[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T1095: Investigate Titan for WDQ
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T78203: Look into WDQ tool API language
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T69533: security review of WikibaseQuery
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T69536: security review of WikibaseQueryEngine
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T71541: security review for Capiunto
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T85159: Deploy a Wikidata complex query service into production
RobLa-WMF created this task. RobLa-WMF added a subscriber: RobLa-WMF. RobLa-WMF added projects: wikidata-query-service, Epic, MediaWiki-Core-Team. RobLa-WMF changed Security from none to none. TASK DESCRIPTION Create a service which supports complex queries on Wikidata: - **external** requests return within a few seconds, use reasonable resources - **internal** requests are allowed to use more resources time See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85159 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Aklapper, RobLa-WMF, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GWicke, Manybubbles, daniel ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T85159: Deploy a Wikidata complex query service into production
RobLa-WMF added blocking tasks: T76373: Evaluate Titan as graph storage/query engine for Wikidata Query service, T76372: Evaluate TinkerPop GraphSail frontend, T1028: Experiment with Wikidata Query Engine, T75813: Investigate OrientDB for WDQ. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85159 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Aklapper, RobLa-WMF, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GWicke, Manybubbles, daniel ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T86187: Prepare deployment of usage tracking to Wikidata
RobLa-WMF added subscribers: RobLa-WMF, Manybubbles. RobLa-WMF added a comment. @manybubbles explained this to Bryan and I, and I'm going to attempt to explain this as simply as I can: This is step 1 of 3(?) toward arbitrary list transclusion (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49930) on Wikipedia et all. This aspect of it is basically the related changes bit that allows for proper purging (but doesn't actually do it). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86187 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: aude, RobLa-WMF Cc: Manybubbles, RobLa-WMF, Tnegrin, Reedy, Liuxinyu970226, RP88, greg, aude, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T101950: Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T987: Phase 0: Centralize interwiki language links for Wiktionary
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T114443: EventBus MVP
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Calendar] [Updated] E69: GSoC and Outreachy wrap-up showcase on IRC
RobLa-WMF is attending this event.
EVENT DESCRIPTION
All Google Summer of Code 2015 and Outreachy Round 10 projects will be
showcased by their developers via IRC. To have an idea of how this showcase
works, check [[
http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20140819.txt | last
year's showcase logs ]].
[[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=GSoC+and+Outreachy+IRC+Showcase=20150924T1530=1440=1
| Thursday, September 24, 1530 UTC ]] at `#wikimedia-office` ([[
https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office | connect ]]).
== Projects showcased ==
* {T92955}
* {T77925}
* {T67119}
* {T76199}
* {T74065}
* {T90238}
* {T89287}
* {T89107}
* {T92929}
EVENT DETAIL
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E69
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To: Qgil, RobLa-WMF, DannyH, Ankita-ks, Nikerabbit, Mvolz, Mooeypoo,
Yaron_Koren, eranroz, Amire80, yuvipanda, Jdlrobson, Nicolas_Raoul,
Mattflaschen, 01tonythomas, Halfak, jayvdb, ferdbold, Sitic, Sumit, Tinaj1234,
Phoenix303, happy5214, VcamX, Ankit_ks, polybuildr, NiharikaKohli
Cc: happy5214, Sitic, VcamX, NiharikaKohli, ferdbold, Ankita-ks, Imaculate,
polybuildr, Wikidata-bugs, Tinaj1234, Mvolz, -jem-, Nemo_bis, Lydia_Pintscher,
01tonythomas, Se4598, Jdforrester-WMF, Jay8g, Mattflaschen, Quiddity, Qgil
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T116247: Define edit related events for change propagation
RobLa-WMF added a subscriber: RobLa-WMF. RobLa-WMF added a comment. @ottomata: I don't know all of the details, but I think the ID idea is a good one. One //possible hitch//: according to the W3C, URIs are supposed to be opaque <http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity>. If you're using it as an identifier, then it's a layer violation to //also// require the server to provide data to the client via the URI. I haven't studied your proposal closely enough to know if there's really a problem here, and if there is, if it's worth avoiding. There's no sense in overcomplicating things to satisfy some W3C orthodoxy here, but I know that there are //some// cases where URI parsing causes tighter coupling than necessary, so I figured I'd comment. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116247 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: mobrovac, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, Nuria, gerritbot, intracer, EBernhardson, Smalyshev, yuvipanda, Hardikj, daniel, aaron, GWicke, mobrovac, MZMcBride, bd808, JanZerebecki, Halfak, Krenair, brion, chasemp, Eevans, mmodell, Ottomata, Matanya, Aklapper, JAllemandou, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331, jeremyb ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T89733: Allow ContentHandler to expose structured data to the search engine.
RobLa-WMF added a subscriber: RobLa-WMF. RobLa-WMF added a comment. @smalyshev listed this as a nominee for a "must have" in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119593, and it's currently categorized in T119029: WikiDev 16 working area: Content access and APIs <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119029>, but doesn't seem to be on track as a must-have conversation. @daniel + others that are interested in this: can you make the case for this one in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119029? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, Tgr, Yurik, dcausse, Qgil, JanZerebecki, Smalyshev, matthiasmullie, aude, Ricordisamoa, Krenair, MZMcBride, bd808, brion, Manybubbles, Aklapper, daniel, Wikidata-bugs, GWicke, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T114474: More flexible and modernized Recent Changes code
RobLa-WMF assigned this task to aude. RobLa-WMF added a subscriber: RobLa-WMF. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114474 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: aude, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, Izno, GWicke, Jdforrester-WMF, Krenair, Qgil, hoo, Addshore, daniel, aude, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)
RobLa-WMF added a comment. I think there's a risk of second system syndrome <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month#The_second-system_effect> here in the current proposal. I would start with the question "what's the most important problem to solve with the current system?" My instinct is that we can come up with a very simple system to solve @halfak's problem, possibly a (hopefully temporary) "next gen" version that doesn't replace the old system at first. We keep iteratively solving problems with the new system, and then when the pain of maintaining two systems becomes too much, implement the old system //on top// of the new system. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114019 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ArielGlenn, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, GWicke, TTO, zhuyifei1999, StudiesWorld, gnosygnu, LA2, Ladsgroup, intracer, Lokal_Profil, Halfak, Legoktm, Qgil, JanZerebecki, brion, daniel, Hydriz, MZMcBride, hoo, ezachte, wpmirrordev, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, ArielGlenn, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)
RobLa-WMF added subscribers: GWicke, RobLa-WMF. RobLa-WMF added a comment. This doesn't seem clear to me, and I think I'm coming to agree with @gwicke's comment https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119029#1866851 that this is probably not a good for the summit in its current form. That said, it would be very disappointing to kick the can down the road for some more time. @arielglenn, you wrote: "If you don't come, you'll wind up with the same old Dumps 1.0!" Really? Do you have a concise answer for "if I were in charge, I would solve X with Y?", for the following values of X? - Format - Incrementals - Content - Scalability - Reliability - Storage - Downloading - Maintainability You also say "FOR CURRENT DISCUSSION" and then point to a giant wall of prose. That doesn't look like a discussion to me. It looks like it might be time to revisit @halfak's earlier comment, because that looks like the seeds of a discussion that were killed early. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114019 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ArielGlenn, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, GWicke, TTO, zhuyifei1999, StudiesWorld, gnosygnu, LA2, Ladsgroup, intracer, Lokal_Profil, Halfak, Legoktm, Qgil, JanZerebecki, brion, daniel, Hydriz, MZMcBride, hoo, ezachte, wpmirrordev, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, ArielGlenn, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112987: Separating infoboxes and navboxes from article content
RobLa-WMF added a comment. @cscott, thanks for pinging me, and yes, your proposal to introduce and then open it up sounds perfect, thanks! Think "lightning talk" for your intro. 5 minutes is ideal, 10 minutes for something more complicated, everyone has a right to be annoyed if you take 15 minutes, and we cut off your microphone at 20 minutes. :-) That make sense? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112987 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: cscott, RobLa-WMF Cc: Liuxinyu970226, tarlocesilion, Candalua, Izno, Susannaanas, StudiesWorld, Jdforrester-WMF, Isarra, Qgil, MrStradivarius, hoo, daniel, JanZerebecki, Tgr, Jay8g, ssastry, RobLa, violetto, Amire80, Deskana, Wwes, Lydia_Pintscher, RobLa-WMF, brion, cscott, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)
RobLa-WMF added a comment. I'm talking in the SF office with @gwicke about this now. He's pointed out T93396: Decide on format options for HTML and possibly other dumps <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93396> to me, which seems to be stalled out. Is getting that unstalled relevant to this conversation? (note: I accidentally put this comment on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119029, but I suppose the comment makes sense there too) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114019 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ArielGlenn, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, GWicke, TTO, zhuyifei1999, StudiesWorld, gnosygnu, LA2, Ladsgroup, intracer, Lokal_Profil, Halfak, Legoktm, Qgil, JanZerebecki, brion, daniel, Hydriz, MZMcBride, hoo, ezachte, wpmirrordev, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, ArielGlenn, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T112987: Separating infoboxes and navboxes from article content
RobLa-WMF assigned this task to cscott. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112987 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: cscott, RobLa-WMF Cc: Liuxinyu970226, tarlocesilion, Candalua, Izno, Susannaanas, StudiesWorld, Jdforrester-WMF, Isarra, Qgil, MrStradivarius, hoo, daniel, JanZerebecki, Tgr, Jay8g, ssastry, RobLa, violetto, Amire80, Deskana, Wwes, Lydia_Pintscher, RobLa-WMF, brion, cscott, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF moved this task to Content format on the Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016 workboard. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1448/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: intracer, Tgr, Qgil, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T114251: [RFC] Magic Infobox implementation
RobLa-WMF moved this task to Content format on the Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016 workboard. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114251 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1448/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: He7d3r, Izno, StudiesWorld, brion, Krenair, Addshore, Smalyshev, Qgil, Lucie, MrStradivarius, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, GWicke, Jdforrester-WMF, cscott, daniel, hoo, Wikidata-bugs, Dinoguy1000, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T114474: More flexible and modernized Recent Changes code
RobLa-WMF moved this task to On track: Content access and APIs on the Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016 workboard. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114474 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1448/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Izno, GWicke, Jdforrester-WMF, Krenair, Qgil, hoo, Addshore, daniel, aude, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T105638: RFC: Streamlining Composer usage
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T134426: Review shared data namespace (tabular data) implementation
RobLa-WMF added a comment. This is a really cool idea, Yuri! Done correctly, this has the potential for establishing a de facto standard for how one represents tabular data in JSON. I'm assuming we're not the first people in the world that have thought of representing tabular data as JSON. Just based on my very quick set of searches, here's what I found: - http://dataprotocols.org/json-table-schema/ - https://www.w3.org/TR/csv2json/ - http://dataprotocols.readthedocs.io/en/latest/json-table-schema.html That's not to say anything qualitative about those alternatives relative to the format you propose; just my first impression of "stuff I should read" based on a quick skim of this. Could you tell me more about your research? The good news (for this) is that ".tab" doesn't have a mediatype associated with it in the Apache mime.types file <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/mime.types> (which is always the first place I look when I'm creating a new file extension). The bad news is that the enwiki list of file formats <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_file_formats#Geographic_information_system> does show that ".tab" is currently associated with MapInfo files <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MapInfo_TAB_format>. I don't think there's any widely-recognized, open, official registry for file extensions (is there?), and your proposal seems to have a more intuitive claim to ".tab". It would be neat to enlist the people who are writing specs in this area to help define the spec for our implementation. Is that something you can do, Yuri? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134426 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Yurik, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, Danny_B, DannyH, StudiesWorld, Steinsplitter, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, ekkis, Matanya, MarkTraceur, JEumerus, Thryduulf, Milimetric, MZMcBride, Bawolff, -jem-, gerritbot, Pokefan95, TerraCodes, intracer, ThurnerRupert, brion, Jdforrester-WMF, Eloy, TheDJ, Yurik, Zppix, Riley_Huntley, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, JAllemandou, Wikidata-bugs, aude, El_Grafo, Ricordisamoa, Shizhao, fbstj, Fabrice_Florin, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair, jeremyb ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T114454: [RFC] Visual Templates: Authoring templates with Visual Editor
RobLa-WMF triaged this task as "Low" priority. RobLa-WMF added a comment. Belated priority update discussed in E187: RFC Meeting: triage meeting (2016-05-25, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E187> (see log at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P3179). In particular: > 21:34:29 priority of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114454 , "low", plus a comment "please file a bigger picture RFC so that we can block this RFC with that RFC? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114454 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: jeblad, Physikerwelt, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, Krenair, Jdforrester-WMF, daniel, Anomie, cscott, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GWicke, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, MrStradivarius, fbstj, AuFCL, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, bd808, Elitre, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T120452: Allow tabular datasets on Commons (or some similar central repository) (CSV, TSV, JSON, XML)
RobLa-WMF added a comment.@Yurik , would you be available to discuss this at the #ArchCom-RFC meeting on IRC this week? E213 has the details (the date and time: 2016-06-15, Wednesday 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST)).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120452EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Yurik, RobLa-WMFCc: RobLa-WMF, TheDJ, Eloy, Jdforrester-WMF, brion, ThurnerRupert, intracer, TerraCodes, Pokefan95, gerritbot, -jem-, Bawolff, MZMcBride, Milimetric, Thryduulf, JEumerus, MarkTraceur, Yurik, Matanya, ekkis, matmarex, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Steinsplitter, StudiesWorld, DannyH, Riley_Huntley, D3r1ck01, Izno, JAllemandou, Wikidata-bugs, aude, El_Grafo, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, Shizhao, Fabrice_Florin, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair, jeremyb ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF added a comment.I'm going to make a note here mainly for myself as shepherd. In E202, I noted I was going to take this off of our weekly action items. There's probably some work that needs to happen to incorporate Daniel's thinking expressed in T102476#2309963 into the document at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Requirements_for_change_propagation . @daniel and @GWicke seemed to believe that this RfC is on track, and would be a good example of an RFC where we might need the "on track" state we discussed (see T137860)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: Mholloway, Liuxinyu970226, Scott_WUaS, Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap
RobLa-WMF added a comment. @Daniel, my understanding from our previous conversations (and discussions about a new column on the https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom-rfc/ board) is that this is "on track". As of right now, you're not waiting on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom/ for approval before continuing development (or understanding what next steps should be) and that everyone (including https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom/) is happy that implementation is underway. Is that a fair characterization? (//I'm asking because I was recently asked about status on this RFC//) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: Liuxinyu970226, MarcoAurelio, RobLa-WMF, gerritbot, Quiddity, Bene, hoo, zhuyifei1999, jayvdb, Spage, Isarra, Smalyshev, Ltrlg, GWicke, Purodha, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Krenair, MrStradivarius, Legoktm, TTO, Anomie, ori, aaron, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T124569: RFC: Data namespace blob storage on wikidata.org
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T114251: [RFC] Magic Infobox implementation
RobLa-WMF moved this task to Needs shepherd on the ArchCom-RfC workboard. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114251 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: FreedomFighterSparrow, jmadler, Trizek-WMF, Bianjiang, Ricordisamoa, He7d3r, Izno, StudiesWorld, brion, Krenair, Addshore, Smalyshev, Qgil, Lucie, MrStradivarius, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, GWicke, Jdforrester-WMF, cscott, daniel, hoo, Wikidata-bugs, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T114454: [RFC] Visual Templates: Authoring templates with Visual Editor
RobLa-WMF moved this task to Needs shepherd on the ArchCom-RfC workboard. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114454 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Physikerwelt, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, Krenair, Jdforrester-WMF, daniel, Qgil, Anomie, cscott, Aklapper, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GWicke, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, MrStradivarius, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, bd808, Elitre, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T114443: EventBus MVP
RobLa-WMF added a blocking task: T120212: Security review of EventBus extension. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Ottomata, RobLa-WMF Cc: yuvipanda, JanZerebecki, Glaisher, Milimetric, RobLa-WMF, brion, intracer, Smalyshev, mark, MZMcBride, Krinkle, EBernhardson, bd808, Joe, dr0ptp4kt, madhuvishy, Nuria, ori, faidon, aaron, GWicke, mobrovac, Eevans, Ottomata, Matanya, Aklapper, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, JAllemandou, jkroll, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, jayvdb, daniel, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, jeremyb, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T124792: RFC: Service Locator for MediaWiki core.
RobLa-WMF added a comment. Thanks for the clarification, @daniel! Should we try spinning up a software engineering working group (per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119032 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124504) and delegate this to that group? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: gerritbot, JanZerebecki, daniel, AndyRussG, Spage, Aklapper, bd808, JeroenDeDauw, GWicke, phuedx, Tgr, MZMcBride, RobLa-WMF, Ricordisamoa, Glaisher, Izno, Addshore, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP
RobLa-WMF added a comment. @mobrovac - I'm confused, why don't you think https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120212 is a blocker for this? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Ottomata, RobLa-WMF Cc: yuvipanda, JanZerebecki, Glaisher, Milimetric, RobLa-WMF, brion, intracer, Smalyshev, mark, MZMcBride, Krinkle, EBernhardson, bd808, Joe, dr0ptp4kt, madhuvishy, Nuria, ori, faidon, aaron, GWicke, mobrovac, Eevans, Ottomata, Matanya, Aklapper, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, JAllemandou, jkroll, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, jayvdb, daniel, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, jeremyb, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP
RobLa-WMF added a comment. I realize that the blocking relationship is transitive, but given Otto's comment (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443#2072426), it would seem that it would be clearer to make the blocking relationship specific, rather than obscuring it in a hierarchy. Would you mind if I put https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120212 as a direct blocker for this task? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Ottomata, RobLa-WMF Cc: yuvipanda, JanZerebecki, Glaisher, Milimetric, RobLa-WMF, brion, intracer, Smalyshev, mark, MZMcBride, Krinkle, EBernhardson, bd808, Joe, dr0ptp4kt, madhuvishy, Nuria, ori, faidon, aaron, GWicke, mobrovac, Eevans, Ottomata, Matanya, Aklapper, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, JAllemandou, jkroll, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, jayvdb, daniel, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, jeremyb, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment.
In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595#2180530, @Yurik wrote:
> Can we solve some of the proposed usecases by simply wraping "content" into
a higher level structure, e.g. json, to store multiple streams? For example,
for a hypothetical "tabular data", we could have
>
> {
> "license": "...",
> "headers": [...],
> "rows": [ [...], [...], ... ]
> }
>
I think this is a really good point; and generally, many of us probably need
to spend some quality time reading through @daniel wrote (I confess I haven't
done that yet). We'll almost certainly need to do something like what Yuri is
suggesting to have a sane import/export format. Daniel has clearly thought
about the dump format problem, so I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is
already spelled out above.
@Daniel, I suspect the bulk of the prose for this RFC should migrate to
mediawiki.org as we more seriously consider it. Is this something you are
planning on, or do you need help/buy-in/gnome-help in order to accomplish?
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T105845: Page components / content widgets
RobLa-WMF moved this task to Tracked as ArchCom-RFC on the Architecture workboard. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105845 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/25/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: GWicke, RobLa-WMF Cc: jmadler, Bianjiang, LikeLifer, MGChecker, -jem-, Daniel_Mietchen, StudiesWorld, Kelson, Jonas, daniel, Jhernandez, Qgil, MrStradivarius, JanZerebecki, Quiddity, mobrovac, ssastry, Tgr, Ltrlg, Inez, cscott, TrevorParscal, Jdlrobson, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Jrf, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, brion, fbstj, RobLa-WMF, Arlolra, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Krenair, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T124792: RFC: Service Locator for MediaWiki core
RobLa-WMF added a comment. Full IRC log of E150: RFC Meeting: Service Locator for MediaWiki core (2016-03-23, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E150> is captured at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2815 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: Smalyshev, adrianheine, Bene, gerritbot, JanZerebecki, daniel, AndyRussG, Spage, Aklapper, bd808, JeroenDeDauw, GWicke, phuedx, Tgr, MZMcBride, RobLa-WMF, Ricordisamoa, Glaisher, Izno, Addshore, Avner, Lewizho99, D3r1ck01, OrenBochman, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T114251: [RFC] Magic Infobox implementation
RobLa-WMF changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled". RobLa-WMF added a comment. Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E146 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114251 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: hoo, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, jeblad, Micru, FreedomFighterSparrow, jmadler, Trizek-WMF, Bianjiang, Ricordisamoa, He7d3r, Izno, StudiesWorld, brion, Krenair, Addshore, Smalyshev, Qgil, Lucie, MrStradivarius, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, GWicke, Jdforrester-WMF, cscott, daniel, hoo, D3r1ck01, Wikidata-bugs, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T114454: [RFC] Visual Templates: Authoring templates with Visual Editor
RobLa-WMF changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled". RobLa-WMF added a comment. Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E146 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114454 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Physikerwelt, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, Krenair, Jdforrester-WMF, daniel, Qgil, Anomie, cscott, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GWicke, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, MrStradivarius, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, bd808, Elitre, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Blocker] T114477: [RfC] Future of the Article Placeholder Extension
RobLa-WMF changed the status of blocking task T114251: [RFC] Magic Infobox implementation from "Open" to "Stalled". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114477 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lucie, RobLa-WMF Cc: Qgil, aude, daniel, Ricordisamoa, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Lucie, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T124792: RFC: Service Locator for MediaWiki core
RobLa-WMF added a comment. From E158: RFC Meeting: Architecture open office (2016-04-06, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E158>: > 21:08:06 <@bd808> I case anyone missed it, the first patch for the dependency injection/service locator work was merged during the hackathon. :) > 21:08:34 bd808: I saw thatcool! > 21:08:40 have a link handy? > 21:09:06 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/264403/ > 21:09:35 ah, right, which also links to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792 > 21:10:11 We had a well attended discussion on the general topic as well -- https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmhack2016_DI > 21:10:35 * robla follows the link to skim the notes > 21:13:18 bd808: what is the general consensus on the RFC from what you saw at the Hackathon? is it something that's effectively a done deal and that ArchCom should just follow through on, or is there advice from ArchCom that's still desired? > 21:13:57 I think it was all down to implementation details at this point. @Daniel needs code review and +2s > 21:15:02 ok, good to know > 21:15:13 There are almost certainly going to be some things that come up as usage expands. We may need some do & don't guildelines once we know what to do or not do. > 21:16:22 the bulk of the prose for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792 should probably move to mw.org > 21:16:22 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792: RFC: Service Locator for MediaWiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792 > 21:18:21 yeah. there is a lot of stuff in docs/injection.txt that should end up on wiki TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: Smalyshev, adrianheine, Bene, gerritbot, JanZerebecki, daniel, AndyRussG, Spage, Aklapper, bd808, JeroenDeDauw, GWicke, phuedx, Tgr, MZMcBride, RobLa-WMF, Ricordisamoa, Glaisher, Izno, Addshore, MMax8338, WebIntegrity, Avner, Lewizho99, D3r1ck01, OrenBochman, Wikidata-bugs, Malyacko, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF edited the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Scott_WUaS, Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF added a comment. On https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E184, @gwicke said "I'm not opposed to moving the general portion especially to mw.org, lets just make sure we don't end up with multiple copies" My edits to the description reflect my understanding of that. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Scott_WUaS, Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T105845: Page components / content widgets
RobLa-WMF triaged this task as "Normal" priority. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105845 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: GWicke, RobLa-WMF Cc: RandomDSdevel, jmadler, Bianjiang, LikeLifer, MGChecker, -jem-, Daniel_Mietchen, StudiesWorld, Kelson, Jonas, daniel, Jhernandez, Qgil, MrStradivarius, JanZerebecki, Quiddity, mobrovac, ssastry, Tgr, Ltrlg, Inez, cscott, TrevorParscal, Jdlrobson, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Jrf, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, brion, fbstj, RobLa-WMF, Arlolra, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Krenair, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF triaged this task as "High" priority. RobLa-WMF claimed this task. RobLa-WMF added a comment. Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E170 (I'm shepherding this one) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Lowered Priority] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Ready for RFC meeting to Under discussion on the ArchCom-RfC board. RobLa-WMF lowered the priority of this task from "Normal" to "Low". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: Liuxinyu970226, MarcoAurelio, RobLa-WMF, gerritbot, Quiddity, Bene, hoo, zhuyifei1999, jayvdb, Spage, Isarra, Smalyshev, Ltrlg, GWicke, Purodha, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Krenair, MrStradivarius, Legoktm, TTO, Anomie, ori, aaron, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF added a comment. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom/ plans to discuss this next week in E184: RFC Meeting: RFC: Requirements for change propagation (2016-05-18, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E184> In order to have a productive conversation, we need to figure out which things are done and decided, and which items need broader consensus. Which questions should we focus on next week? Which questions need to be answered before this is approved/or rejected? What does "approved" mean in this context? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Raised Priority] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap
RobLa-WMF raised the priority of this task from "Low" to "Normal". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: Liuxinyu970226, MarcoAurelio, RobLa-WMF, gerritbot, Quiddity, Bene, hoo, zhuyifei1999, jayvdb, Spage, Isarra, Smalyshev, Ltrlg, GWicke, Purodha, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Krenair, MrStradivarius, Legoktm, TTO, Anomie, ori, aaron, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap
RobLa-WMF added a comment. We discussed this in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171 today. Full notes are https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171#2016 The summary: > - question discussed: which backends should InterwikiLookup support? (robla, 21:10:54) > - i imagine every wiki would read three files actually (and perform a deep merge): one with info shared across the family, one with info shared accross the laanguage, and one with local overrides for the specific wiki (DanielK_WMDE, 21:22:54) > - aude: also can interwiki ids be renamed? daniel: you can add prefixes. (DanielK_WMDE, 21:23:42) > - an entry can have multiple global ids. they act as aliases. only one of them would be used as a key in the file, makign it the *canonical* global id. (DanielK_WMDE, 21:24:05) > - another thing we should have is configuration for sorting order of interwiki ids (maintained in a sane place) (DanielK_WMDE, 21:33:00) > - LINK: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Interwiki_config-sorting_order-native-languagename (aude, 21:33:23) > - LINK: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Interwiki_config-sorting_order-native-languagename-firstword (aude, 21:33:26) > - anyway, yes, the JSON format you propose looks very extensible and will presumably meet our needs (DanielK_WMDE, 21:33:39) > - LINK: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Interwiki_config-sorting_order-native-languagename-firstword (DanielK_WMDE, 21:34:21) > - I don't want to have m:Interwiki_map anymore (DanielK_WMDE, 21:36:27) > - Tim is not convinced that interwiki info should be maintained by hand as json. Perhaps we still want dumpInterwiki (or equivaloent) (DanielK_WMDE, 21:50:15) > - Tim thinks we need to figure out what information can be taken from wgConf, and what should come from elsewhere, and how to maintain it. But it's not a blocker for now, we can figure iot out later (DanielK_WMDE, 21:53:55) > - next week's meeting: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E184 RFC: Requirements for change propagation (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476) (robla, 21:57:21) > - Tim thinks it's ok to go ahead with implementing the proposed next steps, as they are non-threatening. But should we have a formal last call? (DanielK_WMDE, 22:02:40) We agreed that there's no reason to go to last call, because we weren't making a final decision. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: Liuxinyu970226, MarcoAurelio, RobLa-WMF, gerritbot, Quiddity, Bene, hoo, zhuyifei1999, jayvdb, Spage, Isarra, Smalyshev, Ltrlg, GWicke, Purodha, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Krenair, MrStradivarius, Legoktm, TTO, Anomie, ori, aaron, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T89733: Allow ContentHandler to expose structured data to the search engine.
RobLa-WMF edited projects, added ArchCom-RfC (ArchCom-Approved); removed ArchCom-RfC. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: gerritbot, EBernhardson, DannyH, hoo, Deskana, RobLa-WMF, Tgr, Yurik, dcausse, JanZerebecki, Smalyshev, matthiasmullie, aude, Ricordisamoa, Krenair, MZMcBride, bd808, brion, Manybubbles, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, GWicke, jayvdb, fbstj, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF added a comment. @GWicke - I made a conversion of the description to wikitext at mw:User:RobLa-WMF/T102476 <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:RobLa-WMF/T102476>. The next step will be to convert it into mw.org RFC format. RFCs with long prose seem better to have over on mw.org, with a short description + link here on Phab; MediaWiki's editing and diffing tools are better (yay you folks!) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Under discussion to Ready for RFC meeting on the ArchCom-RfC board. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: RobLa-WMF Cc: Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap
RobLa-WMF added a comment. @Daniel nominated this RFC for discussion at next week's ArchCom-RFC meeting (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171), which seemed like a good idea to everyone at the time. The last RFC meeting we had on this subject was October, and there's now patch 285018 <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285018> awaiting review in Gerrit. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel, RobLa-WMF Cc: RobLa-WMF, gerritbot, Quiddity, Bene, hoo, zhuyifei1999, jayvdb, Spage, Isarra, Smalyshev, Ltrlg, GWicke, Purodha, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Krenair, MrStradivarius, Legoktm, TTO, Anomie, ori, aaron, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Under discussion to In progress on the ArchCom-RfC board. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, RobLa-WMFCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, MarcoAurelio, RobLa-WMF, gerritbot, Quiddity, Bene, hoo, zhuyifei1999, jayvdb, Spage, Isarra, Smalyshev, Ltrlg, GWicke, Purodha, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Krenair, MrStradivarius, Legoktm, TTO, Anomie, ori, aaron, Aklapper, daniel, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T107595#2462578, @daniel wrote: Sorry, couldn't make it to the meeting. Let's talk about it next week. Okee doke, let's add it to the agenda of E234TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, RobLa-WMFCc: LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T105638: RFC: Streamlining Composer usage
RobLa-WMF assigned this task to daniel.RobLa-WMF added a comment. Shepherd assigned in E236TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105638EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, RobLa-WMFCc: Scott_WUaS, RobLa-WMF, adrianheine, Ricordisamoa, MoritzMuehlenhoff, dduvall, Tgr, mobrovac, GWicke, Addshore, Spage, greg, tstarling, aude, hoo, daniel, thcipriani, mmodell, bd808, csteipp, Legoktm, Krinkle, hashar, JanZerebecki, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Lynhg, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, Malyacko, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T105845: Page components / content widgets
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Backlog to GWicke on the Archcom-has-shepherd board. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105845WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1892/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GWicke, RobLa-WMFCc: RandomDSdevel, jmadler, Bianjiang, LikeLifer, MGChecker, -jem-, Daniel_Mietchen, StudiesWorld, Kelson, Jonas, daniel, Jhernandez, Qgil, MrStradivarius, JanZerebecki, Quiddity, mobrovac, ssastry, Tgr, Ltrlg, Inez, cscott, TrevorParscal, Jdlrobson, GWicke, merbst, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Jrf, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, brion, fbstj, RobLa-WMF, Arlolra, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Krenair, Legoktm___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Backlog to RobLa-WMF on the Archcom-has-shepherd board. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1892/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: Mholloway, Liuxinyu970226, Scott_WUaS, Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Backlog (blocked or draft) to Inbox on the ArchCom-RfC board.RobLa-WMF added a comment. My understanding is that @brion and @daniel have been working on this this week. Their work: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/217710/ . I'd like to discuss the state of this RFC in our planning meeting tomorrow (E227)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, RobLa-WMFCc: LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T105845: Page components / content widgets
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reassigned] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF reassigned this task from daniel to brion.RobLa-WMF moved this task from Inbox to Under discussion on the ArchCom-RfC board.RobLa-WMF added a comment. Assigning per E234 discussionTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. @daniel , I've added a stub at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Multi-content_revisions Could you port the bulk of the prose of this RFC over there?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, RobLa-WMFCc: Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T105638: RFC: Streamlining Composer usage
RobLa-WMF moved this task from Inbox to Needs shepherd on the ArchCom-RfC board.RobLa-WMF added a comment. We discussed this at E227 last week, and @Krinkle suggested a more substantive response to @csteipp's T105638#1515362 review would be helpful. This also needs a shepherd to move forward. @daniel, is that something you can take on?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105638WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: Scott_WUaS, RobLa-WMF, adrianheine, Ricordisamoa, MoritzMuehlenhoff, dduvall, Tgr, mobrovac, GWicke, Addshore, Spage, greg, tstarling, aude, hoo, daniel, thcipriani, mmodell, bd808, csteipp, Legoktm, Krinkle, hashar, JanZerebecki, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Lynhg, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, Malyacko, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T109836: Try replacing Wikibase usages with API usages
RobLa-WMF edited subscribers, added: RobLa-WMF; removed: RobLa.RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T109836#2430843, @Jdlrobson wrote: @Anomie I see this discussion come up again and again and see this pattern repeat itself in numerous codebases - some are keen to adopt these - others are not. Could I ask that you start a wikitech-l discussion with your arguments so we can resolve this argument once and for all and capture it on wiki. cc @RobLa this might be a good RFC? This may indeed be a good #ArchCom-RFC, especially if the goal is to capture the consensus view regarding a particular pattern or antipattern on wiki.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109836EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: RobLa-WMF, Anomie, Jdlrobson, hoo, Aklapper, JanZerebecki, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, daniel, Legoktm, JeroenDeDauw, Ricordisamoa, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Tgr___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unassigned] T105638: RFC: Streamlining Composer usage
RobLa-WMF raised the priority of this task from "Lowest" to "Needs Triage".RobLa-WMF removed JanZerebecki as the assignee of this task.RobLa-WMF moved this task from Backlog (blocked or draft) to Inbox on the ArchCom-RfC board.RobLa-WMF added a comment. This seems worth discussing in the ArchCom RFC triage process (discussion: Z425 or wikitech-l)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105638WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: RobLa-WMF, adrianheine, Ricordisamoa, MoritzMuehlenhoff, dduvall, Tgr, mobrovac, GWicke, Addshore, Spage, greg, tstarling, aude, hoo, daniel, thcipriani, mmodell, bd808, csteipp, Legoktm, Krinkle, hashar, JanZerebecki, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Lynhg, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, Malyacko, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T109836: Try replacing Wikibase usages with API usages
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T109836#2433074, @daniel wrote: We can have this as an ArchCom session, but there was quite a strong consensus when we discussed this in Lyon The problem that @Jdlrobson correctly identified is that the discussion wasn't captured in a way that we can clearly refer back to it. An RFC is a great tool for that. An ArchCom session is merely a tool to help create a well-written RFC. [Consensus in Lyon]: don't use the Web API interface and FauxRequests for internal requests. Reasons: It's a "stringly typed" interface, it lacks type safety the encoding/decoding is a performance issue. it makes things very hard to test - it's an antithesis to the idea of injecting narrow, easy-to-mock interfaces. Best practice IMHO: make business logic that does not know or care about UI or web API, write a thin layer of UI or API on top of it. Would someone be willing to file that an #ArchCom-RFC?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109836EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: RobLa-WMF, Anomie, Jdlrobson, hoo, Aklapper, JanZerebecki, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, daniel, Legoktm, JeroenDeDauw, Ricordisamoa, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Tgr___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T124569: RFC: Data namespace blob storage on wikidata.org
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. On 2016-09-05, @daniel moved the description of this task to mw:Multi-Content_Revisions That page now has many subpages, described in Daniel's recent email to wikitech-l This is tentatively slated to be discussed in our ArchCom IRC meeting in a couple of weeks (E273, scheduled for 2016-09-21). There's a lot to sift through. Daniel: a while back, you posted this list of questions: Open questions: Do we need to record the (primary) slots in th edatabase, so we can enumerate them reliably? Alternatively, we could ask all relevant services for all possible slots to get an enumeration. Can primary content be stored outside the blob-store model? Related: should the slot table really have blob URLs? Multiple "events" per revisions may be useful: each "like", each "view", each "comment", etc. "sub-revisions"? Versioning for content models (wikibase model 0.1, 0.2, 1.0, 2.0; parsoid html 1.0, 1.1, 1.2...) Drop content formats? Slot content: use Content interface? More basic RevisionData interface? Or allow specialized interfaces, such as ParserOutput objects? Optional meta-data associated with slots (etag, etc?)? with revisions (rev-props)? with blobs (hash, size)? Are those still the key questions? Which ones have been answered?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T141877: Update Multi-Content-Revision design document, and move it to mw.org
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T141877#2593812, @daniel wrote: Work in progress: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multi-Content_Revisions Great! Getting the RFC moved over should be a simple cut and paste with the fix to T132006 going out today. See https://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/User:RobLa/MCRTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141877EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, RobLa-WMFCc: brion, Jdforrester-WMF, Aklapper, GWicke, cscott, Tgr, TomT0m, RobLa-WMF, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T107595#2667512, @daniel wrote: I think little of that complexity should be exposed to users. We probably don't want editors to freely mix and match slots - rather, we want an integrated experience for editing and display. Ideally editors should neither know nor care about slots. I think I agree with you, but you say this in a way that sounds dangerous. The risk: the more that our data formats become a complex mystery that is only understood by a handful of people, the fewer people that will trust the systems we produce. It's true that ideally, editors should not need to understand the underlying formats. We should create systems that are easy for both humans and computers to understand and manipulate. If we do this, we'll provide the ability to create user interfaces that behave intuitively. Advanced editors will learn the underlying model, and will be able to intuitively grasp the nature of the inevitable problems we'll have with the systems we build. They will also understand how to explain those problems to less advanced editors. However, the more we try to hide the underlying storage format, the less that the most active editors will trust the systems we produce. Let's make sure that we come up with a system that is easy to explain what a revision is at the byte level.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: Alsee, Pppery, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T107595#2671264, @daniel wrote: In T107595#2668520, @RobLa-WMF wrote: The risk: the more that our data formats become a complex mystery that is only understood by a handful of people, the fewer people that will trust the systems we produce. Ah, yes, I agree. The structure of our content should be clearly defined and easy to grasp for interested people. That structure will become slightly more complex with MCR, since we add a level of indirection. On the plus side, the data formats used to represent things like categories or page assessments or license information will become a lot clearer and easier to understand and re-use. Well, the "lot clearer" assertion remains to be seen. I think the current proposal still seems like an enormous change. I'm starting to wrap my head around it, but I can't fault many skeptics for questioning whether this represents a "minimum viable product". I realize there are many use cases, but what single use case would you consider your single must-have use case for an MVP?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: Alsee, Pppery, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T107595#2674782, @daniel wrote: To me as a Wikidata developer, the "killer use case" is structured media info, but e.g. James, Mark, or Kaldari may have other priorities. The Wikidata team will provide a brief summary of the requirement and rationale for structured media info soon, but to get it right, we want to coordinate with the WMF multimedia team first. I may update the description of this task and of the RFC on mediawiki.org to say this. This answer isn't etched in stone, but when someone asks me "what is the MVP for Multi-Content Revisions", I'll say "structured media info". I'm not sure which URL I'll point them to, but I'm sure I'll find something. (Please note that I'm out of office until October 24; I'll be working some of the time, but I will be traveling and attending a conference) Thanks for reminding us of this. You're obviously the primary contact from WMDE for this, but who is the product manager from WMDE whose work would be blocked if this is delayed? Is that @Lydia_Pintscher or someone else?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: ggellerman, Alsee, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unassigned] T102476: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
RobLa-WMF removed RobLa-WMF as the assignee of this task.RobLa-WMF moved this task from Under discussion to In progress on the ArchCom-RfC board.RobLa-WMF added a comment. I'm leaving myself marked as the shepherd on the #archcom-has-shepherd board. The role of shepherd is mainly advisory, and not a good use for "assignee". Also, moving this to the "in progress" (called "on track" in T102476#2381742)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102476WORKBOARDhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/52/EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RobLa-WMFCc: Mholloway, Liuxinyu970226, Scott_WUaS, Ottomata, Smalyshev, ArielGlenn, hoo, Addshore, RobLa-WMF, StudiesWorld, intracer, JanZerebecki, brion, Ltrlg, Anomie, Milimetric, mark, BBlack, aaron, daniel, Eevans, mobrovac, GWicke, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Hardikj, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions
RobLa-WMF added a comment. In T107595#2666094, @Alsee wrote: Did anyone consider that it might be a bad idea to start building a radical change to the editing environment without investigating whether the editing community wants this? Each of the use cases have had quite a bit of discussion, and has had quite a bit of investigation by the people proposing it. For example, changing the way that licensing and media metadata is stored is documented here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data Many of the other use cases have similarly deep analysis with similarly long histories. In general, the work that Daniel and many other people are doing at WMDE is work that affects core infrastructure, so there's not one single editing community we can ask. It also affects people outside the Wikimedia editing community. It has the same sort of complexity as interlanguage links had before Wikidata came along. Discussing it in the context of MediaWiki.org seems like a sensible place to put an RFC, and thus that's why we're discussing it here now. Now, it would seem as though you are bringing this point up now because you're worried about making the system more complicated. Yes, that seems like a reasonable fear. A multi-slot "revision" seems similar to a file system fork, and will inevitably come with the same complexity. I'm eager to see how we make the case that this complexity is worth it.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: Alsee, Pppery, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
