[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443 --- Comment #5 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2012-07-27 12:06:02 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4) Regarding the problems Bawolff mentioned, this is very similar to other regexp-based extensions like the spam-blacklist, the title-blacklist and the abuse filter (aka edit filter). Of ourse only admins should be allowed to edit the regexps. And they have to be very careful, that's true; at least as careful as if they were editing the sbl, tbl or af. Abuse filter/spam blacklist mistakes are easier to fix than what is proposed here. I think collecting a list of wanted rules, and hardcoding those to MW is much more likely to succede than letting admins dynamically add such rules. (As it stands of course, one could do this on the js side already, but that is really icky). (Note MW does have some rules for adding nbsp in certain contexts. The rules just aren't all that complex) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443 --- Comment #6 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2012-07-27 17:18:13 UTC --- (In reply to comment #5) (Note MW does have some rules for adding nbsp in certain contexts. The rules just aren't all that complex) What are they, by the way? I think this is not documented anywhere, but it would important to keep it consistent if we add such a new rule. Right now I can remember only the separators for digits, used by formatnum, which is defined in the MessagesXx files and can be modified only there. Moreover, some such rules are defined by the [[International System of Units]] itself IIRC, and are not that easy to find, but may be included in some library already? The reporter/voters should probably do some investigation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443 Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it Component|General/Unknown |Parser -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443
--- Comment #4 from seth email_metawiki_...@wg-karlsruhe.de 2011-01-09
21:56:41 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
The proposed solution on de.wiki [...] is to add: wfMsgForContent(
'nbsp-before-word' ) = '\\1nbsp;\\2' to the $fixtags array in ~ line 302 of
Parser::parse in includes/parser/Parser.php.
Right. Or even better:
wfMsgForContent('auto-thinspace') = '\\1span
style=margin-left:0.167emspan style=display:nonenbsp;/span/span\\2'
This leads to thin spaces which are compatible with all common browsers, see
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Raphael_Frey/Labor#Browser-Unterst.C3.BCtzung
(the span-solution is the column called Übergangslösung)
Regarding the problems Bawolff mentioned, this is very similar to other
regexp-based extensions like the spam-blacklist, the title-blacklist and the
abuse filter (aka edit filter).
Of ourse only admins should be allowed to edit the regexps. And they have to be
very careful, that's true; at least as careful as if they were editing the sbl,
tbl or af.
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[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443 Matthias Becker matthiasbecker1...@yahoo.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||matthiasbecker1...@yahoo.de --- Comment #1 from Matthias Becker matthiasbecker1...@yahoo.de 2010-12-13 11:14:31 UTC --- Why not add non-braking space after a number in every case? That won't do any bad I think. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443 --- Comment #2 from seth email_metawiki_...@wg-karlsruhe.de 2010-12-13 22:34:33 UTC --- (In reply to comment #1) Why not add non-braking space after a number in every case? That won't do any bad I think. This would not solve the problem, because not all cases contain numbers (like the German abbreviation z.(thin non-breaking space)B.) Apart from that there are several false positives like In the year 2525 and ... where there shouldn't be a non-breaking space after the 2525. So I don't think this would be a good solution. I still believe that the already mentioned discussion at w:de (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia/Archiv/2009/Woche_01#.26nbsp.3B) gives a possible and good solution. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 18443] auto-insert of whitespace
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18443 --- Comment #3 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2010-12-13 23:25:36 UTC --- The proposed solution on de.wiki (if i can understand this right. Google translate for german sucks very very badly) is to add: wfMsgForContent( 'nbsp-before-word' ) = '\\1nbsp;\\2' to the $fixtags array in ~ line 302 of Parser::parse in includes/parser/Parser.php. In other words, have a system message with a regex to tell mediawiki where to put the non-breaking spaces. This seems like a bad idea. First someone is bound to put an invalid regex in there (that could probably be worked around by checking for validity). Allowing the users to add an arbitrary regex that gets executed on all text when parsing seems like begging for someone to put something evil in there. Regexes are powerful, you can do quite computationally intensive thingies with them, sometimes without meaning to. Additionally, mistakes could cause quite a mass of confusion. If someone for example set nbsp-before-word to be /./ say (or anything where they forgot the brackets), that would make the parser output only nonbreaking spaces, and break the entire site which would be quite disruptive. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
