Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Ralf Schuchardt via Webobjects-dev]

Am 17. November 2020 um 17:12:27, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev 
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Even if we replace the footer of this email list with links to other resources 
— we don’t need to reflect all the conversations, but folks should have equal 
visible access to all the places information is.

I have also not found anything to really store new stuff in, WIKIs SUCK!! They 
are ugly and lame like we’re back in the 90’s
Well, we are using a 25 year old technology stack, so this is kinda appropriate 
;-)



The new stuff I see, google docs — these are thoughtless ideas that are hard to 
give a place on the web— a domain or even a strong page somewhere.

Maybe we should use GITHub more?

I have all this container deployment stuff I can push he documentation and 
instructions for online, but we have to find a decent location people can 
access…

Suggestions?
I think the wocommunity wiki is currently the best place for such information 
(for example as a subpage of 
https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment). The wiki may 
seem a little bit confusing at first, because there are multiple spaces, and 
not all of them are always directly visible, but it contains a lot of useful 
information.

@wiki-admins: I would like to suggest, to configure all wiki spaces to always 
display the complete page tree in the sidebar 
[https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/configure-the-sidebar-317194694.html], 
and maybe link to all other (active) spaces, like in 
https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOCOM/WOCOM.

Ralf


> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Maik Musall via Webobjects-dev 
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> Hi everyone,
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> FWIW I added a notice to the main wiki page mentioning both this mailing list 
> and the slack channel. Yeah I know, the Wiki, but that’s what there is right 
> now.
> 
> Maik
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev]

Even if we replace the footer of this email list with links to other resources 
— we don’t need to reflect all the conversations, but folks should have equal 
visible access to all the places information is.

I have also not found anything to really store new stuff in, WIKIs SUCK!! They 
are ugly and lame like we’re back in the 90’s

The new stuff I see, google docs — these are thoughtless ideas that are hard to 
give a place on the web— a domain or even a strong page somewhere.

Maybe we should use GITHub more?

I have all this container deployment stuff I can push he documentation and 
instructions for online, but we have to find a decent location people can 
access…

Suggestions?



> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Maik Musall via Webobjects-dev 
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> Hi everyone,
> 
> FWIW I added a notice to the main wiki page mentioning both this mailing list 
> and the slack channel. Yeah I know, the Wiki, but that’s what there is right 
> now.
> 
> Maik
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Maik Musall via Webobjects-dev]

Hi everyone,

FWIW I added a notice to the main wiki page mentioning both this mailing list 
and the slack channel. Yeah I know, the Wiki, but that’s what there is right 
now.

Maik

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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

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Please add me too.

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El 9 nov 2020, a las 3:08, René Bock via Webobjects-dev 
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Please add me as well

Thanx

René

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Subject: Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?
 Please add me as well.
 Best regards,
Stefan
  

Am 01.11.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> >:
 The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
better!

I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand how 
the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned anywhere. 
Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes deeper than 
just that particular channel.

- hugi




On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.

Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:

- https://wocommunity.slack.com

I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link anywhere, 
or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a particular 
reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite clique of WOnder 
contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?

I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say Hi, 
and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.

Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice if 
there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with the 
Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I recently 
had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some new machines 
(MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I thought, I could 
update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an account there either, 
and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.

Greetings from Sweden,
Marc

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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[René Bock via Webobjects-dev]

Please add me as well

Thanx

René


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Sent: November 2, 2020 2:27 AM
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Please add me as well.

Best regards,
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Am 01.11.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>:

The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
better!

I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand how 
the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned anywhere. 
Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes deeper than 
just that particular channel.

- hugi




On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.

Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
- https://wocommunity.slack.com<https://wocommunity.slack.com/>

I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link anywhere, 
or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a particular 
reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite clique of WOnder 
contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?

I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say Hi, 
and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.

Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice if 
there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with the 
Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I recently 
had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some new machines 
(MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I thought, I could 
update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an account there either, 
and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.

Greetings from Sweden,
Marc

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The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev]

> On 2. Nov 2020, at 18:39, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Is it not possible to make it public?
> 
> Not to my knowledge, unfortunately. That would definitely be the optimal 
> solution.

Elm folks managed to do it:
https://elm-lang.org/community

I have no idea how they did that, though.

But even so, a notice on the Wiki, with the person to contact to get an invite 
(if someone would volunteer for that), would really be nice. So people don't 
have to bother the whole list...

To avoid spam, don't put an email there, just a name should be sufficient. 
Someone who can't figure out the email from the name shouldn't be in the Slack 
channel anyway ;)

>> I think I tried to get in, but honestly, I have so much trouble logging into 
>> slack with their truly bizarre idea of how to find what channels you belong 
>> to and log them in on each device you use…a super pain in the butt.
>> 
>> Also, does slack integrate with emails lists such that we can bind these two 
>> tougher so we all communicate as one list?
> 
> Not to my knowledge. If there's a chat platform that does that, that would be 
> great!

I don't think a mailing list and a chat can really be combined in a meaningful 
way, it's an entirely different form of communication.

That being said, there are tons of integrations available for Slack:
- https://secutrial.slack.com/apps

As does Mattermost:
- https://integrations.mattermost.com

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RE: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

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Sent: November 2, 2020 2:27 AM
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Subject: Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

Please add me as well.

Best regards,
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Am 01.11.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>:

The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
better!

I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand how 
the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned anywhere. 
Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes deeper than 
just that particular channel.

- hugi




On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.

Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
- https://wocommunity.slack.com

I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link anywhere, 
or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a particular 
reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite clique of WOnder 
contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?

I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say Hi, 
and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.

Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice if 
there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with the 
Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I recently 
had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some new machines 
(MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I thought, I could 
update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an account there either, 
and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.

Greetings from Sweden,
Marc

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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Don Lindsay via Webobjects-dev]

I would also like to be added if possible

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:01, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Marc,
> 
> You should have received a link on your mailbox.
> 
> Have a nice evening,
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> 
>> Le 1 nov. 2020 à 18:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>> 
>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>> 
>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
>> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
>> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
>> 
>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
>> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>> 
>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
>> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
>> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
>> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
>> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
>> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
>> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>> 
>> Greetings from Sweden,
>> Marc
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Stefan Gärtner via Webobjects-dev]

Please add me as well.

Best regards,
Stefan



> Am 01.11.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
> :
> 
> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
> started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
> better!
> 
> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
> deeper than just that particular channel.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>> 
>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>> 
>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
>> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
>> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
>> 
>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
>> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>> 
>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
>> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
>> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
>> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
>> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
>> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
>> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>> 
>> Greetings from Sweden,
>> Marc
>> 
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev]

This Wiki is disgusting.

Firstly, it looks like ass. 

Secondly you have to edit in bare-knuckles wiki script which is arcane and 
silly.

The world can’t be like this!

Surely, there is some nice looking software you can easily cooperatively edit 
and add photos or whatever links…and don’t say google docs!

Maintaining stuff like this wiki thing is for the birds.


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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev]

Well I was able to get MediWiki up and running and I can post that and start 
off a new party with modern-only information.

I was not able to load the bootstrap framework and the look of these wikis are 
eye-watering.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Bootstrap

Anyway, I can try that or if someone throws me a bone on some better idea I can 
try that as well.



> On Nov 1, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Matt Lee via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Slack sucks. Wikis are hard. 
> 
> I’m here to help with whatever we need to keep moving. I have a GitLab server 
> (git.gnu.io) and the wiki there is git based. There’s also Mattermost which 
> is like Slack. 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> Yes, I do agree with Hugi, we need to re-establish WOCommunity... with a 
> board... to structure things and organize the decisions to be made
> 
> I miss the WO-days.
> 
> I hate covid
> 
> Jérémy
> 
>> Le 1 nov. 2020 à 20:53, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>> I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
>> nicest place for real time chat.
>> 
>> I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish WOCommunity.
>> 
>> As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
>> buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
>> replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles 
>> that people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would 
>> love to hear more about :).
>> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form 
>>> of divergence because we’re already few and far between
>>> 
>>> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks 
>>> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with 
>>> the results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield 
>>> that kind of power.
>>> 
>>> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering 
>>> about the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should 
>>> largely start again or something.
>>> 
>>> Ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's 
>>>> something I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people 
>>>> that join the better!
>>>> 
>>>> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
>>>> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
>>>> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
>>>> deeper than just that particular channel.
>>>> 
>>>> - hugi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>>>>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>>>>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>>>>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there 
>>>>> a particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the 
>>>>> elite clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects 
>>>>> developer?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and 
>>>>> say Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be 
>>>>> nice if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I 
>>>>> mean with the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller 
>>>>> broken, etc. I recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for 
>>>>> deployment on

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Matt Lee via Webobjects-dev]

Slack sucks. Wikis are hard.

I’m here to help with whatever we need to keep moving. I have a GitLab
server (git.gnu.io) and the wiki there is git based. There’s also
Mattermost which is like Slack.


On Sunday, November 1, 2020, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev <
webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:

> Yes, I do agree with Hugi, we need to re-establish WOCommunity... with a
> board... to structure things and organize the decisions to be made
>
> I miss the WO-days.
>
> I hate covid
>
> Jérémy
>
> Le 1 nov. 2020 à 20:53, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev <
> webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> a écrit :
>
> I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like
> the nicest place for real time chat.
>
> I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish
> WOCommunity.
>
> As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and
> buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a
> replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles
> that people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would
> love to hear more about :).
>
> - hugi
>
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>
> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form
> of divergence because we’re already few and far between
>
> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks
> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with
> the results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield
> that kind of power.
>
> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering
> about the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should
> largely start again or something.
>
> Ideas?
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev <
> webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
>
> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's
> something I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people
> that join the better!
>
> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand
> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned
> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes
> deeper than just that particular channel.
>
> - hugi
>
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev <
> webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about
> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>
> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>
> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link
> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a
> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite
> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
>
> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and
> say Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>
> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be
> nice if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean
> with the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc.
> I recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on
> some new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I
> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an
> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>
> Greetings from Sweden,
> Marc
>
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev]

Yes, I do agree with Hugi, we need to re-establish WOCommunity... with a 
board... to structure things and organize the decisions to be made

I miss the WO-days.

I hate covid

Jérémy

Le 1 nov. 2020 à 20:53, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> a écrit 
:

I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
nicest place for real time chat.

I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish WOCommunity.

As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles that 
people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would love to 
hear more about :).

- hugi



On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler 
mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com>> wrote:

I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form of 
divergence because we’re already few and far between

I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks that 
help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with the results 
so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield that kind of power.

I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering about 
the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should largely start 
again or something.

Ideas?



On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
better!

I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand how 
the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned anywhere. 
Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes deeper than 
just that particular channel.

- hugi



On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.

Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
- https://wocommunity.slack.com<https://wocommunity.slack.com/>

I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link anywhere, 
or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a particular 
reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite clique of WOnder 
contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?

I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say Hi, 
and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.

Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice if 
there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with the 
Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I recently 
had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some new machines 
(MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I thought, I could 
update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an account there either, 
and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.

Greetings from Sweden,
Marc

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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev]

Regarding Slack, there is also Mattermost. At my work, we are currently 
considering to move away from Slack to a self hosted Mattermost installation. 
There is also Discord, one of my other hobbies (puzzles) has a vivid community 
there.

Regarding the wiki, I absolutely agree, there is more mis-information there 
than real information. Apart from the lack of any moderator rights, another 
hurdle would be my reluctance to edit/modify (or even delete *horror*) some of 
the eternal words of wisdom that were etched there in stone some 10 years ago 
by The Andrus, Chuck or Pascal.

But joking aside, there probably still is useful information in the wiki. I see 
that some of the stuff there already has been moved away into a "Deprecated" 
folder, which is a good start. Maybe eveything should be depracated, the top 
level structure flattened (it adds to the confusion in its current state), and 
then stuff which is still relevant can be slowly put back into the new fresh 
wiki.

I would suggest to keep the existing URL, and not start a new wiki on a new 
server somewhere, there is already the wikibook, and a Wonder Github wiki, and 
whatnot, and then we will just have another one, and the information is even 
more spread out and diverges.

Marc

> On 1. Nov 2020, at 20:53, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
> nicest place for real time chat.
> 
> I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish WOCommunity.
> 
> As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
> buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
> replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles 
> that people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would 
> love to hear more about :).
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form of 
>> divergence because we’re already few and far between
>> 
>> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks 
>> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with the 
>> results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield that 
>> kind of power.
>> 
>> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering about 
>> the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should largely 
>> start again or something.
>> 
>> Ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something 
>>> I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join 
>>> the better!
>>> 
>>> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
>>> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
>>> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
>>> deeper than just that particular channel.
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>>>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>>>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>>>> 
>>>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>>>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there 
>>>> a particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the 
>>>> elite clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects 
>>>> developer?
>>>> 
>>>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and 
>>>> say Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be 
>>>> nice if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I 
>>>> mean with the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, 
>>>> etc. I recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment 
>>>> on some new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, 
&g

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev]

I know EXACTLY what you mean...

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> A wiki is a lovely idea, but what I saw happen with the previous wiki was 
> that everyone was "too nice" to just re-edit things, throw out outdated info 
> and correct errors. So if you want to know how something works, you now 
> basically have to read through 15 meters of non-documentation and polite 
> conversation about how things might or might not work.
> 
> So… Sure. We could have a wiki. But I don't think a wiki can serve as the 
> primary source of truth—unless we appoint a merciless editor.
> 
> Anyway, as for the future—we're making a web framework, shouldn't we be using 
> our own medicine? :p
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 19:57, Jesse Tayler > <mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think “wiki" itself works well for this, real-time chat and pages where we 
>> can use images and formatting and various linking and keep it simple. A 
>> little less ‘moderated’ and a bit more a shared scratch area people can post 
>> whatever they think is useful.
>> 
>> I also agree the old stuff is more outdated or misinformation and really we 
>> should just start again.
>> 
>> Where can we put this sort of thing? A free wiki service or install one on a 
>> server? I guess I could set something up--
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Hugi Thordarson >> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
>>> nicest place for real time chat.
>>> 
>>> I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish 
>>> WOCommunity.
>>> 
>>> As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
>>> buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
>>> replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles 
>>> that people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would 
>>> love to hear more about :).
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler >>> <mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form 
>>>> of divergence because we’re already few and far between
>>>> 
>>>> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks 
>>>> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with 
>>>> the results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield 
>>>> that kind of power.
>>>> 
>>>> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering 
>>>> about the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should 
>>>> largely start again or something.
>>>> 
>>>> Ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's 
>>>>> something I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people 
>>>>> that join the better!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely 
>>>>> understand how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not 
>>>>> mentioned anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a 
>>>>> problem that goes deeper than just that particular channel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - hugi
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>>>>>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>>>>>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com <https://wocommunity.slack.com/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would be very inter

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev]

A wiki is a lovely idea, but what I saw happen with the previous wiki was that 
everyone was "too nice" to just re-edit things, throw out outdated info and 
correct errors. So if you want to know how something works, you now basically 
have to read through 15 meters of non-documentation and polite conversation 
about how things might or might not work.

So… Sure. We could have a wiki. But I don't think a wiki can serve as the 
primary source of truth—unless we appoint a merciless editor.

Anyway, as for the future—we're making a web framework, shouldn't we be using 
our own medicine? :p



> On 1 Nov 2020, at 19:57, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> I think “wiki" itself works well for this, real-time chat and pages where we 
> can use images and formatting and various linking and keep it simple. A 
> little less ‘moderated’ and a bit more a shared scratch area people can post 
> whatever they think is useful.
> 
> I also agree the old stuff is more outdated or misinformation and really we 
> should just start again.
> 
> Where can we put this sort of thing? A free wiki service or install one on a 
> server? I guess I could set something up--
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Hugi Thordarson > <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
>> 
>> I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
>> nicest place for real time chat.
>> 
>> I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish WOCommunity.
>> 
>> As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
>> buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
>> replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles 
>> that people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would 
>> love to hear more about :).
>> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler >> <mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form 
>>> of divergence because we’re already few and far between
>>> 
>>> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks 
>>> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with 
>>> the results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield 
>>> that kind of power.
>>> 
>>> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering 
>>> about the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should 
>>> largely start again or something.
>>> 
>>> Ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's 
>>>> something I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people 
>>>> that join the better!
>>>> 
>>>> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
>>>> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
>>>> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
>>>> deeper than just that particular channel.
>>>> 
>>>> - hugi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>>>>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>>>>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com <https://wocommunity.slack.com/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>>>>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there 
>>>>> a particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the 
>>>>> elite clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects 
>>>>> developer?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and 
>>>>> say Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for 

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev]

I think “wiki" itself works well for this, real-time chat and pages where we 
can use images and formatting and various linking and keep it simple. A little 
less ‘moderated’ and a bit more a shared scratch area people can post whatever 
they think is useful.

I also agree the old stuff is more outdated or misinformation and really we 
should just start again.

Where can we put this sort of thing? A free wiki service or install one on a 
server? I guess I could set something up--


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
> nicest place for real time chat.
> 
> I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish WOCommunity.
> 
> As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
> buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
> replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles 
> that people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would 
> love to hear more about :).
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler > <mailto:jtay...@oeinc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form of 
>> divergence because we’re already few and far between
>> 
>> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks 
>> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with the 
>> results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield that 
>> kind of power.
>> 
>> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering about 
>> the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should largely 
>> start again or something.
>> 
>> Ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something 
>>> I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join 
>>> the better!
>>> 
>>> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
>>> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
>>> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
>>> deeper than just that particular channel.
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>>>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>>>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com <https://wocommunity.slack.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>>>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there 
>>>> a particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the 
>>>> elite clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects 
>>>> developer?
>>>> 
>>>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and 
>>>> say Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be 
>>>> nice if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I 
>>>> mean with the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, 
>>>> etc. I recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment 
>>>> on some new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, 
>>>> so I thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have 
>>>> an account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings from Sweden,
>>>> Marc
>>>> 
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev]

I kind of hate Slack as well. But unfortunately it currently seems like the 
nicest place for real time chat.

I agree about the worries of divergence. We need to re-establish WOCommunity.

As for the old wiki pages, I think they should just be plain abandoned and 
buried. There's more misinformation there than information. If we make a 
replacement I think it should be more of a blog-style, linking to articles that 
people can maintain themselves, like your Docker/WO work that I would love to 
hear more about :).

- hugi



> On 1 Nov 2020, at 18:09, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
> I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form of 
> divergence because we’re already few and far between
> 
> I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks 
> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with the 
> results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield that kind 
> of power.
> 
> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering about 
> the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should largely 
> start again or something.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something 
>> I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join 
>> the better!
>> 
>> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
>> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
>> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
>> deeper than just that particular channel.
>> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>>> 
>>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com <https://wocommunity.slack.com/>
>>> 
>>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
>>> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
>>> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
>>> 
>>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
>>> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>>> 
>>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
>>> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
>>> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
>>> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
>>> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
>>> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
>>> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>>> 
>>> Greetings from Sweden,
>>> Marc
>>> 
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[George Domurot via Webobjects-dev]

Please add me too!

Thanks,
G


> On Nov 1, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
> started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
> better!
> 
> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
> deeper than just that particular channel.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>> 
>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>> 
>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
>> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
>> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
>> 
>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
>> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>> 
>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
>> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
>> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
>> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
>> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
>> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
>> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>> 
>> Greetings from Sweden,
>> Marc
>> 
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev]

I hate slack but we could use a channel like that, I worry about any form of 
divergence because we’re already few and far between

I have had great luck with Docker and WO and have a few modern frameworks that 
help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with the results 
so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield that kind of power.

I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering about 
the ‘old’ wiki and who’s maintaining any of that or if we should largely start 
again or something.

Ideas?



> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
> started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
> better!
> 
> I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand 
> how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned 
> anywhere. Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes 
> deeper than just that particular channel.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about 
>> this anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
>> 
>> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
>> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
>> 
>> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
>> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
>> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
>> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
>> 
>> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
>> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
>> 
>> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
>> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
>> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
>> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
>> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
>> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
>> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
>> 
>> Greetings from Sweden,
>> Marc
>> 
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev]

The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I 
started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the 
better!

I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand how 
the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's not mentioned anywhere. 
Totally my bad and I'll work to fix it. It's a problem that goes deeper than 
just that particular channel.

- hugi



> On 1 Nov 2020, at 17:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
> anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
> 
> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
> 
> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
> 
> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
> 
> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden,
> Marc
> 
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Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev]

Hi Marc,

You should have received a link on your mailbox.

Have a nice evening,

Jérémy


> Le 1 nov. 2020 à 18:49, Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
> anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.
> 
> Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
> - https://wocommunity.slack.com
> 
> I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link 
> anywhere, or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a 
> particular reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite 
> clique of WOnder contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?
> 
> I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say 
> Hi, and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.
> 
> Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice 
> if there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with 
> the Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I 
> recently had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some 
> new machines (MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I 
> thought, I could update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an 
> account there either, and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden,
> Marc
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The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

[Marc Günther via Webobjects-dev]

Hi all,

Sorry to bother everyone, but I can find absolutely no information about this 
anywhere. I wouldn't even know whom to ask.

Apparently there is a WOCommunity Slack channel since quite a while now:
- https://wocommunity.slack.com

I would be very interested to join, but I cannot find a sign up link anywhere, 
or a contact person, or any mention of it on the wiki. Is there a particular 
reason that this channel is kept so secret? Only for the elite clique of WOnder 
contributers and not for the common WebObjects developer?

I was recently interested in Elm, and I could just join their Slack and say Hi, 
and ask questions. It felt very welcoming for new users.

Now, I know there won't be any new users for WO, but it would still be nice if 
there wouldn't be this air of mystery about the whole thing. I mean with the 
Wiki being out of date for like 5 years, WOInstaller broken, etc. I recently 
had to setup WebObjects for development and for deployment on some new machines 
(MacOS Catalina), and documented the entire process, so I thought, I could 
update the information on the wiki, but I don't have an account there either, 
and likewise, no idea on who to ask about it.

Greetings from Sweden,
Marc

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[CHRISTOPH WICK | i4innovation GmbH, Bonn]

Hi all,

can you add me too? Thanks.

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> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Amedeo Mantica]

Hi, please add me too

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Thank you
Amedeo

> On 6 Sep 2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Sébastien Rottiers]

me too, please: sebastien.rotti...@intellicore.net

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Janz Tobias]

Me too, please.

Thanks
Tobias

> Am 29.09.2016 um 18:16 schrieb Martin Perez Barreiro 
> :
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> Please add me to!
> 
> Best,
> M.
> 
> 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Martin Perez Barreiro]

Please add me to!

Best,
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Daniel Bietenbeck]

Me 2
dan...@bietenbeck.de

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Francois BIENTZ]

Me too , please
Thank you 
Franc

> Le 28 sept. 2016 à 08:00, Szántai Károly <szantaikar...@t-online.hu> a écrit :
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>> 2016. szept. 27. dátummal, 13:17 időpontban 
>> webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com írta:
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>> Von: Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net>
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Szántai Károly]

Please, me too.

Thanks,
Károly

> 2016. szept. 27. dátummal, 13:17 időpontban 
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The WOCommunity slack channel

[Stavros Panidis]

Also me, please!

Many thanks

Stavros

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Troy Lumasag]

Please invite me as well.

Thank you.

--Troy


On 27/09/2016 5:34 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:
I’ve just invited everyone up to and including Markus Stoll (that 
wasn’t already invited). Has anyone in this thread been missed?



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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Kai Lochbaum]

I'd like an invite too.

Thanks,
Kai




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Betreff: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

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The WOCommunity slack channel

[jens schulze]

Please add me too:

jens.schu...@me.com 

jens


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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

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I’ve just invited everyone up to and including Markus Stoll (that wasn’t 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Dr. Markus Stoll, junidas GmbH]

me 2, pls

Regards, Markus

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> W dniu 27.09.2016 o 03:51, Benjamin Chew pisze:
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Konrad Kubacki]

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W dniu 27.09.2016 o 03:51, Benjamin Chew pisze:

Me too please!

Thanks,
Ben

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Benjamin Chew]

Me too please!

Thanks,
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Michelle Parker]

Hi, 

Please add me too

Michelle Parker
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thanks!
mich

> On 27 Sep 2016, at 12:09 AM, Nilton Lessa  wrote:
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> Cheers,
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>> On 26 de set de 2016, at 11:07, Can Ece  wrote:
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>> Please add me as well.
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>> Thanks
>> Can
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 15:56, Ralf Schuchardt  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> please add me too: r...@gmx.de
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ralf Schuchardt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 6. September 2016 um 14:01:27, Hugi Thordarson (h...@karlmenn.is) 
>>> schrieb:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel 
 for the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. 
 Just let us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Nilton Lessa]

Hi,

Please, me too.

Cheers,

Nilton

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> On 26 de set de 2016, at 11:07, Can Ece  wrote:
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>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 15:56, Ralf Schuchardt > 
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>> 
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>> Thanks,
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>> 
>> Am 6. September 2016 um 14:01:27, Hugi Thordarson (h...@karlmenn.is 
>> ) schrieb:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> // Hugi Thordarson
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Can Ece]

Hi
Please add me as well.

Thanks
Can


> On 22 Sep 2016, at 15:56, Ralf Schuchardt  wrote:
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> Am 6. September 2016 um 14:01:27, Hugi Thordarson (h...@karlmenn.is 
> ) schrieb:
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>> Hi all,
>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - hugi
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Ralf Schuchardt]

Hi,

please add me too: r...@gmx.de

Thanks,
Ralf Schuchardt


Am 6. September 2016 um 14:01:27, Hugi Thordarson (h...@karlmenn.is) schrieb:

Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.

Cheers,
- hugi

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Frank Cobia]

Please add me.

Thanks,
Frank Cobia


> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Vanek Josef]

Please add me too:
josef.va...@intellicore.net

Thx
Activé 8 septembre 2016 à 12:35:19, Jacky Vaillancourt (listes...@gmail.com) a 
écrit:

+1 please

jacky.vaillanco...@gmail.com


Le 7 sept. 2016 à 16:27, Stefan Klein  a écrit :

Send me an Invitation too.
Stefan

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 07.09.2016 um 08:41 schrieb Dennis Bliefernicht 
:

Hi,

On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:

Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.

Count me in, if I'm invited ;-) (dennis.bliefernicht [at] xyrality.com)

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Jacky Vaillancourt]

+1 please

jacky.vaillanco...@gmail.com 


> Le 7 sept. 2016 à 16:27, Stefan Klein  a écrit :
> 
> Send me an Invitation too.
> Stefan
> 
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
> 
> Am 07.09.2016 um 08:41 schrieb Dennis Bliefernicht 
> >:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>> 
>> Count me in, if I'm invited ;-) (dennis.bliefernicht [at] xyrality.com 
>> )
>> 
>> Greetings & Thanks
>> Dennis
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Stefan Klein]

Send me an Invitation too.
Stefan

Von meinem iPad gesendet

> Am 07.09.2016 um 08:41 schrieb Dennis Bliefernicht 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Count me in, if I'm invited ;-) (dennis.bliefernicht [at] xyrality.com)
> 
> Greetings & Thanks
> Dennis
> 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Gordon Belray]

Hi Hugi,

could you please add me as well, we are big Slackers at UofT.

Thanks,
Gordon

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
> // Hugi Thordarson
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Baiss Eric Magnusson]

Hi Hugi,

I tried the oldies channel and it didn't work, Hehe. 

Please add me to the list.

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> And I made a special channel for us oldies.
> 
> https://wocommunity.slack.com/archives/goats
> 
> - hugi
> 
>> On 6. sep. 2016, at 18:41, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
>> Internet is No Place for Old Men!
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Benjamin Steiner]

i’m interested as well, please add me


> On 06 Sep 2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
> // Hugi Thordarson
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> // s. 895-6688
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Dennis Bliefernicht]

Hi,

> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.

Count me in, if I'm invited ;-) (dennis.bliefernicht [at] xyrality.com)

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Michael Sharp]

Yes please!

I’ve been using Slack for Uni, the native Mac app is pretty good.

Sharpy..

On 6/09/2016, 10:01 PM, "Hugi Thordarson" 
 wrote:

Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us 
know if you’d like an invite so you can join.

Cheers,
- hugi

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// s. 895-6688

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Louis Demers]

Ok, count me in...


> On Sep 6, 2016, at 08:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Chuck Hill]

OK, got it!

http://classicprogrammerpaintings.com/search/slack


From: David LeBer <dleber_wo...@codeferous.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM
To: Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com>, "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>, Mark Wardle <m...@wardle.org>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

Chuck, Slack is ICQ written in Javascript... feel better now?

Oh, and +1

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On September 6, 2016 at 5:38:33 PM, Mark Wardle 
(m...@wardle.org<mailto:m...@wardle.org>) wrote:
I'll add some information on my gopher site

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 at 19:45, Chuck Hill 
<ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:
Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
Internet is No Place for Old Men!


From: 
<webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com<mailto:gevityinc@lists.apple.com>>
 on behalf of Markus Ruggiero 
<mailingli...@kataputt.com<mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

also interested, please add me in

---markus---


On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.
Cheers,
- hugi
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Chuck Hill]

Now THERE is a technology that I am familiar with!

From: Mark Wardle <m...@wardle.org>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:37 PM
To: Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com>, "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

I'll add some information on my gopher site

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 at 19:45, Chuck Hill 
<ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:
Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
Internet is No Place for Old Men!


From: 
<webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com<mailto:gevityinc@lists.apple.com>>
 on behalf of Markus Ruggiero 
<mailingli...@kataputt.com<mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

also interested, please add me in

---markus---


On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.
Cheers,
- hugi
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[David LeBer]

Chuck, Slack is ICQ written in Javascript... feel better now?

Oh, and +1

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On September 6, 2016 at 5:38:33 PM, Mark Wardle (m...@wardle.org) wrote:

I'll add some information on my
gopher site

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 at 19:45, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
Internet is No Place for Old Men!

 

 

From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on behalf of 
Markus Ruggiero <mailingli...@kataputt.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

 

also interested, please add me in

 

---markus---

 

 

On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:

Hi all,

just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.

Cheers,

- hugi

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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Mark Wardle]

I'll add some information on my gopher site

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 at 19:45, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:

> Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P
> The Internet is No Place for Old Men!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *<webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on
> behalf of Markus Ruggiero <mailingli...@kataputt.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
> *To: *"webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> *Subject: *Re: The WOCommunity slack channel
>
>
>
> also interested, please add me in
>
>
>
> ---markus---
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel
> for the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just
> let us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - hugi
>
> // Hugi Thordarson
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Calven Eggert]

hmmm, I know nothing about Slack.  Why should I join there when we have 
everything here? :-)

Calven



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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[James Cicenia]

I’ve heard about Slacking and since I am still lurking, add me too.




> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Oscar González <racso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Add me please.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Oscar Gonzalez.
> 
> 
> De: webobjects-dev-bounces+racso_gp=hotmail@lists.apple.com 
> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+racso_gp=hotmail@lists.apple.com> 
> <webobjects-dev-bounces+racso_gp=hotmail@lists.apple.com 
> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+racso_gp=hotmail@lists.apple.com>> en 
> nombre de Morris, Mark <mark.mor...@experian.com 
> <mailto:mark.mor...@experian.com>>
> Enviado: martes 6 de septiembre de 2016 01:13 p.m.
> Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Asunto: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel
>  
> Hmmm, our corporate IT blocks the slack.com <http://slack.com/> address, 
> affecting both the web site and the Mac app. :-(
> Slack: Be less busy <http://slack.com/>
> slack.com <http://slack.com/>
> Slack brings all your communication together in one place. It’s real-time 
> messaging, archiving and search for modern teams.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is 
>> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
>> 
>> It wouldn’t be a WO group without you. And I made a special channel for us 
>> oldies.
>> 
>> https://wocommunity.slack.com/archives/goats 
>> <https://wocommunity.slack.com/archives/goats>
>> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6. sep. 2016, at 18:41, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com 
>>> <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  
>>> The Internet is No Place for Old Men!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com 
>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com>> on 
>>> behalf of Markus Ruggiero <mailingli...@kataputt.com 
>>> <mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
>>> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com 
>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com 
>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel
>>> 
>>> also interested, please add me in
>>> 
>>> ---markus---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is 
>>> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>>> Cheers,
>>> - hugi
>>> // Hugi Thordarson
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Oscar González]

Hi all,

Add me please.


Regards,


Oscar Gonzalez.



De: webobjects-dev-bounces+racso_gp=hotmail@lists.apple.com 
<webobjects-dev-bounces+racso_gp=hotmail@lists.apple.com> en nombre de 
Morris, Mark <mark.mor...@experian.com>
Enviado: martes 6 de septiembre de 2016 01:13 p.m.
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

Hmmm, our corporate IT blocks the slack.com<http://slack.com> address, 
affecting both the web site and the Mac app. :-(
Slack: Be less busy<http://slack.com/>
slack.com
Slack brings all your communication together in one place. It's real-time 
messaging, archiving and search for modern teams.



On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:

It wouldn't be a WO group without you. And I made a special channel for us 
oldies.

https://wocommunity.slack.com/archives/goats

- hugi


On 6. sep. 2016, at 18:41, Chuck Hill 
<ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:

Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
Internet is No Place for Old Men!


From: 
<webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com>>
 on behalf of Markus Ruggiero 
<mailingli...@kataputt.com<mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

also interested, please add me in

---markus---


On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It's a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you'd like an invite so you can join.
Cheers,
- hugi
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// http://www.loftfar.is/
// s. 895-6688
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Morris, Mark]

Hmmm, our corporate IT blocks the slack.com<http://slack.com> address, 
affecting both the web site and the Mac app. :-(

On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:

It wouldn’t be a WO group without you. And I made a special channel for us 
oldies.

https://wocommunity.slack.com/archives/goats

- hugi


On 6. sep. 2016, at 18:41, Chuck Hill 
<ch...@gevityinc.com<mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:

Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
Internet is No Place for Old Men!


From: 
<webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com>>
 on behalf of Markus Ruggiero 
<mailingli...@kataputt.com<mailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

also interested, please add me in

---markus---


On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.
Cheers,
- hugi
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// http://www.loftfar.is/
// s. 895-6688
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Hugi Thordarson]

It wouldn’t be a WO group without you. And I made a special channel for us 
oldies.

https://wocommunity.slack.com/archives/goats

- hugi


> On 6. sep. 2016, at 18:41, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
> 
> Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
> Internet is No Place for Old Men!
>  
>  
> From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on behalf 
> of Markus Ruggiero <mailingli...@kataputt.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
> To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel
>  
> also interested, please add me in
>  
> ---markus---
>  
>  
> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> Cheers,
> - hugi
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Chuck Hill]

Might as well include me.  Now I have to figure out what Slack is.  :-P  The 
Internet is No Place for Old Men!


From: <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc@lists.apple.com> on behalf of 
Markus Ruggiero <mailingli...@kataputt.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
To: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>
Subject: Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

also interested, please add me in

---markus---


On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson 
<h...@karlmenn.is<mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote:
Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.
Cheers,
- hugi
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Altera WO Team]

me too, as mcen...@altera.it


> On 06 Sep 2016, at 15:57, Markus Ruggiero  wrote:
> 
> also interested, please add me in
> 
> ---markus---
> 
> 
>> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - hugi
>> 
>> // Hugi Thordarson
>> // http://www.loftfar.is/
>> // s. 895-6688
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Markus Ruggiero]

also interested, please add me in

---markus---


> On 06.09.2016, at 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
> // Hugi Thordarson
> // http://www.loftfar.is/
> // s. 895-6688
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Paul Yu]

Please add me as well.

Paul

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> yes please!!!
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Hugi Thordarson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
>> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
>> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - hugi
>> 
>> // Hugi Thordarson
>> // http://www.loftfar.is/
>> // s. 895-6688
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Re: The WOCommunity slack channel

[Jérémy DE ROYER]

I’m interested

Jérémy

> Le 6 sept. 2016 à 14:01, Hugi Thordarson  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for 
> the WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let 
> us know if you’d like an invite so you can join.
> 
> Cheers,
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The WOCommunity slack channel

[Hugi Thordarson]

Hi all,
just wanted to remind you that Samuel Pelletier created a slack channel for the 
WOCommunity. It’s a lovely little place for chatting about WO. Just let us know 
if you’d like an invite so you can join.

Cheers,
- hugi

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