Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Wikimedia-SF Digest - how about berkeley historical society?

[Kevin Gorman]

+++! This is a fabulous idea.

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Karen Coyle  wrote:

> Great idea, thanks! They may not have wifi, but we might be able to work
> around that with some portable equipment.
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> On 7/30/13 11:03 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
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>> We stopped in there during a Wiki Loves  Monuments event (Wiki Takes
>> Berkeley) last year and they were totally stoked on the idea of doing
>> work with Wikipedia...so I'd surely check out the historical society.
>> -Sarah
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>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM, lsmith > > wrote:
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>> Re: Berkeley Wikipedians
>> How about the Berkeley Historical Society?
>> They are open and staffed by volunteer docents most Thursdays,
>> Fridays and Saturdays from 1 to 4 pm.Located at 1921 Center Street,
>>
>> about halfway between Milvia and Martin Luther King Jr Way, 1 1/2
>> blocks west of the Downtown Berkeley BART station. Several AC
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>> http://www.**berkeleyhistoricalsociety.org/
>> That way we could work with their collection!
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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Berkeley Wikipedians

[Kevin Gorman]

I definitely think in-person meetings make sense.  As someone who has
attended a lot of them, there's definitely a significant difference between
what types of people and what is accomplished during in-person meetups vs
online ones.  The Berkeley campus group was never really active (it was
more-or-less Matt Senate and Derrick Coetzee's idea, I just signed to hit
the minimum requirement.)

I could probably get a room on UCB's campus (although I won't be a student
for more than another couple weeks I'd probably be able to anyway,) but the
wifi is a pain to set up which makes it a less than ideal choice for a
meet-up location.  I suspect the library would be willing to host us given
how much libraries tend to like Wikipedia (potentially helped by the fact
that we are right next to the WMF.)  I would like to host an editathon in
the non-student cooperative in northern oakland I live in at some point,
but that will probably be a little bit away and not necessarily a frequent
event.

I'll definitely show up wherever there is a meetup though :)

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Wjhonson  wrote:

>  The issue I've always had with IRC is that if you are not a gear-head,
> you really have never used it.  The logs are *mostly* either not indexed at
> Google, or not even kept at all, so you cannot link to a discussion of what
> this one or that one said, and you cannot read those discussions.
>
> Yes I'm aware that *some* chats are being logged.
>
> If the community wants to *reach out* to all the non technologists, IRC is
> not the way to reach.
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Karen Coyle 
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> Sent: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 6:27 am
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Berkeley Wikipedians
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>  On 7/29/13 8:12 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote:
>
> >
> > I think IRC's not too scary if there's an appointed meeting time with
> > people that are guaranteed to be friendly and helpful and there's only
> > one channel to have to pay attention to. It's easy to make a webchat
> > link with the fields all pre-filled (e.g. with the channel name. or
> > even IRC nick)
>
> IRC is not scary for you, but it is a significant barrier to anyone who
> doesn't already know it. So, no, I personally will not be organizing any
> "meetings" on IRC. YMMV.
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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Wikimedia-SF Digest - how about berkeley historical society?

[Karen Coyle]

Great idea, thanks! They may not have wifi, but we might be able to work 
around that with some portable equipment.


kc

On 7/30/13 11:03 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote:

We stopped in there during a Wiki Loves  Monuments event (Wiki Takes
Berkeley) last year and they were totally stoked on the idea of doing
work with Wikipedia...so I'd surely check out the historical society.
-Sarah


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM, lsmith mailto:yelmo2...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Re: Berkeley Wikipedians
How about the Berkeley Historical Society?
They are open and staffed by volunteer docents most Thursdays,
Fridays and Saturdays from 1 to 4 pm.Located at 1921 Center Street,
about halfway between Milvia and Martin Luther King Jr Way, 1 1/2
blocks west of the Downtown Berkeley BART station. Several AC
Transit bus lines serve the downtown Berkeley area.
http://www.berkeleyhistoricalsociety.org/
That way we could work with their collection!
- Lani

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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Wikimedia-SF Digest - how about berkeley historical society?

[Sarah Stierch]

We stopped in there during a Wiki Loves  Monuments event (Wiki Takes
Berkeley) last year and they were totally stoked on the idea of doing work
with Wikipedia...so I'd surely check out the historical society.
-Sarah


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM, lsmith  wrote:

> Re: Berkeley Wikipedians
> How about the Berkeley Historical Society?
> They are open and staffed by volunteer docents most Thursdays, Fridays
> and Saturdays from 1 to 4 pm. Located at 1921 Center Street, about
> halfway between Milvia and Martin Luther King Jr Way, 1 1/2 blocks west of
> the Downtown Berkeley BART station. Several AC Transit bus lines serve the
> downtown Berkeley area.
> http://www.berkeleyhistoricalsociety.org/
> That way we could work with their collection!
> - Lani
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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Wikimedia-SF Digest - how about berkeley historical society?

[lsmith]

Re: Berkeley Wikipedians
How about the Berkeley Historical Society?
They are open and staffed by volunteer docents most Thursdays, Fridays and 
Saturdays from 1 to 4 pm.Located at 1921 Center Street, about halfway between 
Milvia and Martin Luther King Jr Way, 1 1/2 blocks west of the Downtown 
Berkeley BART station. Several AC Transit bus lines serve the downtown 
Berkeley area.
http://www.berkeleyhistoricalsociety.org/
That way we could work with their collection!
- Lani
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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Berkeley Wikipedians

[Wjhonson]

 The issue I've always had with IRC is that if you are not a gear-head, you 
really have never used it.  The logs are *mostly* either not indexed at Google, 
or not even kept at all, so you cannot link to a discussion of what this one or 
that one said, and you cannot read those discussions.

Yes I'm aware that *some* chats are being logged.

If the community wants to *reach out* to all the non technologists, IRC is not 
the way to reach.

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Berkeley Wikipedians


On 7/29/13 8:12 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote:

>
> I think IRC's not too scary if there's an appointed meeting time with
> people that are guaranteed to be friendly and helpful and there's only
> one channel to have to pay attention to. It's easy to make a webchat
> link with the fields all pre-filled (e.g. with the channel name. or
> even IRC nick)

IRC is not scary for you, but it is a significant barrier to anyone who 
doesn't already know it. So, no, I personally will not be organizing any 
"meetings" on IRC. YMMV.

kc



 
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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Berkeley Wikipedians

[Karen Coyle]

On 7/29/13 8:12 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote:



I think IRC's not too scary if there's an appointed meeting time with
people that are guaranteed to be friendly and helpful and there's only
one channel to have to pay attention to. It's easy to make a webchat
link with the fields all pre-filled (e.g. with the channel name. or
even IRC nick)


IRC is not scary for you, but it is a significant barrier to anyone who 
doesn't already know it. So, no, I personally will not be organizing any 
"meetings" on IRC. YMMV.


kc





Unfortunately, Google, being now a key player in the
military-industrial-surveillance community is something I would not
recommend for anyone to join, although current members may wish to meet on a
hangout. It works well for small numbers, but I have never tried to push it
beyond 3-4 participants.


I guess you mean recent NSA shenanigans? I'm still expecting/eager to
hear more details (e.g. the details Google and others have requested
that they be allowed to release) but I think that news doesn't change
much. You should have (IMHO) already been nearly as concerned about
Google 3 months ago as you are today.

I've seen hangouts with dozens of people first hand (and I think at
least 8 active speakers?). I personally think being open to a
substantial number of passive viewers is more important than not using
Google for anything. (but I'm not even sure what the subject is... if
it's really just an editathon/workshop that's different than a meeting
to plan or organize something)


I'm not sure what kind of discussion relating to Wikipedia would be
appropriate for an online meetup, but maybe others have an idea.


I'm not sure either and I like in-person meetings. I was just
responding to the earlier suggestion for online meetings. But not my
region so I'll try to stick mostly to the sidelines.

-Jeremy

P.S. I don't ever hangout (and already wasn't 3 months ago) from the
same Google account I use for anything else. and sometimes I even make
a brand new Google account from scratch for a particular hangout and
then never uses that account again. I think I've only been an active
participant in ~3-4 hangouts ever but I've passively viewed the
livestream of a hangout on air for other hangouts.

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Re: [Wikimedia-SF] Berkeley Wikipedians

[Karen Coyle]

Maybe I should clarify that my idea for a Berkeley group is that it is a 
group that will (mostly) meet in Berkeley. That says nothing about who 
*can* attend -- anyone who wants to come can come. But I'm in Berkeley 
and I want there to be some meetings in Berkeley. That's all.


kc

On 7/29/13 7:29 PM, maiki wrote:

We had a similar discussion back in January:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Groups/San_Francisco#New.2C_related_group_starting_up_23290

I hope folks get together and edit lots of pages. For my part, I don't
want to be part of a group or chapter, I would rather just have an easy
way to follow get togethers, and pick which ones I show up at. This is
the only Wikipedia list I will subscribe to, so if folks do end up
making new groups, please include a page of events I can watch somewhere
(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups?) or make a calendar available.

Part of accessibility is being flexible and considerate of folks who
work all kinds of hours and also have childcare needs, among others. The
very act of creating a group signals to some that they have to be more
involved than you would propose, so I advocate for an informal group
that uses the existing channels to broadcast their meetings, at least
until they've hit that critical mass that they need to create their own
bureaucracy. ^_^

More pointed, I would be interested in attending and acting as roving
support; I don't have a lot of knowledge about any local areas, but I
geek out on MediaWiki, and have experience as an editor in the sense of
checking others' work. I hope you folks success in getting a space
somewhere.

maiki


On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Sabahat Ashraf ("iFaqeer") wrote:

I want to chime in and support this proposal. If the group gets too
big and we have a lot of people from Oakland or Fremont (my personal
home), we can "spin out", but for now, please consider this. If not in
the name, at least in terms of how the chapter is defined and
described.

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On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Sarah Stierch  wrote:

Hi,

Weird request and I understand if it gets shot down for locality:

If a Berkeley meetup group is being formed, think we can create it as an East 
Bay group instead?

I live in Oakland, and I think ideally it would be unifying (since our groups are so 
small) to make it an encompassing group so folks throughout the region feel welcome. But, 
I also understand if folks want to keep it Berkeley-centric for Berkeley locals. (And 
those who feel bold enough to "act" like like one/invade :) )

Thanks for taking the lead on this, it is very appreciated!

Sarah

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On Jul 28, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Karen Coyle  wrote:


Hello, all.

I've taken up the organizer role for the Berkeley Wikipedia meet-up group. I'll 
do some figuring out on how to use Meetup. Would the person who volunteered to 
find a space on UC campus please contact me?

I presume that we are aiming at a September first meeting, given how summer 
seems to disrupt schedules.

If we can't find other meet-up places, my home has wifi, various computers and 
screens, networked printing, and a fridge. We can try a meeting here, if it's 
not a large one.

kc
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