Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-26 Thread Tim Worman
All:

I forked and updated David LeBer's go_wolips script (which was a fork of Mike 
Schrag's original). My fork lives here:

https://gist.github.com/timsquared/5454092

It has been updated to download Eclipse 3.8.2 (Juno) and also use the Juno 
update site. Other updated update sites (and installation units) include: 
groovy, subversive, m2eclipse, and buckminster. It  runs well on my install of 
OS X 10.8.X. I am interested to know if these component updates cause anyone 
issues in their workflow. I do not use these components.

My intention is to update Golipse with this - I also think it is valuable to 
keep repos of both Golipse and the embedded script for flexibility. It'd 
probably be a good idea to move this script repo to the WOCommunity GitHub. It 
also may be a good idea to move the P2 director script from Mike Schrag's repo 
to WOCommunity. It is called from within go_wolips. While it works great as is, 
future changes to Eclipse (or P2 Equinox) could impact it.

Tim
UCLA GSEIS

On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:

 Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and I 
 was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need is to 
 drop an update script in, that's great.
 
 If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar with 
 the script and how p2 works.
 
 Tim
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:
 
 I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that 
 Mike S created.
 
 This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
 
 It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if there 
 is a wocommunity gist version of it.
 
 Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
 until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be part 
 of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the requests 
 probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
 
 I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve 
 the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing pieces 
 of the script.
 
 If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I shouldn't 
 invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, message me.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the 
 case, try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to the 
 java commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with 
 the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't 
 working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. 
 Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it 
 looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 
 3.8 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the 
 same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception 
 (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
 processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception 
 (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
 processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Installation failed.
 The installable unit 
 org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group has not been found.
 Application failed, log file location: 
 /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
 Cleaning up …
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. 
 I'm just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm 
 examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and 
 their associated update sites.
 
 The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
 
 Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable 

Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-26 Thread Bastian Triller
Eclipse 3.8.2 != Eclipse Juno [1]

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_%28software%29#Releases

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:07:05AM -0700, Tim Worman wrote:
 All:
 
 I forked and updated David LeBer's go_wolips script (which was a fork of Mike 
 Schrag's original). My fork lives here:
 
 https://gist.github.com/timsquared/5454092
 
 It has been updated to download Eclipse 3.8.2 (Juno) and also use the Juno 
 update site. Other updated update sites (and installation units) include: 
 groovy, subversive, m2eclipse, and buckminster. It  runs well on my install 
 of OS X 10.8.X. I am interested to know if these component updates cause 
 anyone issues in their workflow. I do not use these components.
 
 My intention is to update Golipse with this - I also think it is valuable to 
 keep repos of both Golipse and the embedded script for flexibility. It'd 
 probably be a good idea to move this script repo to the WOCommunity GitHub. 
 It also may be a good idea to move the P2 director script from Mike Schrag's 
 repo to WOCommunity. It is called from within go_wolips. While it works great 
 as is, future changes to Eclipse (or P2 Equinox) could impact it.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
  Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and 
  I was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need 
  is to drop an update script in, that's great.
  
  If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar 
  with the script and how p2 works.
  
  Tim
  
  On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com 
  wrote:
  
  I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that 
  Mike S created.
  
  This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
  
  It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if 
  there is a wocommunity gist version of it.
  
  Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
  until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
  
  D
  
  --
  David LeBer
  Codeferous Software
  
  On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
  
  OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be 
  part of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the 
  requests probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
  
  I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve 
  the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing 
  pieces of the script.
  
  If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I 
  shouldn't invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, 
  message me.
  
  Tim
  UCLA GSEIS
  
  On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  
  Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the 
  case, try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to 
  the java commandline.
  
  Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
  Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with 
  the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't 
  working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. 
  Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it 
  looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 
  3.8 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the 
  same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
  
  Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
  Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
  executeWithRetry
  INFO: I/O exception 
  (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
  processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
  Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
  executeWithRetry
  INFO: Retrying request
  Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
  executeWithRetry
  INFO: I/O exception 
  (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
  processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
  Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
  executeWithRetry
  INFO: Retrying request
  Installation failed.
  The installable unit 
  org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group has not been 
  found.
  Application failed, log file location: 
  /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
  Cleaning up …
  
  Tim
  UCLA GSEIS
  
  On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller 
  bastian.tril...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
  I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. 
  I'm just beginning so I'm not 

Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-26 Thread Tim Worman
Bastian:

I appreciate your email and your opinion. Eclipse 3.8 and 4.2 are both part of 
the Juno release. I found through this process that the information about 
Eclipse 3.8 is all over the map - there are quite a few different 
understandings out there about what 3.8 is - exactly. You'll notice that 3.8 is 
not listed on your link at all. As for updates, yes, 3.8 updates should come 
from the Juno repository.

Here is what eclipse.org has to say on the topic:

http://projects.eclipse.org/releases/juno

The juno release includes these project sub-entries:

Eclipse Project 3.8.0   +0
Eclipse Project 4.2.0   +0

You'll also notice that many of the major Eclipse sub-projects are at version 
3.8 - like Equinox. The 4.2 release is a significant new feature release -  
built on the foundational changes that are also in 3.8.

This stackoverflow question has some quality answers about this topic.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6997190/what-the-difference-between-eclipse-3-7-3-8-and-4-2

respectfully,

Tim
UCLA GSEIS

On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com wrote:

 Eclipse 3.8.2 != Eclipse Juno [1]
 
 [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_%28software%29#Releases
 
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:07:05AM -0700, Tim Worman wrote:
 All:
 
 I forked and updated David LeBer's go_wolips script (which was a fork of 
 Mike Schrag's original). My fork lives here:
 
 https://gist.github.com/timsquared/5454092
 
 It has been updated to download Eclipse 3.8.2 (Juno) and also use the Juno 
 update site. Other updated update sites (and installation units) include: 
 groovy, subversive, m2eclipse, and buckminster. It  runs well on my install 
 of OS X 10.8.X. I am interested to know if these component updates cause 
 anyone issues in their workflow. I do not use these components.
 
 My intention is to update Golipse with this - I also think it is valuable to 
 keep repos of both Golipse and the embedded script for flexibility. It'd 
 probably be a good idea to move this script repo to the WOCommunity GitHub. 
 It also may be a good idea to move the P2 director script from Mike Schrag's 
 repo to WOCommunity. It is called from within go_wolips. While it works 
 great as is, future changes to Eclipse (or P2 Equinox) could impact it.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and 
 I was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need 
 is to drop an update script in, that's great.
 
 If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar 
 with the script and how p2 works.
 
 Tim
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com 
 wrote:
 
 I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that 
 Mike S created.
 
 This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
 
 It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if 
 there is a wocommunity gist version of it.
 
 Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
 until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be 
 part of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the 
 requests probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
 
 I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve 
 the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing 
 pieces of the script.
 
 If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I 
 shouldn't invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, 
 message me.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the 
 case, try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to 
 the java commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with 
 the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't 
 working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. 
 Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it 
 looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 
 3.8 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the 
 same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception 
 (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
 processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 

Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-26 Thread Tim Worman
Hi David:

The plugin install is done by the P2 director script which should be downloaded 
to /tmp (then deleted at completion). I haven't made any changes in the way 
that works.

I haven't run go_wolips from within my target directory but I'll give it a try 
to test. What's interesting from your report is that the error indicates that 
the path does not point to a folder - which is clearly there in your screenshot.

Tim

On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:54 AM, David Holt programming...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Tim,
 
 Fortuitously I am installing the tools on a brand new mac. 
 
 I created a Tools folder, put go_wolips inside, cd into Tools and run the 
 following command:
 
 . go_wolips .
 
 The result is that I have a working install of Eclipse, but none of the 
 plugins. Here is the output from my terminal if it is helpful:
 
 Screen Shot 2013-04-26 at 11.51.25 AM.png
 
 
 Screen Shot 2013-04-26 at 11.52.53 AM.png
 
 
 There seems to be a small error in the file path for the plugin installer 
 unless I have done something incorrectly?
 
 Thanks,
 David
 
 
 On 2013-04-26, at 9:07 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 All:
 
 I forked and updated David LeBer's go_wolips script (which was a fork of 
 Mike Schrag's original). My fork lives here:
 
 https://gist.github.com/timsquared/5454092
 
 It has been updated to download Eclipse 3.8.2 (Juno) and also use the Juno 
 update site. Other updated update sites (and installation units) include: 
 groovy, subversive, m2eclipse, and buckminster. It  runs well on my install 
 of OS X 10.8.X. I am interested to know if these component updates cause 
 anyone issues in their workflow. I do not use these components.
 
 My intention is to update Golipse with this - I also think it is valuable to 
 keep repos of both Golipse and the embedded script for flexibility. It'd 
 probably be a good idea to move this script repo to the WOCommunity GitHub. 
 It also may be a good idea to move the P2 director script from Mike Schrag's 
 repo to WOCommunity. It is called from within go_wolips. While it works 
 great as is, future changes to Eclipse (or P2 Equinox) could impact it.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and 
 I was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need 
 is to drop an update script in, that's great.
 
 If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar 
 with the script and how p2 works.
 
 Tim
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com 
 wrote:
 
 I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that 
 Mike S created.
 
 This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
 
 It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if 
 there is a wocommunity gist version of it.
 
 Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
 until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be 
 part of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the 
 requests probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
 
 I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve 
 the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing 
 pieces of the script.
 
 If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I 
 shouldn't invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, 
 message me.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the 
 case, try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to 
 the java commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with 
 the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't 
 working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. 
 Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it 
 looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 
 3.8 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the 
 same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception 
 (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
 processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM 

Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-26 Thread Tim Worman
It only works with the full path as an argument. I am going to insert a check 
for . though and I will push the change up. It's a reasonable thing to check 
for and replace.

You could do this now though without the change:

. go_wolips `pwd`

Tim

On Apr 26, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:

 Hi David:
 
 The plugin install is done by the P2 director script which should be 
 downloaded to /tmp (then deleted at completion). I haven't made any changes 
 in the way that works.
 
 I haven't run go_wolips from within my target directory but I'll give it a 
 try to test. What's interesting from your report is that the error indicates 
 that the path does not point to a folder - which is clearly there in your 
 screenshot.
 
 Tim
 
 On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:54 AM, David Holt programming...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Fortuitously I am installing the tools on a brand new mac. 
 
 I created a Tools folder, put go_wolips inside, cd into Tools and run the 
 following command:
 
 . go_wolips .
 
 The result is that I have a working install of Eclipse, but none of the 
 plugins. Here is the output from my terminal if it is helpful:
 
 Screen Shot 2013-04-26 at 11.51.25 AM.png
 
 
 Screen Shot 2013-04-26 at 11.52.53 AM.png
 
 
 There seems to be a small error in the file path for the plugin installer 
 unless I have done something incorrectly?
 
 Thanks,
 David
 
 
 On 2013-04-26, at 9:07 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 All:
 
 I forked and updated David LeBer's go_wolips script (which was a fork of 
 Mike Schrag's original). My fork lives here:
 
 https://gist.github.com/timsquared/5454092
 
 It has been updated to download Eclipse 3.8.2 (Juno) and also use the Juno 
 update site. Other updated update sites (and installation units) include: 
 groovy, subversive, m2eclipse, and buckminster. It  runs well on my install 
 of OS X 10.8.X. I am interested to know if these component updates cause 
 anyone issues in their workflow. I do not use these components.
 
 My intention is to update Golipse with this - I also think it is valuable 
 to keep repos of both Golipse and the embedded script for flexibility. It'd 
 probably be a good idea to move this script repo to the WOCommunity GitHub. 
 It also may be a good idea to move the P2 director script from Mike 
 Schrag's repo to WOCommunity. It is called from within go_wolips. While it 
 works great as is, future changes to Eclipse (or P2 Equinox) could impact 
 it.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and 
 I was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need 
 is to drop an update script in, that's great.
 
 If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar 
 with the script and how p2 works.
 
 Tim
 
 On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com 
 wrote:
 
 I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script 
 that Mike S created.
 
 This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
 
 It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if 
 there is a wocommunity gist version of it.
 
 Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
 until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be 
 part of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the 
 requests probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
 
 I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can 
 serve the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start 
 testing pieces of the script.
 
 If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I 
 shouldn't invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, 
 message me.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller 
 bastian.tril...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the 
 case, try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to 
 the java commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with 
 the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't 
 working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. 
 Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it 
 looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 
 3.8 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the 
 same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM 
 

Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-24 Thread Tim Worman
OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be part of 
the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the requests probably do 
come from java. They may be timing out.

I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve the 
community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing pieces of the 
script.

If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I shouldn't 
invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, message me.

Tim
UCLA GSEIS

On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the case, 
 try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to the java 
 commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with the 
 same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't working. The 
 logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. Neither wolips nor 
 workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it looks like those 
 definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 3.8 requires an 
 updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the same with the current 
 Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
 caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
 respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
 caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
 respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Installation failed.
 The installable unit org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group 
 has not been found.
 Application failed, log file location: 
 /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
 Cleaning up …
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
  I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. I'm 
  just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm 
  examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and 
  their associated update sites.
 
  The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
 
  Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used 
  with Eclipse 3.8?
  Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with 
  Eclipse 3.8 as well.
 
  Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.
 
  Tim
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Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-24 Thread David LeBer
I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that Mike 
S created.

This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437

It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if there is 
a wocommunity gist version of it.

Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it until 
it works, and then replace the script in the project.

D

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Codeferous Software

On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:

 OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be part of 
 the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the requests probably 
 do come from java. They may be timing out.
 
 I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve the 
 community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing pieces of 
 the script.
 
 If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I shouldn't 
 invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, message me.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the case, 
 try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to the java 
 commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with the 
 same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't working. The 
 logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. Neither wolips nor 
 workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it looks like those 
 definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 3.8 requires an 
 updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the same with the current 
 Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
 caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
 respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
 caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
 respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Installation failed.
 The installable unit org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group 
 has not been found.
 Application failed, log file location: 
 /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
 Cleaning up …
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. I'm 
 just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm 
 examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and 
 their associated update sites.
 
 The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
 
 Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used 
 with Eclipse 3.8?
 Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with 
 Eclipse 3.8 as well.
 
 Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.
 
 Tim
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Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-24 Thread Tim Worman
Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and I 
was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need is to 
drop an update script in, that's great.

If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar with 
the script and how p2 works.

Tim

On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:

 I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that 
 Mike S created.
 
 This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
 
 It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if there 
 is a wocommunity gist version of it.
 
 Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
 until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be part 
 of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the requests 
 probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
 
 I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve 
 the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing pieces 
 of the script.
 
 If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I shouldn't 
 invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, message me.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the case, 
 try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to the java 
 commandline.
 
 Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:
 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with the 
 same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't working. 
 The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. Neither wolips 
 nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it looks like those 
 definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 3.8 requires an 
 updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the same with the 
 current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
 
 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
 caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
 respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
 caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
 respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Installation failed.
 The installable unit org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group 
 has not been found.
 Application failed, log file location: 
 /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
 Cleaning up …
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. I'm 
 just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm 
 examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and 
 their associated update sites.
 
 The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
 
 Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used 
 with Eclipse 3.8?
 Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with 
 Eclipse 3.8 as well.
 
 Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.
 
 Tim
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anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-23 Thread Tim Worman
I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. I'm just 
beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm examining the 
script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and their associated 
update sites.

The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable

Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used with 
Eclipse 3.8?

Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.

Tim
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Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-23 Thread Bastian Triller
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:

 I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. I'm
 just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm
 examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and
 their associated update sites.

 The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable

 Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used
 with Eclipse 3.8?

Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with
Eclipse 3.8 as well.


 Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.

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Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-23 Thread Tim Worman
Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with the 
same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't working. The 
logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. Neither wolips nor 
workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it looks like those definitely 
failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 3.8 requires an updated P2 script. 
Actually, I think the result is the same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd 
say it is broken.

Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
executeWithRetry
INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
respond
Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
executeWithRetry
INFO: Retrying request
Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
executeWithRetry
INFO: I/O exception (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) 
caught when processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to 
respond
Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
executeWithRetry
INFO: Retrying request
Installation failed.
The installable unit org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group has 
not been found.
Application failed, log file location: 
/Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
Cleaning up …

Tim
UCLA GSEIS

On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. I'm 
 just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm 
 examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and their 
 associated update sites.
 
 The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
 
 Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used with 
 Eclipse 3.8?
 Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with 
 Eclipse 3.8 as well.
 
 Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.
 
 Tim
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Re: anyone want to test an update to golipse?

2013-04-23 Thread Bastian Triller
Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the case,
try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to the java
commandline.
Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com:

 Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with
 the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't
 working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get.
 Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it
 looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 3.8
 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the same
 with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.

 Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception
 (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when
 processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: I/O exception
 (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when
 processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
 Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
 executeWithRetry
 INFO: Retrying request
 Installation failed.
 The installable unit
 org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group has not been found.
 Application failed, log file location:
 /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
 Cleaning up …

 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS

 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller bastian.tril...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
  I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8.
 I'm just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. I'm
 examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed and
 their associated update sites.
 
  The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
 
  Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used
 with Eclipse 3.8?
  Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with
 Eclipse 3.8 as well.
 
  Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.
 
  Tim
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