Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-14 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 Micah Cowan wrote:
  Jochen Roderburg wrote:
  Unfortunately, however, a new regression crept in:
  In the case timestamping=on, content-disposition=off, no local file
 present it
  does now no HEAD (correctly), but two (!!) GETS and transfers the file two
  times.
 
  Ha! Okay, gotta get that one fixed...

 That should now be fixed.

 It's hard to be confident I'm not introducing more issues, with the
 state of http.c being what it is. So please beat on it! :)

This time it survived the beating  ;-)
Seems that we are finally converging. The double GET is gone, and my other test
cases still work as expected, including the -c variants.

 One issue I'm still aware of is that, if -c and -e
 contentdisposition=yes are specified for a file already fully
 downloaded, HEAD will be sent for the contentdisposition, and yet a GET
 will still be sent to fetch the remainder of the -c (resulting in a 416
 Requested Range Not Satisfiable). Ideally, Wget should be smart enough
 to see from the HEAD that the Content-Length already matches the file's
 size, even though -c no longer requires a HEAD (again). We _got_ one, we
 should put it to good use.

 However, I'm not worried about addressing this before 1.11 releases;
 it's a minor complaint, and with content-disposition's current
 implementation, users are already going to be expecting an extra HEAD
 round-trip in the general case; what's a few extra?

Agreed. I can confirm this behaviour, too. And I would also consider this a
minor issue, at least the result is correct.

I have also not made many tests where content-disposition is really used for the
filename. Those few real-live cases that I have at hand do not send any
special headers like timestamnps and filelengths with it. At least the local
filename is set correctly and is correctly renamed if it exists.

Best regards and thanks again for the repair of all the issues that I found,

Jochen Roderburg



Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-14 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It's hard to be confident I'm not introducing more issues, with the
 state of http.c being what it is. So please beat on it! :)
 
 This time it survived the beating  ;-)

Yay!! :D

 One issue I'm still aware of is that, if -c and -e
 contentdisposition=yes are specified for a file already fully
 downloaded, HEAD will be sent for the contentdisposition, and yet a GET
 will still be sent to fetch the remainder of the -c (resulting in a 416
 Requested Range Not Satisfiable). Ideally, Wget should be smart enough
 to see from the HEAD that the Content-Length already matches the file's
 size, even though -c no longer requires a HEAD (again). We _got_ one, we
 should put it to good use.

 However, I'm not worried about addressing this before 1.11 releases;
 it's a minor complaint, and with content-disposition's current
 implementation, users are already going to be expecting an extra HEAD
 round-trip in the general case; what's a few extra?
 
 Agreed. I can confirm this behaviour, too. And I would also consider this a
 minor issue, at least the result is correct.
 
 I have also not made many tests where content-disposition is really used for 
 the
 filename. Those few real-live cases that I have at hand do not send any
 special headers like timestamnps and filelengths with it. At least the local
 filename is set correctly and is correctly renamed if it exists.

And I expect there are probably several bugs lurking here (which is why
I've designated it as experimental). After the 1.11 release I want to
revisit that section, and look more closely at what happens if we get a
Content-Disposition at the last minute, especially if it specifies a
local file name that we are rejecting. I'd prefer that it not use HEAD
at all for that, as I expect Content-Disposition is rare enough that it
doesn't justify issuing HEAD just to see if its present; and in any case
it probably frequently isn't sent with HEAD responses, but only for GET.

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-09 Thread Micah Cowan
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Micah Cowan wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Unfortunately, however, a new regression crept in:
 In the case timestamping=on, content-disposition=off, no local file present 
 it
 does now no HEAD (correctly), but two (!!) GETS and transfers the file two
 times.
 
 Ha! Okay, gotta get that one fixed...

That should now be fixed.

It's hard to be confident I'm not introducing more issues, with the
state of http.c being what it is. So please beat on it! :)

One issue I'm still aware of is that, if -c and -e
contentdisposition=yes are specified for a file already fully
downloaded, HEAD will be sent for the contentdisposition, and yet a GET
will still be sent to fetch the remainder of the -c (resulting in a 416
Requested Range Not Satisfiable). Ideally, Wget should be smart enough
to see from the HEAD that the Content-Length already matches the file's
size, even though -c no longer requires a HEAD (again). We _got_ one, we
should put it to good use.

However, I'm not worried about addressing this before 1.11 releases;
it's a minor complaint, and with content-disposition's current
implementation, users are already going to be expecting an extra HEAD
round-trip in the general case; what's a few extra?

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Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-07 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
  Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
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  Jochen Roderburg wrote:
  Yes, this one is still open, and the other one that wget -c always
 starts
  at 0
  again.
  Do you mean the (local 0) thing? That should have been fixed in
  674cc935f7c8 [subversion r2382]. Can you re-check?
 
  No, that is ok now.
  I saw my little patch for this included as of this weekend ;-)
 
  The one I mean is: wget -c continuation is not done in the HEADless
 cases
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/wget%40sunsite.dk/msg10265.html   ff.

 This should be fixed now, along with the timestamping issues.


And now the test results of this weekend  ;-)

First the good news, the recent problems *are* fixed now, namely:

In the case with default options (timestamping=off, content-disposition=off) we
have now:

The timestamps on the downloaded files are set correctly.
Continued HTTP transfer (wget -c) is done correctly.

Unfortunately, however, a new regression crept in:
In the case timestamping=on, content-disposition=off, no local file present it
does now no HEAD (correctly), but two (!!) GETS and transfers the file two
times.

All other combinations of these options and conditions are OK.

Best regards,
J.Roderburg



Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-07 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Unfortunately, however, a new regression crept in:
 In the case timestamping=on, content-disposition=off, no local file present it
 does now no HEAD (correctly), but two (!!) GETS and transfers the file two
 times.

Ha! Okay, gotta get that one fixed...

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http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-05 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
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 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Yes, this one is still open, and the other one that wget -c always starts
 at 0
 again.
 Do you mean the (local 0) thing? That should have been fixed in
 674cc935f7c8 [subversion r2382]. Can you re-check?
 
 No, that is ok now.
 I saw my little patch for this included as of this weekend ;-)
 
 The one I mean is: wget -c continuation is not done in the HEADless cases.
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wget%40sunsite.dk/msg10265.html   ff.

This should be fixed now, along with the timestamping issues.

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http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-01 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
  And now, for a change, a case, that works now (better)  ;-)
 
  This is an example where a HEAD request gets a 500 Error response.
 
  Wget default options again, but contentdisposition=yes to force a HEAD.
 
 
  wget.111-svn-0709 --debug -e contentdisposition = yes
  http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
 
  Setting contentdisposition (contentdisposition) to yes
  DEBUG output created by Wget 1.10+devel on linux-gnu.
 
  --15:26:54--
 http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
  Resolving www.eudora.com... 199.106.114.30
  Caching www.eudora.com = 199.106.114.30
  Connecting to www.eudora.com|199.106.114.30|:80... connected.
  Created socket 3.
  Releasing 0x080888d8 (new refcount 1).
 
  ---request begin---
  HEAD /cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109 HTTP/1.0
  User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
  Accept: */*
  Host: www.eudora.com
  Connection: Keep-Alive
 
  ---request end---
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  ---response begin---
  HTTP/1.1 500 Server Error
  Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
  Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:54 GMT
  Content-length: 305
  Content-type: text/html
  Connection: keep-alive
 
  ---response end---
  500 Server Error
  Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
  --15:26:56--  (try: 2)
  http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
  Disabling further reuse of socket 3.
  Closed fd 3
  Found www.eudora.com in host_name_addresses_map (0x80888d8)
  Connecting to www.eudora.com|199.106.114.30|:80... connected.
  Created socket 3.
  Releasing 0x080888d8 (new refcount 1).
 
  ---request begin---
  GET /cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109 HTTP/1.0
  User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
  Accept: */*
  Host: www.eudora.com
  Connection: Keep-Alive
 
  ---request end---
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  ---response begin---
  HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
  Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
  Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:55 GMT
  Location:
 http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
  Content-length: 0
  Connection: keep-alive
 
  ---response end---
  302 Moved Temporarily
  Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
  Location:
 http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
  [following]
  Skipping 0 bytes of body: [] done.
  --15:26:56--
  http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
  Reusing existing connection to www.eudora.com:80.
  Reusing fd 3.
 
  ---request begin---
  HEAD /download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe HTTP/1.0
  User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
  Accept: */*
  Host: www.eudora.com
  Connection: Keep-Alive
 
  ---request end---
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  ---response begin---
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
  Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:56 GMT
  Content-type: application/octet-stream
  Last-modified: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:18 GMT
  Content-length: 17416184
  Accept-ranges: bytes
  Connection: keep-alive
 
  ---response end---
  200 OK
  Length: 17416184 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
  --15:26:56--
  http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
  Reusing existing connection to www.eudora.com:80.
  Reusing fd 3.
 
  ---request begin---
  GET /download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe HTTP/1.0
  User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
  Accept: */*
  Host: www.eudora.com
  Connection: Keep-Alive
 
  ---request end---
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  ---response begin---
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
  Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:56 GMT
  Content-type: application/octet-stream
  Last-modified: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:18 GMT
  Content-length: 17416184
  Accept-ranges: bytes
  Connection: keep-alive
 
  ---response end---
  200 OK
  Length: 17416184 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
  Saving to: `Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe'
 
  100%[=] 17,416,184
 397K/s
  in 44s
 
  15:27:40 (386 KB/s) - `Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe' saved [17416184/17416184]
 
 
  ls -l Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
  -rw-r- 1 a0045 RRZK 17416184 05.10.2006 20:45 Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 
 
  This seems also to use the only available source for the timestamp, the
 response
  to the GET request.

 Sorry to reproduce that in full, but I thought it might be helpful to
 see the full transcript again, since you sent this a while ago.

 I was going back through this thread to refresh my memory on some
 things. I noticed, and wanted to point out, that actually, the GET
 request was _not_ the only available source for the timestamp; HEAD was
 answered with a 500, but only the first one. The HEAD issued after the
 redirect gives a timestamp.

Yes indeed, you are right, I overlooked the second HEAD after the redirect ;-)

My main message here was of course that the changes regarding the 500 error
response to the HEAD 

Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-01 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The problem you pointed out that causes the failure to properly
 timestamp when HEADs aren't issued seems, to my reading, to be simply
 regressable for the fix. Mauro's fixes don't look as if they depend upon
 that line being there, but I'm waiting for him to have a chance to look
 over it before I commit to that as the fix (both he and I have been busy
 lately).

Yes, this one is still open, and the other one that wget -c always starts at 0
again.

On the other hand, with the combination of options that I usually use in my
daily wget practice (timestampng and content-disposition on) everything works
fine now  ;-)

 I've also got trying to deal with content-disposition issues for when
 HEAD fails, on my todo list.

I have not done real-life tests with content-disposition cases, but I have also
some feeling that not all combination with other options (like timestamping and
continuation) work with these yet. These may be minor issues again, as usually
content-disposition is used when the contents are generated somehow dynmically
and there are no static timestamps and filelengths at all.

Best regards,
J. Roderburg




Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-01 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 The problem you pointed out that causes the failure to properly
 timestamp when HEADs aren't issued seems, to my reading, to be simply
 regressable for the fix. Mauro's fixes don't look as if they depend upon
 that line being there, but I'm waiting for him to have a chance to look
 over it before I commit to that as the fix (both he and I have been busy
 lately).
 
 Yes, this one is still open, and the other one that wget -c always starts 
 at 0
 again.

Do you mean the (local 0) thing? That should have been fixed in
674cc935f7c8 [subversion r2382]. Can you re-check?

 On the other hand, with the combination of options that I usually use in my
 daily wget practice (timestampng and content-disposition on) everything works
 fine now  ;-)
 
 I've also got trying to deal with content-disposition issues for when
 HEAD fails, on my todo list.
 
 I have not done real-life tests with content-disposition cases, but I have 
 also
 some feeling that not all combination with other options (like timestamping 
 and
 continuation) work with these yet. These may be minor issues again, as usually
 content-disposition is used when the contents are generated somehow dynmically
 and there are no static timestamps and filelengths at all.

Yes. Currently Content-Disposition is not working when the HEAD fails or
doesn't include Content-Disposition, which is problematic since this is
a very frequent case. However, I think the necessary changes would be a
bit invasive, and I'm not prepared to make them in time for the 1.11
release; so in essence, Content-Disposition, for now, will sometimes
work and sometimes not.

It'll be nice to fix this in 1.12, along with implementing changes to
reduce the number of HEADs we issue (I'd prefer to skip HEAD completely
for just content-disposition, and assume we'll accept it, and terminate
the connection if we won't; at any rate, it will need some discussion,
most of which would probably be more appropriate at the Wgiki).

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-01 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
  Yes, this one is still open, and the other one that wget -c always starts
 at 0
  again.

 Do you mean the (local 0) thing? That should have been fixed in
 674cc935f7c8 [subversion r2382]. Can you re-check?

No, that is ok now.
I saw my little patch for this included as of this weekend ;-)

The one I mean is: wget -c continuation is not done in the HEADless cases.

http://www.mail-archive.com/wget%40sunsite.dk/msg10265.html   ff.

Regards,
J.Roderburg



Re: Myriad merges

2007-10-01 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Yes, this one is still open, and the other one that wget -c always starts
 at 0
 again.
 Do you mean the (local 0) thing? That should have been fixed in
 674cc935f7c8 [subversion r2382]. Can you re-check?
 
 No, that is ok now.
 I saw my little patch for this included as of this weekend ;-)
 
 The one I mean is: wget -c continuation is not done in the HEADless cases.
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wget%40sunsite.dk/msg10265.html   ff.

Ah, thanks for the reminder. Apparently I'd forgotten to track that.

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-30 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 And now, for a change, a case, that works now (better)  ;-)
 
 This is an example where a HEAD request gets a 500 Error response.
 
 Wget default options again, but contentdisposition=yes to force a HEAD.
 
 
 wget.111-svn-0709 --debug -e contentdisposition = yes
 http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
 
 Setting contentdisposition (contentdisposition) to yes
 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.10+devel on linux-gnu.
 
 --15:26:54--  
 http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
 Resolving www.eudora.com... 199.106.114.30
 Caching www.eudora.com = 199.106.114.30
 Connecting to www.eudora.com|199.106.114.30|:80... connected.
 Created socket 3.
 Releasing 0x080888d8 (new refcount 1).
 
 ---request begin---
 HEAD /cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109 HTTP/1.0
 User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
 Accept: */*
 Host: www.eudora.com
 Connection: Keep-Alive
 
 ---request end---
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
 ---response begin---
 HTTP/1.1 500 Server Error
 Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:54 GMT
 Content-length: 305
 Content-type: text/html
 Connection: keep-alive
 
 ---response end---
 500 Server Error
 Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
 --15:26:56--  (try: 2) 
 http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
 Disabling further reuse of socket 3.
 Closed fd 3
 Found www.eudora.com in host_name_addresses_map (0x80888d8)
 Connecting to www.eudora.com|199.106.114.30|:80... connected.
 Created socket 3.
 Releasing 0x080888d8 (new refcount 1).
 
 ---request begin---
 GET /cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109 HTTP/1.0
 User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
 Accept: */*
 Host: www.eudora.com
 Connection: Keep-Alive
 
 ---request end---
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
 ---response begin---
 HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
 Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:55 GMT
 Location: http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 Content-length: 0
 Connection: keep-alive
 
 ---response end---
 302 Moved Temporarily
 Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
 Location: http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 [following]
 Skipping 0 bytes of body: [] done.
 --15:26:56-- 
 http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 Reusing existing connection to www.eudora.com:80.
 Reusing fd 3.
 
 ---request begin---
 HEAD /download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe HTTP/1.0
 User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
 Accept: */*
 Host: www.eudora.com
 Connection: Keep-Alive
 
 ---request end---
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
 ---response begin---
 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
 Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:56 GMT
 Content-type: application/octet-stream
 Last-modified: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:18 GMT
 Content-length: 17416184
 Accept-ranges: bytes
 Connection: keep-alive
 
 ---response end---
 200 OK
 Length: 17416184 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
 --15:26:56-- 
 http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 Reusing existing connection to www.eudora.com:80.
 Reusing fd 3.
 
 ---request begin---
 GET /download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe HTTP/1.0
 User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
 Accept: */*
 Host: www.eudora.com
 Connection: Keep-Alive
 
 ---request end---
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
 ---response begin---
 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
 Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:56 GMT
 Content-type: application/octet-stream
 Last-modified: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:18 GMT
 Content-length: 17416184
 Accept-ranges: bytes
 Connection: keep-alive
 
 ---response end---
 200 OK
 Length: 17416184 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
 Saving to: `Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe'
 
 100%[=] 17,416,184   397K/s  
 in 44s
 
 15:27:40 (386 KB/s) - `Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe' saved [17416184/17416184]
 
 
 ls -l Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 -rw-r- 1 a0045 RRZK 17416184 05.10.2006 20:45 Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
 
 
 This seems also to use the only available source for the timestamp, the 
 response
 to the GET request.

Sorry to reproduce that in full, but I thought it might be helpful to
see the full transcript again, since you sent this a while ago.

I was going back through this thread to refresh my memory on some
things. I noticed, and wanted to point out, that actually, the GET
request was _not_ the only available source for the timestamp; HEAD was
answered with a 500, but only the first one. The HEAD issued after the
redirect gives a timestamp.

The problem you pointed out that causes the failure to properly
timestamp when HEADs aren't issued seems, to my reading, to be simply
regressable for the fix. Mauro's fixes don't look as if they depend upon
that line being there, but I'm waiting for him to have a chance to look
over it before I commit to that as the fix (both he and I have 

Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-13 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  And the only other code I found which parses the remote date is in the part
  which handles the logic around the timestamping option. In older versions
 this
  was a conditional block starting with  if (!got_head) ...  , now it starts
 with
   if (send_head_first  !got_head) ...   Could this mean that this code is
 now
  only executed when a HEAD response is examined ??

 Hm... that change came from the Content-Disposition fixes. I'll investigate.


OK, but I hope I am still allowed to help a little with the investigation  ;-)

I made a few more tests and some debugging now and I am convinced now that this
if send_head_first is definitely the immediate cause for the new problem
that the remote timestamp is not picked up on GET-only requests.

This change is relatively new, it had not been in the next-to-last svn version
that I compiled a month ago. Certainly there must have been a reason for this
but one sure side effect is that this if-block of code is not executed any
longer for the HEAD-less case. Btw, continued downloads (wget -c) are also
broken now in this case (probably for the same reason).

I meanwhile also believe that the primary issue we are trying to repair (first
found remote time-stamp is used for local and not last found) has always been
there. Only a year ago when the contentdisposition stuff was included and more
HEAD requests were made I really noticed it. I remember that it had always been
more difficult to get a newer file downloaded through the proxy-cache when a
local file was present, but as these cases were rare, I had never tried to
investigate this before  ;-)

Jochen Roderburg
ZAIK/RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Germany



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-13 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hm... that change came from the Content-Disposition fixes. I'll investigate.

 
 OK, but I hope I am still allowed to help a little with the investigation  ;-)

Oh, I'm always very, _very_ happy to get help. :D

 I made a few more tests and some debugging now and I am convinced now that 
 this
 if send_head_first is definitely the immediate cause for the new problem
 that the remote timestamp is not picked up on GET-only requests.

snip

 Btw, continued downloads (wget -c) are also
 broken now in this case (probably for the same reason).

Really? I've been using this Wget version for a bit, and haven't noticed
this problem. Could you give an invocation that produces this problem?

 I meanwhile also believe that the primary issue we are trying to repair (first
 found remote time-stamp is used for local and not last found) has always been
 there. Only a year ago when the contentdisposition stuff was included and more
 HEAD requests were made I really noticed it. I remember that it had always 
 been
 more difficult to get a newer file downloaded through the proxy-cache when a
 local file was present, but as these cases were rare, I had never tried to
 investigate this before  ;-)

I'm not surprised to hear this; it didn't look like it had ever been
working before... and it's not a common situation, so I'm not surprised
it wasn't caught earlier, either.

- --
Micah J. Cowan
Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-13 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Btw, continued downloads (wget -c) are also
  broken now in this case (probably for the same reason).

 Really? I've been using this Wget version for a bit, and haven't noticed
 this problem. Could you give an invocation that produces this problem?


I'll make a new thread for this problem, as it meanwhile looks like a different
case again   ;-)

J.Roderburg



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-07 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Zitat von Jochen Roderburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  So it looks now to me, that the new error (local timestamp not set to
 remote)
  only occurs in the cases when no HEAD is used.
 
  This (new) piece of code in http.c (line 2666 ff.) looks very suspicious to
 me,
  especially the time_came_from_head bit:
 
/* Reparse time header, in case it's changed. */
if (time_came_from_head
 hstat.remote_time  hstat.remote_time[0])
  {
newtmr = http_atotm (hstat.remote_time);
if (newtmr != -1)
  tmr = newtmr;
  }

 The intent behind this code is to ensure that we parse the Last-Modified
 date again, even if we already parsed Last-Modified, if the last one we
 parsed came from the HEAD.

Hmm, yes, but that is not what it does  ;-)

I mean, it does not parse the date again even if it was already parsed, but
only if it was already parsed. So especially it does *not* parse it if there
had been no HEAD at all before.

And the only other code I found which parses the remote date is in the part
which handles the logic around the timestamping option. In older versions this
was a conditional block starting with  if (!got_head) ...  , now it starts with
 if (send_head_first  !got_head) ...   Could this mean that this code is now
only executed when a HEAD response is examined ??

Anyway, I think everything is ok again when you just eliminate this
time_came_from_head logic completely. The above piece of code then just sets
the local timestamp to the last remote timestamp which was seen and does not
care from which HEAD or GET requests it actually came.

Jochen Roderburg
ZAIK/RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln   E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Germany



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-07 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Zitat von Jochen Roderburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 So it looks now to me, that the new error (local timestamp not set to
 remote)
 only occurs in the cases when no HEAD is used.
 This (new) piece of code in http.c (line 2666 ff.) looks very suspicious to
 me,
 especially the time_came_from_head bit:

   /* Reparse time header, in case it's changed. */
   if (time_came_from_head
hstat.remote_time  hstat.remote_time[0])
 {
   newtmr = http_atotm (hstat.remote_time);
   if (newtmr != -1)
 tmr = newtmr;
 }
 The intent behind this code is to ensure that we parse the Last-Modified
 date again, even if we already parsed Last-Modified, if the last one we
 parsed came from the HEAD.
 
 Hmm, yes, but that is not what it does  ;-)
 
 I mean, it does not parse the date again even if it was already parsed, but
 only if it was already parsed. So especially it does *not* parse it if there
 had been no HEAD at all before.

That's actually what I said it does (somewhat clumsily: if the last one
we parsed came from the HEAD).

Yes, as I said, if there had been no HEAD before, it should already have
been parsed in earlier code, and no action should be necessary. That's
what time_came_from_head is for, to prevent us from parsing it twice
from GET.

 And the only other code I found which parses the remote date is in the part
 which handles the logic around the timestamping option. In older versions this
 was a conditional block starting with  if (!got_head) ...  , now it starts 
 with
  if (send_head_first  !got_head) ...   Could this mean that this code is now
 only executed when a HEAD response is examined ??

Hm... that change came from the Content-Disposition fixes. I'll investigate.

- --
Micah J. Cowan
Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-06 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Jochen Roderburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 So it looks now to me, that the new error (local timestamp not set to remote)
 only occurs in the cases when no HEAD is used.

This (new) piece of code in http.c (line 2666 ff.) looks very suspicious to me,
especially the time_came_from_head bit:

  /* Reparse time header, in case it's changed. */
  if (time_came_from_head
   hstat.remote_time  hstat.remote_time[0])
{
  newtmr = http_atotm (hstat.remote_time);
  if (newtmr != -1)
tmr = newtmr;
}

Other than that I have used the current svn version now a few days more with all
my work and I would say all the issues that had bothered me in the recent
development cycles are corrected now.
I'll see, however, that I can make a few more systematic tests with some
combination of the relevant options which I usually do not use in my practice.

What I have seen new are some cosmetic issues in the program output when HTTP
restarts happen. Such restarts are normally rare these days, but I have some
sites far away where suddenly bad connections and timeouts reappeared. One
looks pretty simple, I think I can prepare a patch myself on the weekend when I
have access to my Linux development system at home again. I'll report details
in separate mail later, when I have examples for the cases.

Best regards,

Jochen Roderburg
ZAIK/RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln   E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Germany



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-06 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Zitat von Jochen Roderburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 So it looks now to me, that the new error (local timestamp not set to remote)
 only occurs in the cases when no HEAD is used.
 
 This (new) piece of code in http.c (line 2666 ff.) looks very suspicious to 
 me,
 especially the time_came_from_head bit:
 
   /* Reparse time header, in case it's changed. */
   if (time_came_from_head
hstat.remote_time  hstat.remote_time[0])
 {
   newtmr = http_atotm (hstat.remote_time);
   if (newtmr != -1)
 tmr = newtmr;
 }

The intent behind this code is to ensure that we parse the Last-Modified
date again, even if we already parsed Last-Modified, if the last one we
parsed came from the HEAD. This whole block of code that you've pasted
is new, not just the surrounding if clause; if we never sent a HEAD but
only a GET, the Last-Modified _should_ have been parsed in code that
appears before here.

...but, obviously, things aren't working quite as they should, so I need
to look into it more closely.

- --
Micah J. Cowan
Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-03 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hm, that should not be. It should definitely set the timestamp if it
 gets downloaded... I'll investigate.

 OOC, was there a specific resource you tested against (just in case I
 have difficulty reproducing)?


Not a very specific one, just used our university homepage for this test ;-)

Here a full protocol:


ls -l index.html

ls: cannot access index.html: No such file or directory


HEAD http://www.uni-koeln.de/index.html

200 OK
Connection: close
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:44:59 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Server: Apache/2.0.59
Content-Language: de
Content-Type: text/html
Last-Modified: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:04:09 GMT
Client-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:44:59 GMT
Client-Response-Num: 1


wget.111-svn-0709 --debug http://www.uni-koeln.de/index.html

DEBUG output created by Wget 1.10+devel on linux-gnu.

--13:45:12--  http://www.uni-koeln.de/index.html
Resolving www.uni-koeln.de... 134.95.19.39
Caching www.uni-koeln.de = 134.95.19.39
Connecting to www.uni-koeln.de|134.95.19.39|:80... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x08088820 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
GET /index.html HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: www.uni-koeln.de
Connection: Keep-Alive

---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:45:12 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.59
Last-Modified: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:04:09 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Language: de
Connection: close

---response end---
200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: `index.html'

[ =  ] 9,131   --.-K/s  
in 0s

Closed fd 3
13:45:12 (207 MB/s) - `index.html' saved [9131]

ls -l index.html

-rw-r- 1 a0045 RRZK 9131 03.09.2007 13:45 index.html

date

Mon Sep  3 13:45:24 CEST 2007


Jochen Roderburg
ZAIK/RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln   E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Germany



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-03 Thread Jochen Roderburg

And now, for a change, a case, that works now (better)  ;-)

This is an example where a HEAD request gets a 500 Error response.

Wget default options again, but contentdisposition=yes to force a HEAD.


wget.111-svn-0709 --debug -e contentdisposition = yes
http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109

Setting contentdisposition (contentdisposition) to yes
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.10+devel on linux-gnu.

--15:26:54--  http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
Resolving www.eudora.com... 199.106.114.30
Caching www.eudora.com = 199.106.114.30
Connecting to www.eudora.com|199.106.114.30|:80... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x080888d8 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
HEAD /cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109 HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: www.eudora.com
Connection: Keep-Alive

---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.1 500 Server Error
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:54 GMT
Content-length: 305
Content-type: text/html
Connection: keep-alive

---response end---
500 Server Error
Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
--15:26:56--  (try: 2) 
http://www.eudora.com/cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109
Disabling further reuse of socket 3.
Closed fd 3
Found www.eudora.com in host_name_addresses_map (0x80888d8)
Connecting to www.eudora.com|199.106.114.30|:80... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x080888d8 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
GET /cgi-bin/export.cgi?productid=EUDORA_win_7109 HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: www.eudora.com
Connection: Keep-Alive

---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:55 GMT
Location: http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
Content-length: 0
Connection: keep-alive

---response end---
302 Moved Temporarily
Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
Location: http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
[following]
Skipping 0 bytes of body: [] done.
--15:26:56-- 
http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
Reusing existing connection to www.eudora.com:80.
Reusing fd 3.

---request begin---
HEAD /download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: www.eudora.com
Connection: Keep-Alive

---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:56 GMT
Content-type: application/octet-stream
Last-modified: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:18 GMT
Content-length: 17416184
Accept-ranges: bytes
Connection: keep-alive

---response end---
200 OK
Length: 17416184 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
--15:26:56-- 
http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
Reusing existing connection to www.eudora.com:80.
Reusing fd 3.

---request begin---
GET /download/eudora/windows/7.1/Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: www.eudora.com
Connection: Keep-Alive

---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/6.0
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:26:56 GMT
Content-type: application/octet-stream
Last-modified: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:18 GMT
Content-length: 17416184
Accept-ranges: bytes
Connection: keep-alive

---response end---
200 OK
Length: 17416184 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe'

100%[=] 17,416,184   397K/s  
in 44s

15:27:40 (386 KB/s) - `Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe' saved [17416184/17416184]


ls -l Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe
-rw-r- 1 a0045 RRZK 17416184 05.10.2006 20:45 Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe


This seems also to use the only available source for the timestamp, the response
to the GET request.

Best regards, J.Roderburg



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-03 Thread Jochen Roderburg

And now, finally, the ultimate real-life test with proxy-cache, timestamping and
contentdisposition, where HEAD and GET have different timestamps.

And this is perfectly correct now !

So it looks now to me, that the new error (local timestamp not set to remote)
only occurs in the cases when no HEAD is used.

Best regards,  J.Roderburg


HEAD -p http://wwwcache.uni-koeln.de:8080
http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip

200 OK
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:31:35 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Age: 361684
ETag: 3014d-233e3c-cbcb000
Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a
Content-Length: 2309692
Content-Type: application/zip
Last-Modified: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:08:16 GMT
Client-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:59:39 GMT
Client-Response-Num: 1
Proxy-Connection: close
X-Cache: HIT from wwwcache.uni-koeln.de


HEAD http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip

200 OK
Connection: close
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:00:48 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
ETag: 3016f-275cfc-f35fc640
Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a
Content-Length: 2579708
Content-Type: application/zip
Last-Modified: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:28:01 GMT
Client-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:00:48 GMT
Client-Response-Num: 1


wget.111-svn-0709 --debug http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip

DEBUG output created by Wget 1.10+devel on linux-gnu.

--16:04:16--  http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip
Resolving wwwcache.uni-koeln.de... 134.95.19.61
Caching wwwcache.uni-koeln.de = 134.95.19.61
Connecting to wwwcache.uni-koeln.de|134.95.19.61|:8080... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x080889b8 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
HEAD http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: download.lavasoft.com

---request end---
Proxy request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:31:35 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a
Last-Modified: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:08:16 GMT
ETag: 3014d-233e3c-cbcb000
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 2309692
Content-Type: application/zip
Age: 361961
X-Cache: HIT from wwwcache.uni-koeln.de
Proxy-Connection: close

---response end---
200 OK
Length: 2309692 (2.2M) [application/zip]
Closed fd 3
--16:04:16--  http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip
Found wwwcache.uni-koeln.de in host_name_addresses_map (0x80889b8)
Connecting to wwwcache.uni-koeln.de|134.95.19.61|:8080... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x080889b8 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
GET http://download.lavasoft.com/public/core.zip HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.10+devel
Accept: */*
Host: download.lavasoft.com

---request end---
Proxy request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:04:16 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a
Last-Modified: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:28:01 GMT
ETag: 2370002-275cfc-f35fc640
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 2579708
Content-Type: application/zip
X-Cache: MISS from wwwcache.uni-koeln.de
Proxy-Connection: close

---response end---
200 OK
Length: 2579708 (2.5M) [application/zip]
Saving to: `core.zip'

100%[=] 2,579,708155K/s  
in 15s

Closed fd 3
16:04:31 (169 KB/s) - `core.zip' saved [2579708/2579708]


ls -l core.zip

-rw-r- 1 a0045 RRZK 2579708 03.09.2007 10:28 core.zip



Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-02 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Zitat von Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've just merged a bunch of things into the current trunk, including
 Mauro's latest changes related to when HEAD is sent (concerning which he
 recently sent an email). Please feel free to beat on it, and report any
 bugs here!

Ah, finally something to test again  ;-)

The ChangeLogs look interesting, all the issues I had seem to be repaired.

I did only a few first tests now, because the basic test already had a problem:
With default options the local timestamps are not set at all.

I still made one series of tests regarding the HEAD/GET logic.

Options:  no spider, no -O, no content-disposition:

no timestamping, no local file   no HEAD   but: local timestamp not set to
remote
no timestamping,local file   no HEAD   but: local timestamp not set to
remote
   timestamping, no local file   no HEAD   but: local timestamp not set to
remote
   timestamping,local file  HEAD   local timestamp set to remote

In these cases the HEAD is now used again only for the case where it is
necessary, but the timestamp ..
One could think that it is now taken only from the HEAD and not from GET.

I'll see what happens in the case where the two are different, this can not
easily be constructed, must way till such a case just comes along  ;-)

Best Regards,
Jochen Roderburg
ZAIK/RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Germany




Re: Myriad merges

2007-09-02 Thread Micah Cowan
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Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 I did only a few first tests now, because the basic test already had a 
 problem:
 With default options the local timestamps are not set at all.
 
 Options:  no spider, no -O, no content-disposition:
 
 no timestamping, no local file   no HEAD   but: local timestamp not set to
 remote
 no timestamping,local file   no HEAD   but: local timestamp not set to
 remote
timestamping, no local file   no HEAD   but: local timestamp not set to
 remote
timestamping,local file  HEAD   local timestamp set to remote
 
 In these cases the HEAD is now used again only for the case where it is
 necessary, but the timestamp ..
 One could think that it is now taken only from the HEAD and not from GET.

Hm, that should not be. It should definitely set the timestamp if it
gets downloaded... I'll investigate.

OOC, was there a specific resource you tested against (just in case I
have difficulty reproducing)?

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Micah J. Cowan
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http://micah.cowan.name/

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