[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Meetup Mumbai 7 - Feb 13, 2011 - GLAM

2011-02-06 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi,

The next meetup of Mumbai Wikipedians is on February 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm
tentatively scheduled to be held at VJTI, Matunga. We have decided to create
a page so that you have time to spread the word. Requesting people who are
attending to sign up here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai7.

I have called the event as Meetup 7 although the last such numbered meetup
was 5. This is because the meetup 6 was Wikipedia Day 2011 meeting. Have
commented accordingly. Hope someone more experienced at such page creations
can have a look through to see if I did anything wrong :).

Feel free to discuss/edit before the meeting any concerns you may have. Liam
Wyatt is coming to Mumbai during this meeting and hence this meeting is
expected to largely focussed on Gallery, Library, Archives and Museums
(GLAM) issues.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Wikipedia Meetup Mumbai 7 - Feb 13, 2011 - GLAM

2011-02-06 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
That is perfecting fine, IMHO.
[[WP:MBL25]] was a regular meetup in Bangalore , [[WP:MBL26]] was our
Wikpedia Ten celeb, [[WP:MBL27]] is our upcoming regular Wiki-meetup.
Having said that, these numbering of events is just for documentation and
tracking of events and nothing more.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 hi,

 The next meetup of Mumbai Wikipedians is on February 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm
 tentatively scheduled to be held at VJTI, Matunga. We have decided to create
 a page so that you have time to spread the word. Requesting people who are
 attending to sign up here -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai7.

 I have called the event as Meetup 7 although the last such numbered meetup
 was 5. This is because the meetup 6 was Wikipedia Day 2011 meeting. Have
 commented accordingly. Hope someone more experienced at such page creations
 can have a look through to see if I did anything wrong :).

 Feel free to discuss/edit before the meeting any concerns you may have.
 Liam Wyatt is coming to Mumbai during this meeting and hence this meeting is
 expected to largely focussed on Gallery, Library, Archives and Museums
 (GLAM) issues.

 warm regards,
 Pradeep Mohandas



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Wikipedia Meetup Mumbai 7 - Feb 13, 2011 - GLAM

2011-02-06 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
I meant, *That is perfectly fine* ...need to enable spell checker on my
brain while sending a mail :)

-TC

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 That is perfecting fine, IMHO.
 [[WP:MBL25]] was a regular meetup in Bangalore , [[WP:MBL26]] was our
 Wikpedia Ten celeb, [[WP:MBL27]] is our upcoming regular Wiki-meetup.
 Having said that, these numbering of events is just for documentation and
 tracking of events and nothing more.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
 pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 The next meetup of Mumbai Wikipedians is on February 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm
 tentatively scheduled to be held at VJTI, Matunga. We have decided to create
 a page so that you have time to spread the word. Requesting people who are
 attending to sign up here -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai7.

 I have called the event as Meetup 7 although the last such numbered meetup
 was 5. This is because the meetup 6 was Wikipedia Day 2011 meeting. Have
 commented accordingly. Hope someone more experienced at such page creations
 can have a look through to see if I did anything wrong :).

 Feel free to discuss/edit before the meeting any concerns you may have.
 Liam Wyatt is coming to Mumbai during this meeting and hence this meeting is
 expected to largely focussed on Gallery, Library, Archives and Museums
 (GLAM) issues.

 warm regards,
 Pradeep Mohandas



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Wikipedia Meetup Mumbai 7 - Feb 13, 2011 - GLAM

2011-02-06 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi,

Thank you for your inputs. All I did was copy-pasted the meetup 5 page and
edited it so these inputs are great.

I mentioned the numbering only for future reference.

warm regards,
Pradeep



On 6 February 2011 18:47, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 And create a How To page for the city Wikimeetups in future :)

 ( Like this for Bangalore )
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Howtodo

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great Pradeep, Keep up the great work.

 A couple of small points for future reference that might be helpful, when
 you link to a redirect like WP:MMU7 you need to create a redirect at that
 page like this:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:MMU7redirect=no

 Also, I saw you use br tags and HTML tags which might just be personal
 preference, which is absolutely alright, but you can also simplify it with
 Wiki markups and transcluding templates to keep it much cleaner.

 Besides those two minor things, everything looks great.


 Have a great Meetup.


 Regards


 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:26 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I meant, *That is perfectly fine* ...need to enable spell checker on my
 brain while sending a mail :)

 -TC


 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is perfecting fine, IMHO.
 [[WP:MBL25]] was a regular meetup in Bangalore , [[WP:MBL26]] was our
 Wikpedia Ten celeb, [[WP:MBL27]] is our upcoming regular Wiki-meetup.
 Having said that, these numbering of events is just for documentation
 and tracking of events and nothing more.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
 pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 The next meetup of Mumbai Wikipedians is on February 13, 2011 at 4:00
 pm tentatively scheduled to be held at VJTI, Matunga. We have decided to
 create a page so that you have time to spread the word. Requesting people
 who are attending to sign up here -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai7.

 I have called the event as Meetup 7 although the last such numbered
 meetup was 5. This is because the meetup 6 was Wikipedia Day 2011 meeting.
 Have commented accordingly. Hope someone more experienced at such page
 creations can have a look through to see if I did anything wrong :).

 Feel free to discuss/edit before the meeting any concerns you may have.
 Liam Wyatt is coming to Mumbai during this meeting and hence this meeting 
 is
 expected to largely focussed on Gallery, Library, Archives and Museums
 (GLAM) issues.

 warm regards,
 Pradeep Mohandas



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[Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Dear all, 


Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting of the 
Executive Committee (EC) was held on the 22nd January 2011 at 2 PM at 194, 2nd 
C 
Cross, Domlur 2nd Phase, Bangalore 560071. 

As mandated by the MoA, the office bearers were elected. The executive 
committee 
now constitutes of: 

* Arjuna Rao Chavala, President 
* Hari Prasad HS, Secretary 
* Anirudh Singh Bhati, Treasurer 
* Arun Ramarathnam, Member 
* BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member 
* Gautam K John, Member 
* Srinivas Gunta, Member 
We would like to take the opportunity to thank the Centre for Internet and 
Society, Bangalore for allowing generous use of their office facility for the 
conduct of chapter meetings and helping with registration formalities with 
services of a Consultant. 

We take this opportunity to thank the following people: (in alphabetical order) 
Achal Prabhala, Barry Newstead, Bence Damokos, Bishakha Datta, Delphine 
Meynard, 
M Narasimha Rao, Ray Saintonge, Sunil Abraham, and Ting Chen. 

We thank the Wikimedia Community for their help and encouragement and patience 
with the registration process. 

For brief biographies and photos of the EC members, please see:Wikimedia India 
Chapter Executive Committee Members 


On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter 
BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, 
Member, Wikimedia Chapter 
 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Hearty congratulations to Arjuna Rao , Hari Prasad  Anirudh Bhati as the
new office bearers of the Wikimedia India chapter. Well deserved  best
wishes for the future.

Having said that, this unexpected announcement leaves me with
several unanswered questions. This has to do nothing with any doubts on
the calibre , integrity  abilities of new office bearers or the rest of the
committee members. I still personally share a very close  cordial relations
with all of the exec comn members, but that doesn't prevent me from asking
lots of questions and concerns as an ordinary Wikimedian like me and it may
be possibly shared by several others in this list.

a) If there was to be a change of the office bearers of the chapter (
decided) on the Jan 22 Exec Comm meeting, why wasn't it announced publicly?
Was there an agenda of election of new office bearers for this meeting or
just happened as a co-incidence ? What were the other decisions taken on
that meeting ? Is there a publicly available minutes of meeting ?

b) How were the new office bearers elected ? Was there an election ? Did the
previous office bearers voluntarily resign and called for a new election?
Was there a vote ? If there was a vote, will it be publicly shared? What was
the need of change of office bearers within few months of chapter approval
or one month of chapter registration ? I thought the term of the executive
committee members and the office bearers was for two years.

 I am sorry but I have to say this , IMHO it is not an ethical
and transparent process if the 7 executive members keep electing each other,
each time 

c) There were several discussions on this mailing list on the chapter on Jan
30 th , 2011 [1] [2] ( after the so called meeting) and had mentions of the
current office bearers and none of the executive com members even bothered
to clarify. I remember at least two of the exec members replying to those
threads then.

d) So the new office bearers' elections happened on Jan 22 , 2011 ? And I
wonder what took the chapter several weeks to announce , such a important
change publicly ? Remember this new election happened even without a
publicly announced agenda, before the meeting. How many such elections can
we expect during the current term of the committee?

We already had lots of concerns shared by the community for the lack
of transparency by the chapter and these kinds of things will only underline
them.

If this is the way the chapter intends to operate, I am deeply concerned and
worried about its future.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

N.B.
a) To clarify, I don't intend to run for any office positions for the
chapter. But I may have to even think twice to be part of a body which
clearly intends to work without any proper transparency and works
disconnected from the community, which it supposedly represents.

b) I have always supported the chapter previously in the several discussions
earlier, but this announcement put me really worried and hence this mail.
Anyways, my best wishes again for the new office bearers and the chapter.
Hoping the see more transparent and candid efforts from the chapter in
future.

[1]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-January/001891.html

[2]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/001935.html


On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,


 Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting of
 the Executive Committee (EC) was held on the 22nd January 2011 at 2 PM at
 194, 2nd C Cross, Domlur 2nd Phase, Bangalore 560071.

 As mandated by the MoA, the office bearers were elected. The executive
 committee now constitutes of:

- Arjuna Rao Chavala, *President*
- Hari Prasad HS, *Secretary*
- Anirudh Singh Bhati, *Treasurer*
- Arun Ramarathnam, Member
- BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member
- Gautam K John, Member
- Srinivas Gunta, Member

 We would like to take the opportunity to thank the Centre for Internet and
 Society, Bangalore for allowing generous use of their office facility for
 the conduct of chapter meetings and helping with registration formalities
 with services of a Consultant.

 We take this opportunity to thank the following people: (in alphabetical
 order) Achal Prabhala, Barry Newstead, Bence Damokos, Bishakha Datta,
 Delphine Meynard, M Narasimha Rao, Ray Saintonge, Sunil Abraham, and Ting
 Chen.

 We thank the Wikimedia Community for their help and encouragement and
 patience with the registration process.

 For brief biographies and photos of the EC members, please see:Wikimedia
 India Chapter Executive Committee 
 Membershttp://wikimedia.in/wiki/Wikimedia_India_Chapter_Executive_Committee_Members


 On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter

 BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan,

 Member, Wikimedia Chapter

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
 - George Boole, quoted 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread jayanta nath

 *  7 executive members keep electing each other, each time  *


Nice observation from Tinu. My observation and  comment is same as
below.



On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hearty congratulations to Arjuna Rao , Hari Prasad  Anirudh Bhati as the
 new office bearers of the Wikimedia India chapter. Well deserved  best
 wishes for the future.

 Having said that, this unexpected announcement leaves me with
 several unanswered questions. This has to do nothing with any doubts on
 the calibre , integrity  abilities of new office bearers or the rest of the
 committee members. I still personally share a very close  cordial relations
 with all of the exec comn members, but that doesn't prevent me from asking
 lots of questions and concerns as an ordinary Wikimedian like me and it may
 be possibly shared by several others in this list.

 a) If there was to be a change of the office bearers of the chapter (
 decided) on the Jan 22 Exec Comm meeting, why wasn't it announced publicly?
 Was there an agenda of election of new office bearers for this meeting or
 just happened as a co-incidence ? What were the other decisions taken on
 that meeting ? Is there a publicly available minutes of meeting ?

 b) How were the new office bearers elected ? Was there an election ? Did
 the previous office bearers voluntarily resign and called for a new
 election? Was there a vote ? If there was a vote, will it be publicly
 shared? What was the need of change of office bearers within few months of
 chapter approval or one month of chapter registration ? I thought the term
 of the executive committee members and the office bearers was for two years.

  I am sorry but I have to say this , IMHO it is not an ethical
 and transparent process if the 7 executive members keep electing each other,
 each time 

 c) There were several discussions on this mailing list on the chapter on
 Jan 30 th , 2011 [1] [2] ( after the so called meeting) and had mentions of
 the current office bearers and none of the executive com members even
 bothered to clarify. I remember at least two of the exec members replying to
 those threads then.

 d) So the new office bearers' elections happened on Jan 22 , 2011 ? And I
 wonder what took the chapter several weeks to announce , such a important
 change publicly ? Remember this new election happened even without a
 publicly announced agenda, before the meeting. How many such elections can
 we expect during the current term of the committee?

 We already had lots of concerns shared by the community for the lack
 of transparency by the chapter and these kinds of things will only underline
 them.

 If this is the way the chapter intends to operate, I am deeply concerned
 and worried about its future.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 N.B.
 a) To clarify, I don't intend to run for any office positions for the
 chapter. But I may have to even think twice to be part of a body which
 clearly intends to work without any proper transparency and works
 disconnected from the community, which it supposedly represents.

 b) I have always supported the chapter previously in the several
 discussions earlier, but this announcement put me really worried and hence
 this mail. Anyways, my best wishes again for the new office bearers and the
 chapter. Hoping the see more transparent and candid efforts from the chapter
 in future.

 [1]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-January/001891.html

 [2]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/001935.html


 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,


 Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting of
 the Executive Committee (EC) was held on the 22nd January 2011 at 2 PM at
 194, 2nd C Cross, Domlur 2nd Phase, Bangalore 560071.

 As mandated by the MoA, the office bearers were elected. The executive
 committee now constitutes of:

- Arjuna Rao Chavala, *President*
- Hari Prasad HS, *Secretary*
- Anirudh Singh Bhati, *Treasurer*
- Arun Ramarathnam, Member
- BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member
- Gautam K John, Member
- Srinivas Gunta, Member

 We would like to take the opportunity to thank the Centre for Internet and
 Society, Bangalore for allowing generous use of their office facility for
 the conduct of chapter meetings and helping with registration formalities
 with services of a Consultant.

 We take this opportunity to thank the following people: (in alphabetical
 order) Achal Prabhala, Barry Newstead, Bence Damokos, Bishakha Datta,
 Delphine Meynard, M Narasimha Rao, Ray Saintonge, Sunil Abraham, and Ting
 Chen.

 We thank the Wikimedia Community for their help and encouragement and
 patience with the registration process.

 For brief biographies and photos of the EC members, please see:Wikimedia
 India Chapter Executive Committee 
 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread Theo10011
Ahh, wasn't the chapter registered less than a month ago Tinu? I don't know
more than half the people from the chapter but I think you're being
awfully presumptuous in claiming that the executive members keep electing
each other. I thought this was the founding group, the registered entity
has been around for less than a month, right or did I miss something?


Regards


Salmaan
User:Theo10011


On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:04 AM, jayanta nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote:

 *  7 executive members keep electing each other, each time  *


 Nice observation from Tinu. My observation and  comment is same as
 below.



 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hearty congratulations to Arjuna Rao , Hari Prasad  Anirudh Bhati as the
 new office bearers of the Wikimedia India chapter. Well deserved  best
 wishes for the future.

 Having said that, this unexpected announcement leaves me with
 several unanswered questions. This has to do nothing with any doubts on
 the calibre , integrity  abilities of new office bearers or the rest of the
 committee members. I still personally share a very close  cordial relations
 with all of the exec comn members, but that doesn't prevent me from asking
 lots of questions and concerns as an ordinary Wikimedian like me and it may
 be possibly shared by several others in this list.

 a) If there was to be a change of the office bearers of the chapter (
 decided) on the Jan 22 Exec Comm meeting, why wasn't it announced publicly?
 Was there an agenda of election of new office bearers for this meeting or
 just happened as a co-incidence ? What were the other decisions taken on
 that meeting ? Is there a publicly available minutes of meeting ?

 b) How were the new office bearers elected ? Was there an election ? Did
 the previous office bearers voluntarily resign and called for a new
 election? Was there a vote ? If there was a vote, will it be publicly
 shared? What was the need of change of office bearers within few months of
 chapter approval or one month of chapter registration ? I thought the term
 of the executive committee members and the office bearers was for two years.

  I am sorry but I have to say this , IMHO it is not an ethical
 and transparent process if the 7 executive members keep electing each other,
 each time 

 c) There were several discussions on this mailing list on the chapter on
 Jan 30 th , 2011 [1] [2] ( after the so called meeting) and had mentions of
 the current office bearers and none of the executive com members even
 bothered to clarify. I remember at least two of the exec members replying to
 those threads then.

 d) So the new office bearers' elections happened on Jan 22 , 2011 ? And I
 wonder what took the chapter several weeks to announce , such a important
 change publicly ? Remember this new election happened even without a
 publicly announced agenda, before the meeting. How many such elections can
 we expect during the current term of the committee?

 We already had lots of concerns shared by the community for the lack
 of transparency by the chapter and these kinds of things will only underline
 them.

 If this is the way the chapter intends to operate, I am deeply concerned
 and worried about its future.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 N.B.
 a) To clarify, I don't intend to run for any office positions for the
 chapter. But I may have to even think twice to be part of a body which
 clearly intends to work without any proper transparency and works
 disconnected from the community, which it supposedly represents.

 b) I have always supported the chapter previously in the several
 discussions earlier, but this announcement put me really worried and hence
 this mail. Anyways, my best wishes again for the new office bearers and the
 chapter. Hoping the see more transparent and candid efforts from the chapter
 in future.

 [1]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-January/001891.html

 [2]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/001935.html


 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, BalaSundaraRaman 
 sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,


 Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting of
 the Executive Committee (EC) was held on the 22nd January 2011 at 2 PM at
 194, 2nd C Cross, Domlur 2nd Phase, Bangalore 560071.

 As mandated by the MoA, the office bearers were elected. The executive
 committee now constitutes of:

- Arjuna Rao Chavala, *President*
- Hari Prasad HS, *Secretary*
- Anirudh Singh Bhati, *Treasurer*
- Arun Ramarathnam, Member
- BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member
- Gautam K John, Member
- Srinivas Gunta, Member

 We would like to take the opportunity to thank the Centre for Internet
 and Society, Bangalore for allowing generous use of their office facility
 for the conduct of chapter meetings and helping with registration
 formalities with services of a Consultant.

 We take this 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
I too get the same impression as Salmaan - this election is the
formalisation of existing executive members after the registration was
completed. But i do see the designations have changed per the diff here -
http://wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Executive_Committee_Membersaction=historysubmitdiff=1767oldid=1599

Can someone enlighten me when the last election was held? and how long have
the current exec council members have been exec members. The memorandum of
association states the election is to be an annual one, but the memorandum
page in wikimedia.in itself was created only on April 2010. (I am new to the
list and am just curious).

regards
Bala
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ahh, wasn't the chapter registered less than a month ago Tinu? I don't know
 more than half the people from the chapter but I think you're being
 awfully presumptuous in claiming that the executive members keep electing
 each other. I thought this was the founding group, the registered entity
 has been around for less than a month, right or did I miss something?


 Regards


 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:04 AM, jayanta nath jayanta...@gmail.comwrote:

  *  7 executive members keep electing each other, each time  *


 Nice observation from Tinu. My observation and  comment is same as
 below.



 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hearty congratulations to Arjuna Rao , Hari Prasad  Anirudh Bhati as the
 new office bearers of the Wikimedia India chapter. Well deserved  best
 wishes for the future.

 Having said that, this unexpected announcement leaves me with
 several unanswered questions. This has to do nothing with any doubts on
 the calibre , integrity  abilities of new office bearers or the rest of the
 committee members. I still personally share a very close  cordial relations
 with all of the exec comn members, but that doesn't prevent me from asking
 lots of questions and concerns as an ordinary Wikimedian like me and it may
 be possibly shared by several others in this list.

 a) If there was to be a change of the office bearers of the chapter (
 decided) on the Jan 22 Exec Comm meeting, why wasn't it announced publicly?
 Was there an agenda of election of new office bearers for this meeting or
 just happened as a co-incidence ? What were the other decisions taken on
 that meeting ? Is there a publicly available minutes of meeting ?

 b) How were the new office bearers elected ? Was there an election ? Did
 the previous office bearers voluntarily resign and called for a new
 election? Was there a vote ? If there was a vote, will it be publicly
 shared? What was the need of change of office bearers within few months of
 chapter approval or one month of chapter registration ? I thought the term
 of the executive committee members and the office bearers was for two years.

  I am sorry but I have to say this , IMHO it is not an ethical
 and transparent process if the 7 executive members keep electing each other,
 each time 

 c) There were several discussions on this mailing list on the chapter on
 Jan 30 th , 2011 [1] [2] ( after the so called meeting) and had mentions of
 the current office bearers and none of the executive com members even
 bothered to clarify. I remember at least two of the exec members replying to
 those threads then.

 d) So the new office bearers' elections happened on Jan 22 , 2011 ? And I
 wonder what took the chapter several weeks to announce , such a important
 change publicly ? Remember this new election happened even without a
 publicly announced agenda, before the meeting. How many such elections can
 we expect during the current term of the committee?

 We already had lots of concerns shared by the community for the lack
 of transparency by the chapter and these kinds of things will only underline
 them.

 If this is the way the chapter intends to operate, I am deeply concerned
 and worried about its future.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 N.B.
 a) To clarify, I don't intend to run for any office positions for the
 chapter. But I may have to even think twice to be part of a body which
 clearly intends to work without any proper transparency and works
 disconnected from the community, which it supposedly represents.

 b) I have always supported the chapter previously in the several
 discussions earlier, but this announcement put me really worried and hence
 this mail. Anyways, my best wishes again for the new office bearers and the
 chapter. Hoping the see more transparent and candid efforts from the chapter
 in future.

 [1]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-January/001891.html

 [2]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/001935.html


 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:23 PM, BalaSundaraRaman 
 sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,


 Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting
 of the Executive 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hearty congratulations to the newly elected office bearers.

Tinu,
The MoA Article[1] VII (7)  (12) would answer some of your questions
related to election of office bearers and to me it seems perfectly within
the frame of things. I think the general members get to vote only after the
current term ends for this team.(Correct me if am wrong).

Well, I do share some of the concerns raised by Tinu on transparency. It is
even more ironical how come such a major change was never
communicated, especially a thread was running on the mailing on the very
same subject of *Chapter* from Jan 30 and no one bothered to update. I feel
the role of chapter has probably not reached well among the community
[questions around edit counts becoming criteria reflect that] and in such a
situation the chapter should communicate more often and more
clearly,openly.However these sort of issues would only further widen the gap
between chapter and community in the negative direction.

While i continue to appreciate the efforts of the folks behind chapter for
spending their valuable time, I would request the EC to add communicating
to the community in a regular and timely fashion  to the code of
conduct[Article VII (8)] so that members do spend some time in communicating
with the community.

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA-ChapComVer

Regards
Srikanth.L
http://srik.me


On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 19:23, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,


 Following the registration of the Wikimedia Chapter, the first meeting of
 the Executive Committee (EC) was held on the 22nd January 2011 at 2 PM at
 194, 2nd C Cross, Domlur 2nd Phase, Bangalore 560071.

 As mandated by the MoA, the office bearers were elected. The executive
 committee now constitutes of:

- Arjuna Rao Chavala, *President*
- Hari Prasad HS, *Secretary*
- Anirudh Singh Bhati, *Treasurer*
- Arun Ramarathnam, Member
- BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan, Member
- Gautam K John, Member
- Srinivas Gunta, Member

 We would like to take the opportunity to thank the Centre for Internet and
 Society, Bangalore for allowing generous use of their office facility for
 the conduct of chapter meetings and helping with registration formalities
 with services of a Consultant.

 We take this opportunity to thank the following people: (in alphabetical
 order) Achal Prabhala, Barry Newstead, Bence Damokos, Bishakha Datta,
 Delphine Meynard, M Narasimha Rao, Ray Saintonge, Sunil Abraham, and Ting
 Chen.

 We thank the Wikimedia Community for their help and encouragement and
 patience with the registration process.

 For brief biographies and photos of the EC members, please see:Wikimedia
 India Chapter Executive Committee 
 Membershttp://wikimedia.in/wiki/Wikimedia_India_Chapter_Executive_Committee_Members


 On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter

 BalaSundaraRaman Lakshmanan,

 Member, Wikimedia Chapter

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 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Voting on Steward Elections 2011 has started - Please vote

2011-02-06 Thread Jyothis E
All,

Election has started. Please
votehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2011
.

Thanks.

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

My Malayalam Wikipedia page http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
Metawiki page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com
My toolserver tools http://toolserver.org/~jyothis

woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
*lines to go before I press sleep*

completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources)
+ ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Communication from the Executive Committee regarding first meeting

2011-02-06 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
pTinu,/p
pI'm traveling and hence can't respond until tomorrow. I'm sure other EC 
members would respond by that time./p
p- Sundar/p
pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p
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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] :The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts

2011-02-06 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/article1141587.ece


Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] :The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts

2011-02-06 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
which script is being used now? devanagari or kannada?

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:35 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts

 http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/article1141587.ece


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikibasha and code signature

2011-02-06 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
Microsoft's translation tool Wikibasha creates a code snippet like this -
!-- WikiBhasha v=1 time=2011-2-6:11:20:20:309-- at the bottom of the
article everytime it is used to edit wikipedia pages. I found this out when
the MS representative made sample edits to Tamil wikipedia. He claims that
they need this to track the edits made using wikibasha.

I believe this practice is highly disruptive because, adding such a
signature to the bottom of the article is
a)tantamount to claiming that the entire article is the work of wikibasha
b) If we allow this practice, then all automated tools will start adding
their code snippets, bloating the page with useless code signatures.

wikipedians who took part in yesterday's carte blanche wiki workshop at
chennai have conveyed this to the representative and have recommended using
the tag in edit summaries instead. But i have no idea if Microsoft will
actually listen to us.

I thought i would inform the wider indic wiki communities regarding this. If
wikibasha is used in your respective wiki's and keeps adding this signature,
please urge the wikibasha developers to stop this practice.

regards
Bala


On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Almost similar issue with Tulu language also.

 http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/tcy


 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote:

 which script is being used now? devanagari or kannada?

 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:35 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts

 http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/article1141587.ece


 Regards
 Tinu Cherian
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