Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
 Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments
 ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF
 contacted me six months before.
 In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

 In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3
 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the
 people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we
 requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy.
 Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal,
 and would take more two months.

 It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
 happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

 I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
 Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really
 isn't easy.

 What do you think?

To clarify: you're talking about selecting scholarship recipients, right?

Roan

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Mateus Nobre

Yeah, I'm. 

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 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
 
 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
  Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments
  ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF
  contacted me six months before.
  In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
 
  In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3
  months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the
  people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we
  requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy.
  Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal,
  and would take more two months.
 
  It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
  happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
 
  I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
  Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really
  isn't easy.
 
  What do you think?
 
 To clarify: you're talking about selecting scholarship recipients, right?
 
 Roan
 
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Béria Lima
How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

  http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

 Hello everyone,

 As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
 Yeah.

 But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
 but I wanna clarify to you.

 U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
 over need a visa to enter in.

 Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best
 moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D)
 * and WMF contacted me six months before.
 In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

 In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
 the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
 When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
 Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
 appeal, and would take more two months.

 It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
 happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

 I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
 Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
 really isn't easy.

 What do you think?

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Béria Lima
wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.

We also have wik...@lists.wikimedia.org , li...@wikimedia.pt and
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow
any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

  For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this
 someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some
 countries is really hard


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 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +
 From: berial...@gmail.com

 To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

 How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
 made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
 scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
 visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
 now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
 result for your application.
 _
 *Béria Lima*
 http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
 estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


 On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

  http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

 Hello everyone,

 As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
 Yeah.

 But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
 but I wanna clarify to you.

 U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
 over need a visa to enter in.

 Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best
 moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D)
 * and WMF contacted me six months before.
 In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

 In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
 the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
 When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
 Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
 appeal, and would take more two months.

 It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
 happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

 I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
 Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
 really isn't easy.

 What do you think?

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Mateus Nobre

Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid 
problems to Wikimania staff. 

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +
From: berial...@gmail.com
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.

We also have wik...@lists.wikimedia.org , li...@wikimedia.pt and 
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any 
of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:






For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may 
not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is 
really hard



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +
From: berial...@gmail.com

To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in 
January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send 
a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 
months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month 
in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.

_
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(351) 925 171 484

Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre 
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.





On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:







http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries



Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I 
wanna clarify to you.



U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over 
need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments 
ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF 
contacted me six months before. 


In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 
months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the 
people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we 
requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. 
Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and 
would take more two months. 



It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens 
in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest 
as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.



What do you think?

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Mateus Nobre

Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months 
would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried 
visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can 
be denied.

_
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From: mateus.no...@live.co.uk
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue








Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid 
problems to Wikimania staff. 

_
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  30440865


Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +
From: berial...@gmail.com
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.

We also have wik...@lists.wikimedia.org , li...@wikimedia.pt and 
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any 
of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre 
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:






For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may 
not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is 
really hard



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +
From: berial...@gmail.com

To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in 
January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send 
a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 
months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month 
in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.

_
Béria Lima
(351) 925 171 484

Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre 
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.





On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:







http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries



Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I 
wanna clarify to you.



U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over 
need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments 
ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF 
contacted me six months before. 


In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 
months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the 
people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we 
requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. 
Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and 
would take more two months. 



It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens 
in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest 
as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.



What do you think?

_
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
 Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
 It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
 months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
 countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
 and always can be denied.

I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.
That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting
scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Béria Lima
Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania
scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.
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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

  Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
 It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
 months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
 countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
 and always can be denied.

 _
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 From: mateus.no...@live.co.uk
 To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300

 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

  Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

 A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
 avoid problems to Wikimania staff.


 _
 MateusNobre
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 --
 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +
 From: berial...@gmail.com
 To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

 wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.

 We also have wik...@lists.wikimedia.org , li...@wikimedia.pt and
 http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanadahttp://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada(if
  you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what
 else they can be ;) )
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 On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

  For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this
 someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some
 countries is really hard


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 --
 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +
 From: berial...@gmail.com

 To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

 How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
 made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
 scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
 visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
 now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
 result for your application.
 _
 *Béria Lima*
 http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
 estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


 On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

  http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

 Hello everyone,

 As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
 Yeah.

 But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
 but I wanna clarify to you.

 U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
 over need a visa to enter in.

 Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best
 moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D)
 * and WMF contacted me six months before.
 In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

 In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
 the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
 When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
 Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
 appeal, and would take more two months.

 It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
 happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

 I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
 Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
 really isn't easy.

 What do you think?

 _
 MateusNobre
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Mateus Nobre

Sorry for the errors, I'm writing fast.
I'm already prevented, the problem is the people who doesn't have the visa yet. 

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:55:41 +0100
From: sterke...@gmail.com
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Ehm... scholarship and suprise?

You should be able to check if its possble to get a visa before you apply? The 
same goes for taking vacation

2011/11/1 Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk






For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may 
not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is 
really hard



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +
From: berial...@gmail.com

To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in 
January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send 
a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 
months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month 
in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.

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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:







http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries



Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I 
wanna clarify to you.



U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over 
need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments 
ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF 
contacted me six months before. 


In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 
months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the 
people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we 
requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. 
Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and 
would take more two months. 



It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens 
in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest 
as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.



What do you think?

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

2011-11-01 Thread Josh Lim
I'm not sure if this helps: but can we get some perspectives on how the 
organizers of Wikimania 2006 (which was held in the U.S.) handled this issue?

Josh
 
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From: Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue


 
Sorry for the errors, I'm writing fast.
I'm already prevented, the problem is the people who doesn't have the visa yet. 


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:55:41 +0100
From: sterke...@gmail.com
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Ehm... scholarship and suprise?

You should be able to check if its possble to get a visa before you apply? The 
same goes for taking vacation


2011/11/1 Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk

For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may 
not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is 
really hard


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +
From: berial...@gmail.com

To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue


How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made 
in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - 
send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at 
least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a 
dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_
Béria Lima
(351) 925 171 484

Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre 
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a 
fazer.



On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! 
Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I 
wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over 
need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa(the best moments 
ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF 
contacted me six months before. 
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 
months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the 
people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we 
requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. 
Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, 
and would take more two months. 

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens 
in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. 
Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really 
isn't easy.

What do you think?

_
MateusNobre
Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
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