[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-14 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
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In T197616#4876226, @MusikAnimal wrote:
Don’t think anyone has filed a task requesting the views on labs to be created. It doesn’t happen automatically, so hence it not working

I'm aware :) I saw T213295 so wasn't sure if we intentionally were skipping this step (I say "step" because it seems this is seldom forgotten).

I don’t know if it is needed/wanted

It would be of narrow interest, for sure. No one asked me about it, I just saw the errors in my logs. For now I'm skipping over projects that can't be found in meta_p.wiki. Nothing urgent.


Yeah, as the wiki is for testing only and going to be closed soon anyway, I had vaguely decided that it wasn't valuable. However, if there's a real need I'd be happy to make the Cloud/DBA tasks and pester people. :-)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMFCc: Krenair, MusikAnimal, jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-14 Thread jcrespo
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First of all, I am only commenting because I have more information, but access handling is owned by the cloud team.

It probably should be treated as automatically required by procedure for all non-private wikis

This is on purpose done not-automatically so a human has to provide permissions to access to new wikis manually. In other words, the permissions are a white list to prevent, generically, exposing information that is not shared. There are specific examples where this created problems in the past, but to give one of many examples- sometimes databases or wikis are created by mistake- an automatic process would not have that into account. Of course, there are other mechanisms to prevent private data leaking, but this is one of the many layers to do it. I know it creates annoyances, but please realize that a service can "fail" many times, and as long as eventually it works, it would be ok- private data only has to fail once to be forever leaked.

Having said that, we can do better, and you can help with that- for example, setting some monitoring on tools or with reports like this. I am not sure of the status of the documentation, but last time I checked, there is a part of "notifying us DBA and cloud for wiki sanitization", of which the lack of it I complained at T197616#4859391 .

Whatever decision you take, if it should be added, file a ticket to #data-services / #cloud-services-team requesting the exposure of the new wiki.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, jcrespoCc: Krenair, MusikAnimal, jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-13 Thread Krenair
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In T197616#4876222, @Reedy wrote:

In T197616#4876205, @MusikAnimal wrote:
Is this intentionally missing from the replicas?

MariaDB [testwiki_p]> USE testcommonswiki_p;
ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 's52657'@'%' to database 'testcommonswiki_p'
MariaDB [testwiki_p]> SELECT * FROM meta_p.wiki WHERE url LIKE "%test-commons%";
Empty set (0.04 sec)

This breaks some tools that go off of the CentralAuth API and then attempt to query the replicas. But, maybe such tools should instead use meta_p.wiki :)


Don’t think anyone has filed a task requesting the views on labs to be created. It doesn’t happen automatically, so hence it not working

I don’t know if it is needed/wanted


It probably should be treated as automatically required by procedure for all non-private wikisTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, KrenairCc: Krenair, MusikAnimal, jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-13 Thread Reedy
Reedy added a comment.

In T197616#4876205, @MusikAnimal wrote:
Is this intentionally missing from the replicas?

MariaDB [testwiki_p]> USE testcommonswiki_p;
ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 's52657'@'%' to database 'testcommonswiki_p'
MariaDB [testwiki_p]> SELECT * FROM meta_p.wiki WHERE url LIKE "%test-commons%";
Empty set (0.04 sec)

This breaks some tools that go off of the CentralAuth API and then attempt to query the replicas. But, maybe such tools should instead use meta_p.wiki :)


Don’t think anyone has filed a task requesting the views on labs to be created. It doesn’t happen automatically, so hence it not working

I don’t know if it is needed/wantedTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, ReedyCc: MusikAnimal, jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-13 Thread MusikAnimal
MusikAnimal added a comment.
Is this intentionally missing from the replicas?

MariaDB [testwiki_p]> USE testcommonswiki_p;
ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 's52657'@'%' to database 'testcommonswiki_p'
MariaDB [testwiki_p]> SELECT * FROM meta_p.wiki WHERE url LIKE "%test-commons%";
Empty set (0.04 sec)

This breaks some tools that go off of the CentralAuth API and then attempt to query the replicas. But, maybe such tools should instead use meta_p.wiki :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, MusikAnimalCc: MusikAnimal, jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-08 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-08T17:37:00Z]  Finished deploy [restbase/deploy@503b29c]: Add test-commons and nap.wikisource - T210752 T197616 (duration: 96m 50s)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, StashbotCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-08 Thread jcrespo
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By the way, are people aware that a shard called "test-s4" has 2 dedicated large hosts and ready to be used for production? I think it was used by Anomie and DanielK to test MCR, could it be shared for whatever testcommonswiki is being used?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, jcrespoCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-08 Thread Marostegui
Marostegui added a comment.
The database is still present at the s4 servers, and I would like to clean it up.
It cannot be done directly on the master, as it would break the multisource slaves (dbstore1002 and labs hosts).
I can delete it on a host by host, that is fine, but I would like @Jdforrester-WMF to confirm it is already on s3 and it can be safely deleted from s4 servers.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMF, MarosteguiCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-08 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482274 merged by Mobrovac:
[mediawiki/services/restbase/deploy@master] Config: Add test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482139 abandoned by Jforrester:
Set $wgMultiContentRevisionSchemaMigrationStage = SCHEMA_COMPAT_WRITE_BOTH | SCHEMA_COMPAT_READ_OLD

Reason:
Not needed.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread Marostegui
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Waiting for one hour only is not realistic, specially if asked at 19:00 UTC.
The 4th I was on holidays (I am still on holidays) but I replied to it as I didn't want to block this so long. So we replied in less than 24h, but I didn't notice it was already done.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MarosteguiCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
Jdforrester-WMF added a comment.

In T197616#4859717, @Marostegui wrote:
I wonder why was this created in s4 if we were asked if we preferred s3 and I replied a day after that question that s3 would be the best place from our point of view?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread jcrespo
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I've been told there was some breakage based on assuming s4 ==> commons, or commons ==> s4. I am not too worried, as I said, about a temporary project, but the assumption of that on code or configuration is worrying, as it would not be unthinkable we move commonswiki in the future to separate group.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: jcrespoCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread Marostegui
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I wonder why was this created in s4 if we were asked if we preferred s3 and I replied a day after that question that s3 would be the best place from our point of view?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MarosteguiCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
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In T197616#4859391, @jcrespo wrote:
Based on comments that removing the wiki is going to happen, I won't ask to move it, but please not removing wikis is also not a trivial task due to out of band changes (ES, wikidata, etc.). I would recommend strongly to at the very least move it to s3 (or a potential future s0) before archival when that happens.


I'm happy to do the work to move it to s3 right now. We could just drop all the tables in s4 and create as-new in s3, as the wiki doesn't have any content yet.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-07 Thread jcrespo
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I agree with Manuel T197616, I would have preferred creating it on s3 for isolation reasons- enwiki, commons and wikidata require more resources than the typical high-throughput project and they were on purpose set on dedicated hardware. I understand that you want a setup as similar as possible as the actual commonswiki, but from our point of view, s0 deployments are the ones more likely to create outages, and the above wikis, plus metawiki and centralauth are on purpose separate from group0 ones to minimize impact. Also the above 3 wikis have a large amount of hardware behind them, which makes testcommonswiki overprovisioned in some aspects.

Based on comments that removing the wiki is going to happen, I won't ask to move it, but please not removing wikis is also not a trivial task due to out of band changes (ES, wikidata, etc.). I would recommend strongly to at the very least move it to s3 (or a potential future s0) before archival when that happens. [*s0 is the idea (not yet firm) proposal of an extra group for closed and other low bandwidth wikis to avoid taking resources of active ones]

The main issue I want to bring up here was I think a lack of communication, I (and other DBAs) just learned about this when we got an alert of "data on labsdbs that shouldn't be there" (the new wiki).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: jcrespoCc: jcrespo, MZMcBride, Marostegui, Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482257 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/services/parsoid@master] Add test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-04 Thread Marostegui
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In T197616#4853038, @Reedy wrote:

In T197616#4853024, @greg wrote:
Status?


https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/ is live (DNS and apache are up)

James looks to have made the mw-config patch. Just addWiki.php to run at this point

He was trying to nerd snipe me into creating the wiki, which is when I made the dns and the apache patches

I don't mind running addWiki.php (though, looks like James has a ? over whether we put it on s4 like commons, or just s3 - question for #dba I guess) to finish it off

Obviously then some followup config will be needed to make it into a media repo properly, and make other wikis into using test-commons as their media repo


I guess s3 should be the place as there we already have there:

testwiki
test2wiki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482274 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mobrovac; owner: Mobrovac):
[mediawiki/services/restbase/deploy@master] Config: Add test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482257 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[mediawiki/services/parsoid@master] Add test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482139 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Set $wgMultiContentRevisionSchemaMigrationStage = SCHEMA_COMPAT_WRITE_BOTH | SCHEMA_COMPAT_READ_OLD

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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-03T20:23:31Z]  Synchronized wmf-config/db-eqiad.php: T197616 (duration: 00m 44s)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Marostegui, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

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Change 482135 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add testcommonswiki to db-*.php

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482135 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add testcommonswiki to db-*.php

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482134 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Remove excess wiki suffix

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

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Change 482134 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Remove excess wiki suffix

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-03T20:13:37Z]  Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: T197616 (duration: 00m 44s)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Marostegui, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-03T20:12:25Z]  Synchronized multiversion/MWMultiVersion.php: T197616 (duration: 00m 44s)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Marostegui, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-03T20:11:08Z]  rebuilt and synchronized wikiversions files: T197616TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Banyek, AndyTan, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Marostegui, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Minhnv-2809, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482019 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Initial configuration for test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread Reedy
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In T197616#4853024, @greg wrote:
Status?


https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/ is live (DNS and apache are up)

James looks to have made the mw-config patch. Just addWiki.php to run at this point

He was trying to nerd snipe me into creating the wiki, which is when I made the dns and the apache patches

I don't mind running addWiki.php (though, looks like James has a ? over whether we put it on s4 like commons, or just s3 - question for #dba I guess) to finish it off

Obviously then some followup config will be needed to make it into a media repo properly, and make other wikis into using test-commons as their media repoTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: ReedyCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-03T15:43:19Z]  Enabled puppet on mw servers after merging 481796 - T197616TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 481796 merged by Effie Mouzeli:
[operations/puppet@production] Add test-commons.wikimedia.org to prod_sites.pp

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-01-03T15:31:01Z]  Disabling puppet on mw servers to test 481796 - T197616TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Stashbot, jijiki, gerritbot, Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, JKSTNK, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Darkminds3113, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Silverfish, Devwaker, Niklitov, _jensen, Urbanecm, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 481795 merged by Effie Mouzeli:
[operations/dns@master] Add test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-03 Thread gerritbot
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Change 482019 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; owner: Jforrester):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Initial configuration for test-commons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-01 Thread gerritbot
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Change 481796 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[operations/puppet@production] Add testcommons.wikimedia.org to prod_sites.pp

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2019-01-01 Thread gerritbot
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Change 481795 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; owner: Reedy):
[operations/dns@master] Add testcommons.wikimedia.org

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-08-29 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
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In T197616#4543890, @greg wrote:
After speaking with @MarkTraceur we agreed to setup Beta Cluster in such a way to mirror what you'll be doing in production. Happy to help think that through.


Is there a task for this? I'd be interested to read what the plan is to have a Beta Cluster wiki running fundamentally different code months in advance of production.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jdforrester-WMFCc: Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-08-23 Thread Abit
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@MarkTraceur , any movement on this after you talked to Greg?  Anything I can do to help?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: AbitCc: Smalyshev, MarkTraceur, Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, stebsco, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-30 Thread Krinkle
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In T197616#4461712, @daniel wrote:
Do you believe that the test wikis on the live cluster should be removed [..]


Yes and no.

Yes, I'd prefer we not see test-wikis as ways to catch regressions during normal deployments, because almost none of our procedures (apart from train/group0) include test wikis. And for train/group0 we have other wikis that serve this purpose better, e.g. www.mediawiki.org. I don't see this as a problem because test wikis are in production, that's too late for testing. At this point, we might as well perform QA against an actual production wiki that doesn't have different or dated configuration.

No, I'd prefer we keep at least test.wikipedia and test2.wikipedia, for testing with multiversion. This is why, test2.wikipedia is on group2 (or group1?) instead of group0. Although I do think that in the long-term we should phase this out. Especially now that we have a Beta Cluster and X-Wikimedia-Debug. Beta can be used to enable upcoming features before their deployment in prod, and XWD can be used to verify changes in prod during a deployment.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: KrinkleCc: Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-30 Thread greg
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In T197616#4462171, @daniel wrote:

In T197616#4462111, @greg wrote:
So, summary: given those limitations of the production testwiki setup (mostly lack of real user traffic) what is the plan for testing against this wiki and could it also (or instead of) be done in Beta Cluster?


There is no concrete plan for testing against this wiki. Ideally, we'd have a bunch of browser tests running against all the wikis on the beta cluster. Ideally, we'd have browser tests covering the SDC functionality there. That's up to #multimedia though.


Agreed, let us know if you/whoever needs a hand at getting started on those. I *think* there's some knowledge within the #multimedia team on browser testing already.

My intention behind requesting this to be created was to have some kind of early warning in case some deploy later could break the special functionality on commons. But the decision of whether this kind of safeguard is needed is really up to the #release-engineering-team. If you say beta is enough, that's fine with me. For MCR, this is not needed. Perhaps consult with @Abit and @Ramsey-WMF before making a call on this.

Mostly it's: If there's testing being done then it should be done in Beta initially and we'll see if production testing is needed on top of that. Most times it isn't if the Beta wiki is set up the same (we all remember situations where it wasn't quite the same :) ).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gregCc: Ramsey-WMF, Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-30 Thread greg
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In T197616#4461721, @daniel wrote:
The reason to also do this on group0 is parity with the staging we do for the wikipedia setup. In other words, if it's unnecessary to have a staging version of commons on the live cluster, it should also be unnecessary to have a staging version of wikipedia on the live cluster. Is it?


Calling it parity is a bit of a stretch given that not every special wiki has a test version in group0 (for better or worse) ;)

Also, the issue is still that these wikis in group0 are notoriously bad at finding anything other than egregious configuration mistakes given their complete lack of real user traffic hitting the weird edge cases that usually catch issues. We have mw.org in group0 to get at least one wiki with real traffic in there, but it's a limited scope wiki too.

So, summary: given those limitations of the production testwiki setup (mostly lack of real user traffic) what is the plan for testing against this wiki and could it also (or instead of) be done in Beta Cluster?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gregCc: Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-30 Thread daniel
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In T197616#4456669, @Fjalapeno wrote:
From what is being said, it sounds like the main question that needs to be answered is:

"Why not do this in beta instead of as part of group 0?"


We should definitely also do it on beta. Which means setting up Wikibase change dispatching on the beta version of wikidata and commons.

The reason to also do this on group0 is parity with the staging we do for the wikipedia setup. In other words, if it's unnecessary to have a staging version of commons on the live cluster, it should also be unnecessary to have a staging version of wikipedia on the live cluster. Is it?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-30 Thread daniel
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@Krinkle In my mind, the purpose of testwiki and friends is to have an early warning for a train deploy breaking something on the production cluster. For that to work, we need one test wiki per significantly different wiki setup. Commons will in the future be the only wiki using the "Wikibase Repo Federation" mechanism, so it seems prudent to have a test wiki for that setup on the production cluster.

If it's considered sufficient to have a beta version of commons, this raises the question why it's not sufficient to have a beta version of Wikipedia. Do you believe that the test wikis on the live cluster should be removed, and we should solely rely on the beta cluster for catching problems?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-27 Thread Krinkle
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In T197616#4429492, @Krinkle wrote:

In T197616#4297600, @daniel wrote:
The beta setup is probably not going to cover all the angles for e.g. wikibase change propagation.



@Krinkle Can you clarify what angles you think aren't going to covered and [..]

This was a statement from @daniel, not me. I don’t have a stake in terms of what needs to be covered.

Reading the rest of Daniel’s comment, I believe his main concern is that “changeprop” is not installed on Beta Cluster currently. I was saying, we should consider installing it if that’s the case, and therefore use the existing Commons in Beta, instead of creating a test-commons in production.

Mainly because doing it in prod would demand on-going maintenance from lots of teams, and create technical debt as result of having two commons’ in the same realm. The Beta Commons on the other hand naturally matches the production configuration without any manual labour.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: KrinkleCc: Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-27 Thread greg
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In T197616#4456742, @CCicalese_WMF wrote:

In T197616#4456657, @Fjalapeno wrote:

In T197616#4409174, @greg wrote:
(if it blocks then it should be a sub-task of the SDC deployment, not the other way around, right? ;) )


@CCicalese_WMF can you make sure the task tree is correct here?


Yes, it is.


Sorry, forgot to mention before you had to check: James F already fixed it :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gregCc: Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-27 Thread CCicalese_WMF
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In T197616#4456657, @Fjalapeno wrote:

In T197616#4409174, @greg wrote:
(if it blocks then it should be a sub-task of the SDC deployment, not the other way around, right? ;) )


@CCicalese_WMF can you make sure the task tree is correct here?


Yes, it is.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: CCicalese_WMFCc: Tgr, Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-27 Thread greg
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In T197616#4456665, @Anomie wrote:

In T197616#4456657, @Fjalapeno wrote:

In T197616#4445656, @greg wrote:
Additional question: how would this test commons receive sufficient traffic to expose any potential issues?


@Anomie I believe you have some thoughts here… can you provide some info for @greg?


I don't have any thoughts on that matter, beyond asking "How do we get testwiki to have enough traffic to expose issues there?".


That's pretty much the issue: we don't :) That's why group0 only really catches extreme situations (unmet dependencies not caught before). It's usually the least impactful/bug finding group.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gregCc: Anomie, Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-27 Thread Anomie
Anomie added a comment.

In T197616#4456657, @Fjalapeno wrote:

In T197616#4445656, @greg wrote:
Additional question: how would this test commons receive sufficient traffic to expose any potential issues?


@Anomie I believe you have some thoughts here… can you provide some info for @greg?


I don't have any thoughts on that matter, beyond asking "How do we get testwiki to have enough traffic to expose issues there?".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-23 Thread greg
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T197616: Create a production test wiki in group0 to parallel Wikimedia Commons

2018-07-16 Thread Krinkle
Krinkle added a comment.

In T197616#4297600, @daniel wrote:
The beta setup is probably not going to cover all the angles for e.g. wikibase change propagation.


Can we fix that in Beta Cluster?

I do not think it is unreasonable to require new projects to work properly in Beta Cluster from day -1. Missing dependencies should be provisioned first.

I don't know the internals of Wikibase changeprop, but if it is a blocker to gaining confidence in SDC testing, it is probably also significant for general testing in Beta Cluster. Continued absence of it, would decrease value of overall QA efforts, and the efforts from other teams currently operating their services in Beta Cluster.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: KrinkleCc: Krinkle, Liuxinyu970226, Jdforrester-WMF, Fjalapeno, Abit, Aklapper, greg, Reedy, CCicalese_WMF, daniel, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, JunaidHafeez, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, BJ6123C7BTD, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, Liudvikas, JEumerus, StevenJ81, Susannaanas, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Dcljr, Ebe123, Koavf, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, zeljkofilipin, Rschen7754, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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