[Bug 26663] Request for selecting a portion of media for playback

2011-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26663

Michael Dale d...@ucsc.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Michael Dale d...@ucsc.edu 2011-01-14 20:19:16 UTC ---
I have added temporal url support in r80284 and deployed it to the gadget. 

Its based on: 
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#fragment-dimensions

This works on video pages like so: 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folgers.ogv#t=10 ( start at 10 second go
to end ) 
or 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folgers.ogv#t=10,20 ( from 10 seconds to
20 seconds )

Until the updated timed media handler extension is deployed you have to use the
following template on videos to support time offsets ( Once we deploy the
updated timed media handler we can switch the template syntax over to the
proper format  )
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Temporal_Media_Fragment

Here is the example on commons:  
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mdale/TestTemporalUrls

Here is an example on wikisource:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Mdale/TestTemporalUrls?withJS=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js

If there is community consensus we could turn it on by default for wikisource.
( mwEmbed has been enabled by default in some other small wikis )

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[Bug 26663] Request for selecting a portion of media for playback

2011-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26663

Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #1 from Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org 2011-01-12 09:48:16 
UTC ---
This would probably be better/easier to implement in the Timed media handler of
mwEmbed. Moving to that target.

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[Bug 26663] Request for selecting a portion of media for playback

2011-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26663

Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|OggHandler  |Video player
Version|any |unspecified
 AssignedTo|tstarl...@wikimedia.org |d...@ucsc.edu
Product|MediaWiki extensions|mwEmbed

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[Bug 26663] Request for selecting a portion of media for playback

2011-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26663

--- Comment #2 from Michael Dale d...@ucsc.edu 2011-01-12 18:06:22 UTC ---
We did originally work on getting oggz_chop ( server side video segmentation) 
integrated on Wikimedia but ultimately were not successful in integration
because of scalability concerns. We were successful in helping get it
integrated at InternetArchive.org see a blog post I wrote about the feature a
while back http://metavid.org/blog/?p=191

What can easily add to the Timed Media Handler is http based seeks. This would
seek to the start time then stop at the end time ( but the browser would buffer
more than it needs since there is presently no way in the HTML5 spec to stop
the video from buffering ). But it would be a good start, and depending on how
the temporal url standard develops and the amount of time and interest we can
upgrade the http based seek system to better handle start / end times. 

Will update this bug once I have the feature in the TimedMediaHandler code

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[Bug 26663] Request for selecting a portion of media for playback

2011-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26663

--- Comment #3 from Theornamentalist theornamental...@gmail.com 2011-01-13 
04:28:37 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 We did originally work on getting oggz_chop ( server side video segmentation) 
 integrated on Wikimedia but ultimately were not successful in integration
 because of scalability concerns. We were successful in helping get it
 integrated at InternetArchive.org see a blog post I wrote about the feature a
 while back http://metavid.org/blog/?p=191
 
 What can easily add to the Timed Media Handler is http based seeks. This would
 seek to the start time then stop at the end time ( but the browser would 
 buffer
 more than it needs since there is presently no way in the HTML5 spec to stop
 the video from buffering ). But it would be a good start, and depending on how
 the temporal url standard develops and the amount of time and interest we can
 upgrade the http based seek system to better handle start / end times. 
 
 Will update this bug once I have the feature in the TimedMediaHandler code

Thanks Michael. As an example of a way that this modification could help in
verification on Wikisource (as seen, for example
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Babes_in_the_Wood), I've put together a page
which features a silent film http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Daydreams. The time
location seen on the left could link to the portion which is defined by the
start and end times, and allow for Wikisource to validate either text which
appears on screen or for the transcription of the audio.

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