Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding bot maintenance
Hi, On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:04 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: WereSpielChequers wrote: One of the areas that I would like to see the foundation putting in money is for the running and maintenance of wanted orphan bots. I think specific examples might help here. ... and specific requests are welcome under https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/, where they might be turned into project ideas for developer outreach programs or Individual Engagement Grants. You don't even need to formulate the perfect proposal. Just start drafting, and if the proposal generates interest it is likely that others will chime in and help polishing it. These tools exist here and now, and you might want to try them out. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bye
When was odder put on moderation, and what for? On 24 Feb 2015 14:49, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: John Mark Vandenberg, 23/02/2015 21:59: Which email ? the crowdfunding email? Yes, because odder is in moderation (like many others, it seems). Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed
After thinking about John's response, I've realized that those works should go into public domain (actually, under CC-BY, as Serbian laws don't recognize PD outside strictly defined works not created by author in the sense of laws and other similar works; it's been explicitly stated that moral responsibility can't be abandoned, which creates CC-BY conditions). It's about works of public interest and they should be freely accessible. However, Sj reminded me about the real meaning of ND and this opens two connected issues. The right address for the first one is Creative Commons, while the second one is technical and should be solved inside of Wikidata or Wikisource or even Wikiquote. Let's forget for a moment any normative work. Take as an example any public domain work, like King James' translation of Bible is. There is a need to quote portions of Bible for any relevant reason. It's public domain and we can quote the whole Bible if we want. But we want to be sure that the quote is genuine and not dependent on random vandalism. So, we need a software solution to import particular quote into a Wikipedia article, while not giving a chance anyone to edit it. Back to the licensing. Every normative work needs to be quoted in the verbatim form. But it's not ND, as you should be able to quote any statement of the work. It's not a proprietary license, as you should be able to quote the whole work if you have such need. (A sum of Wikipedia articles could easily quote the whole Normative Grammar.) Thus, we need a kind of verbatim license, which should say that you could quote any statement and that there is no limit in the number of quotes or percentage of particular work. BTW, I didn't ask this question in relation to the copyright holder rights. This is related to the reliability of particular copy of prescriptive or reference work. You can't say we guarantee that this particular quote is verbatim if it could be edited by anyone. And while *our* works should be edited by anyone, we have to rely on verbatim works (thus references). The question is do we have capacity to keep such works on our projects. (There is no question if we want it, as we have Wikisource and Wikiquote.) One thing is a culture of particular Wikimedia project, the other is the need to have software and legal framework for that. On Feb 24, 2015 8:30 PM, Gergő Tisza gti...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I would actually say: Is there a point to have a prescriptive work without ND clause? Course there is. The text of the CC licenses, for example, is under CC0; Creative Commons is trademarked and that trademark is used to prevent misuse (but do not prevent e.g. translations). That is a fairly standard arrangement for free documents which need to have an official version. I would turn that question around: is there a point for a prescriptive work to have an ND clause? If someone wrote their alternative version of the Normative Grammar of Serbian Language from scratch, without reusing creative elements of the existing text (keep in mind that non-creative elements, which for a grammar I imagine is the majority of the content, cannot be copyrighted), would that be somehow less problematic? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
Hello, On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia community information channels. I posted about this on the talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Crowdfunding#User_banned_for_discussing_crowdfunding If [[WP:CROWDFUNDING]], which is mostly blanked pending a community discussion of whether crowdfunding can be mentioned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Crowdfunding yours, On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-24 14:55 GMT+01:00 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:59 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Which email ? the crowdfunding email? Austin, do the list admins have another perspective to justify their action? [...] I'd like the answer to this question too. It does seem the crowdfunding e-mail, also the original e-mail was crossposted to Commons-l and WIkimedia-l. Possibly Nemo overlooked this, but anyway I do not think this is a good reason to put someone in the moderation list. If this was the rationale, this action should be undone. C ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the Wikimedia strategy consultation
On 24 February 2015 at 01:25, ido ivri idoi...@gmail.com wrote: Today, we're kicking-off a two-week community consultation about the future of Wikimedia. Why only these two questions? And why only two weeks? I fear this is not really a consultation but a survey. +1. With a two week window once every X years, this is not a consultation. Even my local Council do a better job on planned consultation on how to spend the tax-payer's money compared to this, and they ignore community suggestions 97% of the time. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On 24 February 2015 at 13:55, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like the answer to this question too. Could there be some transparency please? I believe it would be a good time for the list mods to publicly decide how appeals to moderation or list-bans should work in a way that is credibly non-partisan to the community. Moderation should be seen to be fair and not subject to allegations of it's a question of who is mates with whom, or who wants to keep the most political capital with unnamed power-holders. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the Wikimedia strategy consultation
Maggie Dennis wrote: You could be on to something there, Craig. :) I think it's fair to say that somebody might change his mind in five years for all kinds of reasons - including being asked nicely. This process is obviously geared to differ widely from the last. Hopefully it will be a good approach for everyone. In terms of the nature of the conversation, it is about the future of the movement. There's already quite a lot of feedback on the talk page from people who seem happy to discuss exactly that. If you want to join in specifically to share your thoughts on the future of the Wikimedia Foundation, MZ, that would be welcome, too. Why would I get involved in a process with somebody who can't keep his word? It would lend legitimacy to the process and allow Philippe and others to manipulate the involvement into a bold claim of community consultation (X users posted to the talk page, see!). I try to learn from past mistakes. I was fairly involved in the last strategic planning process and largely due to that experience I don't trust Philippe to be involved again. My two questions remain unanswered. If you want to pretend as though he's being coerced, that's your business, though I personally find this view pretty disrespectful. Are you seriously suggesting that if Philippe said no, I'd rather not be involved this time that he would be forced? What would that say about his boss? MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:59 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Which email ? the crowdfunding email? Austin, do the list admins have another perspective to justify their action? -- John Vandenberg I'd like the answer to this question too. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the Wikimedia strategy consultation
I largely agree with Risker. I was not involved in the last consultation. I'm taking a wait and see approach with this one. My hard-earned experience on this mailing list is that an approach of problem solving rather than stone throwing tends to get more cooperation and better results. I still get annoyed from time to time, but I try to channel that energy in ways that will get results. I will have a more informed view of this strategy process when my earlier questions are answered. Cheers, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-24 15:52 GMT+01:00 Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com: On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia community information channels. With more and more Wikimedians engaging in crowdfunding, I suppose we can talk about whether the mailing list for Wikimedia movement organization is the place to advertise in this way. For my part, I don't think a simple (i.e., without any additional context) please check out this Indiegogo is any different from hey, check out my blog, so when the last one came through the queue I rejected it without much thought. It certainly wasn't done with any prejudice. As far as this mailing list [i.e. Wikimedia-l] is concerned I can say that Wikimedia-related crowdfunding projects have been discussed here in the past. The first example is probably the The Vanamo Online Game Museum[1] campaign and the last is a project to collect funds for a Wimiedian photographer whose equipment was stolen[2]. Not to mention the WikiCheese campaign[3] by Wikimedia France which generated more than some 50 messages on this list. That's true. In the case of the former, the post was never held for moderation, and it was *so* not a big deal that I didn't think twice about that one, either. WikiCheese was a bit of fun that made us all smile, and I guess if you really wanted to analyze it (I don't), it was a project that invited broader participation and benefited the community as a whole. But, again, I really didn't care either way. The only reason this came up here is because the latest poster had been put on moderation, and some people are still unhappy about that. Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: With more and more Wikimedians engaging in crowdfunding, I suppose we can talk about whether the mailing list for Wikimedia movement organization is the place to advertise in this way. For my part, I don't think a simple (i.e., without any additional context) please check out this Indiegogo is any different from hey, check out my blog, so when the last one came through the queue I rejected it without much thought. It certainly wasn't done with any prejudice. For my part, I always like to see crowdfunding pitches from Wikimedians. There haven't been *that* many of them (maybe 8 or 10?), and so far they've all (that I've seen) come from prolific contributors. These crowdfunding pitches generally take a lot more effort to put together than a blog post does, and they are also easy and satisfying to act on. If I can take 3 minutes and a few dollars to simultaneously say thanks to a great contributor and help them make even better contributions, I'm grateful for that opportunity. -Sage ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding bot maintenance
Thanks for your replies, and for John's very kind offer. As this involves various inactive and semi inactive bot operators I will give John an off list response re that. On MzMcBride's points, I don't know the relative costs of employing programmers in San Francisco v other parts of the world. I am more familiar with the huge contrast in relative labour costs of London v Tbilisi. My point was that Python programming could be done pretty much anywhere so if we launched such a team we might as well do it where movement money would go furthest. As for the idea that we want scalable, sustainable, and secure tools, I agree and think my suggestion would contribute to that. We still want volunteers to write bots that do useful things. Some of those will be deemed so useful and essential that they need to be incorporated into mediawiki, some will be transient things that might run for a few years but only be needed by their bot operator. Having a bot adoption resource would be useful for things that fit in between, ones where the wiki can live without them for a weekend whilst their bot operator needs their server for something else. But which if they don't run for months leave a loophole in our quality improvement programmes. So more scale able and sustainable than bots are today, but not as much as things that need to be added into the mediawiki code. Regards Jonathan Cardy On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:04, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Funding bot maintenance (WereSpielChequers) 2. Re: Funding bot maintenance (John) 6. Re: Funding bot maintenance (MZMcBride) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:53:53 -0500 From: John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding bot maintenance Message-ID: CAP-JHpm7g+FPosjye2=xh+iqyh8xcbpfb8ee3tdspkpdwke...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am a dev and am willing to replace a tool when it dies. I have a fairly large infrastructure of code that makes it fairly easy On Sunday, February 22, 2015, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: One of the areas that I would like to see the foundation putting in money is for the running and maintenance of wanted orphan bots. Wanted in the sense that editors are using them or would if they were still running, and orphan in the sense that the original developer isn't around or available to run them/migrate them to the latest platform. If we work on the premise that community funds should go for things that volunteers want to have happen but aren't volunteering to do, then this is a classic and uncontentious niche. Programmers like to write new code and solve new problems, but the person with the idea or who writes new code doesn't always have the time and motivation to keep maintaining and running that code, let alone creating slightly bespoke version for scores of our thousand wikis. Now it may be that we are in an unusual situation that the migration from toolserver to labs has cost us a number of bots that would otherwise have continued for years. But there will always be demand to localise existing bots for wikis where they don't currently run, and in the long run all of our volunteer bot writers are likely to move on. Employing a python programmer or two somewhere cheap like India or South America would not be a huge investment for the foundation, but it would be a valuable service to the community, and unlike mediawiki development this could be completely volunteer driven with wikimedians deciding which bots are worth maintaining and their relative priority. Disclosure: whilst I'm not pitching for the money for this, I would be front of the queue to ask such a maintainer to take on bots that I used to use the results of and in at least one case which I designed. Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers Message: 6 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:04:31 -0500 From: MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding bot maintenance Message-ID: d10fa52d.4d2b...@mzmcbride.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 WereSpielChequers wrote: One of the areas that I would like to see the foundation putting in money is for the running and maintenance of wanted orphan bots. I think specific examples might help here. If we're talking about category renaming bots or talk page archiving bots, I wouldn't mind if they died. The key is having suitable replacements in place first, of course. Employing a python programmer or two somewhere cheap like India or South America would not be a huge investment for the foundation, but it would be a valuable service to the community, and unlike mediawiki development this could be completely volunteer driven with wikimedians deciding which bots are
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
2015-02-24 15:52 GMT+01:00 Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com: On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia community information channels. As far as this mailing list [i.e. Wikimedia-l] is concerned I can say that Wikimedia-related crowdfunding projects have been discussed here in the past. The first example is probably the The Vanamo Online Game Museum[1] campaign and the last is a project to collect funds for a Wimiedian photographer whose equipment was stolen[2]. Not to mention the WikiCheese campaign[3] by Wikimedia France which generated more than some 50 messages on this list. C [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-November/128695.html [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-December/075706.html [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-November/075476.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
Hopefully this was just an error than. When is Nemo being un-moderated? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I would actually say: Is there a point to have a prescriptive work without ND clause? Course there is. The text of the CC licenses, for example, is under CC0; Creative Commons is trademarked and that trademark is used to prevent misuse (but do not prevent e.g. translations). That is a fairly standard arrangement for free documents which need to have an official version. I would turn that question around: is there a point for a prescriptive work to have an ND clause? If someone wrote their alternative version of the Normative Grammar of Serbian Language from scratch, without reusing creative elements of the existing text (keep in mind that non-creative elements, which for a grammar I imagine is the majority of the content, cannot be copyrighted), would that be somehow less problematic? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New ED of Wikimedia Norway
Congratulations Astrid! On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Many congratulations, Astrid and WMNO! Wishing you all many more successes. Best, Vishnu On 02/23/2015 10:10 PM, Katy Love wrote: Congratulations, Astrid and Wikimedia Norge! Astrid, you have been a wonderful colleague over the last year plus. I wish you well in the new role, and I look forward to working together more closely. Warmly, Katy On Feb 23, 2015, at 3:15 AM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Astrid for being ED! Wish you and WMNO a prosperous future ahead. Tanweer Wikimedia Bangladesh -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Edward Galvez Program Evaluation Associate Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who are the nicest people on our projects ?
Thanks Fæ, those reports are very interesting from my perspective. However, even though the number of thanks received may be more reliable than the usual edit count, none of them could ever measure the invaluable impact of our contributors :-) Il 23/02/2015 16:57, Fæ ha scritto: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Faebot/thanks I have now set up a monthly report of the top 10 thankers / thankees with an index to the different project reports on the above link. These have been generated retrospectively for 2014 and I will shortly set this up on WMF labs to run at the beginning of each month to add last month's results.* Rather than running this automatically for several hundred projects, I am happy to add projects on request (so long as the thanks extension is being regularly used by more than 10 people!). Just drop a note on my meta talk page to request the addition. I have haphazardly picked 6 of the busiest projects to get started on, mainly as a multi-language test, not because I favour one language Wikipedia over another. :-) Time for someone to create a thank you barnstar of super thanks ? This is one of many ad-hoc reports run as Faebot, but if it becomes especially useful or critical to outreach projects I'll consider moving a stable version to a special bot account or similar. * - At the time of writing, the tables for 2014 are being generated. This may take the rest of the day to complete! If your project has recently been added, the reports might have to wait for the next monthly run depending on how much free wiki-time I have. Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New ED of Wikimedia Norway
Congratulations and all the best! 2015-02-25 0:32 GMT-06:00 Edward Galvez egal...@wikimedia.org: Congratulations Astrid! On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Many congratulations, Astrid and WMNO! Wishing you all many more successes. Best, Vishnu On 02/23/2015 10:10 PM, Katy Love wrote: Congratulations, Astrid and Wikimedia Norge! Astrid, you have been a wonderful colleague over the last year plus. I wish you well in the new role, and I look forward to working together more closely. Warmly, Katy On Feb 23, 2015, at 3:15 AM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Astrid for being ED! Wish you and WMNO a prosperous future ahead. Tanweer Wikimedia Bangladesh -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Edward Galvez Program Evaluation Associate Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Iván Martínez* *Wikimanía 2015 Chief CoordinatorUser:ProtoplasmaKid @protoplasmakidhttp://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org http://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org* Hemos creado la más grande colección de conocimiento compartido. Ayuda a proteger a Wikipedia, dona ahora: https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New template URL to diff
Il 02/01/2015 13:41, Ricordisamoa ha scritto:
Il 02/01/2015 12:45, Andy Mabbett ha scritto:
On 2 January 2015 at 10:46, Ricordisamoa
ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:
Honestly, I don't think it is easier to type {{subst:url to diff}} than
[[Special:Diff]].
It's not a matter of which is eaier to type. It's a matter of which is
the easier way for non techncial editrs to convert the URL in their
clipboard to something that we prefer on-wiki.
I'd rather suggest a global JavaScript gadget to replace those URLs
with
plain Special:Diff links, since the {{diff}} template does not work
in every
wiki.
Great; let me know when you've got that working.
That's it:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa/DiffAutoLinker.js
So? Have you ever tried it?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Renewal of Recognition to Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
The Affiliations Committee (AffCom) will be releasing more details about the changes to the Wikimedia User Group (WUG) Renewal Process, but I did want to share some info in this conversation that has already been posted on Meta[1] and will be discussed more in an upcoming blog post. In this specific case, we were in contact with one of the four listed organizers on the group's Meta page.[2] I was not personally the one that was in touch with them, but I believe it was Vinicius the AffCom members spoke with. My understanding is that the group will be posting more information on-wiki soon. However, I would obviously prefer they speak to that. Our resolution was based on our assessment that there was an interest to continue the group, and that they were not causing harm. Intentionally the process moving forward is not meant to be based on reports or requirements nearly as complex as those in place for chapters and thematic organizations (ThOrgs). We still encourage WUGs to produce reports (and certainly they will still have to do so for things like grants), and it is possible that will remain in the agreement. However, AffCom is using our authorized discretion, with the WMF Board's blessing, to be lenient on this specific issue to favor growth over bureaucracy. Essentially, we have received feedback that the user groups would like as little administrative burden as possible, and we are responding to that. If a user group is interested in remaining active and is not causing harm, they will be empowered to remain an affiliate. AffCom will be talking about reports for chapters and ThOrgs more in the coming months, but the conversation around WUGs is focused on simplification, promoting growth, and removing barriers to development of new groups - including complicated affiliation or renewal processes - while balancing the need to protect the community. I hope that helps answer your questions and provide insight into this evolving process. We appreciate the patience Wikimedians have shown as we all continue to learn from this new area of growth for Wikimedia. -greg aka varnent Vice Chair, Wikimedia Affiliations Committee [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Reports/January_2015_meeting [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Brasil On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, how are you guys? Cornelius Kibelka send me the link of this thread, by mistake, in one discussion on Meta.[1] And the Carlos Colina's answer is, lets say, wow! It's super freak weird!!!, because in the WMBR mailing list, one volunteer asked who send the request and one of the proposal's organizers wrote: *Eu não pedi e até onde sei ninguém pediu.* [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediabr-l/2015-February/016241.html pt en I did not request and as far I know, no one did. So, Mr. Colina, could pleas clarify to the Movement who requested? And where? Because the Brazilian community and not even the WUG BR proposal's organizers know that. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Overview_Eligibility_Statuses [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediabr-l/2015-February/016241.html -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Renewal of Recognition to Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
Hello, how are you guys? Cornelius Kibelka send me the link of this thread, by mistake, in one discussion on Meta.[1] And the Carlos Colina's answer is, lets say, wow! It's super freak weird!!!, because in the WMBR mailing list, one volunteer asked who send the request and one of the proposal's organizers wrote: *Eu não pedi e até onde sei ninguém pediu.* [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediabr-l/2015-February/016241.html pt en I did not request and as far I know, no one did. So, Mr. Colina, could pleas clarify to the Movement who requested? And where? Because the Brazilian community and not even the WUG BR proposal's organizers know that. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Overview_Eligibility_Statuses [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediabr-l/2015-February/016241.html -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bye
24.02.2015, 18:25, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com: I moderated Nemo when, after protesting the fact that Odder was still moderated (more on that later), he started forwarding messages for him. Before I had any chance to clear the matter up, he sent that message and quit in a huff. I was willing to unmoderate him, on the condition that he doesn't try to circumvent the moderation system in the future, but it seems that ship has sailed. He's free to subscribe again if he wishes. Austin, instead of moderating the guy before you have a chance to clear the matter up, why don't you clear the matter up before you moderate the guy? Trillium Corsage ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
