Re: [Wikimedia-l] LsJbot and geonames

2015-09-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
PLEASE reconsider. A Wikidata based solution is not superior because it
started from Wikidata.

PLEASE consider collaboration. It will be so much more powerful when LSJBOT
and people at Wikidata collaborate. It will get things right the first
time. It does not have to be perfect from the start as long as it gets
better over time. As long as we always work on improving the data.

PLEASE consider text generation based on Wikidata. They are the scripts
LSJBOT uses, they can help us improve the text when more or better
information becomes available.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 6 September 2015 at 08:25, Ricordisamoa 
wrote:

> Proper data-based stubs are being worked on:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1416/
> Lsjbot, you have no chance to survive make your time.
>
>
> Il 06/09/2015 02:40, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:
>
>> Geonames [1] is a database which holds around 9 M entries of geographical
>> related items from all over the world.
>>
>> Lsjbot is now generating articles from a subset of it, after several
>> months of extensive research on its quality, Wikidata relations and
>> notability issues. While the quality in some regions is substandard (and
>> these will not be generated) it was seen as very good in most areas.  In
>> the discussion  I was intrigued to learn that identical Arabic names should
>> be transcribed differently depending on its geographic location. And I was
>> fascinated of the question of notability of wells in the Bahrain desert
>> (which in the end was excluded, mostly because we knew too little of that
>> reality)
>>
>> In this run Lsjbot has extended its functionality even further then when
>> it generated articles for species. It looks for relevant geographical items
>> close to the actual one: a lake close by, a mountain and where is the
>> nearest major town etc.
>>
>> Macedonia  can be taken as one example. Lsjbot generated over 1
>> articles (and 5000 disambiguous pages) making it a magnitude more than what
>> exist in enwp. Also for a well defined type like villages, almost 50% as
>> many has been generated than existing in enwp. One example [2] where you
>> can see what has been generated (and note the reuse of a relevant figure
>> existing in frwp). Please compare the corresponding articles on other
>> languages in this case, many having less information than the bot generated
>> one.
>>
>> The generation is still in early stage [3) but has already got the
>> article count for svwp to pass 2 M  today.  But it will take many months
>> more before completed and perhaps more M marks will be passed before it is
>> through. If you want to give feedback you are welcome to enter it at [4]
>>
>> Anders
>> (with all credits for the Lsjbot to be given to Sverker, its owner, I am
>> just one of the many supporters of him and his bot on svwp)
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.geonames.org/about.html
>>
>> [2]
>> https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaki_%28ort_i_Makedonien%29
>>
>> [3]
>> https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Robotskapade_geografiartiklar
>>
>> [4]
>>
>> https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Lsjbot/Projekt_alla_platser
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [[wikimedia-I] Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Craig has a good point, but this is a lovely example of two projects planning 
on very different timescales. The most important countries for a future Wiki 
Loves Monuments campaign are some of the very countries that fundraising could 
have had this September, the ones where there has not yet been a WLM but where 
a group of volunteers will emerge in the next few months. How can one predict 
where they will be?


WereSpielChequers


>   3
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 13:39:25 +1000
> From: Craig Franklin 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
>in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
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> 
> Firstly, I'm delighted to see that a mutually acceptable compromise has
> been reached here.  Well done everyone in coming together with the best
> interests of the entire movement in mind.
> 
> If I can make a suggestion though, I'd suggest that the fundraising team
> and the community, particularly the WLM crew, get together *now* and try to
> work out how those campaigns are going to be coordinated so that this
> doesn't happen again next year, while there are still good vibes in the
> air.  Something we're all really bad at as a movement, is procrastinating
> on these sort of issues, but if there is a bit of forward planning there's
> no reason that everyone can't have their cake and eat it too.
> 
> Cheers,
> Craig
> 
> 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] LsJbot and geonames

2015-09-05 Thread Ricordisamoa
Proper data-based stubs are being worked on: 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1416/

Lsjbot, you have no chance to survive make your time.

Il 06/09/2015 02:40, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:
Geonames [1] is a database which holds around 9 M entries of 
geographical related items from all over the world.


Lsjbot is now generating articles from a subset of it, after several 
months of extensive research on its quality, Wikidata relations and 
notability issues. While the quality in some regions is substandard 
(and these will not be generated) it was seen as very good in most 
areas.  In the discussion  I was intrigued to learn that identical 
Arabic names should be transcribed differently depending on its 
geographic location. And I was fascinated of the question of 
notability of wells in the Bahrain desert (which in the end was 
excluded, mostly because we knew too little of that reality)


In this run Lsjbot has extended its functionality even further then 
when it generated articles for species. It looks for relevant 
geographical items close to the actual one: a lake close by, a 
mountain and where is the nearest major town etc.


Macedonia  can be taken as one example. Lsjbot generated over 1 
articles (and 5000 disambiguous pages) making it a magnitude more than 
what exist in enwp. Also for a well defined type like villages, almost 
50% as many has been generated than existing in enwp. One example [2] 
where you can see what has been generated (and note the reuse of a 
relevant figure existing in frwp). Please compare the corresponding 
articles on other languages in this case, many having less information 
than the bot generated one.


The generation is still in early stage [3) but has already got the 
article count for svwp to pass 2 M  today.  But it will take many 
months more before completed and perhaps more M marks will be passed 
before it is through. If you want to give feedback you are welcome to 
enter it at [4]


Anders
(with all credits for the Lsjbot to be given to Sverker, its owner, I 
am just one of the many supporters of him and his bot on svwp)


[1]
http://www.geonames.org/about.html

[2]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaki_%28ort_i_Makedonien%29

[3]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Robotskapade_geografiartiklar

[4]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Lsjbot/Projekt_alla_platser 






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-05 Thread Peter Southwood
Lila, As you have appended your message to this thread, I assume that there is 
a non-zero probability that you are referring to one or more of the  
contributors to the thread. I do not consider any of the mails included to be 
polarizing rhetoric, so could you inform us whether you do, and if so, which, 
or whether there was another reason why that specific comment was appended here.
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
[mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lila Tretikov
Sent: Saturday, 05 September 2015 7:16 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy 
largely blocked by WMF fundraising

First, thanks to all of those who worked in good faith, with patience and care 
for each other to solve this problem. I appreciate the level of compromise and 
empathy that was required from teams at WMIL and WMF. Thank you!

Second, I want to highlight that this is a *our* issue, we are a community and 
we need to think about our *one mission* to engage every human with knowledge, 
before our individual goals. Let's please remember that before we detract and 
distract with polarizing rhetoric (you know who you are on this list). Bring up 
issues, suggest solutions. But please, in good faith and with care for each 
other.

Thanks all,
Lila


On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> 
wrote:

> I was referring to the fundraising targets, which have been cited as a 
> cause of the dispute. WMIT/WLM have explained at length their reasons 
> for needing banners in September. I am in no position to comment on 
> whether their analysis is correct or not . Fundraising has not been so 
> forthcoming in response to queries.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
> Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 1:45 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 
> in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
>
> I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising 
> targets or the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify?
>
> My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a 
> deconfliction of banner space via better scheduling next year. I think 
> that someone suggested setting up a calendar to track banner use, 
> which might also be helpful.
>
> I think I'll step out of this conversation for the moment, and let the 
> stakeholders take it from here.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Peter Southwood < 
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that if you have a 
> > near miss incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal 
> > incident would be investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it 
> > is due, but so that the same situation can be avoided in the future.
> > Organisations that fail to do this are doomed to repeat their 
> > mistakes, not necessarily by the same people, who may well have 
> > learned, but often by other departments, where the people did not 
> > get
> the opportunity to learn by the mistake.
> > Refusal to answer reasonable and legitimate questions by 
> > stakeholders often leads to accusations of conspiracy and bad faith 
> > and can end in the local demagogues, of which we have an adequate 
> > supply, inciting the torch and pitchfork brigade. Things may go downhill at 
> > this point.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
> > Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 8:43 AM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves 
> > Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations 
> > (like the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community 
> > Resources / FDC) were working from different playbooks. But now that 
> > Fundraising has agreed to change their plans, I think we should give 
> > them some breathing room, especially because they say that banner 
> > scheduling will be coordinated next year.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Peter Southwood < 
> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Who set the targets that will now not be met, how were they 
> > > decided, and when were they set? I must assume that WLM annual 
> > > project was not taken into consideration by these planners.
> > > Cheers,
> > > P
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
> > > Sent: Thursday, 03 September 2015 10:51 PM
> > > To: Wikimedia Maili

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

2015-09-05 Thread Craig Franklin
As someone who has been telling anyone at the WMF who will listen that this
sort of capacity development is *essential* if community groups are going
to meet the governance requirements of the Foundation and actually achieve
measurable outcomes, I'm enormously pleased that something has finally been
done about this.  Nothing to add at this point except high fives and thanks
all around for everyone who was involved in making this happen.

Cheers,
Craig

On 26 August 2015 at 09:40, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> {{Nutshell|WMF Community Engagement Team is allocating staff time and
> funding to deliberate capacity-development projects with interested
> communities in six capacity areas: community governance; conflict
> management; on-wiki technical skills; new contributor engagement and
> growth; partnerships; communications}}
>
> ==Details==
> This is a new way of partnering with WMF: through two way conversations
> (rather than top-down planning), WMF will work with specific emerging
> communities to explore obstacles for community growth and explore and pilot
> solutions together.
>
> The first phase of this work consisted of a series of in-depth interviews
> with individuals from 16 specific emerging communities to gather
> information about existing and missing capacities.  Reviewing those
> interviews in aggregate, we came up with six capacities it seems useful to
> work together on.
>
> We prepared a page per such capacity, detailing challenges and possible
> approaches to build that capacity. We welcome your  feedback! Contributions
> to those pages can be done in the following ways:
>
> * Sign up on the sidebar of each capacity subpage if you want to implement
> certain practices described,
> * Provide more links to resources,
> * Expand the Potential Solutions section with new ideas.
>
> These pages, including your contributions, will serve as the basis for
> specific conversations with specific communities to develop plans or
> projects to build capacity.
>
> During this initial pilot period, we intend to pursue projects in two or
> three capacities at most, which will be chosen according to community
> interest, scale of community, and scale of readership.  We expect some of
> the specific actions we take in these projects would create resources
> [re-]usable by other communities as well.
>
> ==Join the Conversation==
> We invite you all to read through the capacity pages, and specifically, to
> see if the challenges described resonate with you and your community.  If
> they do, have an on-wiki discussion about it with your community, and if
> there's general interest, sign up on the capacity pages and we'll have a
> conversation about what might be some possible next steps.
>
> Find the six capacity pages on Meta, here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development
>
> Looking forward to fruitful engagement,
>
>Asaf Bartov
>Sati Houston
>Community Engagement department
> --
> Asaf Bartov
> Wikimedia Foundation 
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-05 Thread Craig Franklin
Firstly, I'm delighted to see that a mutually acceptable compromise has
been reached here.  Well done everyone in coming together with the best
interests of the entire movement in mind.

If I can make a suggestion though, I'd suggest that the fundraising team
and the community, particularly the WLM crew, get together *now* and try to
work out how those campaigns are going to be coordinated so that this
doesn't happen again next year, while there are still good vibes in the
air.  Something we're all really bad at as a movement, is procrastinating
on these sort of issues, but if there is a bit of forward planning there's
no reason that everyone can't have their cake and eat it too.

Cheers,
Craig

On 31 August 2015 at 21:02, Megan Hernandez 
wrote:

> Below is a message that Andrea Zanni, President of Wikimedia Italia, and I
> have written together.
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feedback. We would like to fill you
> in on the background work and conversations between Wikimedia Italia and
> WMF.
>
> There was a scheduling problem to solve between two very important
> campaigns for the movement. Wiki Loves Monuments is a major contribution
> campaign and annual effort.  Fundraising campaigns fund the movement and
> the team has a difficult goal this year with quarterly targets to meet.
> Direct communication was needed to work through the issue.
>
> WMIT and WMF have been talking through the situation and many possible
> solutions over the past few weeks. Through very honest and respectful phone
> and email conversations, we were able to reach a mutual understanding of
> the issue and decided to move the fundraising campaign after Wiki Loves
> Monuments. We reached this agreement over the weekend (actually several
> hours before the RfC was posted online), but an immediate reply was not
> sent because we wanted to coordinate an update to the list. Weekend
> coordination is tricky, which is why this email is being sent on Monday.
>
> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
> least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
> will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in September.
> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will need
> to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
> September target.
>
> Wikimedia Italia and the WMF fundraising team have collaborated in the past
> on several projects (chapter banner and email campaigns as well as
> fundraising campaigns). We are currently working together on ways to get
> more contributors to WLM in Italy this year and on the upcoming fundraiser.
> We’ll work on communication and will share mutual expertise. We look
> forward to continuing to grow the relationship and working more closely
> going forward.
>
> It’s clear we need a better process to coordinate campaigns. We are a vast
> and complex movement, so communication is key. Together with the Community
> Engagement team, we are thinking of ways to improve and we appreciate your
> effort toward this improvement. Reasonable and respectful communication is
> how we were able to reach a solution, we need to build from this going
> forward.
>
> Thank you to everyone who provided constructive ideas to help solve the
> problem. Best of luck to all the WLM campaigns that launch tomorrow! Thank
> you for all your work on WLM, we’re all looking forward to seeing the new
> contributions this year.
>
>
> Megan Hernandez and Andrea Zanni
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that this happens just after the RFC is started. Maybe no
> > relevance...
> > Cheers,
> > P
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Zanni
> > Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> > Cc: Wikimedia Chapters general discussions
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
> > Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > Hello everybody.
> > I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to
> run
> > the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
> >
> > In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board
> worked
> > hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> > continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> > I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
> >
> > I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
> > will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
> > welcomed with the respect it deserves.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki <
> > steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Tha

[Wikimedia-l] LsJbot and geonames

2015-09-05 Thread Anders Wennersten
Geonames [1] is a database which holds around 9 M entries of 
geographical related items from all over the world.


Lsjbot is now generating articles from a subset of it, after several 
months of extensive research on its quality, Wikidata relations and 
notability issues. While the quality in some regions is substandard (and 
these will not be generated) it was seen as very good in most areas.  In 
the discussion  I was intrigued to learn that identical Arabic names 
should be transcribed differently depending on its geographic location. 
And I was fascinated of the question of notability of wells in the 
Bahrain desert (which in the end was excluded, mostly because we knew 
too little of that reality)


In this run Lsjbot has extended its functionality even further then when 
it generated articles for species. It looks for relevant geographical 
items close to the actual one: a lake close by, a mountain and where is 
the nearest major town etc.


Macedonia  can be taken as one example. Lsjbot generated over 1 
articles (and 5000 disambiguous pages) making it a magnitude more than 
what exist in enwp. Also for a well defined type like villages, almost 
50% as many has been generated than existing in enwp. One example [2] 
where you can see what has been generated (and note the reuse of a 
relevant figure existing in frwp). Please compare the corresponding 
articles on other languages in this case, many having less information 
than the bot generated one.


The generation is still in early stage [3) but has already got the 
article count for svwp to pass 2 M  today.  But it will take many months 
more before completed and perhaps more M marks will be passed before it 
is through. If you want to give feedback you are welcome to enter it at [4]


Anders
(with all credits for the Lsjbot to be given to Sverker, its owner, I am 
just one of the many supporters of him and his bot on svwp)


[1]
http://www.geonames.org/about.html

[2]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaki_%28ort_i_Makedonien%29

[3]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Robotskapade_geografiartiklar

[4]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Lsjbot/Projekt_alla_platser




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-05 Thread Danny Horn
We are planning to put Flow into public dumps this month, and work with all
the remaining communities still using LQT about converting to Flow. I
wanted to let this announcement settle for a minute before we talk to them.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM, John Mark Vandenberg 
wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM, MZMcBride  wrote:
> > Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> >>Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You
> can
> >>write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working
> for
> >>many months already. This is my definition of "covering basic talk
> pages".
> >>
> >>Even more importantly is that you can write a title and an OP and get
> >>people to reply ON THEIR PHONES. This is nearly impossible on the classic
> >>talk pages; on them you are lucky to even manage to read the existing
> >>discussions, and typing a reply requires extra finger-acrobatics. With
> >>Flow it's as easy as on Twitter. I do almost no coding for Mobile
> >>Frontend and apps, but I'm a kind of a volunteer mobile technologies
> >>ambassador in my home wiki, and good mobile support for talk pages is the
> >>#1 request that I hear from veteran editors with regards to using
> >>Wikipedia on their phones. This is another thing that Flow has been doing
> >>for many months already.
> >
> > I think most of the points you raise here are true of LiquidThreads or
> > _any_ prototype of a discussion system. Yes, you get a reply button
> > instead of needing ":: " wikitext. That's great, I agree, but after
> > having watched LiquidThreads rot and then seeing a lot of time, money,
> and
> > effort put into Flow, I'm pretty dissatisfied with the deliverable being
> > essentially a very intricate proof-of-concept. I think not getting Flow
> > fully deployed to Wikimedia wikis is objectively a large failure to
> > deliver. Consequently, it seems most prudent to be asking what went wrong
> > and how it will be better next time. The underlying reality is that we
> > still need a better on-wiki discussion system and it now looks like
> > neither LiquidThreads nor Flow are going to be it.
>
> In addition to this, we still have LiquidThreads (LQT) in production.
>
> I can understand Flow being put into maintenance mode, especially if
> temporarily while energy is focused elsewhere, but I believe the main
> Flow project should at least include:
>
> 1. dumping Flow content into the public dumps (
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398 ), and
>
> 2. decommissioning LiquidThreads on all Wikimedia sites by converting
> them to Flow
>
> According to Wikiapiary [1] , there are still seven 'active' WMF sites
> using LiquidThreads.
>
> I see LQT is still actively being used on five of them:
>
>
> https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=30&from=&namespace=90
>
>
> https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=30&from=&namespace=90
>
>
> https://pt.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:Mudan%C3%A7as_recentes&days=30&from=&namespace=90
>
>
> https://fi.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toiminnot:Tuoreet_muutokset&days=30&from=&namespace=90
> (conversion to Flow requested: T104089)
>
>
> https://se.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Senaste_%C3%A4ndringar&days=30&from=&namespace=90
> (conversion to Flow requested: T106302)
>
> But no Thread: activity on two others:
> http://hu.wikipedia.org/
> (They are trialling Flow? T107301)
> http://sv.wikisource.org/
>
> It is also installed on two locked projects: Wikimania 2010, and
> Wikimedia Strategic Planning.  Can't they be converted to Flow ?
>
> And it is still installed on https://www.mediawiki.org/ .  Is that
> still necessary?
>
> Is the current plan simply "let users request LiquidThreads pages be
> converted to Flow"?
>
> Which of the above sites are only using it in user talk?
>
> Have any of the above sites affirmatively decided they do not want to
> switch to Flow (yet)?
> If so, what are their reasons?
>
> 1.
> https://wikiapiary.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=20&q=[[Has+extension%3A%3AExtension%3ALiquid+Threads]]&p=format%3Dtable%2Flink%3Dall%2Fheaders%3Dshow%2Fmainlabel%3D-2D%2Fintro%3D-3Cb-3EThis-20extension-20is-20in-20use-20on-20the-20following-20websites%3A-3C-2Fb-3E-3Cbr-20-2F-3E%2Fsearchlabel%3D%E2%80%A6-20further-20results%2Fdefault%3DThis-20extension-20is-20no-20longer-20in-20use-20on-20any-20website.%2Fclass%3Dsortable-20wikitable-20smwtable&po=%3FHas+website%3DWiki+name%0A%3FHas+MediaWiki+version%3DMediaWiki+version%0A%3FHas+extension+version%3DExtension+version%0A&sort=Has+MediaWiki+version&order=descending%2Crand&eq=no
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimania 15 videos

2015-09-05 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Thanks for this Ivan!

The last time I enjoyed Wikimania talks were Wikimania Argentina (2009),
because there were some in Spanish too. I can write in English but
listening is a bit hard for me.

Subtitles are necessary to make the talks accessible to everybody, not only
non-English speakers but also deaf people.

If I can help transcribing or whatever, just contact me.

2015-09-05 5:46 GMT+02:00 Ivan Martínez :

> Sorry for the crosspost.
> Thanks,
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ivan Martínez 
> Date: 2015-09-04 22:38 GMT-05:00
> Subject: Wikimania 15 videos
> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
> wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Hi everyone, the featured speakers videos are up now, both on Commons and
> Youtube. We have two versions of each speaker, the original audio and the
> simultaneous translation English or Spanish according to the case.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_presentation_videos
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxdLXCagb6RAiK9w2y0DsDUzWF7dgj7j-
>
> Our volunteers will work in the next months in the closed caption of each
> talk. Will be very nice if we can have many translations many languages as
> possible.
>
> We have pending only the publication of the Wikimania 15 documentary, that
> will be premiered soon at National Film Archive of Mexico (Cineteca
> Nacional) and TV UNAM, public digital TV with national reach, and then
> shared by all our channels. Stay tuned!
>
> Thanks again for the great moments we lived in Mexico City.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
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>
>
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