[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing an academic conference on Wikipedia translation

[Mark SHUTTLEWORTH]

Dear Željko, Takashi and Ziko

Thanks for your messages. As Takashi says, they are already available but
unfortunately a log-in is needed. However, some of the talks will be made
available more publicly a little later and I'll let you know when they go
live.

Best regards

Mark

On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 16:29, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello,
> I am sorry that I could not attend, but... the topic is super interesting,
> and if recordings are available  - I would appreciate that very much. :-)
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> Am Fr., 17. Dez. 2021 um 02:43 Uhr schrieb Takashi OTA <
> supertakot+foundatio...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Recordings are available but only for registrants and registration has
>> been closed as far as I search…
>>
>> https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf2021/
>> https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf/register/
>>
>> —Takot
>>
>> 2021年12月16日(木) 20:13 Željko Blaće :
>>
>>> Dear Mark and conference organizers - it totally slipped my mind that
>>> the conference started yesterday and lasts till tomorrow late.
>>> Would the recording of the conference be available in any shape and form?
>>>
>>> Best Z. Blace
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:32 PM Mark SHUTTLEWORTH 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Friends and Colleagues

 Many thanks for your messages and apologies for the slow response.

 I've discussed the situation with my colleagues and everyone agrees
 that we could certainly consider waiving the fee in the right
 circumstances, and we've updated the conference website (
 https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf2021/) to reflect this. I haven't yet
 made a rapid grant request but I'll certainly follow that up, and I'm also
 wondering if that suggestion that Anne made earlier was still possibly on
 the table? Unfortunately it would be difficult to reschedule the conference
 at this stage to allow an application via the Conference Grants round
 though.

 Anyone with an interest in translation on Wikipedia would be very
 welcome to submit a paper proposal. The Call for Papers assumes that paper
 proposals will be research-based but I think it would be really excellent
 to have contributions from practitioners as well, and if we have enough we
 could for example dedicate a session to them. I also think the opportunity
 that the conference could potentially give for stimulating exchanges
 between practitioners and researchers would be very exciting.

 Best regards

 Mark

 On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 21:59, Oby Ezeilo  wrote:

> Hello Mark. Wonderful idea. I am Oby Ezeilo of The Igbo Wikimedia User
> Group in Nigeria, Just want to ask, if we are to join online do we need to
> pay the same amount?
> Regards
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 2:21 PM Chen Almog 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> If you are willing to consider postponing the event just a bit, to
>> January, you can also apply for the upcoming Conference Grants round. The
>> deadline for submission will be in early September.
>>
>> I'm happy to help and answer any questions.
>>
>> Chen
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 16:16 Samuel Klein  wrote:
>>
>>> This looks lovely, thank you for organizing it Mark.
>>> You can submit a rapid grant request
>>>  for support
>>> for online participation.
>>>
>>> This seems like something of interest to developers of Translate
>>>  + Content
>>> Translation  +
>>> translatewiki ,
>>> the current WMF language & translation team
>>> , and the
>>> people working on Lexicographical data
>>>  in
>>> Wikidata :)  You might want to explicitly invite some of those networks.
>>>
>>> SJ
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 1:48 AM Mark SHUTTLEWORTH <
>>> marks...@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:
>>>
 Dear friends and colleagues

 Further to my message at the end of last month and the queries that
 one or two of you made, I'd like to notify you of the following:

 1. the conference will now be 100% online
 2. the deadline for submission of proposals has been extended to
 30th June 2021

 Full updated details and Call for Papers can be found on the
 conference website at https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf2021/.

 Best regards

 Mark Shuttleworth

 On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:13, Mark SHUTTLEWORTH <
 marks...@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:

> Dear friends and colleagues
>
> Please permit me to publicise an academic conference that we're
> 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Member management system

[Sam Wilson]

I think CiviCRM is a common one amongst affiliates. WMAU used it for a 
while, but we found that having separation between the financial system 
(xero.com, where the actual membership dues are payed and recorded) and 
the membership system was too annoying and the latter was never kept up 
to date. We retired it a few years ago.


I've often wondered about building something lightweight that works 
within MediaWiki, because that's where everyone already has an account, 
and it already has a 'current-member' user group. Would probably still 
have issues with the financials side of it (but then again, I'm not 
really convinced that having membership fees are really worth it, so 
that might make it simpler!).


—Sam

On 16/12/21 6:38 pm, Heather Knox via Wikimedia-l wrote:

Kia ora koutou (greetings to everyone),
The Aotearoa New Zealand User Group is working on creating an 
incorporated society and applying to become a chapter. We are looking 
for an open source member management system which would enable us to 
store member details, record membership payments, record membership 
history (e.g. periods of memberships, type of membership), export 
lists of names and contact details and create email lists or send 
emails to groups of members.
Is any affiliate using a member management system which they would 
recommend we investigate? Many thanks,

Heather (for the Aotearoa NZ User Group)

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Approval of Human Rights Policy

[Liam Wyatt]

To the question of who, how, whether, and for what, individuals should
receive direct financial support for their volunteer contributions - I
leave that to the discussions of movement Strategy and Charter.

To the specific question of if the eventual revenue raised via ‘Wikimedia
Enterprise’ commercial services should be directed towards that outcome:

We (the ‘Enterprise team), and also the WMF board in their statement on the
matter [1], have been quite clear in the design of the project that its
revenues will go into the same processes, and receive the same oversight
and decision-making as any other revenue - including however those
processes might change over time with movement strategy implementation.

It would be an unhelpful precedent to direct revenue from one specific
input, towards one specific purpose. By analogy: we don’t allocate “revenue
from X Wikipedia language banners in Y will pay for Z project”.

- Liam / Wittylama

P.S. just for clarity: the commercial service of ‘Wikimedia Enterprise’ is
the *service* (API access, customer service agents, SLA contract), and NOT
the content.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Statement_on_Wikimedia_Enterprise_revenue_principles

On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 18:28, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Hi Tito and all,
>
> Tito said, in part,
>
>
> 1) Okay, we have an "urgent" policy. What is the plan and procedure to
>> safeguard the human rights of someone? Example: If a Wikimedian's human
>> right is in danger for using Wikimedia's/OSM's disputed map[1], what's the
>> "exact" procedure?
>> I do understand that the implementation plan is to be made (around 13:48
>> of the video[2]) and I fully understand that it is going to be difficult on
>> a global scale. However the execution plan and procedure will be more
>> important.
>>
>
>
>> 4) (around 20:00 of the video) "Three people on the Wikimedia-l mailing
>> list asked ..." I am one of the three I don't think we/I asked about
>> royalty etc. What we speak about is about Wikimedians' lives in different
>> socio-economic backgrounds. This is connected with editor retention,
>> community health, (and human rights). I'll be very happy to discuss it
>> separately on my Meta-Wiki talk page[3] or elsewhere.
>>
>
>
> As for the first question, it is early days, but could you give some
> indication what you think you can do to safeguard someone's human rights in
> another country? You could open communication channels to human rights
> organisations, perhaps, and inform them of problematic cases. Is this the
> kind of action you have in mind? I must say I sympathise with what Geni
> says in his mail – surely the WMF is quite limited in what it can do.
> Geni's point about the WMF potentially being perceived as a hostile
> campaigner (or, I would add, even a US foreign policy instrument), thus
> increasing the risks of participation for individuals, is worth pondering
> as well.
>
> As Tito says, there was also a question about the feasibility of
> royalties. This mentioned Tito's and others' posts here, though I think the
> questioner was only using those questions about healthcare and minimum pay
> as a springboard for their own question. They wondered whether there was
> any way to get royalties or licence fees from re-users who use more than a
> certain volume of Wikimedia data, and to provide support to volunteers in
> this manner. The answer was that it didn't seem likely. But it occurred to
> me that the for-profit Wikimedia Enterprise is doing a similar thing,
> charging large re-users for API services. So couldn't some of the profits
> from that business be used in the way the questioner suggested? The money
> would come from much the same companies.
>
> Andreas
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Approval of Human Rights Policy

[Andreas Kolbe]

Hi Tito and all,

Tito said, in part,


1) Okay, we have an "urgent" policy. What is the plan and procedure to
> safeguard the human rights of someone? Example: If a Wikimedian's human
> right is in danger for using Wikimedia's/OSM's disputed map[1], what's the
> "exact" procedure?
> I do understand that the implementation plan is to be made (around 13:48
> of the video[2]) and I fully understand that it is going to be difficult on
> a global scale. However the execution plan and procedure will be more
> important.
>


> 4) (around 20:00 of the video) "Three people on the Wikimedia-l mailing
> list asked ..." I am one of the three I don't think we/I asked about
> royalty etc. What we speak about is about Wikimedians' lives in different
> socio-economic backgrounds. This is connected with editor retention,
> community health, (and human rights). I'll be very happy to discuss it
> separately on my Meta-Wiki talk page[3] or elsewhere.
>


As for the first question, it is early days, but could you give some
indication what you think you can do to safeguard someone's human rights in
another country? You could open communication channels to human rights
organisations, perhaps, and inform them of problematic cases. Is this the
kind of action you have in mind? I must say I sympathise with what Geni
says in his mail – surely the WMF is quite limited in what it can do.
Geni's point about the WMF potentially being perceived as a hostile
campaigner (or, I would add, even a US foreign policy instrument), thus
increasing the risks of participation for individuals, is worth pondering
as well.

As Tito says, there was also a question about the feasibility of royalties.
This mentioned Tito's and others' posts here, though I think the questioner
was only using those questions about healthcare and minimum pay as a
springboard for their own question. They wondered whether there was any way
to get royalties or licence fees from re-users who use more than a certain
volume of Wikimedia data, and to provide support to volunteers in this
manner. The answer was that it didn't seem likely. But it occurred to me
that the for-profit Wikimedia Enterprise is doing a similar thing, charging
large re-users for API services. So couldn't some of the profits from that
business be used in the way the questioner suggested? The money would come
from much the same companies.

Andreas
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[Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee (AffCom) Member and Advisor Elections Announcement - January 2022

[Jeffrey Keefer]

Hi Everyone -

The Affiliations Committee (AffCom) [1] – the committee responsible for guiding 
volunteers in establishing and sustaining Wikimedia chapters, thematic 
organizations, and user groups – is seeking new members and advisors! We invite 
you to consider applying.

AffCom Members
The committee consists of five to fifteen members, selected at least once every 
year, to serve two-year terms. Requirements and responsibilities for serving on 
AffCom may be found here [2]. 

The deadline to post your application on the nomination page [3] is 31 January 
2022. 

AffCom Advisors
We are looking for advisors who are excited by the challenge of empowering 
volunteers to get organized and form communities that further our mission 
around the world. In exchange, committee advisors selected will gain the 
experience of supporting their world-wide colleagues to develop their 
communities as well as personal development in guiding organizational 
development, facilitating affiliate partnerships, and professional 
communications. Requirements and responsibilities for serving as AffCom 
advisors may be found here [4]. 

The deadline to post your submission on the nomination page [5] is 31 January 
2022.   






If you have any questions, please contact me and/or the committee as a whole by 
sending email to affcom[at]wikimedia[dot]org. We are happy to answer questions 
about our work if this helps people decide to apply. Please distribute this 
announcement  among your networks. Good luck to all the candidates!

On behalf of the committee,
-
Jeffrey Keefer
Secretary, Affiliations Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee 
 
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Translations/Call_for_candidates_-_January_2022
 

 
[3] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/January_2022 

 
[4] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Translations/Call_for_advisors_2022
 

 
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Wikimedia Affiliates Environmental Sustainability Covenant

[rupert THURNER]

cool think lukas,

the internatioinal energy agency publishes energy consumptoin erports from
time to time, the last one i am aware of is here:
https://www.iea.org/reports/data-centres-and-data-transmission-networks .
it says that data centers consume 1% of the global electricity. data
transfer consume 1.4 % of the global electric energy. and, interesting, it
says that information and communications tech firms account for 50% of the
renewable energy purchase globally. i read that google used 12.4 tera watt
hours, wikipedia servers consume 2 giga watt hours per year:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers. as the data needs to be
transported to clients reading it a rough guess would be another 3 giga
watt hours per year is used by wikipedia readers. does wikimedia
deutschland or the foundation really buy certificates to compensate for
this 5 GWH electricity consumption?

rupert


On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 7:28 PM Lukas Mezger 
wrote:

> Dear Wikimedia friends,
>
> I am writing to introduce the Wikimedia Affiliates Environmental
> Sustainability Covenant, a cross-affiliate initiative aimed at reducing the
> environmental impact of the Wikimedia Movement.[1]
>
> This initiative was born out of discussions about how to take action
> against the climate crisis between Wikimédia France and Wikimedia
> Deutschland, and is based on Movement Strategy Recommendation #1.8 (*"[W]e
> will also align our practices to support the environmental sustainability
> of our planet.”*).[2]
>
> You can read the full text of the agreement on Meta.[1] In short,
> signatory Wikimedia affiliates commit to:
> – reducing their carbon footprint
> – improving sustainability topics on the Wikimedia projects
> – supporting affiliates from regions most affected by the climate crisis
> – sharing stories and encouraging others
>
> Eight Wikimedia affiliates have already signed the agreement,[3] others
> are currently discussing it internally, and we are looking for more
> Wikimedia affiliates to join as well.
>
> Over the past weeks, we (Bodhisattwa Mandal, Naphsica Papanicolaou, Nanour
> Garabedian, and I), have presented the initiative at a number of virtual
> Wikimedia gatherings and you can watch video recordings of our talks in
> English, French, German, and Arabic.[4] You can also find a public
> announcement on the Wikimédia France blog.[5]
>
> Again, we are looking forward to hearing from more affiliates interested
> in joining this effort, and we are ready to answer any questions that you
> may have.
> Kind regards, and happy holidays to everyone celebrating,
>
> Lukas (User:Gnom)
>
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Affiliates_Environmental_Sustainability_Covenant
>
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Increase_the_Sustainability_of_Our_Movement
>
> [3] Wikimedians for Sustainable Development, West Bengal Wikimedians User
> Group, Wikimedia Deutschland, Wikimedia France, Wikimedia South Africa,
> Wikimedia Italia, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedians of Tamazight User Group
>
> [4]
> * Wikimania 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzYSKPK6UxQ
> * WikiIndaba 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXIVCUNoGu4
> * WikiArabia 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENERdAmdAo
> * CEE meeting 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oAIMDlc13M
> * WikiConference North America:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbJ7IO9cJYg (at 3:33:10)
> * WikiConvention francophone 2021:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUD8MVPsyU (at 3:53:00)
> * German-language WikiCon 2021:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2021-10-01_Klimaschutz_in_der_Community_(WikiCon_2021).webm
>
> [5]
> https://www.wikimedia.fr/initiative-durabilite-notre-engagement-contre-le-rechauffement-climatique/
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Translating Wikipedia articles

[Ziko van Dijk]

Thanks, Vermont, for the explanation! It is indeed good to notice that
„good article“ is a specific term in English Wikipedia, but that other wiki
communities define it differently. E.g., German WP calls these articles
„articles worth to read“ (lesenswerte Artikel).
For the Klexikon, we consider all of our articles to be „good articles“
meaning that they are easy to read, well structured and well composed. (If
they aren‘t, they should be still in the draft name space.)
Kind regards,
Ziko

Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l  schrieb am
Fr. 17. Dez. 2021 um 16:31:

> Hi Ziko,
>
> Content on the Simple English Wikipedia is indeed very uneven. Though most
> of the project’s articles are stubs with not many issues, there are a lot
> of mid-size articles with sourcing and/or accuracy problems.
>
> And given the nature of Simple English, our good articles are not really
> written in the same way that a good article in another language would
> necessarily be written, meaning that machine translation would likely
> require a lot more copyediting than usual to bring it to an acceptable
> level. For specifics, see:
>
> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages#Simple_sentence_structure
>
> Best regards,
> Vermont
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 03:55 Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
>
>> Hello James,
>> Interesting, what extra tools you have there.
>> Andreas, in theory Simple English Wikipedia would be great as an
>> international platform for the dissemination of articles. But in
>> reality I have the impression that the content of S.E.WP is very
>> uneven, the quality is very diverse.
>> Galder, nice to hear of these initiatives and what is all possible in
>> a joint action.
>> Kind regards
>> Ziko
>>
>> Am Do., 16. Dez. 2021 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb James Heilman <
>> jmh...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > Hey Ziko
>> >
>> > We have moved our medical translation efforts, such that MDWiki is our
>> starting point.
>> >
>> > https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Translation_task_force
>> >
>> > 1) We have also encountered a reference template issue with CTX but
>> have built a work around. Our issue appears to relate to 
>> and the same reference being used multiple times. What we do is we simply
>> expand all the metadata for each instance of the reference before feeding
>> the text into CTX. And then we have a bot that shortens all the instances
>> of a reference back to one.
>> >
>> > 2) One of the benefits of using MDWiki is it allows us to keep
>> references in the lead and use language that is easier to understand, but
>> not be forced to use language as easy as Simple English. It has also
>> allowed us to automatically generate a leaderboard to track progress and
>> impact of our translation efforts. Additionally we only encourage people to
>> translate the leads as that is only that has been medically checked for
>> accuracy.
>> https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/leaderboard.php
>> >
>> > Best
>> > James
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:34 AM Andreas Kolbe 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Ziko. Does anyone use Simple English Wikipedia as a basis for
>> their translations?
>> >>
>> >> I reckon DeepL – which is by far the best machine translation program
>> around, in the languages it covers – might do an even better job with those
>> (provided the Simple English article is itself of good quality, and worth
>> translating).
>> >>
>> >> Andreas
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