Re: [Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
I love data. There is one fact to consider; most of the items in Wikidata
have few statements [1]. Another associated thing is that once there is a
sufficiently representative part of the data, statistically the numbers
shown by Envil Le Hir will remain similar; there will be no significant
change. However, given that people like myself have been hard at work
adding data from Wikipedias, particularly the English Wikipedia, the bias
of these Wikipedias will have transfered to Wikidata.

There are two types of data; what interests the English Wikipedia editors
and the extend categories have been added to the "outlier" articles. The
consequence is that while I love the stats I expect that with more interest
for the subjects that are not common, we will find that the numbers for the
countries that get less attention will change significantly more than for
the subjects that are the bread and butter of the more popular Wikipedias.
Thanks,
  GerardM

[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse

On 8 March 2017 at 14:01, Florence Devouard  wrote:

> This is a tool done by Envel Le Hir using WikiData and published today.
>
> I actually inspired him the idea during a conference, when talking of my
> desire to get generic data about women professionnal occupation. My main
> argument is that I felt many of the added biographies about women were
> about actors, singers, or football players. Much less about politicians and
> business. But it was a "guess" and I wanted more hard data.
>
> And apparently... he got busy
>
> http://tools.dicare.org/gaps/gender.php
>
> Ok.
> Hard data (1950-2005 birth dates):
> * 80% of the biographies of porn actors are about women.
> * 98.3% of beauty pageant contestants are about women.
> * 24% of politicians are about women
> * 8.4% of computer scientists are about women.
>
> Or ... In Algeria... the more popular occupation of women by far is...
> Volley Ball !
> In France... actors.
> And in Guinea... well... hard to say... only 17 biographies about Guinean
> women anyway.
>
> Florence
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

[Olatunde Isaac]

Awesome! Thanks to  Envel Le Hir for developing this tool and Florence for 
sharing.

Best,

Isaac
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

This is a tool done by Envel Le Hir using WikiData and published today.

I actually inspired him the idea during a conference, when talking of my 
desire to get generic data about women professionnal occupation. My main 
argument is that I felt many of the added biographies about women were 
about actors, singers, or football players. Much less about politicians 
and business. But it was a "guess" and I wanted more hard data.

And apparently... he got busy

http://tools.dicare.org/gaps/gender.php

Ok.
Hard data (1950-2005 birth dates):
* 80% of the biographies of porn actors are about women.
* 98.3% of beauty pageant contestants are about women.
* 24% of politicians are about women
* 8.4% of computer scientists are about women.

Or ... In Algeria... the more popular occupation of women by far is... 
Volley Ball !
In France... actors.
And in Guinea... well... hard to say... only 17 biographies about 
Guinean women anyway.

Florence


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

[Pierre-Selim]

This is really interesting!

Thanks Florence for sharing!

2017-03-08 14:04 GMT+01:00 Sydney Poore :

> Fascinating.  Thanks for sharing.
>
> Sydney
>
> On Mar 8, 2017 8:01 AM, "Florence Devouard"  wrote:
>
> > This is a tool done by Envel Le Hir using WikiData and published today.
> >
> > I actually inspired him the idea during a conference, when talking of my
> > desire to get generic data about women professionnal occupation. My main
> > argument is that I felt many of the added biographies about women were
> > about actors, singers, or football players. Much less about politicians
> and
> > business. But it was a "guess" and I wanted more hard data.
> >
> > And apparently... he got busy
> >
> > http://tools.dicare.org/gaps/gender.php
> >
> > Ok.
> > Hard data (1950-2005 birth dates):
> > * 80% of the biographies of porn actors are about women.
> > * 98.3% of beauty pageant contestants are about women.
> > * 24% of politicians are about women
> > * 8.4% of computer scientists are about women.
> >
> > Or ... In Algeria... the more popular occupation of women by far is...
> > Volley Ball !
> > In France... actors.
> > And in Guinea... well... hard to say... only 17 biographies about Guinean
> > women anyway.
> >
> > Florence
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

[Sydney Poore]

Fascinating.  Thanks for sharing.

Sydney

On Mar 8, 2017 8:01 AM, "Florence Devouard"  wrote:

> This is a tool done by Envel Le Hir using WikiData and published today.
>
> I actually inspired him the idea during a conference, when talking of my
> desire to get generic data about women professionnal occupation. My main
> argument is that I felt many of the added biographies about women were
> about actors, singers, or football players. Much less about politicians and
> business. But it was a "guess" and I wanted more hard data.
>
> And apparently... he got busy
>
> http://tools.dicare.org/gaps/gender.php
>
> Ok.
> Hard data (1950-2005 birth dates):
> * 80% of the biographies of porn actors are about women.
> * 98.3% of beauty pageant contestants are about women.
> * 24% of politicians are about women
> * 8.4% of computer scientists are about women.
>
> Or ... In Algeria... the more popular occupation of women by far is...
> Volley Ball !
> In France... actors.
> And in Guinea... well... hard to say... only 17 biographies about Guinean
> women anyway.
>
> Florence
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Occupation of Women on WikiData

[Florence Devouard]

This is a tool done by Envel Le Hir using WikiData and published today.

I actually inspired him the idea during a conference, when talking of my 
desire to get generic data about women professionnal occupation. My main 
argument is that I felt many of the added biographies about women were 
about actors, singers, or football players. Much less about politicians 
and business. But it was a "guess" and I wanted more hard data.


And apparently... he got busy

http://tools.dicare.org/gaps/gender.php

Ok.
Hard data (1950-2005 birth dates):
* 80% of the biographies of porn actors are about women.
* 98.3% of beauty pageant contestants are about women.
* 24% of politicians are about women
* 8.4% of computer scientists are about women.

Or ... In Algeria... the more popular occupation of women by far is... 
Volley Ball !

In France... actors.
And in Guinea... well... hard to say... only 17 biographies about 
Guinean women anyway.


Florence


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