Re: [Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations I think this would lead to tons of spam and a few confused users. There have only been 18 accounts made over the last year and few of those people have edited. You can see the log of created accounts here: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Special:Log/newusers There have been that many spam requests in just the past 2 months. I expect that if registration were open we would get even more spam accounts than this. (Because more bots are programmed to make accounts than request accounts and because they detect other spam on the wiki and note this one as a place you can spam.) If people request an account, we can see if they meant to make an account on Wikipedia instead and redirect them there. They then have a contact email address if they need help, whereas if they made their own account here they'd likely be confused why their new page got deleted or why they're still not able to log in to Wikipedia. Accounts need to be flagged on the wiki as financial or not, so people going through the request process is useful in determining whether they are already members. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
Hi all, Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations - ie. allow anyone so inclined to create an account without any approval required, and edit away. Perhaps editing of the homepage, and associated templates is restricted in some way, but other than that, I can't think of many arguments against that add up to us not giving it a go - in short, if it's horrible, we can just return to the current setup. If you're a member, and you'd like to remove the 'pre' from this proposal, please indicate whether or not you'd be willing to 'second' it; http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:Privatemusings/Open_Wiki#Open_Wiki Thanks All :-) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
The current situation is almost the free for all you request, except that 99% of the non-spam requests are really for editing Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Australia. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On 29 November 2012 12:39, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations - ie. allow anyone so inclined to create an account without any approval required, and edit away. Perhaps editing of the homepage, and associated templates is restricted in some way, but other than that, I can't think of many arguments against that add up to us not giving it a go - in short, if it's horrible, we can just return to the current setup. If you're a member, and you'd like to remove the 'pre' from this proposal, please indicate whether or not you'd be willing to 'second' it; http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:Privatemusings/Open_Wiki#Open_Wiki Thanks All :-) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
If we start to get edits on the chapter wiki which would be more appropriate for another project, it'd be nice to engage a little with these people, I think, it's an appropriate role for the chapter, I reckon. Seems to me that even the relatively low bar of having to request an account isn't ideal - would a commitment to general wiki maintenance on my part encourage you to 2nd the proposal, Mark? (I don't think a 2nd really needs much more than a willingness to give it a go - it needn't be too big a deal.) best, Peter., PM. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com wrote: The current situation is almost the free for all you request, except that 99% of the non-spam requests are really for editing Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Australia. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On 29 November 2012 12:39, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations - ie. allow anyone so inclined to create an account without any approval required, and edit away. Perhaps editing of the homepage, and associated templates is restricted in some way, but other than that, I can't think of many arguments against that add up to us not giving it a go - in short, if it's horrible, we can just return to the current setup. If you're a member, and you'd like to remove the 'pre' from this proposal, please indicate whether or not you'd be willing to 'second' it; http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:Privatemusings/Open_Wiki#Open_Wiki Thanks All :-) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
This is certainly a reason for the status quo (I'm not saying it's a good or bad reason, just that it is one that is true) but from recollection the *primary* reason we locked editing when first creating the Chapter's Wiki was as an incentive for membership of the Chapter. We quickly realised that join us because you'll get the right to edit the wiki wasn't an enticing proposition, but the rule never changed. wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 29 November 2012 16:58, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: From memory one of the orignal reasons for putting a restriction in place was there is unlikely to be sufficient ongoing monitoring to enable a free for all access by restricting editing to known accounts ie known people limited such issues. As the wiki is for WMAU to work on WMAU activities there wouldnt be any need for an open access any one can edit process without the person first being known/identified to the committee anyway. On 29 November 2012 12:16, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: If we start to get edits on the chapter wiki which would be more appropriate for another project, it'd be nice to engage a little with these people, I think, it's an appropriate role for the chapter, I reckon. Seems to me that even the relatively low bar of having to request an account isn't ideal - would a commitment to general wiki maintenance on my part encourage you to 2nd the proposal, Mark? (I don't think a 2nd really needs much more than a willingness to give it a go - it needn't be too big a deal.) best, Peter., PM. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com wrote: The current situation is almost the free for all you request, except that 99% of the non-spam requests are really for editing Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Australia. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On 29 November 2012 12:39, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations - ie. allow anyone so inclined to create an account without any approval required, and edit away. Perhaps editing of the homepage, and associated templates is restricted in some way, but other than that, I can't think of many arguments against that add up to us not giving it a go - in short, if it's horrible, we can just return to the current setup. If you're a member, and you'd like to remove the 'pre' from this proposal, please indicate whether or not you'd be willing to 'second' it; http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:Privatemusings/Open_Wiki#Open_Wiki Thanks All :-) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
