[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-09-29 Thread Esc3300
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  What "constraints" will there be (this is currently step #3)
  
  In T285156#7388535 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156#7388535>, 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  > - Could this solution somehow backfire? -> several answers in this thread 
that we will weigh and see if they warrant any action
  
  Can yo propose something?
  
  Step #3 mentions constraints. What will they be?

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  If this is the only open point, can you summarize how the open points 
mentioned in the task description had been addressed ?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  Apparently there is a disagreement between Lucas and his manager about 
description editing.
  
  Can you at least explain which parts you consider my personal opinion and 
which ones are not supported by a consensus (ideally with a link to the 
relevant discussion)?

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  Changes for task description are:
  
  | Before my edit  



  | After my edit (later deleted without an explanation or 
justification   




 | Reason   

|
  | 
-
 | 
---
 | 

 |
  | editors having to create and maintain redundant content (copying the same 
thing to most/all languages creates massive amounts of edits and is a huge 
waste of resources) 

 | editors having to create and maintain redundant 
content (copying the same thing to most/all languages could create massive 
amounts of edits and is a huge waste of resources)  



 | all descriptions and labels 
can be added in a single edit   
 |
  | Problem 



  | Problem 





| [header repeated for clarity] 

   |
  | 



  | user tend to fill in empty label fields, especially when a 
description in the language is present

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  In T285156#7388192 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156#7388192>, 
@Mahir256 wrote:
  
  >> please refrain from editing the task description while the discussion is 
ongoing. It is inappropriate to masquerade your personal opinion as the 
hard-won consensus that we are trying to achieve here.
  >
  > This message (especially the latter part) is enough of a reason
  
  @Mahir Can you explain which parts the later part covers? If not, please 
refrain from making such comments in phabricator or elsewhere.

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  In T285156#7388183 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156#7388183>, 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  > @Esc3300 For clarification: Lucas and I spent a lot of time yesterday on 
getting everything to a point where we believe it is sensible and the remaining 
questions are clarified. It'd be good to concentrate the discussion on those 
remaining points now
  
  Ok. What's to proposal for the various points in how it may backfire? And 
finally which script do you want to start with

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2021-09-29 Thread Esc3300
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  Can you explain the reminder of your deletions?  Above what you deleted from 
the description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  Odd that some of known issues shouldn't be stated in the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE  that should have been. I removed Mahir256 as they 
seem to be doing nonsensical edits to subscribers.

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  @LucasWerkmeister  Can you outline which of the deleted points you consider 
problematic?  Lydia generally wants to summary in task descriptions to be up-to 
date. If you just remove stuff, we are missing out on information.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  OTH, name items only need one label and transliterations could go into 
statements. So the setting would be "mul" + name > no other labels.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  @Epidosis
  
  The problem with "mul" is that we couldn't easily have the software test if 
there should be ru/uk label (as for "John"), but no la/fr/en label on name 
items.
  
  While when we have "mul-latn" and name, we could avoid adding la/fr/en, but 
not ru/uk.
  
  I don't mind testing it with disambiguation pages, but in general, I still 
think T139912 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139912> is worthwhile. Maybe 
asteroids could be another test field.
  
  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q59238742 might be tricky. @en and @mul-latn 
would have the same label (unless we decide that such items should only have 
@it and @en)
  
  In any case, I like the idea that all these items would get much lighter.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  @Epidosis  for that sample, it seems clear-cut, but for Q191118 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q191118> one could imagine Cyrillic "т" as "mul" 
label.
  
  Interesting question about the fall-back chain from Lydia. Maybe we should 
give more thought about the language code applicable to taxon names. Its code 
could then be part of the fall-back chain and the value displayed when 
available.  There is some discussion on Wikidata 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P225#IETF_tag_for_values_and_its_parts>
 what the code should be. Let's assume it's "la-x-taxon". We could have 
languages fall back to that and it could easily be read.
  
  Personally, I rather see a feature that prevents re-additions for items with 
specific types (P31 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P31>=..) before we 
experiment with deletions. Maybe some sort of protection setting could work 
too. Sample: if there is mul-latn, there shouldn't be en,it,es, .. This would 
work for name items, but also disambiguation items, possible others.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  @Epidosis What should happen when mul is in Cyrillic ? You seem to assume 
mul-latn.
  
  I'm somewhat worried that all these deletions will lead to the people adding 
"Giovanni"@it to "John"@en and we are back to where we were years ago.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290857: Add monolingual language codes for Oïl languages family : Gallo language, Lorrain language

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291906: Prevent creation of properties having the same label

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  Agree with that. Already T289473 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289473> 
seemed rare to me.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282790: [EPIC] Get estimates for dropping data from Wikidata in case of Blazegraph catastrophic failure

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  Couldn't we save a lot by simplifying descriptions? (saving which template 
applies instead of storing the actual string for every language).
  
  Also, dropping items for disambiguation might save a lot.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

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  Interesting data, the question is what conclusions to draw from it for 
practical use cases at Wikidata.
  
  Initially the property "unit symbol" had string datatype, possibly because of 
a similar reasoning as the above. Latin script unit symbols were deemed useful 
for any language.
  
  After property proposal for what would be "unit symbol" (P5061) 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/unit_symbol_(change_datatype)>
 this was changed to monolingual string as the units for languages written in 
Cyrillic don't use Latin script symbols. Essentially, we would have "t"@en for 
all Latin script languages and "т"@ru, "т"@uk (sample from Q191118 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q191118>).
  
  If "mul" will be "mul-latn", as other languages wont generally have a use 
"mul", the question is if "mul" should include non-Latin script text at all (or 
not).
  
  - If it does include non-Latin script text, it may include strings that are 
not useful for non Latin script languages
  - If it shouldn't include non-Latin script text, it's not clear what the use 
should be for languages that aren't written in Latin script if any. Also, it 
may be similar to the current use of "en".
  
  The conclusion for use cases above may be that we should create "mul-latn" 
only.
  
  Maybe some insight could be gained from languages where we currently have 
three codes, e.g. sr, sr-Latn, sr-Cyr where "sr" can contain either. I wonder 
how and where it's actually used.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291205: Analysis: Property usage by items' P31

2021-09-20 Thread Esc3300
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  Isn't that what property suggestor does?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T57755: Allow time values more precise than day on Wikidata

2021-09-20 Thread Esc3300
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  I added short summary about the current situation at 
Help:Dates#Hours,_minutes_and_seconds 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Dates#Hours,_minutes_and_seconds>.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290857: Add monolingual language codes for Oïl languages, Gallo language, Lorrain language

2021-09-19 Thread Esc3300
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  In T290857#7347938 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290857#7347938>, 
@Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE wrote:
  
  > @Amire80 Could you confirm whether these languages have valid IETF language 
tags.
  
  all languages do

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290857: Add monolingual language codes for Oïl languages, Gallo language, Lorrain language

2021-09-19 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled".
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  please add samples

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291340: additional services as alternatives to current WDQS use

2021-09-19 Thread Esc3300
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  From the explanation given by @So9q on project chat 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2021/08#Blazegraph_is_unmaintained_and_does_not_scale_-_is_JanusGraph_a_viable_replacement_for_WDQS?>,
 it seems interesting to be able to use (or learn to use) other graph 
languages, such as Gremlin <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5607337>.
  
  This doesn't need to be over the entire database, but a subset could be 
sufficient.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-09-19 Thread Esc3300
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  A reason we started adding identical labels to different languages for family 
name / given name items is to avoid that users try to translate the label, e.g. 
family name "Taylor"@en shouldn't have "Tailleur"@fr   "Schneider"@de. In 
languages with different scripts, transliterations are ok.
  
  For these items, if there is a constraint, it should definitely not suggest 
to add a different labels for these items.
  
  So if identical labels were to be deleted (or no longer added), there should 
be a feature to prevent (re-)addition of any label to the languages.
  
  A solution I proposed to this once was 
[[Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Names#New_datatype:_monostring_item|monostring_item]]
 (2015). Not sure how that could practically work out today though.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157809: correct language name "nederlandsk" for language code "nl" in Danish, add to LocalNamesDa

2021-09-19 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T44325: Prevent creation of items having the same sitelinks (duplicates)

2021-09-19 Thread Esc3300
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  Recent sample:
  
  - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108028460
  - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108028461
  - both created by the same tool with sitelink to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_David_McKie

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-09-12 Thread Esc3300
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  I don't want to dig on this further. Thanks for having it fixed.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157809: correct language name "nederlandsk" for language code "nl" in Danish, add to LocalNamesDa

2021-09-12 Thread Esc3300
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  I think it needs `?uselang=en` for the link to work if you are logged-in and 
not using English. It's still on the linked project chat page.
  
  Wikidata uses that language name in millions of pages for Danish language 
users, so it's an important, if not only, user of the language name.
  
  I suppose I could ask on Commons as well (some templates may use it), but I'm 
not sure where they would usually discuss it there (if they actually do). Can 
you point me to the page?
  
  Any other projects making use of the language name?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-09-12 Thread Esc3300
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  From T263946 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263946> it looks like it 
followed the usual process for new codes for Wikidata. Also it was 
tested/marked as resolved by WMDE staff.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287732: Allow filtering property searches by datatype

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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  Let me try to translate contributor speak to something actionable:
  
  That search currently finds 273 properties, starting with
  
  - author (P50 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P50>) main creator(s) of a 
written work (use on works, not humans); use P2093 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2093> when Wikidata item is unknown or does 
not exist
  - lyrics by (P676 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P676>) : author of song 
lyrics
  - Dialnet author ID (P1607 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P1607>):  
identifier of an author in Dialnet
  - Dimensions author ID (P6178 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6178>): 
unique identifier for an author in Dimensions
  - LibriVox author ID (P1899 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P1899>): 
author ID for an author represented at LibriVox
  
  For deciding which item to use to link another item, one would want to view 
only properties with datatype "Wikibase-item". However, as many external 
identifier properties are for authors, these appear in bulk.
  
  Sample simulation on query server: search 
<https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fentity%20%3FentityLabel%20%3FentityDescription%20%3FentityAltLabel%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%3Fentity%20wikibase%3ApropertyType%20wikibase%3AWikibaseItem.%0A%20%20%3Fentity%20%28rdfs%3Alabel%7Cschema%3Adescription%29%20%3Fl.%0A%20%20FILTER%28%20LANG%28%3Fl%29%20%3D%20%22en%22%20%26%26%20REGEX%28%3Fl%2C%20%22author%22%29%20%29%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER%20BY%20%28%3Fl%20%21%3D%20%22author%22%40en%29>
  
  Maybe a way to solve this is to prioritize properties by datatype (first 
item, last external id). Search for external id properties might be done by the 
name of their org anyways.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290504: provide some measure of usage of items in query service

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290504: provide some measure of usage of items in query service

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290504: provide some measure of usage of items in query service

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195178: New constraint type to ensure that Items have a Label in a specific language

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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  Test onwiki: constraint addition 
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5859=1494018874=1440536809>,
 sample statement <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q451369#P5859>

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T173432: Sort claims of a property in meaningful way

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a subtask: T290481: group monolingual text statements by language 
or language code.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290481: group monolingual text statements by language or language code

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290481: group monolingual text statements by language or language code

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Feature summary** (what you would like to be able to do and where):
  On Wikidata, some properties with monolingual string datatype have multiple 
statements, one or several for each language. Statements for a given language, 
are generally considered together.
  
  **Use case(s)** (list the steps that you performed to discover that problem, 
and describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve. Do not 
describe only a solution):
  
  - Q185099#P1843 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q185099#P1843> taxon Common 
name for "Water Rail". English, French, Latvian and Dutch have multiple 
statements (query 
<https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Flang%20%28COUNT%28%2a%29%20AS%20%3Fcount%29%20%28GROUP_CONCAT%28%3Fcommonname%3B%20separator%3D%22%2C%20%22%29%20as%20%3Fnames%29%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20wd%3AQ185099%20wdt%3AP1843%20%3Fcommonname.%0A%20%20BIND%28LANG%28%3Fcommonname%29%20AS%20%3Flang%29%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Flang%0AHAVING%20%28%20%3Fcount%20%3E%201%29%20%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Fcount%29>).
  
  Similarly other items with statements of the same property 
(Property_talk:P1843 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P1843> counts 
578,859 statements, these are on different 147471 items). Other properties 
where this may be useful:
  
  - demonym (P1549) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1549>
  - female form of label (P2521) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2521>
  
  The question is independent of the inclusion of one or the other values and 
the sorting of such statements by value or language.
  
  **Benefits** (why should this be implemented?):
  Makes statements quicker to read (by humans).
  
  **Discussion on Wikidata project chat**
  
  - September 2021 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Duplicates_in_taxon_common_name_(P1843)_with_different_capitalization>
 (permalink 
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat=1494002078#Duplicates_in_taxon_common_name_(P1843)_with_different_capitalization>)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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  @Lydia_Pintscher  can WMDE pick this up? It's a fix to something that 
previously slipped through the checks.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290007: Add monolingual language code gil

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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  @jhsoby do you want to be pinged or did you already see this as you are also 
following workboard/project directly?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290007: Add monolingual language code gil

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290007: Add monolingual language code gil

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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  To find them: gil 
<https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%2a%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20p%3AP1843%20%5B%20ps%3AP1843%20%3Fcommonname%20%3B%20pq%3AP407%20wd%3AQ30898%20%5D%20%7D>.
  
  Currently, it's just one. Once there are more, I'd also request them for 
labels.
  
  Please make a separate request for tvl (query 
<https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%2a%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20p%3AP1843%20%5B%20ps%3AP1843%20%3Fcommonname%20%3B%20pq%3AP407%20wd%3AQ34055%20%5D%20%7D>)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287563: slow indexing of new Items on Wikidata?

2021-09-07 Thread Esc3300
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  I'm not sure if everybody knows what "60s" or "162s" (what may seem quick) 
actually means to editors: it's the time they wait between creating the item 
and adding it as a statement value (which there seems long).
  
  Personally, I paste qids as search isn't efficient for this.
  
  An alternative could be to finally build a feature that allows creating new 
items directly from statement entry (e.g. type a label, click "create person 
item").

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290143: Sort multiple statements for the same property by date qualifier

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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  It's actually more of a subtask, simple, understandable and straightforward 
to implement.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T173432: Sort claims of a property in meaningful way

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a subtask: T290143: Sort multiple statements for the same 
property by date qualifier .

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290143: Sort multiple statements for the same property by date qualifier

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a parent task: T173432: Sort claims of a property in meaningful 
way.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290143: Sort multiple statements for the same property by date qualifier

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 reopened this task as "Open".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290007: Add monolingual language code gil

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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  If you just want to add statements with 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1843 enabling the code for monolingual 
text properties is sufficient.
  
  The intermediary step would be to add the values like this 
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3015052=1490961525=1489995191>.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment.


  @Mbch331  if you have a moment, would you patch this? Alternatively, I would 
have to ask WMDE. It's a potentially problematic ambiguity.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290007: Add monolingual language code gil

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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  The sample is for a label, but the request is for "monolingual text". Which 
one do you want?
  
  Please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/4981/

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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  So langcom review isn't needed here? Ok.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290143: Sort multiple statements for the same property by date qualifier

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Feature summary** (what you would like to be able to do and where):
  At Wikidata, for properties with multiple values on the same item, sort these 
statements by date qualifier.
  
  **Use case(s)** (list the steps that you performed to discover that problem, 
and describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve. Do not 
describe only a solution):
  
  - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q64#P1082 has multiple statements. They 
should be display ordered by the value of the qualifier P858 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P585>.
  
  **Benefits** (why should this be implemented?):
  
  It's human readable. A value for a given date, if present, is at a 
predictable place.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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  For clarity's sake, maybe we should hold discussions about editorial choices 
on Wikidata directly. Also langcom members should stated that they are 
expressing the langcom view and reference the policy or procedure they are 
using to base their argument on. It may also be preferable if, when a user who 
is a langcom member, requests a new code, they don't express any langcom view 
on the code. Alternatively, it may seem that the process is somewhat random or 
arbitrary.
  
  At this stage, it seems clear that:
  
  - the request for the new code is complete with samples
  - langcom is aware of the request and hasn't raised any concerns within the 
scope of their review activity
  - there is a consensus on Wikidata to use new code
  
  If there are any technical points developers or product people want us to 
look into, please say so.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-09-01 Thread Esc3300
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  Good question about the fallback. Currently the fallback is to "en", so maybe 
the fallback for English (or French) should be:
  
  en > mul-latn > mul > en
  
  fr > mul-latn > mul > en
  
  Let's bear in mind that the language code on labels doesn't have the same 
function as on monolingual text and incubator.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235292: Add P4224 to wgWBQualityConstraintsPropertiesWithViolatingQualifiers

2021-08-17 Thread Esc3300
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  Good. Just noticed that we discussed this 3 years ago .. on talk of that help 
page. Maybe flag it for follow-up in 2024 then ;)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235292: Add P4224 to wgWBQualityConstraintsPropertiesWithViolatingQualifiers

2021-08-17 Thread Esc3300
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  BTW, I noted it as an exception at 
Help:Property_constraints_portal/Property_Scope_Constraint 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Property_Scope_Constraint>.
 Obviously, it applies to other constraints too, but less importantly so.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286257: Insights from the Wikidata Languages Landscape project

2021-08-17 Thread Esc3300
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  Here is a sample of the uniqueness count I had in mind https://w.wiki/3ub4 . 
The sample is only across three items.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235292: Add P4224 to wgWBQualityConstraintsPropertiesWithViolatingQualifiers

2021-08-17 Thread Esc3300
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  When doing this, please add "is a list of" (P360) 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P360> as well.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288734: use page number qualifier when generating images in Wikidata for multipage djvu/pdf

2021-08-14 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288734: use page number qualifier when generating images in Wikidata for multipage djvu/pdf

2021-08-14 Thread Esc3300
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  I added some of the participants of the related property proposal discussions 
as subscribers.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288734: use page number qualifier when generating images in Wikidata for multipage djvu/pdf

2021-08-14 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added subscribers: NMaia, Jheald, Jarekt, MauricioGenta.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T277855: Support "separators" parameter for distinct value constraints

2021-08-14 Thread Esc3300
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  It could be interesting to get this to work for identifiers that are 
re-assigned, e.g. ISO country codes or airport codes.
  
  Start/end date qualifiers differentiate them. An "identifier shared with" 
qualifier could work too.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288734: use page number qualifier when generating images in Wikidata for multipage djvu/pdf

2021-08-14 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288734: use page number qualifier when generating images in Wikidata for multipage djvu/pdf

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
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  Seems that there was an attempt to implement this in August 2013: T53071 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53071> , abandoned in March 2014 after a 
few code rewrite requests weren't addressed: 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81001

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288335: Include Aghem(agq) Language support on Wikidata

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
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  It's explained at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/4981/
  
  Ideally you would link the Wikidata items and provide the label/description 
you try to add to these, but currently can't.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288335: Include Aghem(agq) Language support on Wikidata

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled".
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  Given the absence of samples

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263946: Add support for some African Languages on Wikidata

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 changed the status of subtask T288335: Include Aghem(agq) Language  
support on Wikidata from Open to Stalled.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
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  Given some of the samples, I suppose we should have both, "mul" and 
"mul-

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288734: use page number qualifier when generating images in Wikidata for multipage djvu/pdf

2021-08-12 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 created this task.
Esc3300 added projects: Wikidata, Wikidata.org.
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Feature summary** (what you would like to be able to do):
  
  This is a feature for Commons_media datatype 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Data_type#Commons_media> on Wikidata.org:
  
  If a Commons file has several pages (e.g. a djvu or pdf), the thumbnail is 
currently generated from page 1. This can be relevant or just a mostly blank 
cover sheet.
  
  Sample: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q75803176#P996
  
  Wikidata uses the qualifier "file page" (P7668) 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7668> to indicate which page should be 
displayed.
  
  There is also the qualifier "title page number" (P4714) 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4714>. If both are present, P7668 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P7668> should be used.
  
  **Steps to reproduce** (a list of clear steps to create the situation that 
made you report this, including full links if applicable):
  
  - Go to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q75803176#P996 that has the qualifier 
P7668 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P7668> with value 160
  - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Emily_Dickinson_Poems_(1890).djvu 
is displayed
  - Expected: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AEmily_Dickinson_Poems_(1890).djvu=160
  
  **Uses** (as of August 2021):
  
  - 2392 uses of "title page number" (see 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P4714 )
  - 7307 uses of "file page number" (see 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7668 )

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272120: Deleted item still gets shown in WDQS query results

2021-08-09 Thread Esc3300
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  @dcausse  would you re-run the script this week? We deleted a series of items 
last weekend on WD

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-08-09 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment.


  @Manuel is this in any way related to this request ?  While general questions 
can be interesting, they tend be not easily solved in wikis. T51024 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51024> (from 2013) might have waited for 
that too.
  
  If the question is just about invalid labels: once new additions are stopped 
with the feature, bots should eventually clean it up.
  
  Given that Wikipedia hasn't really figured out how to update language codes 
they are using, we need to address this for labels at Wikidata anyways.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T281854: Get baseline measurements/expectations for splitting scholarly articles from Wikidata

2021-08-08 Thread Esc3300
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  We now have author names a detailed strings, so queries to P50 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P50> wont necessarily need to be considered.
  
  The overall situation is comparable to Commons, where "depicts" statements 
link to Wikidata items.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T256649: incorrect English names for languages (they display the native names only)

2021-08-08 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment.


  The ticket is about English names of languages and autonyms (as per its 
title).
  
  After the ticket lingered for considerable time, I reviewed it at 
T256649#7160228 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256649#7160228> and we did 
some fixes based on this review.
  
  [fiu-vro]= "võro" (in English) instead of [fiu-vro]= "Võro" seems to have 
come up after the ticket was created (see 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rMWdbb1a9ef64604cedfd85b7c04a6b4699cad5c3c2). 
If you think the legacy code "fiu-vro" needs should have a different name, you 
might want to create a ticket for it.
  
  Other things might better be handled separately as well.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286257: Insights from the Wikidata Languages Landscape project

2021-08-07 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment.


  raw data for this is regularly updated onwiki by the community

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-08-07 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment.


  @Manuel does this need more input or can this move ahead?
  
  @Addshore re T284808#7226880 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284808#7226880> which ones?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-08-07 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T256649: incorrect English names for languages (they display the native names only)

2021-08-07 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 added a comment.


  It worked on Wikidata. Is ok now or is some other feature needed?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263946: Add support for some African Languages on Wikidata

2021-08-07 Thread Esc3300
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  all requests are done. Please create new requests for additional languages.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288335: Include Aghem(agq) Language support on Wikidata

2021-08-07 Thread Esc3300
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  What's also missing are specific usage samples (labels or monlingual string 
values that could be added with the code). ( T263946 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263946> isn't really helping, as it was 
done without following the outlined approach )

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-07-29 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T256649: incorrect English names for languages (they display the native names only)

2021-07-29 Thread Esc3300
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  It works for the four above. Shall we close this as done?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-07-29 Thread Esc3300
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  I don't think we should change behavior on diffs and reverts for this feature 
only and potentially create incomprehensible reverts hiding content.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T124191: [Task] Mention that a page is ArticlePlaceholder generated

2021-07-25 Thread Esc3300
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  (5.5 years later)
  
  Maybe as a start, one could just include a blank message that people can 
configure in their wiki ..

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157809: correct language name "nederlandsk" for language code "nl" in Danish, add to LocalNamesDa

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157809: correct language name "nederlandsk" for language code "nl" in Danish, add to LocalNamesDa

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  Me neither, but the request is consistent with Wikidata and dawiki article 
(since 2003?), accordingly I support it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  The feature request don't propose to change existing UI functionality.
  
  - The mentioned ?uselang=de-formal 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q64427341?uselang=de-formal> generally doesn't 
provide anything useful and that wont change.
  - Fall-back for ?uselang=zh-classical 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37041?uselang=zh-classical> seem to be in place.
  
  It is something that could be improved, also for locals that aren't interface 
languages, e.g. uselang=fr-be 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q815549?uselang=fr-be>, but this isn't directly 
linked to the feature request above.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  seems to be an oversight .. @Mbch331

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287243: English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous (LocalNamesEn)

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 renamed this task from "Language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is 
ambiguous" to "English language name "Pidgin" for code "wes" is ambiguous 
(LocalNamesEn)".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157809: correct language name "nederlandsk" for language code "nl" in Danish, add to LocalNamesDa

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  @Raymond  would you have a look?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T245927: Wrong Russian translation for ISO 639 language code "mul" (add mul - "несколько языков" to LocalNamesRu)

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  the rename doesn't seem to be problematic for WD either

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T155419: Add monolingual language code "omq-x-mixtec" ("Mixtec")

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  If there is nothing to add, let's proceed

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T268689: Lexeme language code allows both upper and lowercase qids in -x-qid syntax

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T268689: Lexeme language code allows both upper and lowercase qids in -x-qid syntax

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T268689: Lexeme language code allows both upper and lowercase qids in -x-qid syntax

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  Personally, I'd use lowercase, as almost all language codes in Wikidata are 
lowercased and  lang(?lemma) also gives lowercase, not uppercase. See 
https://w.wiki/3fnb

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284808: Add a configuration variable that allows disabling language codes for labels, descriptions, and aliases

2021-07-23 Thread Esc3300
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  I'm not really convinced by @Nikki 's addition of today:
  
  [ ] When a disallowed code is used as the UI language, item labels, the page 
title and termbox all use the correct language instead (e.g. UI language 
`de-formal` should behave the same as `de`)
  
  If I understand this correctly, it should do some conversion automatically. 
Personally, I think this should be avoided otherwise people keep using invalid 
language codes. The information can still be displayed.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T281854: Get baseline measurements/expectations for splitting scholarly articles from Wikidata

2021-07-22 Thread Esc3300
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  There is a recent request to make items for scholarly articles more 
stand-alone, i.e.
  
  - Wikidata:Property proposal/Author last names 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Author_last_names>
  - Wikidata:Property proposal/Author first names 
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Author_first_names>
  
  would ensure that items could be used without resolving author items. This 
would simplify storing them in a separate Wikibase.
  
  I still have to go through T282139 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282139> in detail, but it seems it has 
mostly become an analysis over (the somewhat static corpus of) scholarly 
articles in Wikidata rather than Wikidata, given the numbers involved.

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