Re: [Wengophone-devel] AMR questions
Andreas Schneider schrieb: Klaus Darilion wrote: Hi! I wonder how you deal with AMR license restrictions - does Wengo pays for the AMR license or is it the users task to get an AMR license? Hello, WengoPhone is developed in Europe, so we don't have any software patents here. If the user lives in a country which has software patents like the USA, the user needs a license to use WengoPhone. I do not think it is a software patent. I think the AMR patent is about the way how speech samples are compressed - and not how this encoding/decoding is done in a certain software ways. klaus This is a problem we should discuss. http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr states: AMR codecs incorporate several patents, held by Ericsson, Universite de Sherbrooke (VoiceAge) and Nokia. VoiceAge claims to provide patent portfolio for AMR codecs. Depending on law in your country, manufacturers and developers may need to get a license. Because it is a shared library, you may need a special contract for each one application, which links against this library, directly or indirectly. -- andreas ___ Wengophone-devel mailing list Wengophone-devel@lists.openwengo.com http://dev.openwengo.com/mailman/listinfo/wengophone-devel ___ Wengophone-devel mailing list Wengophone-devel@lists.openwengo.com http://dev.openwengo.com/mailman/listinfo/wengophone-devel
Re: [Wengophone-devel] AMR questions
Hi Andreas, Andreas Schneider wrote: Klaus Darilion wrote: I wonder how you deal with AMR license restrictions - does Wengo pays for the AMR license or is it the users task to get an AMR license? WengoPhone is developed in Europe, so we don't have any software patents here. If the user lives in a country which has software patents like the USA, the user needs a license to use WengoPhone. This is probably inaccurate - there are applicable patents for most software in the EU as well (although as of yet, none of them have come before a judge - partly for fear of having the patents struck down, probably). AMR codecs incorporate several patents, held by Ericsson, Universite de Sherbrooke (VoiceAge) and Nokia. VoiceAge claims to provide patent portfolio for AMR codecs. Depending on law in your country, manufacturers and developers may need to get a license. Because it is a shared library, you may need a special contract for each one application, which links against this library, directly or indirectly. First: as a free software project we may not do something like pay for a distribution licence, and not allow our users the same rights we have. So I can confirm that we don't have a licence for the patents. Next: my personal opinion is that we are better off as a project ignoring patent issues until they actually need dealing with. We could distribute handicapped, under-functional, useless software with no patent issues, or we can try to deliver the best softphone that we can which implies codec support, and worry about patents when we need to. I suppose I don't need to add a disclaimer saying this is not official policy, and does not constitute an acknowledgement that we implement anything covered by patents, blah, blah. But there goes anyway. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary OpenWengo Community Development Manager Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +33 9 51 13 46 45 Mob: +33 6 28 09 73 11 ___ Wengophone-devel mailing list Wengophone-devel@lists.openwengo.com http://dev.openwengo.com/mailman/listinfo/wengophone-devel
Re: [Wengophone-devel] AMR questions
Klaus Darilion wrote: Hi! I wonder how you deal with AMR license restrictions - does Wengo pays for the AMR license or is it the users task to get an AMR license? Hello, WengoPhone is developed in Europe, so we don't have any software patents here. If the user lives in a country which has software patents like the USA, the user needs a license to use WengoPhone. This is a problem we should discuss. http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr states: AMR codecs incorporate several patents, held by Ericsson, Universite de Sherbrooke (VoiceAge) and Nokia. VoiceAge claims to provide patent portfolio for AMR codecs. Depending on law in your country, manufacturers and developers may need to get a license. Because it is a shared library, you may need a special contract for each one application, which links against this library, directly or indirectly. -- andreas -- http://www.cynapses.org/ - cybernetic synapses signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Wengophone-devel mailing list Wengophone-devel@lists.openwengo.com http://dev.openwengo.com/mailman/listinfo/wengophone-devel
Re: [Wengophone-devel] AMR questions
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:47:36AM +0200, Andreas Schneider wrote: Klaus Darilion wrote: Hi! I wonder how you deal with AMR license restrictions - does Wengo pays for the AMR license or is it the users task to get an AMR license? Hello, WengoPhone is developed in Europe, so we don't have any software patents here. If the user lives in a country which has software patents like the USA, the user needs a license to use WengoPhone. This is a problem we should discuss. http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr states: AMR codecs incorporate several patents, held by Ericsson, Universite de Sherbrooke (VoiceAge) and Nokia. VoiceAge claims to provide patent portfolio for AMR codecs. Depending on law in your country, manufacturers and developers may need to get a license. Because it is a shared library, you may need a special contract for each one application, which links against this library, directly or indirectly. What about linux distributions? May be debian will have some problems distributing AMR codec? Ciao -- - |Marco Nenciarini| Debian/GNU Linux Developer - Plug Member | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.prato.linux.it/~mnencia | - Key fingerprint = FED9 69C7 9E67 21F5 7D95 5270 6864 730D F095 E5E4 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Wengophone-devel mailing list Wengophone-devel@lists.openwengo.com http://dev.openwengo.com/mailman/listinfo/wengophone-devel
