Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach 2

2006-09-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Use new BookmarkableLink(MyPage.class);


On 9/16/06, Scott Lusebrink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 here is a sample of what i was doing, ( i don't have my code infront of me
 but i'll try to be close)
 new BookmarkableLink(new MyPage())

 class MyPage
 public MyPage()
 {
 List options =DbUtil.getData()
 List selected = new ArrayList()
 add(new Palette(palette,new Model(selected),new Mode(options)...)
 }

 so if I have new bookmarkable link in a table wicket will go to the database
 and get data for every row of the table, instead of only getting the one set
 of data when you click the link.

 Hope this clearifize my problem
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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach 2

2006-09-16 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 9/16/06, Scott Lusebrink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
here is a sample of what i was doing, ( i don't have my code infront of me but i'll try to be close)
new BookmarkableLink(new MyPage())new BookmarkableLink(MyPage.class);
class MyPage
public MyPage()
{IModel choiceModel=new LoadableDetachableModel() { Object load() { return 
List options =DbUtil.getData()
}};
List selected = new ArrayList()
add(new Palette(palette,new Model(selected),choiceModel...)
}now you dont create the page needlessly, and even if you do the data wont be loaded from db until the palette needs it.-Igor
so if I have new bookmarkable link in a table wicket will go to the database and get data for every row of the table, instead of only getting the one set of data when you click the link.

Hope this clearifize my problem

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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-16 Thread Johan Compagner
PageLink also has constructors for a Class.A bookmarkable page link is what it says it creates a bookmarkable link But maybe you don't want that at allthen you can use a PageLink and the PageLink class with the IPageLink param i the constructor is an easy think
for lazy creating pages but directly with state.johanOn 9/16/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Why would you even create the page while you're actually linking toit? E.g, when you do (
2.0 code):because he wants to link to a page, the obvious component is PageLink and it takes a Page instance in its contructor - so its the most obvious way to link to a page for a noob. you guys keep outvoting me on removing that constructor, but its just causing problems :) The whole class is not even necessary. You have Link and BookmarkableLink, implementing the auto-enable is as simple as overriding isenabled().
-Igor

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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-16 Thread Eelco Hillenius
At the very least, I'd be +100 for removing the constructor with the
Page. The only thing that constructor does is encourage bad practice.

Eelco


On 9/16/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PageLink also has constructors for a Class.
 A bookmarkable page link is what it says it creates a bookmarkable link But
 maybe you don't want that at all
 then you can use a PageLink and the PageLink class with the IPageLink param
 i the constructor is an easy think
 for lazy creating pages but directly with state.

 johan



 On 9/16/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Why would you even create the page while you're actually linking to
   it? E.g, when you do ( 2.0 code):
 
 
 
 
  because he wants to link to a page, the obvious component is PageLink and
 it takes a Page instance in its contructor - so its the most obvious way to
 link to a page for a noob. you guys keep outvoting me on removing that
 constructor, but its just causing problems :) The whole class is not even
 necessary. You have Link and BookmarkableLink, implementing the auto-enable
 is as simple as overriding isenabled().
 
  -Igor
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
It does one thing and one thing good: create a link to an already
existing page. We use it quite often in our apps. I'm +1(00) for the
constructor to stay.

Read the docs and understand what you're doing. If we were to remove
everything that 'encourages' bad practice we wouldn't have a framework
left. Anything can and will be misused.

Martijn

On 9/16/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At the very least, I'd be +100 for removing the constructor with the
 Page. The only thing that constructor does is encourage bad practice.

 Eelco


 On 9/16/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  PageLink also has constructors for a Class.
  A bookmarkable page link is what it says it creates a bookmarkable link But
  maybe you don't want that at all
  then you can use a PageLink and the PageLink class with the IPageLink param
  i the constructor is an easy think
  for lazy creating pages but directly with state.
 
  johan
 
 
 
  On 9/16/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
Why would you even create the page while you're actually linking to
it? E.g, when you do ( 2.0 code):
  
  
  
  
   because he wants to link to a page, the obvious component is PageLink and
  it takes a Page instance in its contructor - so its the most obvious way to
  link to a page for a noob. you guys keep outvoting me on removing that
  constructor, but its just causing problems :) The whole class is not even
  necessary. You have Link and BookmarkableLink, implementing the auto-enable
  is as simple as overriding isenabled().
  
   -Igor
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-16 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 9/16/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It does one thing and one thing good: create a link to an already
 existing page. We use it quite often in our apps. I'm +1(00) for the
 constructor to stay.

For what are you using it? Hopefully only for things like linking back
to a page you passed in earlier. Which would easily be solved by:

new Link(this, back) {
  public void onClick() {
setResponsePage(otherPage);
  }
}

and if you really use that a lot, create your own component:

class MyPageLink extends Link {

  private final Page page;

  public MyPageLink(MarkupContainer parent, String id, Page page) {
this.page = page;
  }

  public void onClick() {
setResponsePage(page);
  }
}

That's not a lot of work, and at least the user would be fully aware
of the consequences.

 Read the docs and understand what you're doing. If we were to remove
 everything that 'encourages' bad practice we wouldn't have a framework
 left. Anything can and will be misused.

Yeah, let's forget about private, final and all those things and let's
just depend on the documentation.

;)

Eelco

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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-15 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 9/15/06, Scott Lusebrink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need a place where i can initialize a page, get data from the database and
 set the models of my components.  I assume I'm going to need the data before
 i set the models.

The models and the actual data they link to are different things.
Wicket models are in fact locators for that data, and they will only
be accessed (and attached if they are attachable) when needed.

 I know some components constructors require models to be
 passed in and can not be set later.

Most default components do not though. Which ones are you referring
to? Anyway, it doesn't matter much, as setting the model right on
construction (either by passing into to the constructor using
setModel) is the best practice. But you don't have to have the actual
data yet.

  The problem with doing this work in the
 constructor is that when Im making links to this page from somewhere else
 it will run all this database work when your on the page that links to it.
 (This really slows things down, i don't want to go to the DB until they
 click the link)

Why would you even create the page while you're actually linking to
it? E.g, when you do (2.0 code):

new Link(this, link) {
  onClick() {
setResponsePage(new MyPage());
  }
}

MyPage will only be constructed when the link is clicked. Furthermore,
look at PageLink and BookmarkablePageLink.

Read more about models here:
http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Models or here
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10189 and take a look
at the wicket-examples project.

Eelco

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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-15 Thread Igor Vaynberg
Why would you even create the page while you're actually linking toit? E.g, when you do (
2.0 code):because he wants to link to a page, the obvious component is PageLink and it takes a Page instance in its contructor - so its the most obvious way to link to a page for a noob. you guys keep outvoting me on removing that constructor, but its just causing problems :) The whole class is not even necessary. You have Link and BookmarkableLink, implementing the auto-enable is as simple as overriding isenabled().
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Re: [Wicket-user] constructors and on attach

2006-09-15 Thread Eelco Hillenius
 because he wants to link to a page, the obvious component is PageLink and it
 takes a Page instance in its contructor - so its the most obvious way to
 link to a page for a noob.

Erm. Maybe. I didn't get that from his email.

 you guys keep outvoting me on removing that
 constructor, but its just causing problems :) The whole class is not even
 necessary. You have Link and BookmarkableLink, implementing the auto-enable
 is as simple as overriding isenabled().

Huh? Who is 'you guys'? I don't remember a formal vote, and if there
would have been any the last year I would have voted +1 for removal -
certainly after we had setResponsePage. So start a vote then.

Eelco

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