Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-blr] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[CherianTinu Abraham]

Let us hope that this is not such a one.

What if this is actually meant for our Sanskrit Wikipedia ? Or possibly we
convince them it is worth for developing the existing Sanskrit Wikipedia ?

Let us not jump into conclusions and let us hear from the person who have
been invited today by Arunram.

( Another reason why people should be attending the Bangalore meetup today
;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MBL30 )

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:58 AM,  wrote:

> Tinu, with the efforts that you and your team takes, I really doubt if it
> is the problem of increasing more initiatives.
>
> It is more to do with no direction and pocket the money in name of starting
> something new.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[CherianTinu Abraham]

Sanskrit Bharathi volunteers were generally keen on our Sanskrit Wikipedia.
Arunram and others have conducted Wiki academies for them. Probably good
idea to take them more into confidence with our movement.

While Kerala & TN governments have chosen to go with the Wikipedia, it is
sad that Karnataka government is always trying to reinvent the wheel.  May
be we are not reaching out with them properly.

It may be a good idea to set up a Chapter task force for government liaisons
and policy making, which includes those folks who have done these kind of
stuff successfully more than those who have contacts.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Naveen B M  wrote:

> From the state budget speech here (
> http://www.kar.nic.in/finance/bud2011/bsp2011.htm), it appears this is a
> grant to Sanskrit Bharathi
>
>
> >>>   182.  To develop Sanskrit Wikipedia, Rs 1 crore would be provided as
> a grant to Sanskrit Bharathi.
>
>
> Naveen
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:
>
>> Just checked with my sources in the government - and what I hear is that
>> the allocated funds *isn't* for Sanskrit Wikipedia, but a project "on the
>> lines" of Sanskrit Wikipedia, but perhaps with editing control.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Prashanth NS wrote:
>>
>>> Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and then it got converted
>>> into an internal project.
>>>
>>> But, a good opportunity for advocacy here. Perhaps some chapter members
>>> should meet the department officials and try and get co-opted into the
>>> decision-making process. Often, it is lack of information and trust that
>>> scares them. Unlike 2 years, back with the chapter in place and most of us
>>> quite well networked, we should get involved closely and see if we can get
>>> them to invest in improving the sanskrit and kananda wikis.
>>>
>>>
>> The government usually prefers a project with editing control rather than
>> one without any direct control over content decisions made.
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Naveen B M]

>From the state budget speech here (
http://www.kar.nic.in/finance/bud2011/bsp2011.htm), it appears this is a
grant to Sanskrit Bharathi


>>>   182.  To develop Sanskrit Wikipedia, Rs 1 crore would be provided as a
grant to Sanskrit Bharathi.


Naveen


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:

> Just checked with my sources in the government - and what I hear is that
> the allocated funds *isn't* for Sanskrit Wikipedia, but a project "on the
> lines" of Sanskrit Wikipedia, but perhaps with editing control.
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Prashanth NS wrote:
>
>> Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and then it got converted
>> into an internal project.
>>
>> But, a good opportunity for advocacy here. Perhaps some chapter members
>> should meet the department officials and try and get co-opted into the
>> decision-making process. Often, it is lack of information and trust that
>> scares them. Unlike 2 years, back with the chapter in place and most of us
>> quite well networked, we should get involved closely and see if we can get
>> them to invest in improving the sanskrit and kananda wikis.
>>
>>
> The government usually prefers a project with editing control rather than
> one without any direct control over content decisions made.
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Anivar Aravind
wrote:

> Dear hp nadig,
>
> Which department will be incharge of such wikipedia like projects?
>
> May be it can be used for releasing the content and images under
> wikipedia complaint license, even if they keep editing control
>

http://www.jnanaayoga.in/home.htm

The state Knowledge Commission.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Anivar Aravind]

Dear hp nadig,

Which department will be incharge of such wikipedia like projects?

May be it can be used for releasing the content and images under
wikipedia complaint license, even if they keep editing control

Anivar

On 2/25/11, Hari Prasad Nadig  wrote:
> Just checked with my sources in the government - and what I hear is that the
> allocated funds *isn't* for Sanskrit Wikipedia, but a project "on the lines"
> of Sanskrit Wikipedia, but perhaps with editing control.
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Prashanth NS
> wrote:
>
>> Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and then it got converted
>> into an internal project.
>>
>> But, a good opportunity for advocacy here. Perhaps some chapter members
>> should meet the department officials and try and get co-opted into the
>> decision-making process. Often, it is lack of information and trust that
>> scares them. Unlike 2 years, back with the chapter in place and most of us
>> quite well networked, we should get involved closely and see if we can get
>> them to invest in improving the sanskrit and kananda wikis.
>>
>>
> The government usually prefers a project with editing control rather than
> one without any direct control over content decisions made.
>
> --
> Hari Prasad Nadig
>

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Jacob Joseph Puthenparambil]

Just checked with a former colleague in the Railway Board. It's a  
wikipedia "kind" on solution for internal use.


Jacob


On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:

Just checked with my sources in the government - and what I hear is  
that the allocated funds *isn't* for Sanskrit Wikipedia, but a  
project "on the lines" of Sanskrit Wikipedia, but perhaps with  
editing control.


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Prashanth NS  
 wrote:
Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and then it got  
converted into an internal project.


But, a good opportunity for advocacy here. Perhaps some chapter  
members should meet the department officials and try and get co- 
opted into the decision-making process. Often, it is lack of  
information and trust that scares them. Unlike 2 years, back with  
the chapter in place and most of us quite well networked, we should  
get involved closely and see if we can get them to invest in  
improving the sanskrit and kananda wikis.



The government usually prefers a project with editing control rather  
than one without any direct control over content decisions made.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Arun Ramarathnam]

A quick note to say yes, do know the people who moved this request. We will
need to be validate this as is with all things government.

We can discuss this in the evening meetup. I have requested the gentleman
involved in this to come to the evening meetup.

I am hoping he can make it.
More when we meetup. More details later.

regards
Arun

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:

> Times of India in Bangalore front page article about the Karnataka budget
> says there is Rs 1 Cr for Sanskrit Wikipedia.
>
> Anyone know anything about this?
>
> Barry
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

Just checked with my sources in the government - and what I hear is that the
allocated funds *isn't* for Sanskrit Wikipedia, but a project "on the lines"
of Sanskrit Wikipedia, but perhaps with editing control.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Prashanth NS wrote:

> Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and then it got converted
> into an internal project.
>
> But, a good opportunity for advocacy here. Perhaps some chapter members
> should meet the department officials and try and get co-opted into the
> decision-making process. Often, it is lack of information and trust that
> scares them. Unlike 2 years, back with the chapter in place and most of us
> quite well networked, we should get involved closely and see if we can get
> them to invest in improving the sanskrit and kananda wikis.
>
>
The government usually prefers a project with editing control rather than
one without any direct control over content decisions made.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Prashanth NS]

Yea. I remember that announcement 2 years back and then it got converted
into an internal project.

But, a good opportunity for advocacy here. Perhaps some chapter members
should meet the department officials and try and get co-opted into the
decision-making process. Often, it is lack of information and trust that
scares them. Unlike 2 years, back with the chapter in place and most of us
quite well networked, we should get involved closely and see if we can get
them to invest in improving the sanskrit and kananda wikis.

Strangely, I don't see this in any other paper other than TOI? Anybody got
another link?

Prashanth N S
Faculty, Institute of Public Health, Bangalore ( http://www.iphindia.org )
Asst. Director (Research), Karuna Trust & VGKK

web @ http://daktre.com
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:

> Personally, I'd be careful not to jump to conclusions just because they've
> used the word "Wikipedia" in the announcement.
>
> Two years back, the budget said "Rs XYZ Crores for Wikipedia in Kannada"
> and that turned out to be for a project the government wanted to do "on the
> lines of" Kannada Wikipedia, but one that had full editing control. They did
> not even know that there was an already existing Kannada Wikipedia. The
> project was later named "KaNaja" (http://kanaja.in).
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Times of India in Bangalore front page article about the Karnataka budget
>> says there is Rs 1 Cr for Sanskrit Wikipedia.
>>
>> Anyone know anything about this?
>>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

Personally, I'd be careful not to jump to conclusions just because they've
used the word "Wikipedia" in the announcement.

Two years back, the budget said "Rs XYZ Crores for Wikipedia in Kannada" and
that turned out to be for a project the government wanted to do "on the
lines of" Kannada Wikipedia, but one that had full editing control. They did
not even know that there was an already existing Kannada Wikipedia. The
project was later named "KaNaja" (http://kanaja.in).

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:

> Times of India in Bangalore front page article about the Karnataka budget
> says there is Rs 1 Cr for Sanskrit Wikipedia.
>
> Anyone know anything about this?
>

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[Wikimediaindia-l] ToI front page: Rs 1 cr for Sanskrit WP

[bnewstead]

Times of India in Bangalore front page article about the Karnataka budget says 
there is Rs 1 Cr for Sanskrit Wikipedia.

Anyone know anything about this?

Barry
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Bangalore Wikimeetup 30 with Hisham Mundol on 25 Feb 2011

[CherianTinu Abraham]

Just a gentle reminder. This is happening today at 6:30 PM at CIS,
Bangalore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MBL30

Do plan to attend.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:54 PM, hisham mundol wrote:

>  Many thanks for this email, Tinu.
>
> I'm really looking forwarding to meeting the community in Bangalore.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> hisham
>
>
> On 2/21/2011 5:36 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Hisham Mundol was recently hired [1] as an consultant to the
> Wikimedia Foundation to support the program initiatives in India.
> Hisham Mundol will be primarily based in India and will be working closely
> with the Wikimedian community in India.
>
>  Hisham Mundol is coming to Bangalore to connect with the Wikimedian
> community in Bangalore.
>
>  Date : *Friday, 25-Feb-2011 6:30 PM IST *
>  Venue:
> The Centre for Internet and Society
> No. 194, 2nd 'C' Cross,
> 4th Main
> Domlur 2nd Stage
> Opposite to Domlur Club
> Bangalore 560 071
> Karnataka
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore30
>
>  Do plan to attend and kindly sign up.
>
>  About Hisham Mundol :
>
>  *Hisham Mundol's  role will be to design and implement specific pilot
> programs that encourage many more Indians to become contributors to our
> projects in Indic languages as well as English. The National Programs
> initiative will focus on the following areas in the first year:*
> *Design and implement an India-wide program to increase Wikimedia’s
> footprint on university and college campuses with students and faculty with
> the aim of encouraging contributions to Wikimedia projects*
>  *Support the launch and implementation of community-initiated programs
> that seek to increase the editor base for Wikimedia projects*
> *Engage with the community and chapter to build a strong relationship
> among these stakeholder groups and create communications forums that allow
> for effective partnerships*
> *As a newcomer to the Wikimedia movement, Hisham’s first task will be to
> deepen his understanding of us: our history, goals, values, culture and
> mission. *
> *
> *
> *Hisham was most recently a consultant with the Public Health Foundation
> of India (in a partnership with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation). He
> designed and implemented large-scale national  programs on HIV/AIDS
> prevention. He worked to understand the dynamics of hard-to-reach
> communities by conducting in-depth, on-the-ground analysis (ask him to tell
> you about his experience talking to drivers while sitting under their
> trucks).  The programs he designed and implemented sought to convince people
> in large numbers - 400 million young people across the nation - to change
> very personal behaviours.  While we are not tackling issues of such an
> intimate nature, we do aim to convince large numbers of people across the
> country to contribute their personal time to Wikimedia projects.  During
> this assignment, Hisham worked closely with public, private and community
> groups (local and international) to work through the details of the programs
> and build partnerships for implementing them at scale. He did so in a manner
> that used persuasion rather than power to build support to move things
> forward.  We think his experience navigating these varied groups position
> him well to work in the Wikimedia community. His earlier career was in
> marketing and business development with a number of well-known businesses:
> Infosys, Accenture, Cadbury and Unilever. This experience positions him well
> to engage with a movement and organization that is global in nature, in
> particular to work with a team that is based halfway around the world. *
>  ( Introduction by Barry Newstead , GCDO , Wikimedia Foundation) [1]
>
>  Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
>  [1]
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/002239.html
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> [2]
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FAQ_Consultancy_for_National_Programs,_India
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[Wikimediaindia-l] The Narayam extension

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
I am really happy to announce that the Narayam extension is installed and
running at translatewiki.net. Currently it provides input methods for the
Malayalam and Bangla languages. It has been enabled so that Narayam can be
tested both for its functionality and for these input methods. We expect
that many more languages need support for the input methods for their
language. As Narayam is intended as a framework solution, it will allow for
a solution that can easily extended.

The status of the software is "functional" but it needs more tender loving
care from Junaid PV and other developers to before it is ready for the
Wikimedia Foundation. When you want support for an input method for your
language, please contact Shiju Alex who manages this project.

As always, we welcome it when you localise this and other software at
translatewiki.net.. :)
Thanks,
   GerardM

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to add a logo for WIkipedia Odia

[jayanta nath]

Thanks Asutosh. Thats fine .

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:11 PM, asutosh kar  wrote:

> logo created, uploaded in commons and wikipedia 2.0 page and also bug
> raised on bugzilla
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-V2-or.png
>
> hope will be done in a days or two
>
> thanks all for help and pointers.
> regards
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
> psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for your quick response, here is what I have made, I think I need
>> to change it a little bit and which format and what size Wikipedia supports.
>>
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