Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems (second attempt)
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do you agree that an annotated summary of what has gone well and what > hasn't, in the case of discussion technology like Liquid Threads and Flow, > might help us to have generative conversations on this topic? Not in the slightest. Having a conversation about anything this divisive is completely pointless and draining; no one listens to anyone else and everyone blames everyone else for not listening - especially because everyone claims "I'm not being heard" (even if they are, and are just disagreed with.) I could write up a whole big thing about this to try to create clarity but it doesn't matter; the only responses will be claims that the WMF (and myself in particular) are operating only in bad faith or "being rude" or we'll have some chuckleheads (who never try to help, claim to be expert engineers, but never seem to be able to back up those claims) talk shit about the skill sets in engineering and derail the conversation. So no. I don't believe this will be useful. --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems (second attempt)
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here, Brandon, I think you're > implying that there is fundamental resistance to change. Let me disabuse you of a notion: I am not _implying_ this. I am _directly stating it._ --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems
Because Talk pages suck as a medium for conversation and all attempts to fix this have been shot down with venom. > On Feb 21, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Thyge <ltl.pri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I really wonder why wikimedia discussions have migrated to FB. Are we > applying for a grant? --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT
Danny, don't kid yourself! The folks at Wikipediocracy know everything about everything that's happened at the Foundation and about everything that will EVER happen. They've never been wrong, ever! I don't understand why we're still talking about this! > On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Danny Horn <dh...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > You know, it's possible that the people who work for the Foundation might > understand the situation in a more nuanced way than you do. I know it > doesn't seem likely, but dare to dream. --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests
sted our Round 1 2015-2016 recommendations on >> the >>>> annual plan grants (APG) to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. >>> [3] >>>> The WMF Board representatives to the FDC (Denny Vrandecic, Jan-Bart de >>>> Vreede and Dariusz Jemielniak) will lead the Board in its review of >> these >>>> recommendations. The WMF Board will review the recommendations and then >>>> make their decision on them before 1 January 2016. >>>> >>>> This round, the eleven proposals came from ten chapters and one >> thematic >>>> organisation, totaling requests of approximately $3.8 million USD. Ten >>>> affiliates were returning to the APG program, and one was a new >>> applicant. >>>> This round, one organisation requested a restricted grant to support >> one >>>> particular program. All other grant requests were for general funding. >>>> >>>> Before we met for our face-to-face deliberations, the FDC carefully >>>> reviewed all proposals and supporting documentation (e.g., budgets, >>> plans, >>>> strategies) in detail, aided by staff assessments and analysis on >> impact, >>>> finances, and programs, as well as community comments on the proposals. >>> The >>>> committee had long and intense conversations about the proposals >>> submitted >>>> this round. By listening and carefully considering all available data, >>> the >>>> committee achieved consensus on all proposal deliberations. >>>> >>>> In addition to the above, the FDC has also included a recommendation >>> about >>>> the WMF itself to improve its own level of planning transparency and >>> budget >>>> detail. The WMF staff were not involved in the conception or writing of >>>> this additional recommendation. >>>> >>>> For your reference, there is a formal process to submit appeals about >>>> these recommendations or complaints about the FDC process. The >> processes >>>> for both are outlined below. >>>> >>>> Any applicant that wants to appeal the FDC’s recommendation about their >>>> proposal this round should submit it by 23:59 UTC on 8 December 2015 in >>>> accordance with the appeal process outlined in the FDC Framework. A >>> formal >>>> appeal to challenge the FDC’s recommendation should be in the form of a >>>> 500-or-fewer word summary. The appeal should be submitted on-wiki, [4] >>> and >>>> must be submitted by the Board Chair of a funding-seeking applicant. >>>> >>>> Complaints about the process can be filed by anyone with the >>> Ombudsperson, >>>> and can be made any time. The complaint should be submitted on wiki, as >>>> well. [5] The ombudsperson will publicly document the complaint, and >>>> investigate as needed. >>>> >>>> Please take a look at the upcoming calendar [6] to learn about other >>>> upcoming milestones in the APG program. >>>> >>>> Again, we offer our sincere thanks to the 11 organisations who >> submitted >>>> annual plan grant proposals to the FDC this round. >>>> >>>> On behalf of the FDC, >>>> >>>> Matanya Moses (FDC chair), User:Matanya >>>> >>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG >>>> [2] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1 >>>> [3] >>>> >>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2015-2016_round1 >>>> [4] >>>> >>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC >>>> [5] >>>> >>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Complaints_about_the_FDC_process >>>> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Calendar >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately >>>> directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia >>>> community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>>> ___ >>>> WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list >>>> wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l >>>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Departure
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Garfield Byrd <gb...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > My last day will be September 30. I look forward to staying in touch and > continuing to support our mission. Who is going to be the best dancer at any Wiki event from now on, then? --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing staff changes at the WMF
On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:55 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski twkozlow...@gmail.com wrote: I have just noticed that Damon Sicore's account has been removed from the Foundation wiki[1] and that his global account has just been locked on Meta[2]. Hi Tomasz, We adjust the rights of, or access to, staff accounts for many different reasons. For example, last weekend, we temporarily removed the rights from another staff member because they were in a country where having those permissions could have been sensitive. Sometimes we can’t disclose reasons prior to taking an action, or discuss them immediately. Although we aim for full transparency, occasionally there are factors in place that mean we can’t be as transparent as we'd like in the moment. Thanks for understanding. Not to be that guy or anything, but there are no special rights associated with foundationwiki that exist outside of that wiki, and yet his account was locked there (there aren't any sekrit bits of data there, either). Were his rights to officewiki removed as well? --- Brandon Harris :: bhar...@gaijin.com :: made of steel wool and whiskey ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia
Your responses here are coming across as very personally targeted and focused. Attempting to demonize Erik is a mistake and clouds the issue. Erik is acting as an officer, not as an individual. On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:40 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Erik has decided to take a might makes right approach and I'm concerned to see responsible and clueful users like yourself endorsing his actions here. What do Erik's unilateral actions on the English and German Wikipedias say about him? What does it say about the features he's forcing on users? Users should want new features. Erik shouldn't be coercing employees to try to ensure that new features are active everywhere. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Options for the German Wikipedia
I'm stating that the tone here implies that Erik is some weird overlord who orders everyone around and we cower in fear and do His Bidding. It's not true. If you want to be angry, be angry at the Foundation. Targeting Erik (or Jan) specifically is a mistake. On Aug 11, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Are you stating that Erik is not calling the shots here? If that's the case, could someone please clarify who is in charge and asked for the new right to be enabled? --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.
A slight correction: the revision was rev-deleted by a member of the community - a member of ArbCom, in fact - and not an employee of the Foundation. Snt frm m Phn On May 28, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Hi Fae, if you're referring to the discussion on this page, then I think I make it quite clear why I won't engage with WMF employees going forward: http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14t=4680start=150. To be sure, I'm not used to having anyone from Lila's team immediately emailing her through their official company addresses as soon as I ask a question in a public forum. In this case, the WMF has made it quite clear that the IRC channels aren't official and/or sponsored by the WMF, and I was asking about community affairs WRT to those channels. So my question about why a user was kicked from the channel didn't have anything to do with the WMF. I still don't understand why this employee felt it was necessary to bring Lila's attention to safety concerns through official WMF employee channels, although I'm sure he or she felt it was the right thing to do and I've given them the benefit of the doubt that it was. Of course, I can't form my own independent opinion, since a WMF employee revdeleted the rev in question in the ~10 minutes between when it was first posted and when I tried clicking on the link. In any case, it should be made clear that the WMF did not ask me to disengage with employees and has not yet asked me to stop posting to Wikipediocracy directly. So far, the organization itself has respected my individuality; I can only appeal to everyone in the WP community and all WMF employees to do the same in the future. I will be engaging with the broader WP community in whatever way I can, but I've made the hard decision to limit my engagement with WMF employees to public, logged forums from now on. ,Wil On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/05/2014, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... independent individual able to speak with his own voice and ask his own questions. He does not take direction from me. He will not work for the WMF or engage with the WMF employees. Thanks for making these distinctions. It is sad to see that your time and energy is being used so early on in your introduction to the Wikimedia community, in creating a political distance between yourself and the public actions of your life partner, due to his casual curiosity about Wikimedia projects. A curiosity that only manifested itself shortly after the public announcement of your employment by the Foundation board. I do not really understand the point being made about not engaging with WMF employees, any active volunteer on Wikimedia projects should and must be free to engage with WMF employees. The statement does not appear to match actions over the last 24 hours, with Wil freely making public comments about his dissatisfaction after conversations (emails?) with some WMF employees. Thanks again for clarifying your position during this difficult start to your engagement. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username
It is so that there is (theoretically) no question when we are operating as a staff versus operating as volunteers. On Apr 21, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, interesting. I wonder why its necessary for most or all WMF staffers to have accounts with an explicit WMF affiliation. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?
On Jan 15, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote: No. I think you should probably include a reason why you feel this way. A one-word answer doesn’t leave room for conversation. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)
On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: I can dream up horrors you can't even imagine. Consider a template consisting if two single quotes. For a demonstration, see http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Martijn_Hoekstra/Lovecraftian_horror2 Iä! Iä! Cthulhu Fhtagn! Seriously, awesome example. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
I love everything about this. On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:11 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! This morning I presented a submission (if you can call it that...) for a Wikivoyage logo... actually it flies and it's alive :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_2013/Submissions#Option_19_-_Snake_on_a_magic_towel It promised not to eat Rory nor Tux... yet :) If only someone could make it look at least as good as Brandon's profile pic! It would be amazing Feel free to change anything you want. It can't get any worse! Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
I just watched The Hitchhiker's Guide the Galaxy again this weekend and the towel reminded me of that. Really Hoopy Froods always know where the their towel is. Maybe the snake's name is Hoopy. On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:47 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: I knew it! Not even a day and the Wicked Towel Organization already complaining! --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)
On May 28, 2013, at 12:38 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: However, I have concerns about keeping Gayle in the Chief Talent and Culture Officer position. This type of conversation is really not helpful in any way. I don't know what you're expecting here. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Flow Portal(s)
Hello! As many of you know, the Wikimedia Foundation is now actively engaged in designing a next-generation discussion and workflow system called Flow, initially slated to replace user talk pages. Flow is an ambitious project (on par with the VisualEditor) and will touch nearly every aspect of the Wikimedia experience. We need ''your'' help and input. We have started a portal for information and discussion. You can find it on the English Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flow And on MediaWiki here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal (We'll be creating one on meta as well). At the Flow portal, you can read about what we're doing and why, as well as play around with an interactive prototype. We're desperately interested in your feedback and thoughts. There are things that we know, and things that we know that we don't know. But there are also things that we *don't* know that we don't know. And we want to reduce that lack of knowledge. We will also be conducting additional office hours for a variety of timezones - as many as we need to - and will also be open to having conversations via Google hangouts and/or Skype as need be. I am always around on irc (freenode, username jorm) and am willing to answer any questions you may have. -b. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Wikimedia Iconathon 2013
The Wikimedia Foundation is partnering with the Noun Project[1] to do a public service Iconathon. The goal of this event is to generate 30-40 icons for the public domain, with the intent of primarily using them on Wikimedia Foundation projects. The event is open to the public in an effort to bring talented designers and civic-minded individuals into the process. The event will be held on April 6, 2013 at the Wikimedia Foundation headquarters in San Francisco. All icons will be released under a public domain license. We want your help and input! For more information, including a list of the icons we're working on, please visit one of three places: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iconathon_2013 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Iconathon_2013 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/The_Noun_Project_Iconathon Please stop by one of these pages and share your thoughts and ideas. [1] http://www.thenounproject.com --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement
I haven't seen the NDA, and I don't know if it's actually required or not, but Bugzilla admins would have access to the security queue, which would be something that necessitates non-disclosure. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement
On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see why a Bugzilla administrator would be required to sign an NDA -- is there anything secret when it comes to bugs in a GPL-licenced software? Well. These security bugs are zero-day exploits and often contain patches or other juicy tidbits that will allow hostile individuals to attack sites running vulnerable versions of MediaWiki - including our own cluster - until the hole is closed. So yes. There's a need for an NDA there. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FreeBSD fate and the lesson for Wikimedia movement
On Dec 9, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: First of all, FreeBSD is a part of our broader movement and Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia chapters should find a way how to help them. I suppose that Mozilla Foundation could be also interested in this venture. Thus, I'd ask WMF and relevant chapters (those who have money) to organize themselves, contact Mozilla and see how to help FreeBSD community. I know that it's not a straight-forward action, but it's manageable. Why FreeBSD, and not NetBSD, OpenBSD, or Linux variants? --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long
I, for one, think this is totally awesome news. Snt frm my iPhne On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: After eight days of banners, we're free to take them down completely until Dec 26th, when we'll re-launch for a final 6-day push. That would mean a total of about 14 full days of banners for the 2012 fundraiser. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6
On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Risker wrote: I believe that FT2 is saying that we should seriously consider masking the *publicly viewable* IPv6 addresses. The only reason that we publish the IP addresses of any logged-out user is for attribution purposes, although some use it for other reasons (both positive and nefarious). Quite honestly, it doesn't matter what information is put in place in the publicly viewable logs, provided it's consistent. A couple of weeks ago, Brion Vibber and I started walking through a series of thoughts about eliminating publicly viewable IP addresses altogether, creating Proto Accounts. That is, to completely anonymize anonymous users (by calling them Anonymous XX) and at the same time creating system whereby Anonymous users might be encouraged to become registered users (and retain the edits they did anonymously). This would work by back-loading the account creation process: 1) User makes anonymous edit (as Anonymous 1234). Edit is logged as Anonymous 1234). 2) User is given call-to-action to convert to a registered account. 3) User fills out account form (username, password, email) (let's call them AwesomeSauce89) 4) Proto account gets renamed to AwesomeSauce89; the edits that were under Anonymous 1234 are now listed as being by AwesomeSauce89 I also spoke with Tim Starling about this in Berlin and he agreed that it was a good idea. However, this would be no small feat. A big part of the problems involved in this type of anonymizing involve how we deal with range blocks. Would this be something people might like to see happen? --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features
On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 AM, Jan Kučera wrote: Hi Oliver, the development progress definitely is very very slow. As a comparison, did you watch how the web front-end of Facebook changes within the last year? It was completely overhauled about three times... You may object Facebook is commercial and not comparable to Wikimedia, but this basically is not true at all sice BOTH sites compete for the same users (editors in case of Wikimedia). I know that comparison to any other commercial site is not welcome here, but that is a sad point people in the community still think commercial/noncomemrcial are two different worlds - they arent. There is only one user, who actually does not care a lot about a site being commercial/uncommercial... There is only one market, so Wikimedia has to behave much like the commercial sites (of course with little specifics to a non-profit like privacy etc.) You are comparing apples and oranges. Facebook: * Has *hundreds of millions* of dollars to devote to developer staff; * Does *not* have a community that demands to be consulted for every change; * Does *not* require that features work in ancient browsers; * Does *not* have to support skins and other technology built ten years ago; * Does *not* have to develop in order to support non-Facebook installs of their software; * Has *only* about 100 languages to develop for; * Pays *above* market rate From the point of this comparison, there is almost no development to MediaWiki... this is very sad, from a multi-million budget we only have few feauter engineers... :((( The software is a significant part of the whole site and community, if you have bad software you will never have great content... Features engineers should be the core of all Wikimedia staff, it is pitty to see the reality is exactly the other way round.. I'm not sure I agree with you that Features Engineers should be the core of the Foundation's staff but that's not really relevant. There are two major constraints that I think need to be understood. First, the multi-million budget we have is actually *nothing* by the standards of sites and tech systems that are 1/20th of our size and scale. Bear in mind that features engineering only receives a fraction of the 30 million (or whatever) each year. (For comparison, a friend of mine runs a moderate-sized e-commerce site. Her budget, per year, is $300 million dollars. They get probably 1/100th of our traffic and users. Probably less.) Second, and this is going to make people surly, but the we don't pay crap. Our salaries are the lowest of the low. It is close to impossible to attract experienced talent when you are offering 80% of market rate. So even if we decided to put ALL the budget into hiring software engineers, it wouldn't mean anything because we still couldn't hire those people. The example can be myself - I am missing chart features withint MediaWiki/Wikipedia, I filled a bug, nothing happens, I may leave the community for good... This is the same story over and over again. Foundation did not really care till now... This is the exact opposite of what you should be doing. If you feel strongly about this, you should lobby more and more people, and create a greater consensus that your chart software is important to everyone and should be elevated. Leaving the community isn't the solution: you miss 100% of the balls you don't take a swing at. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
