Re: [Wikimedia-l] Google returning outdated text snippet

[Pax Ahimsa Gethen]

I did already contact Google about this issue, but I will try again. As 
I mentioned though, their cache of the Gender page is up to date (August 
1); it's just the text snippet preview (from May 26) that is wrong. And 
this problem was previously corrected (after I first contacted Google) 
before resurfacing, so this strikes me as a strange issue.


- Pax


On 8/7/16 5:34 PM, Risker wrote:

Actually, the best way to get this addressed is to email Google. Best to
use the search result that you have concerns about, then go to the bottom
of the page, click "Send Feedback" and complete the form.

This is not, at its root, a Wikipedia problem.  Google has bots scanning
our articles on a near-constant basis, as well, but they don't scan
everything in real time.  I have seen very good results using this process,
often within the hour.

Risker

On 7 August 2016 at 20:24, Pine W  wrote:


Hi Pax,

I believe that WMF Discovery is the team that is best suited to address
matters like this, so I am forwarding your email to the Discovery mailing
list.

Pine

On Aug 7, 2016 16:46, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen" 
wrote:


In a recent thread about improving search, I posted a comment about a
possible hazard of relying on Google to search Wikipedia.[1] I explained
that Google had been displaying a text snippet from an outdated,

disruptive

revision of the Gender page.[2] Well, that error has now resurfaced, and

at

an editor's suggestion I posted to the Village Pump about it.[3] The
initial response at VP was essentially "not our problem; go away" which

was

not exactly encouraging.

I'm sorry but if a major search engine is erroneously telling people that
Wikipedia is stating " There are only 2 genders. Male and Female", that

is

a cause of concern for me, and I want to know if or how this problem can

be

fixed. As I explained on the talk page and in the Village Pump, Google's
cache of the actual page is up to date; it's just the snippet that is

wrong.

- Pax

[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-July/
084890.html

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gender=722247975

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(techni
cal)#Google_returning_outdated_text_snippet_for_Gender_page



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Google returning outdated text snippet

[Risker]

Actually, the best way to get this addressed is to email Google. Best to
use the search result that you have concerns about, then go to the bottom
of the page, click "Send Feedback" and complete the form.

This is not, at its root, a Wikipedia problem.  Google has bots scanning
our articles on a near-constant basis, as well, but they don't scan
everything in real time.  I have seen very good results using this process,
often within the hour.

Risker

On 7 August 2016 at 20:24, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Pax,
>
> I believe that WMF Discovery is the team that is best suited to address
> matters like this, so I am forwarding your email to the Discovery mailing
> list.
>
> Pine
>
> On Aug 7, 2016 16:46, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen" 
> wrote:
>
> > In a recent thread about improving search, I posted a comment about a
> > possible hazard of relying on Google to search Wikipedia.[1] I explained
> > that Google had been displaying a text snippet from an outdated,
> disruptive
> > revision of the Gender page.[2] Well, that error has now resurfaced, and
> at
> > an editor's suggestion I posted to the Village Pump about it.[3] The
> > initial response at VP was essentially "not our problem; go away" which
> was
> > not exactly encouraging.
> >
> > I'm sorry but if a major search engine is erroneously telling people that
> > Wikipedia is stating " There are only 2 genders. Male and Female", that
> is
> > a cause of concern for me, and I want to know if or how this problem can
> be
> > fixed. As I explained on the talk page and in the Village Pump, Google's
> > cache of the actual page is up to date; it's just the snippet that is
> wrong.
> >
> > - Pax
> >
> > [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-July/
> > 084890.html
> >
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gender=722247975
> >
> > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(techni
> > cal)#Google_returning_outdated_text_snippet_for_Gender_page
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Google returning outdated text snippet

[Pine W]

Hi Pax,

I believe that WMF Discovery is the team that is best suited to address
matters like this, so I am forwarding your email to the Discovery mailing
list.

Pine

On Aug 7, 2016 16:46, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen" 
wrote:

> In a recent thread about improving search, I posted a comment about a
> possible hazard of relying on Google to search Wikipedia.[1] I explained
> that Google had been displaying a text snippet from an outdated, disruptive
> revision of the Gender page.[2] Well, that error has now resurfaced, and at
> an editor's suggestion I posted to the Village Pump about it.[3] The
> initial response at VP was essentially "not our problem; go away" which was
> not exactly encouraging.
>
> I'm sorry but if a major search engine is erroneously telling people that
> Wikipedia is stating " There are only 2 genders. Male and Female", that is
> a cause of concern for me, and I want to know if or how this problem can be
> fixed. As I explained on the talk page and in the Village Pump, Google's
> cache of the actual page is up to date; it's just the snippet that is wrong.
>
> - Pax
>
> [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-July/
> 084890.html
>
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gender=722247975
>
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(techni
> cal)#Google_returning_outdated_text_snippet_for_Gender_page
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Google returning outdated text snippet

[Pax Ahimsa Gethen]

In a recent thread about improving search, I posted a comment about a 
possible hazard of relying on Google to search Wikipedia.[1] I explained 
that Google had been displaying a text snippet from an outdated, 
disruptive revision of the Gender page.[2] Well, that error has now 
resurfaced, and at an editor's suggestion I posted to the Village Pump 
about it.[3] The initial response at VP was essentially "not our 
problem; go away" which was not exactly encouraging.


I'm sorry but if a major search engine is erroneously telling people 
that Wikipedia is stating " There are only 2 genders. Male and Female", 
that is a cause of concern for me, and I want to know if or how this 
problem can be fixed. As I explained on the talk page and in the Village 
Pump, Google's cache of the actual page is up to date; it's just the 
snippet that is wrong.


- Pax

[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-July/084890.html

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gender=722247975

[3] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Google_returning_outdated_text_snippet_for_Gender_page


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel received a grant to work with Arabic speaking gifted students

[Pine W]

Thanks for the news, Ido. I have heard many good comments about the
Wikipedia Education Program in Israel, and it's nice to see that the
program is expanding. It's also good to see the program build bridges
across languages.

Pine

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 11:34 PM, ido ivri  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are pleased to announce that Wikimedia Israel received a grant from an
> Israeli Charitable Foundation to replicate its successful program of
> working with gifted students on the Hebrew Wikipedia, and expand it to
> gifted Arabic speaking students in Israel to edit Arabic Wikipedia.
>
> We're excited by the opportunity to support work in more languages spoken
> in Israel, as well as expand our reach to new audiences.
>
> In preparation for this grant, Wikimedia Israel team has performed some
> exploratory work in an Arabic speaking school in Israel for the past year,
> and translated the instructional materials to Arabic. This great work has
> been carried on by Shay Katz and Dror Kamir (respectively), and we want to
> take this opportunity to thank them. Last but not least, we want to thank
> Michal who made it through some pretty stressful deadlines for writing and
> submitting the request.
>
> On behalf of the WMIL Board,
>
> Ido Ivri,
> Board Secretary
> Wikimedia Israel
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kevin Gorman has passed away

[Kalliope Tsouroupidou]

Of little interest perhaps, but Kevin's profile appeared on my LinkedIn's
"People you may know" page (as did another recently deceased ex-WMF
staffer's). I reached out to LinkedIn directly, filling in their deceased
members form so that remove or mark the profile as deceased (different
networks handle this type of request differently). From past experience,
often the family of the deceased is too overwhelmed to deal with their
loved one's online profiles and are grateful if others 'take care' of that.

Something to consider if you come across other online profiles of Kevin.

K.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Rachel Farrand 
wrote:

> You can add info here if you knew him and some of his Wikimedia work and
> accomplishments:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2016-08-04/Obituary
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Kaldari 
> wrote:
>
> > I was friends with Kevin and talked to him often over email. He was a
> > tireless advocate of addressing the gender gap on Wikipedia and making
> the
> > projects less toxic. Besides his significant volunteer work on-wiki, he
> was
> > also a moderator of the gendergap mailing list (a difficult and thankless
> > job). He was always an advocate for those whose voices were not being
> heard
> > or those who were afraid to speak up due to fear of being attacked. He
> ran
> > for English Wikipedia ArbCom last year, and addressed some of these
> issues
> > in his candidate statement: "Our encyclopedia aims to encompass the sum
> of
> > all human knowledge - a lofty goal that we cannot possibly accomplish
> > unless we take steps to ensure that, to borrow from a recent public
> > comment, we’re sending no demographic into a cultural buzzsaw."
> >
> > Kevin was one of the countless unsung heroes of our movement, and his
> > passing is a tragic loss. I hope we can pay tribute to his memory by
> > continuing to work towards addressing the gender gap and eliminating
> > harassment on our projects.
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel received a grant to work with Arabic speaking gifted students

[ido ivri]

Hi all,

We are pleased to announce that Wikimedia Israel received a grant from an
Israeli Charitable Foundation to replicate its successful program of
working with gifted students on the Hebrew Wikipedia, and expand it to
gifted Arabic speaking students in Israel to edit Arabic Wikipedia.

We're excited by the opportunity to support work in more languages spoken
in Israel, as well as expand our reach to new audiences.

In preparation for this grant, Wikimedia Israel team has performed some
exploratory work in an Arabic speaking school in Israel for the past year,
and translated the instructional materials to Arabic. This great work has
been carried on by Shay Katz and Dror Kamir (respectively), and we want to
take this opportunity to thank them. Last but not least, we want to thank
Michal who made it through some pretty stressful deadlines for writing and
submitting the request.

On behalf of the WMIL Board,

Ido Ivri,
Board Secretary
Wikimedia Israel
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