[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #20 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- I think the current one is lessing confusing and more descriptive than the previous one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #21 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com --- (In reply to comment #17) The old name was clearer because it had a clear prefix, shell-, which clearly connected this keyword to its sibling (and opposite) shell. It's pretty lame that the keywords input on the Bugzilla form can't accept consensus as a match for community-consensus-needed. The input appears to be strictly prefix-based for suggestions. I suggest to keep shell (or shell's new name) as prefix. My general view here is that the keywords field is basically a tool for Bugzilla power-users and any random user who tries to use this field will invariably do it wrong. Even experienced users (like me!) will sometimes screw up, regardless of how clear the keyword _or_ its description text is. (And I agree that nobody ever reads these description texts.) Bugzilla keywords are simple markers of particular patterns. Let's not overcomplicate this. :-) shellpolicy was bad and community-consensus-needed is better. If we can find something even better than community-consensus-needed, we can use that. shell-onhold doesn't seem to be any better, though. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #22 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #21) (In reply to comment #17) The old name was clearer because it had a clear prefix, shell-, which clearly connected this keyword to its sibling (and opposite) shell. It's pretty lame that the keywords input on the Bugzilla form can't accept consensus as a match for community-consensus-needed. That's easy to fix, just drop the community- part. :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it --- Comment #14 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- shellpolicy is not only about community consensus needed, moreover the new name is too broad and vague (despite being so long) and is already causing disruption (see bug 56346). I suggest reverting. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #15 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to comment #14) shellpolicy is not only about community consensus needed What else? (I can imagine a little bit, but your descriptive words might simply be helpful to improve this.) , moreover the new name is too broad and vague (despite being so long) and is already causing disruption (see bug 56346). I suggest reverting. How was the old name clearer? Or any other proposal you have in mind? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||matma@gmail.com --- Comment #16 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- I think it's fine. But if we need to change it (again), maybe something like 'request-needs-consensus'? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #17 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #15) (In reply to comment #14) shellpolicy is not only about community consensus needed What else? (I can imagine a little bit, but your descriptive words might simply be helpful to improve this.) See comment 1, comment 7 and follow links; e.g. [[m:Limits to configuration changes]]. , moreover the new name is too broad and vague (despite being so long) and is already causing disruption (see bug 56346). I suggest reverting. How was the old name clearer? Or any other proposal you have in mind? The old name was clearer because it had a clear prefix, shell-, which clearly connected this keyword to its sibling (and opposite) shell. I suggest to keep shell (or shell's new name) as prefix. If policy is not a clear word, we could use on hold. So shell-onhold for instance. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #18 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Nemo: Could the keyword description in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi instead be improved (to mention that the request has to come from wiki communities, for example), or information on the linked page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #19 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #18) Nemo: Could the keyword description in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi instead be improved (to mention that the request has to come from wiki communities, for example), or information on the linked page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes ? Maybe, but people don't look at descriptions. Bad names are very hard to compensate, no description will avoid us the confusion with the current onw. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |aklap...@wikimedia.org |org | Summary|shellpolicy keyword is|shellpolicy keyword is |badly named |badly named - rename to ||community-consensus-needed || --- Comment #11 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Keyword name changed; description updated to link to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes , small improvement to wikipage made ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requesting_wiki_configuration_changesdiff=6331806oldid=5670215 ), and updated the one wikipage that mentioned shellpolicy ( https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Shell_requestsdiff=818355oldid=672352 ). Closing as RESOLVED FIXED. (In reply to comment #9) While updating this page, could you also remove all mentions of the patch-in-gerrit keyword since you removed it a while ago? Oops, thanks, also fixed now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #12 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org --- Yes, community-consensus-needed is a fine keyword, this will be clearer to understand by bugzilla newcomers. Thank you to have clarified this one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named - rename to community-consensus-needed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #13 from Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org --- Agreed. Thanks, Andre. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #10 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Petr, Dereckson, Snowolf: Any comments (or just an OK, I've seen this and don't care)? If not I'll go ahead soon. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #9 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net --- Not sure what's the purpose of comment 8, Andre seems to be working on the change, or is at least planning to. @Andre: I haven't been able to find any other documentation on MediaWiki.org, either, but I just remembered we have https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi. While updating this page, could you also remove all mentions of the patch-in-gerrit keyword since you removed it a while ago? Thanks :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||benap...@gmail.com, ||dereck...@espace-win.org, ||tom...@twkozlowski.net, ||wikimedia.b...@snowolf.eu --- Comment #5 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- So I think I'd go for community-consensus-needed. I am CC'ing the default CC members for Site requests on this report (Petr, Dereckson, Tomasz, Snowolf). The question is: Shall we rename shellpolicy to community-consensus-needed? I want you all to be aware (as you need to set this), and would love to get Good idea/Please don't do that/I don't care feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #6 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net --- I think this will be an improvement over the current situation; certainly it'll help us avoid confusion and make things easier for new Bugzilla users. I don't have any opinion about the exact wording of the new keyword; I'm OK with both needs-community-consensus and community-consensus-needed and will leave it up to you, Andre, to decide which version to introduce. Aside from updating the necessary documentation on MediaWiki.org, I suggest that you also drop a short announcement e-mail onto wikitech-l so people know about this change. (Yeah, I know that's obvious, but here we go.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 --- Comment #7 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- +1. Only docs I could find are https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Shell_requests -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||01tonytho...@gmail.com --- Comment #8 from Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #3) What is needed for this to be done? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tom...@twkozlowski.net --- Comment #4 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net --- (In reply to comment #3) What is needed for this to be done? Just a say so from Andre and his changing the keyword on lots of bugs updating documentation on MediaWiki.org. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au changed: What|Removed |Added CC||at.li...@live.com.au --- Comment #3 from This, that and the other at.li...@live.com.au --- What is needed for this to be done? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 49494] shellpolicy keyword is badly named
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49494 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Normal Summary|shellpolicy is badly |shellpolicy keyword is |named |badly named --- Comment #2 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- In general: +1. Maybe even rename it to needs-community-consensus? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
