[Wikidata] Re: [Small wiki toolkits] Final feedback session on Friday, October 28th, at 16:00 UTC

[Bináris]

I didn't know about this, beacuse I wasn't onboard for a while, so I try to
make up leeway. All but one recordings are public,
"How to write a basic script via Pywikibot" asks a permit. Is it on purpose?
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Re: [Wikidata] Next office hour on November 5th on Telegram

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Fabrizio Carrai  ezt írta (időpont: 2019. okt.
15., K, 12:22):

> Hello Gerard,
> Telegram just need a phone number to complete the activation, then you can
> use any connected device, like pc, via web, tablet, etc...
>

I think he sees a data protection issue. Why to narrow the scope of
participants to those willing to give their phone number to a 3rd party
provider?
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Re: [Wikidata] Birthday: 10 amazing queries, new chart visualizations and more documentation!

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%20BY%20%3Fcid%20%3Fcause%20%3Fyear>.
> Some of these views are animated, and you can play with it by moving the
> cursor over the chart, clicking on the legend labels to filter...
>
> Thanks a lot to Jonas who worked very hard on this so these new features
> are perfectly ready for the birthday! If you have questions or find a bug,
> please ping one of us.
>
> We also worked on documentation: have a look to the page *presenting all
> the types of views
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/Wikidata_Query_Help/Result_Views>*
> that WDQS can provide. Don't hesitate to improve it or translate it in your
> language! Again, thank you Jonas for spending time on improving the doc.
>
> Speaking about documentation, I need to present you this very cool *guide
> to SPARQL and the Wikidata Query Service
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:TweetsFactsAndQueries/A_Guide_To_WDQS>*
> written by WikidataFacts. We know that understanding how SPARQL works is
> not easy for beginners, and every help is welcomed to improve our actual
> documentation :) Feel free to give your feedbacks about this work. Thanks
> WikidataFacts for this birthday present!
>
> Last but not least, we have a story about queries. Jens and Cornelius
> wrote a blog post called *"10 cool queries for Wikidata that will blow
> your mind. Number 7 will shock you.
> <https://blog.wikimedia.de/2016/10/30/10-cool-queries-for-wikidata-that-will-blow-your-mind-number-7-will-shock-you/>"*
> (also available in German
> <https://blog.wikimedia.de/2016/10/30/10-coole-wikidata-abfragen-die-dir-neue-horizonte-eroeffnen-nummer-7-wird-dich-schockieren/>)
> That's not on BuzzFeed (Q5003490) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5003490>
> but on the WMDE blog and it's a nice way to introduce newcomers to queries.
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> That's all for today, I let you enjoy your Sunday and I'll be back
> tomorrow. By the way, Sunday is a good day to try new queries: if you want
> to share yours, ask for help on a difficult one or give some advices, join
> us on Twitter with the hashtag #SundayQuery
> <https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets=default=%23SundayQuery=typd>
>  ;)
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Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata's 4th birthday: we need you!

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And don't forget to carve into the golden book of Wikidata's history the
day when the client was first used in a Wikipedia. :-)
https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Triatlon=231656=12906358=12683097
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Re: [Wikidata] Grammatical display of units

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2016-07-28 9:21 GMT+02:00 Markus Kroetzsch :

>  Or are there languages with more complex grammar rules for units?
>

Russian is pretty complicated, using singular nominative, singular genitive
and plural genitive based on the number, as examples in the initial letter
show.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Pushing Wikidata to the next level

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Congrats and thanks again to Denny!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] A personal note, and a secret

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That was nice, Denny. The WD team has really built something grandious from
sratch. And it was nice to meet you in D.C. Thanks for all, and good luck
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[Wikidata-l] Multi-storey signatures (was: personal secret)

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Scott, are you aware of your signature (not including the quoted text)
taking cca. two entire screens in gmail? I know it's my problem, because
using a standalone mail client it would fit into merely one screen...
However it's a bit annoying. Old-style classic Netiquette suggests at most
4 lines of signature, not a double-decker.

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[Wikidata-l] Page history and properties

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A good question from huwiki:

When I click on an earlier version of the page in the history, will the
then-value of the property be shown or the current value?
If I read the 2013 version of [[United States of America]] in 2018, will
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Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

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Congratulations!!!
And it has just been announced in huwiki.

2013/3/27 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de

 Heya folks :)

 Data inclusion from Wikidata is now now possible on the first 11
 Wikipedias. Woh!
 http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/03/27/you-can-have-all-the-data/ has more
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[Wikidata-l] The first question after deployment of phase 2

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This is the first Wikidata 2 edit in Hungarian Wikipedia:
http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magyarorsz%C3%A1gcurid=115diff=13394408oldid=13378794

I tried to replace the official language first, but it is linked in the
infobox as [[magyar nyelv|magyar]]. How can I use properties here?
The second thought was .hu, the TLD, but its value in the infobox is
currently hu which is translated to [[.hu]] by the infobox template, so
after inclusion from WD it became [[..hu]] which is of course red. How can
I use that? Shall we rebuild all the infoboxes?

Other items are either missing from the infobox or from WD, so the reason
to choose the president whom I dislike was that his name appears both in WD
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Re: [Wikidata-l] chancelier du reich, chancelier du reich und reichskanzler

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2013/3/19 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com

 wie würde man eigentlich:
 * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskanzler
 * http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancelier_du_Reich
 * http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancelier_imp%C3%A9rial
 korrekt verlinken?


This is not a WIkidata question, this is an interwiki question, if you
understand the difference. I mean WD is a technical tool, but articles of
different wikis won't fit to each other better because we have WD; if you
couldn't link articles before WD correctly, it won't be easier now.
Unfortunately, these problems will exist for long terms.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] gene templates - wikidata, when?

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Of course, I know what I speak about. Please let me think a few weeks in
advance. Yes, we definitely have to speak about the purpose of the project.
Tha basic question is of course how to transfer data from outer sources to
Wikidata properties, this is the only important point in the whole thread.

2013/3/1 Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com

 Sorry to be the contrarian, but I'm not sure we should be talking about
 pulling data from Wikidata into Wikipedia until the devs announce that they
 are close to deploying it. It makes no sense to build an infrastructure now
 if the assumptions about functionality and API that you're basing the
 infrastructure on aren't officially locked in yet.

 Sven

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 2013/3/1 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com

 There will soon be a mechanism where Wikipedia can display data from
 Wikidata directly, as it currently does with the language links. No need to
 bot-edit Wikipedia.

 Yes, yes, that's what I speak about. :-)
 As phase 2 is working now in Wikidata repo, this is the good time to
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Re: [Wikidata-l] gene templates - wikidata, when?

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It is now public that first deployment of phase 2 client is scheduled to
end of this month in the same three Wikipedias that were the first to use
phase 1: hu, he and it. So it is definitely not some foggy future, and
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Re: [Wikidata-l] When will be the next wikidata dump?

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2013/3/1 Jianyong Zhang zhjy...@gmail.com


 I'm wondering how people handle such failure. Can it be fixed soon, or we
 have to wait another 11-12 days for next dump?

Some people don't bother, some get angry or frustrated. It depends on your
personality and in my case on the time elpased since last successfull dump.
I remember when there was a puse for 4 months, that involved me deeply.
This is just an accident. :-)
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Re: [Wikidata-l] gene templates - wikidata, when?

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Hi Benjamin,

there is a similar task. I am not sure this fits here. Hungarian Wikipedia
lists the redlist status of species of plants and animals (threatened, not
threatened etc.). There is a request to update this by bot from
http://www.iucnredlist.org/. Also biological property, also listed in
templates and also originates from an external database. I told them to
wait for Wikidata phase 2, which is now alive, but what next? Do you think
these tasks are related?

2013/3/1 Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.g...@gmail.com

 I am considering the task of converting the templates from the gene
 articles in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Gene_Wiki) to
 use/create wikidata assertions.  This involves an extensive update of the
 template structure as well as the code for the bot that keeps them in sync
 with external public databases.  (https://bitbucket.org/sulab/pygenewiki)

 More specifically I'm thinking about working with a Google Summer of Code
 student on this project.

 Given a time frame of now through August, would it make sense for us to
 pursue this objective directly in the context of wikidata (through the
 public API).  Or would it be better for us to install our own version of
 the wikibase software (kept in sync with code updates) and develop the new
 gene wiki bot code locally with the aim of switching to the public API
 later?  Or is it too early to consider this project?

 I want to get involved and support wikidata with this important data, but
 I'm hesitant to ramp up development (especially with a student) in a moving
 target situation.

 Any thoughts?
 thanks!
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Disambiguation in property names

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Oh, that's great! So there will be a dictionary to substitute the
property names with appearing names or soething like that? Or will it be
determined template by template?
So this is the solution to avoid identical property names: an extension in
parentheses.

2013/2/20 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de

 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  there was a talk (here or on project talk, I don't remember) about
 identical
  names of properties. In several languages sex (=being male or female) and
  genus in biology have the same name which is prohibited in property
 names.
 
  Now, I see ország (rendszertan) (P75) in recent changes; ország means
  country and it also has the biological meaning (plants, animals...)
 
  A good solution would be if these disambiguating words in parentheses
 could
  disappear when applying them in phase 2 client. Then we could encourage
  people to use this form.
  As we say in Hungary, both the goat has enough and the cabbage remains.
  I am not sure if I was clear, tell me if not.

 So to make sure I get this right: you're talking about how this is
 shown on the client, so in this case in the article on Wikipedia? If
 so then the name of the property shouldn't have any influence on how
 it is shown there. The local editors can code their new infobox and
 give it whatever label they want pretty much.


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Re: [Wikidata-l] first parts of phase 2 live on wikidata.org now

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This two words are identical in Hungarian, too.

2013/2/6 Dennis Tobar dennis.to...@gmail.com

 Hi:

 As we know, two properties may have the same name. In Spanish we call
 género to two topics: gender (P21) and genus (P74). The first is related
 to sex and second to taxonomic categoy. So, if we call both as género,
 the site doesn't allow it (Edit not allowed: Otra propiedad (21) ya tiene
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Re: [Wikidata-l] first parts of phase 2 live on wikidata.org now

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Congrats!

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Re: [Wikidata-l] getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia

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2013/1/29 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de



 Have you looked at the link I posted? What exactly is missing for you
 to do what you want to do?


 As far as I see, these are just code fragments, Lego elements to build
something from, but they are not yet integrated into interwiki.py.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links

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Could this order be automatically determined for each Wikipedia?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_sorting_order
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata and PWB

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2012/12/10 Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com

 Finally the bug is solved. you can get and set items on wikidata via PWB

Thanks, Amir, you are the king!!!



 page=wikipedia.wikidataPage(site,Helium)
 text=page.getentity()


This one works, but I don't understand. I tried with Q#... previously that
does not work. But what is the title then? Always English? Where is the Q
number? How can I find an item from another language?
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata deployment schedule

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Hi Lydia,

Is the API changed now? My pywiki bot still does not work.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Installing WikiData for testing and development

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2012/11/19 Lukas Benedix bene...@zedat.fu-berlin.de

 the vagrant-setup is almost working...

 I can open the client and the repo, but there is nothing in it... The
 instruction says: Both repo and client contain the chemical elements as
 test data


I think this concerns to the central test database. Try
http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Q344 which is really an element.
I would be surprised if any newly installed software contained actual data.

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[Wikidata-l] Pseudo-empty items

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Hi folks,

have a look at
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q49382rcid=449383setlang=hu
This item has a German label with no link and nothing else.
My question is not if it is useful or not (this is up to the community) but
why do I see it completely empty when I set a language other than German?
Why do I not see descriptions in every language, only in my chosen one?
Why can I edit description only in my chosen language?
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Pseudo-empty items

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I hope these are transitional problems only. In this case there was only
one language, so fallback was not really relevant (the item has been
deleted since). But it woul dreally be strange if the text disappeared upon
adding the second language version. Perhaps it would be a solution to
display them in chronological order until fallback is established.

Gadgets are great, but I hope to see basic functions in the core.

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[Wikidata-l] Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel

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Hi folks,

Where is
http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel in
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[Wikidata-l] MerlIwBot

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Could
http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=User:MerlIwBotplease
create a user page that leads to a real user to talk to? TIA

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Re: [Wikidata-l] MerlIwBot

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2012/7/12 Snaevar snaevar-w...@gmx.com

 The bot operator of MerlIwBot is Merlissimo. His homewiki is on the german
 wikipedia. You can contact him on this userpage:
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Merlissimo

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Re: [Wikidata-l] less hard-core version of the data model

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I like it and I think it will be readable for many non-technical
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Translations on Meta

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2012/5/30 Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com


 Hi! I've done a very dirty hack on the page to get the interwiki redirect
 back, although I agree it looks horrible and there's no adequate solution
 for it at the moment. I couldn't just create empty paragraphs so I had to
 put !-- comment --. Unfortunately if the page is updated and marked for
 translation again then this will revert - this needs discussion with the
 Localisation team.


Yes, that's what I don't want to accept. :-( Thanks anyway! I will perhaps
set a contrabot to revert destructions by Fuzzybot. :-)

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