriate support in 
 WOnder?
 
 Thanks,
 OC
 
 
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Re: Facebook login component?

[Ken Anderson]

All good Amedeo, thanks… I dusted off my javascript and worked it out :)

Ken


On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Amedeo Mantica amedeomant...@me.com wrote:

 I did time ago, if u still need I can send you the code
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2014, at 22:25, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I’ve got a short lived component need where a direct action page result 
 should allow the user to login to EITHER their account, or via Facebook.  FB 
 uses javascript and a callback to do their web login, which gives me a 
 headache.
 
 An suggestions as the best way to handle this?  One way I tried was to have 
 the Facebook callback switch to a new page through a new direct action.  
 That works, but it’s not pretty and doesn’t really solve the manual login 
 problem (which I would think would need some state, since a need a round 
 trip for my own login ID validation).
 
 Any thoughts or best practices to mix regular WO with Facebook JS?
 
 Thanks,
 Ken
 
 
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Facebook login component?

[Ken Anderson]

All,

I’ve got a short lived component need where a direct action page result should 
allow the user to login to EITHER their account, or via Facebook.  FB uses 
javascript and a callback to do their web login, which gives me a headache.

An suggestions as the best way to handle this?  One way I tried was to have the 
Facebook callback switch to a new page through a new direct action.  That 
works, but it’s not pretty and doesn’t really solve the manual login problem 
(which I would think would need some state, since a need a round trip for my 
own login ID validation).

Any thoughts or best practices to mix regular WO with Facebook JS?

Thanks,
Ken


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