Nobody cares about WOnder anymore?  You feeling OK Pascal?

On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca> wrote:

> I guess it will be in the not-very-open TreasureBoard. Nobody cares about 
> Wonder anymore.
> 
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> De: "Daniel D CIV NAVAIR Beatty, 474300D" <daniel.bea...@navy.mil>
> À: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Février 2015 16:07:11
> Objet: RE: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
> 
> Hi gang,
> I seem to remember talk amongst the project wonder gang that we might 
> actually refactor Wonder to use a pseudo-web-objects.   If looks like WO, 
> smells like WO, but legally not WO could Wonder be the owner?
> 
> V/R,
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com 
> [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com] On 
> Behalf Of Troy Lumasag
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:15 PM
> To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
> Subject: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> What really are the problems - direct, impending or long term problems being 
> as it is now?
> I can recall these stated problems if I understood it correct:
> 1. porting issues(moving to future java versions) 2. single-threaded editing 
> context <- Must be a bottleneck problem for multiple instance setup?
> 
> Sorry if I'm being naive on my question haha
> 
> --Troy
> 
> On 2/5/2015 11:55 AM, Timothy Worman wrote:
>> WebObjects is one of Apple’s weapons - it helps them be fluid and quick - 
>> especially with the devs they have. Maybe open sourcing WO seems threatening 
>> because it is a internal business advantage.
>> 
>> Tim Worman
>> UCLA GSE&IS
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:59 PM, OC <o...@ocs.cz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 5. 2. 2015, at 1:42, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>>>> Apple cares about money, not us.
>>> Oh, absolutely! Given the zilliards Apple charges for WebObjects 
>>> licences... oh, wait.
>>> 
>>> Actually I just don't get it -- for long long years I don't get it at all.
>>> 
>>> (i) first, they seriously cripple the world's best web application 
>>> framework by cutting out the ObjC support, leaving it Java-only, and thus 
>>> half-unusable.
>>> 
>>> (ii) then they stop bundling it.
>>> 
>>> (iii) then they stop supporting it at all.
>>> 
>>> All right, I can see after (i) they could hardly charge any money for 
>>> licencing, whilst the support price would skyrocket; but why on earth not 
>>> put it to open source at the same moment?!?
>>> 
>>> The same company who is known to put _lots_ of pretty interesting things to 
>>> public (see Darwin).
>>> 
>>> Oh, sigh.
>>> 
>>> About the only (dumb and conspirational) theory I can think of is 
>>> that were the sources open, hacking App Store would get the usual 
>>> 'varsity freaks pastime :)
>>> 
>>>> - hugi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-op
>>>>> en-source.aspx
>>>>> 
>>>>> The github is here
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s a shame Apple never did the same with WO.
>>>> 
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