Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments Winners from India

2012-11-06 Thread Béria Lima

 *It is not a pure virtual world event, in most countries, it
 had photo-walks, local cultural institute partnerships, sponsors,
 promotion, juries, and yes, prizes among other things. (Beh, clarify here
 please!)*


Well, I can only talk about WMPT experience, and it was so much off line
work. We had like 8 in person meetings to get the list from IGESPAR (our
ASI), we needed to travel several times to meet with sponsors (sometimes
crossing the country), we needed to talk with promotion partners, prize
partners and PR partners (all that also in person). We needed to set up a
place for the jury meeting (and all the logistics involved). We had 2 Wiki
Takes events and we needed to set up the prize reception.

WLM is a wonderful thing to do, but definitely isn't a pure virtual event.
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On 6 November 2012 13:53, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:


 There is actually very little that is as disappointing as people who never
 did the work, complaining about people who actually did. I don't recall any
 previous organization of WLM from you or the chapter in the last year. It
 is easy to nitpick an incoming batch of young volunteers, doing something
 for the first time, it is harder to actually do something. I didn't have
 the time or the energy to take this up, neither did you, but I won't
 criticize them now over trivial matters on an announcement email.

 On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@gmail.comwrote:


 I'm not sure how familiar you are with WLM. But if you look on the
 commons page for the winners[1], a large majority of them are redlinks with
 next to no information about real names and locations of photographers. I
 believe the competition has more to do with the pictures themselves than
 the photographers. Some of the winners created their account for the sole
 purpose of uploading the pics, some chose their names, some didn't. It is
 their right if they choose to not declare their real name and location.
 Putting this information on commons without their permission, can be
 tantamount to WP:OUTING[2] and against the Wikimedia privacy policy.


 I very much am involved with WLM and also know the policies.  You seem to
 have missed some mails on this topic from me.


 Ah, I must have forgotten the time you organized WLM in the past. Lucky
 for you, all mails are archived[1]. Why don't you go ahead and find it? I
 only see a single relevant email from you in the last year mentioning the
 IRC meeting time related to WLM and other business. I wasn't talking about
 WLM policy, just general privacy policy, which would require that
 information oversighted on en.wp, and commons, and the offender warned in
 most cases.



 BTW, this is just not a virtual world event  as there is lot of prize
 money at stake. I am not advocating  that Karthik share  the real names
 without contacting the winners. If my mail was not clear in that aspect, I
 am sorry.


 Yes, it wasn't clear. You are not just haranguing what might be, a small
 oversight publicly, which is really supportive of these new office bearers.


 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com
  wrote:


 Disappointed that there are no user pages or  information on background
 of contributors of winning entries.


 Let's try and contain the disappointment, shall we? ;) This was a big
 initiative taken by such a young group of volunteers. They deserve to
 lauded for their achievement. The information about the individual
 photographer is rarely a priority during these initiatives.

 Sorry to disagree. As mentioned, this is just not a pure  virtual world
 event. Once we know the winning photographs, there is a curiosity to know
 the author/photographers of the award winning entries.


 Apparently, you seem to be the only one with this burning curiosity.
 Actually to correct you again, it is not a pure virtual world event, in
 most countries, it had photo-walks, local cultural institute partnerships,
 sponsors, promotion, juries, and yes, prizes among other things. (Beh,
 clarify here please!) As I mentioned before it's a photo contest, not a
 photographer contest.


 Also after spending quite a lot of effort and money, there are more
 expectations on leveraging this for the movement. May be some of these
 people will become passionate Wikimedians and start initiatives to improve
 media about India.


 Yes, and they are answerable to you? Anyway, I must be missing where your
 criticism fills the gap and inspires them.


  Hope the winners will take  action to update their pages soon so that
 the community knows bit about them and their passion for
 Photography/monuments and their approach towards the contest and also few
 words about their winning entry.


 If they choose to mention those details

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

2012-07-31 Thread Béria Lima
Calm Ashwin.

Everyone has the right to say what they think about something (after all we
still live in a democracy). I do understand that he was rude and that
there is more than one way to express frustration and he didn't choose a
good one, but we shouldn't do the same to him or anyone. And more
important, we shouldn't be inviting people to leave the list or
community.

I'm not saying you wrong (and I do agree with the most of what you said)
but let's not push people away.
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On 31 July 2012 09:53, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Abdul,

 You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
 to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
 subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
 not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
 have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
 nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.

 Ashwin Baindur





 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav 
 ramshankarya...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gautam +1


 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:

 Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a
 dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based
 in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which
 to assess it.

  Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows
 several
  of them.

 Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable.

  None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying.

 Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either.

  Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this.
  If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy.

 Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise.
 Myself included.

  yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and
 all the
  nonsense in the community?

 So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the
 prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For
 we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone.

  Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that he
 has
  done is what volunters do.

 Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him.

  he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap.
  the community is still trying to recover.

 But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all
 learn something from that.

  Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have
 anyone
  to blame.

 Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy
 outside mark to blame?

 I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good
 time to air them. We can all learn from them.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Do not donate to Wikipedia

2012-07-09 Thread Béria Lima
Asaf, GAC isn't for Participation grants, I don't know why you throwing
that in the people who disagree. And you said yourself you needed to
consult with WMIN, they are telling a big NO, why you don't refuse the
grant?
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On 9 July 2012 03:00, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 I have responded on the grant talk page.  Let's keep this conversation in
 one place, there:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation_talk:AbhiSuryawanshi/NASA_LARSS_program#Chapter_consultation.3F


 Thanks,

Asaf


 On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 *John:* Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

 *Gautan*: The Grants team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't
 review participation grants.

 *Ravishankar*: If you want to make your concern visible, post on
 Wikimedia mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
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 On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
 participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
 is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
 organisation.

 The grant request page is quite confusing.

 On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org
 wrote:
  On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I
 continue
  to see any such grant.
 
  Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
  read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
  and did fund the grant.
 
  Why are you holding out such a threat?
 
  Thank you.
 
  Best,
 
  Gautam
  
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Do not donate to Wikipedia

2012-07-08 Thread Béria Lima
*John:* Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

*Gautan*: The Grants team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't
review participation grants.

*Ravishankar*: If you want to make your concern visible, post on Wikimedia
mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
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On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
 participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
 is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
 organisation.

 The grant request page is quite confusing.

 On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org
 wrote:
  On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I
 continue
  to see any such grant.
 
  Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
  read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
  and did fund the grant.
 
  Why are you holding out such a threat?
 
  Thank you.
 
  Best,
 
  Gautam
  
  http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] An easy way to improve the spelling and grammar in the Wikipedia in your language

2012-03-17 Thread Béria Lima
Other thing to be said about that (since we are now promoting Mozilla
add-ons)

1. You can install several dictionaries :D (I have for both Portuguese
versions, English, Spanish, French, Italian and German)

2. Since we are all wikipedians and happened at least once with all of use
to lost all our work because the browser crashed, you hit the close
button by mistake, or any other problem, this is a very good add-on which
works on Firefox, Chrome and Safari (but use it on firefox because Firefox
is the best one ;) ). The name is Lazarus, and you can download here (if
you use FF):
https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-PT/firefox/addon/lazarus-form-recovery/ or
here (for the other browsers): http://lazarus.interclue.com/download

3. If you wanna put references on your text in WP, but is too lazy to
format the refs, you can use:
https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-PT/firefox/addon/cite4wiki/

I do have a - very long - list of all addons you can use in your Firefox
(or directly in WP) to make it work with WP easier, if someone needs it
help, just send me a mail off-list.
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On 17 March 2012 17:05, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote:

 Hello, Wikipedians in India,

 This just struck me: There's a very easy way to contribute to the
 Wikipedia in your language and to your language in general, and a lot
 of people are probably not aware of it.

 Here it is: Modern web browsers like Firefox and Google Chrome allow
 you to check the spelling while you type. An important thing that a
 lot of people don't realize is that it works not just in English, but
 in many other languages, too.

 If you use Firefox on Windows, go to this page:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/

 Find the spelling dictionary for your language in the list. Most major
 languages of India already appear there. Some important languages,
 like Kannada and Telugu are not there yet; i'm working on getting them
 there.

 To make it work:

 1. Click Install Dictionary and follow the instructions.
 2. Restart Firefox.
 3. Open some article in the Wikipedia in your language for editing.
 4. Right-click in the editing area.
 5. Make sure that Check spelling is checked.
 6. Right-click again. Go to Languages and make sure that your
 language is checked.

 Now check: Does the spell checking work as you would expect?
 Does it mark incorrect words in red?
 If you right-click words in red, does it offer sensible corrections?

 If all works well, you'll be able to easily fix spelling and grammar
 errors in the Wikipedia in your language. It is an easy way to
 contribute to the Wikipedia in your language, because usually you can
 improve the spelling of articles even without knowing much about the
 subject of the article.

 It is also possible that the dictionary is buggy or has missing words
 and marks correct words in red. If this happens, please write to me
 and i'll do my best to report these words to the maintainer of the
 dictionary, so that in the next version of the dictionary they will be
 checked correctly. (Let me say this again: Please feel free to write
 to me about technical problems in support for your language. I don't
 know any Indic language well, but i'm sure that i'll be able to help
 nevertheless.)

 If you don't use Firefox, you should try it:
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html
 (There's a good chance that there's a version in your language!)

 If you use Firefox on Linux or Mac, a spelling dictionary for your
 language is supposed to be already installed if you installed a
 language pack for your language in the operating system. If you are
 not sure how to do it or if it doesn't work as you expect, please
 write to me.

 Spell checking is supposed to work in Google Chrome, too, but it
 supports less languages and i also found some bugs in its spelling
 functionality. You are still welcome to try it: go to Preferences
 (wrench) - Under the hood - Languages and Spell-checker settings,
 and then add your language.

 I might be wrong, but i don't think that you can install custom
 spelling dictionaries in Microsoft Internet Explorer. If i'm wrong,
 please correct me; if i'm right, then well, that's another reason to
 try Firefox or Chrome :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Deadline for Wikimania submissions is Sunday

2012-03-15 Thread Béria Lima
reminder
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On 15 March 2012 23:26, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Reminder to get your Wikimania program submissions in soon!

 The deadline for submissions is Sunday, March 18 at 11:59 (San Francisco)
 Pacific Daylight Time (or 06:59 UTC on 19 March 2012).

 We seek submissions for presentations, workshops, panels, and other types
 of sessions.

 Topics may include anything related to Wikipedia, MediaWiki  tech (e.g.
 mobile), Wikisource, Wikimedia Commons and other sister projects,
 OpenStreetMap, third-party wikis (e.g. WikiHow), wikis in business,
 government, etc., civic  local wikis, GLAM-wiki and other cultural
 outreach initiatives, education outreach, research into wikis and
 collaboration, and more. These topics are just suggestions.

 You can view the call for participation and make submissions here:

 http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Encyclopaedia Britannica stops the print version

2012-03-14 Thread Béria Lima
Every single edition of Britannica published BEFORE 1942 is public domain.
All the others expire when they get their 70th anniversary of  publication,
which in the 2010 case will be 2080 (very close) ;) ;)
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On 14 March 2012 07:31, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote:

 Just curious to know the copyright status of Encyclopaedia Britannica.
  Those URLs say that the first one was published in 1768 !!!

 And its 2010 edition will be the last in print

 -Sudhanwa


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 http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/pageviews/2012/03/britannica-no-more-wikipedia-wins
 
  Journalists already concluded it is due to Wikipedia
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 in Chittagong

2012-03-14 Thread Béria Lima
But there is one :)
wikimedia...@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd

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On 14 March 2012 11:45, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm, I think there should be a Bangladesh mailing list? Perhaps we can
 know from that.


 Swaroop Rao
 (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch)




 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:59, Adethya Sudarsanan 
 adethyas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All,

 is there any means to know about the events happening in our neighbours
 house?.. like th one Unconference thing in B'desh?

 if there is any, can we have some one representing our India in those
 events..

 Jus a suggestion and curiosity. correct if i am wrong.

 Best,
 Ade.

 On 12 March 2012 11:49, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding a report published by Wikimedia Bangladesh regarding an
 unconference organized in Chittagong.  According to Tanvir, at least 300
 participants attended.

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 From: Tanvir Rahman wikitan...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 in
 Chittagong
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 Hello everyone,

 I am so pleased to announce that Wikimedia Bangladesh, with the help of
 Independent University, Bangladesh, Chittagong, and Bangladesh Open
 Source
 Network, organized the first Bangla Wikipedia Unconference 2012 [1] in
 Chittagong [2] to promote Bangla Wikipedia [3] in Bangladesh. This
 outreach
 event was held in 2 and 3 of March and was attended by around 300
 participants. It was first big-level program of Wikimedia Bangladesh and
 it
 was outside of the Dhaka (the capital) to focus on country-wide outreach.
 We called it an unconference to give it a less formal look and to make
 the appearance more welcoming.

 This two days event was inaugurated by the Chittagong City Mayor and and
 in
 the last it was attended by the Since and Technology minister of
 Bangladesh
 Government. It was also attended by some other popular public figures,
 writers, and university professors, and media personalties. During the
 unconference we had events like workshops, photo exhibition, cultural
 program, seminars, article writing contest, etc. We had several teams
 from
 the schools, colleges, and universities in Chittagong as team
 participants.
 The unconference was hosted by Chittagong campus of Independent
 University,
 Bangladesh. You can see the some of the images of the events in the
 Commons
 category [4].

 Because of the presence of the popular public figures and government
 officials, the event got a significant amount of media coverage in
 national
 print and electronic media. We also even had billboards in the city's
 main
 crossings to let people know about Bangla Wikipedia which was the main
 purpose of this event and current strategic priority of Wikimedia
 Bangladesh.

 Wikimedia Bangladesh wants to thank everyone who supported us. We want to
 thank our sponsors and donors who helped us to arrange this big event. We
 want thank Wikimedia Foundation director Sue Gardner for her nice video
 speech that we screened in the inaugural ceremony. And of course to our
 participants, who eventually made this effort a success. And I apologize
 to
 let you guys know about this event in late. We are still working on
 putting
 everything on wiki.

 Regards,
 Tanvir Rahman
 Wikitanvir on Wikimedia
 Secretary,
 Wikimedia Bangladesh

 [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bangla_Wikipedia_Unconference_2012
 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chittagong
 [3] http://bn.wikipedia.org
 [4]

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Encyclopaedia Britannica stops the print version

2012-03-14 Thread Béria Lima
Probably was one of the templates here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1911_Britannica_templates

As we said, all articles from 1911 edition of Britannica is PD.
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*[image: Inline images 1]*

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On 14 March 2012 12:45, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I believe it already is in the public domain. Back go 2009, when I was
 looking up sources for Transport in India, there was a template
 stating that the article incorporated text from Encyclopedia
 Britanica, which is PD. Not to be confused with the CIA Factbook
 template.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
 Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
 Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

2012-03-13 Thread Béria Lima
I think you didn't understand him   Noopur. He asked you (and i'm quoting):

*Please use as far as possible the category of the regarding
 city/town/village or district (if there's no category) etc., or, a
 localized better 'fitting' i.e. the 'most fitting' category(ies). Do not
 add - in addition - the categories of the parent category, among them
 cities, states and countries etc.*


Or in other words: Don't add a cat and a sub-cat. Like the cake and
birthday cake case, you only need to put in one, so if is a Birthday Cake,
use only this category. People who want to see a birthday cake and get to
category Cake, will have a link to the sub cat.

Same goes to categories like  India - state - city - event. If the event is
in city X (Let's use Delhi for example) you don't need to add as well the
cat for the city, state and Country in the image. That is called over
categorization.

But if you have a birthday cake for a party in Delhi in the event (again
example): Wikipedia 10. You can - and you should - add the cat to the
event  AND the category for the cake.

If you wanna see an example of a image with several categories but not
overcategorized you can see this one for example:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:B%C3%A9ria_at_Bom_Jesus_do_Monte.jpgwho
have 6 categories, but none is subcat of  another.
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On 13 March 2012 15:24, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Beria,

 Here is the message this user left:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noopur28#Your_uploads_in_December_2011.2C_referring_to_India_:_Categorisation


 My logic for adding 3-4 categories was that people usually search by
 keywords and not inside larger categories. So I would add around 3-4
 categories. But, then this user told me to stick to larger parent
 categories. I am still unsure which is a better way so I stick to only
 India or a state category now.


 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who asked you that and why?

 You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
 redundant (Like add the categories Cakes and Bithday cakes to the same
 image).

 I would like the message when someone asked you that
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 *[image: Inline images 1]*

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 On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

  All help is welcome,
 these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
 they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
 one you can create those and add the cat to these files.

 Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories.
 I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.


 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
 We kept
  the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
 was
  decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us
 really got
  around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning
 up.
  There are several reasons for this:

 It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
 migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
 [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
 and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
 these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
 they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
 one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
 expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
 power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
 help you out with that.

 We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
 [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
 make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.

 
  1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
 to make
  Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.

 Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
 images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
 [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).

 
  2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
  migrated

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...

2012-02-28 Thread Béria Lima
So, I have nothing to do with the problem in hands - and I'm not even
Indian, by the contrary, I born in the other side of the world - but there
is one thing i needed to answer (bold is mine).

*Srikanth Lakshmanan* said: *In short, when going to a college, keep your
 expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If
 something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian
 conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting
 certain things as Indian reality.*


I also live in a country with that *
**laissez-faire*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faireculture,
and I can tell you right away: If we don't try to change that will
never change!

It is easy? No, the whole culture stands against us - I don't know how it
is in India (I've never been there and I'm still hope I will be invited to
the second WCI to finally go to India) - but in Brazil, if you ask them to
change something they will start with a we did this way for years talk,
to the bare minimum.

The good thing is: we are in a very good position to change those things:
We are young (at least I am! ;) ) and we are in college - most of us anyway
- so WE are the college kids who plan conferences and etc. If we can change
things in our own college we would have contributed to change that Indian
reality.

That won't change the experience Sohan and Srikanth had, but will avoid
other people to go though what they did.

Again, sorry for the almost completely OT mail,
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On 28 February 2012 09:48, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar 
 sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote:


 The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the
 internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors
 presentation in the same time slot as ours.


 This is bad. You asked for / were given only 1 hour slot? that too with
 out a lab / proper internet? #fail. What is the point of signing MoU and
 all for this. Even if this 1 hour / rest of the stuff went well, I wonder
 if it makes sense for 2 persons to travel for 12+ hours / spend a weekend
 to talk for 1 hour. Anyone else who feels it makes sense, please enlighten
 me. Last year we spent 8+ hours on stall, 2.5 hours on the academy part.
 (Effectiveness is totally another thing)


 Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student
 should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T
 organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star
 type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a
 week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the
 venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the
 WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour.


 Courtesy could have been better, but facilities may not always be (Esp in
 tier 2 cities). So please try and adjust (if you were asked to travel in
 public transport). Yes, they do/might treat you like they are doing you a
 favour(I don't see why they would really care), in fact they actually do
 *some* favour in giving space for us. The interest you (I barely know you
 btw) and I have towards Wikipedia might not be same any organizer at these
 events will have. They might have extra interest on swags etc. Most Tech
 fests are not run/attended by students with noble intentions of learning
 something technical etc.(At best they learn team work, organizational
 skills) I said part of the statement about attendees on this list here[1]

 In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum
 be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate,
 otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be
 ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality.

 [1]
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006554.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-01-31 Thread Béria Lima
Cross posting
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On 31 January 2012 22:05, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Wikimedia chapters are seeking to appoint two candidates to sit on the
 Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees for two years, starting 1 July
 2012. The two new members of the board will help to decide the future
 direction of the world’s leading non-profit website. Wikimedia project are
 constructed by hundreds of thousands of volunteers worldwide, supported by
 a growing number of staff and an international network of chapters. Board
 membership is unpaid.

 The chapters wish to appoint two excellent board members and believe this
 can best be achieved by selecting from a large number of varied and skilled
 candidates. Therefore, the chapters call for nominations by everyone who
 believes they or someone they know would be suitable. The chapters ask that
 this call for candidates be distributed as widely as possible through such
 forums as mailing lists, village pumps, and blogs.

 The successful candidates will be committed to the Wikimedia mission and
 willing and able to engage constructively with the stakeholders of the
 movement, including the volunteers and the chapters that provide it with
 essential support. The successful candidates will have:

- The ability to provide expertise to the board in its goal of
implementing a coherent vision on how the projects’ communities, the
foundation, the chapters, and other affiliated groups work together;


- Sensitivity to complex issues surrounding the multiplicity of
languages, cultures, and jurisdictions served by the foundation’s projects;


- Knowledge and understanding of the governance of international
non-profit organizations, balancing autonomy and subsidiarity;


- The ability to think strategically and to work both as part of a
team and independently;


- A good standard of written and oral English (fluency in additional
language would be well regarded);


- Sufficient time to devote to the role of board member, and the
ability and willingness to travel.

 Increasing the geographical diversity of current board membership would be
 an advantage.

 The selection process is set out 
 here:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats

 Nominations must be sent to the moderator Béria Lima (Wikimedia Portugal)
 and deputy moderators Milos Rancic (Wikimedia Serbia) and Mardetanha
 (Wikimedia steward from Iran) by 23:59 UTC, 29 February. If you would like
 to nominate yourself or someone else, please see the instructions here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats/2012/Nominate

 *Béria Lima*,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] REMINDER: Wikimania 2013 - invitation to bid

2012-01-24 Thread Béria Lima
Not of my business what you do in India, but here is my 2 cents.

I think that a nacional Conference for India is a HUGE job (Comming for a
country that is equaly huge, I can imagine the several logistic problems to
deslocate people from one city to another).

So my suggestion is to make several mini-confereces organized by state
(India is organized by states, right?) like the series of Wikipedia
Academies. That will teach local teams all around India to organize small
conferences (not bigger than 100 people) and minimize costs and problems.
You can always have a nacional conference once every 2 years or so.
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On 24 January 2012 20:46, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I appreciate the wise decision from Indian Wikipedia community to opt out
 of Wikimania bid until next few years.

 Even Wikiconference India need not be an annual event considering the
 amount of human and financial resources spent on it. What we need is
 strengthening local communities in each language and city by means of more
 meetups, unconferences, outreach, on project activity and events with
 specific goals like hackathons.

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] REMINDER: Wikimania 2013 - invitation to bid

2012-01-23 Thread Béria Lima
Since we have not one, but two bids from India,  I think that is important
to be announced here (I would rather prefer if all of you could work
together in a single bid, but if is not possible, at least list both under
the right section in the page)
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On 23 January 2012 23:15, Thomas Goldammer tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 I want to remind everyone to officially start a bid for the locale of
 Wikimania 2013. All bids made so far are *unofficial* and cannot be
 considered, as long as they are not in the list of official bids on
 this page:

   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids

 The possibility to make an official bid closes at ***January 28, 23:59
 UTC***, this is in less than five days! So hurry up if you want
 Wikimania to happen at your place. :)

 Note that you then have two more months to make your actual bid (and
 one more month to refine it). You don't need to have everything
 completely ready by now, so don't worry. :) For now, just create the
 bid page and list it under Official bids. Please don't forget to
 list your organizing team members on the bid page. (All of them should
 enable their email function on the Meta wiki, so that we can reach all
 of you easily.)

 On behalf of the jury
 Thomas.
 (User:Thogo)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
Tinu, can I FW to my chapter list (is also a closed list)?
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On 17 January 2012 04:08, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:


 *The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?*
 ( Article by Achal Prabhala)


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0
 ( Single Page Version)
 *
 In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind
 published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His
 inspiration was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and
 science-fiction pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a
 mathematical nightmare of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The
 writer was Jorge Luis Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking
 off from the mythical Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction)
 spawned a minor publishing industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a
 happy place: its chronically overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish
 cults periodically vandalised the books, people spent lifetimes searching
 for a catalogue without success, and — wondrous as it all was — no one
 expected to find anything useful there ever.

 Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a
 cautionary tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at
 their word. When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect
 search engine, he is reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of
 God.” Preposterous, yes; but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to
 adopt this as a mission statement would do well to have a cold shower, and
 heed Borges’ conclusion on the topic — “The library is unlimited and
 cyclical”.

 Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations
 of the desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the
 pre-biblical city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical
 Tower of Babel; a bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In
 the present day, we are no closer to knowing everything, but we have
 Wikipedia: a bustling website where diverse people from everywhere in the
 world create miracles. Wikipedia’s humility is the flip-side to its
 success, and it comes from wanting to be precisely the opposite of the
 total library: call it a perpetually partial library, if you will. No one
 who has spent even a minute contributing anything to it would dare assume
 that the job is done, the perspective complete, or the game won.

 Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and
 Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright
 licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually
 anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source
 software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the
 underlying software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this
 time, the benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were
 apparent, and it was extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and
 images. Wikipedia was among the early exponents of this free culture
 experiment, quickly followed by sister projects of the Wikimedia
 Foundation: Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.

 Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s
 wildest expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website —
 and the sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our
 online landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries
 like India and South Africa, among several other places, who are helping us
 discover that learning does not have to be a passive act, and that the
 value of generosity can be productive and revolutionary at once.

 Interestingly enough, it was about a hundred years ago that a young,
 idealistic lawyer set off on a similar journey. Affected by colonialism in
 his home, India, and faced with debilitating segregation laws in his
 adopted home, South Africa, he saw the productive and revolutionary
 potential in generous knowledge. Over a long sea journey from London to
 Cape Town, he wrote down his ideas on self-determination and independence.
 The young lawyer was, of course, Gandhi, and his book, Hind Swaraj, would
 go on to become the intellectual blueprint for the Indian freedom movement.
 The original was written in Gujarati in 1909. One year later, it was
 translated into English and published as Indian Home Rule. On the cover of
 the first edition of this English translation is a prominent, if unusual,
 copyright legend. It reads

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher (
The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the content
further. The information is only shared only with an internal community who
have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly acknowledged.*
(bold is mine)

Anyway, thanks to both of you :D
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On 17 January 2012 10:28, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Beria, you dont need to ask - please go ahead :)

 --
 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:27:06 -0200
 From: berial...@gmail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?


 Tinu, can I FW to my chapter list (is also a closed list)?
 _
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 On 17 January 2012 04:08, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:


 *The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?*
 ( Article by Achal Prabhala)


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0
 ( Single Page Version)
 *
 In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind
 published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His
 inspiration was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and
 science-fiction pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a
 mathematical nightmare of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The
 writer was Jorge Luis Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking
 off from the mythical Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction)
 spawned a minor publishing industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a
 happy place: its chronically overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish
 cults periodically vandalised the books, people spent lifetimes searching
 for a catalogue without success, and — wondrous as it all was — no one
 expected to find anything useful there ever.

 Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a
 cautionary tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at
 their word. When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect
 search engine, he is reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of
 God.” Preposterous, yes; but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to
 adopt this as a mission statement would do well to have a cold shower, and
 heed Borges’ conclusion on the topic — “The library is unlimited and
 cyclical”.

 Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations
 of the desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the
 pre-biblical city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical
 Tower of Babel; a bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In
 the present day, we are no closer to knowing everything, but we have
 Wikipedia: a bustling website where diverse people from everywhere in the
 world create miracles. Wikipedia’s humility is the flip-side to its
 success, and it comes from wanting to be precisely the opposite of the
 total library: call it a perpetually partial library, if you will. No one
 who has spent even a minute contributing anything to it would dare assume
 that the job is done, the perspective complete, or the game won.

 Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and
 Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright
 licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually
 anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source
 software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the
 underlying software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this
 time, the benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were
 apparent, and it was extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and
 images. Wikipedia was among the early exponents of this free culture
 experiment, quickly followed by sister projects of the Wikimedia
 Foundation: Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.

 Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s
 wildest expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website —
 and the sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our
 online landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries
 like India

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
oh common, we don't need to start a cruzade because of this. Isn't that big
deal
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On 17 January 2012 11:17, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Actually I do because there is a note: Important Note : The publisher (
  The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of
 the
  article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content
  further. The information is only shared only with an internal community
 who
  have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.
  (bold is mine)


 When we forward the emails with the above note, to other technical
 mailing lists,
 they scold me for forwarding the copyrighted material.

 I do not see any info on copyright or have to put a footnote like
 above in any of the news websites.

 I request Tinu to remove the footnote or just share the links and some
 snippet.

 Thanks.


 
 
  You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might
  not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on the
  same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all this
  obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since when
  people in India thought of copyright seriously.
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
/me is proud of being indian too





Oh, I forgot I'm not indian! ;)
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On 17 January 2012 12:23, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Srikanth,

 There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people
 were/are following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There
 is no need to make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are
 Indians and we should be proud of that.


 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org

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 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?



 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher (
 The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
 the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
 this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
 when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
I have a blue Brazilian one, is good enough? (At least is the same colour
;) )
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On 17 January 2012 12:50, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 You don't have the blue Indian passport yet.

 :p

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 /me is proud of being indian too





 Oh, I forgot I'm not indian! ;)
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 On 17 January 2012 12:23, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 Srikanth,

 There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people
 were/are following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There
 is no need to make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are
 Indians and we should be proud of that.


 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org

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 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?



 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher
 ( The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
 the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
 this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
 when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

2011-12-25 Thread Béria Lima
And what you want us (Commons Admins) to do Sudhanwa? Delete all picture
with a naked person in it? That didn't go well the last time someone tryed
( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Sexual_content/Archive_3 ).

and btw, why just  nude people? Muhammed are forbidden by Muslins laws and
we have http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Depictions_of_Muhammad(not
to mention that 2/3 of
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Muhammed are drawings and pictures) .
Should we delete this too?
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On 25 December 2011 17:16, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it possible to talk to Blue Coat and remove commons from their
 blacklist.
 btw, there are pictures on commons that can easily go in the porn category.
 Some serious admin work is needed there.

 -Sudhanwa



 On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I spent the afternoon doing some research on this matter [on my
 phone], and learnt that it isn't the network admin who has blocked the
 site. The so called security software, Blue Coat, in this case, tags
 the Commons as Media download site. So blocking sites in this
 category, blocks Commons, Flickr, YouTube, Vimeo, MetaCafe, etc.
 Similarily, there are some which categorise the Commons as
 'Pornography' ...

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

2011-12-25 Thread Béria Lima
And again: We can 't act against the community. If you Community doesn't
speak up, we can't do anything. And btw, even the porn article deserve a
picture, no?
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On 25 December 2011 18:43, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:

 Its your call Commons Admins.
 There is some (hidden and very thin ) dividing line between porn and naked.

 I am told that in some Middleeast countries, where there are restrictions
 on webcontent, Wikipedia is also used by youngsters for porn/naked
 (whatever you feel correct) pictures/content.

 I don't have any knowledge of the previous threads. Its your(admins) call
 ultimately.
 -Sudhanwa


 On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 And what you want us (Commons Admins) to do Sudhanwa? Delete all picture
 with a naked person in it? That didn't go well the last time someone tryed
 ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Sexual_content/Archive_3).

 and btw, why just  nude people? Muhammed are forbidden by Muslins laws
 and we have
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Depictions_of_Muhammad (not
 to mention that 2/3 of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Muhammed are
 drawings and pictures) . Should we delete this too?
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 On 25 December 2011 17:16, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it possible to talk to Blue Coat and remove commons from their
 blacklist.
 btw, there are pictures on commons that can easily go in the porn
 category.
 Some serious admin work is needed there.

 -Sudhanwa



 On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I spent the afternoon doing some research on this matter [on my
 phone], and learnt that it isn't the network admin who has blocked the
 site. The so called security software, Blue Coat, in this case, tags
 the Commons as Media download site. So blocking sites in this
 category, blocks Commons, Flickr, YouTube, Vimeo, MetaCafe, etc.
 Similarily, there are some which categorise the Commons as
 'Pornography' ...

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 Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
 Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 13th.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
 Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pre-announcement for Wikiwomen camp/conference in Argentina

2011-12-19 Thread Béria Lima
More info can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp(feel free to ask the
organizers any question - the  mails are in the page)
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On 19 December 2011 16:36, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats. It seems like a great initiative, Noopur. :)

 I saw Beria was working on the pages for this on Meta. Good luck!

 Regards
 Theo


 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Just keeping you posted if you haven't seen the IRC log yet. A couple of
 women Wikipedians from Australia and Argentina chapters have been planning
 a Wikiwomen camp and conference in Argentina sometime in May, 2012. I know
 it's far away and probably the official announcement will happen sometime
 end of this month but I thought it's wise to keep you posted so that you
 can keep your respective Indic language women editors in loop.
 Those who might be interested in participating will have to apply for a
 WMF participation grant I guess and they might want to join the discussion
 on the other list to add Indian inputs. One part of the event (Camp)
 encourages women's participation only while the other invites all to
 contribute. Please do spread the word and encourage our Wikichix to
 participate too :) Drop me a mail if you want to join that mailing list.
 Warmly
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Internal-l] Community Fellowships open call

2011-12-08 Thread Béria Lima
Sent to Foundation-L, might be useful for someone here.
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On 7 December 2011 20:45, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Dear colleagues,

 WMF is now seeking fellowship applicants and project ideas for the Community
 Fellowships Program http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships.
 Community members from all Wikimedia projects and all languages are
 strongly encouraged to apply by the deadline of January 15th 2012!  Could
 you please help spread the word by sharing this open call in your
 communities?

 Wikimedia Community Fellows are spearheading community projects,
 undertaking research, and piloting new models for engagement to help scale
 and increase sustainability of volunteer work in the Wikimedia movement.
 The Foundation provides intensive, time-limited financial and logistical
 support for fellows to focus on projects of strategic importance.
 Submissions for Spring 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of
 improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia
 Projects.

 If you'd like to work with WMF on projects to boost participation and
 retention, or know someone who should be recommended for a fellowship, or
 if you've got ideas for a fellowship project WMF could support, we'd like
 to hear from you!  Please visit
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships, or contact Siko
 Bouterse at sboute...@wikimedia.org for more information.

 (Note: I'll be circulating on other lists as well, including some chapter
 mailing lists, in hopes of reaching a broad range of applicants - apologies
 in advance for cross-posting!)

 Best regards,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Internal-l] Community Fellowships open call

2011-12-08 Thread Béria Lima
Well, is on the page: *A fellowship is a temporary position at the
Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of
projects. Fellowships can be awarded for periods as short as 2 months and
as long as 12 months. Duration is determined by the scope of the fellow's
project.*

Being a Community Fellow means that your project falls into the Community
Department of WMF.

In a nutshell: If anyone wants to apply for, they need a project to help
the community (not necessary to be the Global one) until 15 Jan and this
project need to be approved by WMF.
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On 8 December 2011 12:10, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't understand. What are community fellowships for?

 On 08/12/2011, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:
  Sent to Foundation-L, might be useful for someone here.
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  (351) 963 953 042
 
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  construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
  On 7 December 2011 20:45, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
  Dear colleagues,
 
  WMF is now seeking fellowship applicants and project ideas for the
  Community
  Fellowships Program
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships.
  Community members from all Wikimedia projects and all languages are
  strongly encouraged to apply by the deadline of January 15th 2012!
  Could
  you please help spread the word by sharing this open call in your
  communities?
 
  Wikimedia Community Fellows are spearheading community projects,
  undertaking research, and piloting new models for engagement to help
 scale
  and increase sustainability of volunteer work in the Wikimedia movement.
  The Foundation provides intensive, time-limited financial and logistical
  support for fellows to focus on projects of strategic importance.
  Submissions for Spring 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of
  improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia
  Projects.
 
  If you'd like to work with WMF on projects to boost participation and
  retention, or know someone who should be recommended for a fellowship,
 or
  if you've got ideas for a fellowship project WMF could support, we'd
 like
  to hear from you!  Please visit
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships, or contact Siko
  Bouterse at sboute...@wikimedia.org for more information.
 
  (Note: I'll be circulating on other lists as well, including some
 chapter
  mailing lists, in hopes of reaching a broad range of applicants -
  apologies
  in advance for cross-posting!)
 
  Best regards,
 
  --
  Siko Bouterse
  Head of Community Fellowships
  Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
 
  sboute...@wikimedia.org
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia XI 2012

2011-12-04 Thread Béria Lima
https://market.android.com/details?id=nl.michiel1972.main (still beta, but
works fine)
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On 4 December 2011 19:10, Abhilash abhilashu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is there an APK or App in the Android Market, which I can use to upload
 pictures directly to creative commons from my Android Phone?

 Sorry for this naive question, what is uploadwizard, is that a desktop
 application alone, do we have a similar Android App, or Can I customize or
 is there available any of the photo uploaders which I can use?

 Abhi


 On 04-Dec-2011 10:10 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:

 Bala,
  I was wondering, if we could organise a scanvenger hunt in Kovai on the
 15th of Jan ???
 --

 On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
 srik@gmail.comwrote:



  On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:17, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I thought this is similar to a photowalk, where people instead of
 meeting in a room go around and take pics. I stand corrected.


  Even for a photowalk, customizing the uploadwizard will be good.
 Generally people upload elsewhere, never upload since people dont return to
 a room and sit / upload (unless there is a conscious meetup
 happening).  There was a Chennai photowalk which failed on this part, and
 people met, clicked pics, but many never came online(30 pics came from 15
 people for a whole day of hunt). HPN did some photowalks in Bangalore /
 Mysore, he had a better upload rate, though am not sure if everyone had
 uploaded every pic they clicked.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-12-02 Thread Béria Lima
Tory, my impression or none of the interviews are with people from WM India?
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On 2 December 2011 07:44, Tory Read t...@toryread.com wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 I cc'd the three of you on this because I suddenly stopped getting my
 digests from the India list 2 days ago, and I want to make sure my message
 is properly posted. I'd also like to know how to get my digests reinstated.
 Thanks,
 Tory

 Sent from my mobile

 On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Tory Read t...@toryread.com wrote:

  Hi Folks,
 
  My apologies for not replying sooner. I am on the ground in India, doing
 in person interviews, while juggling communication on email, talk pages,
 skype, etc.
 
  Here is a summary of what I have been up to:
  20 hours in US reviewing talk pages and email list communication
 regarding IEP
  Interviews so far, in order in which they were done (in person, unless
 otherwise noted):
  - Barry Newstead, WMF SF
  - Frank Schulenburg, WMF SF
  - Annie Lin, WMF SF
  - LiAnna Davis, WMF SF
  - Hisham Mundol, WMF India
  - Nitika Tandon, WMF India
  - Shiju Alex, WMF India
  - Ram Shankar Yadav, CA Pune
  - Ishita Ghosh, professor, SSE, Pune
  - informal conversation with 2 SSE students and 2 CAs over lunch in Pune
  - Rashmi Barua, SSE student
  - Devanchi Tripathi, SSE student and CA
  - Ashwin Baindur, Mandar Kulkarni (Pune WP community members) and
 Sudhanwa Jogalekar (OSM friend of WP, Pune), group interview over dinner
  - Abhilasha Sharma, SSE student
  - Anushikha Benazur, SSE student
  - Dr. Jyoti Chandiramani, SSE Director
  - 3 more SSE students, informal conversation over lunch
  - Debanjan Bandyopadhyay, CA SSE
  - Radha Misra, professor, SNDT Women's College, Pune
  - Shweta Shinde, student, COEP
  - Gautam Akiwate, student, COEP
  - informal conversation with 3 CAs and 1 student, COEP
  - Dr. Anil V. Sahasrabudhe, Director, COEP
  - Dr. Pradeep Waychal, professor, COEP
  - Kudpung, WP Admin (skype video)
  - Srikanth Lakshmanan, WP editor, OA for IEP (skype audio)
  - Hisham Mundol, WMF India (telephone)
 

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-BD] Geographical distribution of Indian Wikipedians

2011-11-22 Thread Béria Lima
Why not use a map like the ones in
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:CW ,
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Cartografia_dos_Wikipedistas/Brasiland
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Cartografia_dos_Wikipedistas/Portugal?

There are a similar map to India here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India_78.40398E_20.74980N.jpg (if
you don't want to use a satelite image there is a locator map:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-locator-map-blank.svg and a
map with the states of India here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-map-en.svg /
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-map-en.png )
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On 22 November 2011 12:20, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Please add your name in the below link

 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Geographical_distribution_of_Indian_Wikipedians

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] INR in 2011 Fundraising!! -- Finally

2011-11-12 Thread Béria Lima
Achal appeal is here:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHA

The other one is a text for the banner (it seems) because has no appeal
associate to it.
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On 12 November 2011 07:13, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Already possible to see Indian people in the banners (they at least were
 doing test with)

 Achal:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=B_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHAL

 Srikeit Tadepalli:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=B_Srikeit_BaseBanner


 Clicked the link but couldn't read the appeals though. Have others read
 them?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] INR in 2011 Fundraising!! -- Finally

2011-11-12 Thread Béria Lima
Sorry, wrong link. the right one is:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHAL/en
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On 12 November 2011 10:18, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Achal appeal is here:
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHA

 The other one is a text for the banner (it seems) because has no appeal
 associate to it.
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 On 12 November 2011 07:13, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Already possible to see Indian people in the banners (they at least were
 doing test with)

 Achal:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=B_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHAL

 Srikeit Tadepalli:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=B_Srikeit_BaseBanner


 Clicked the link but couldn't read the appeals though. Have others read
 them?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mails getting queued

2011-11-12 Thread Béria Lima
Mark the senders as whitelisted - worked with WMPT mailing list when we
had this
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On 12 November 2011 15:57, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 15:15, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:

 For some reasons, lot of mails are getting queued for Message has a
 suspicious header and needs manual approval since yesterday(which is why
 you might have noted emails coming in bulk). Please note there will be
 delay in delivery of mails on list. Let me check if there is a bug already
 / file one with ops. Thanks.


 There was a bug filed last month[1] and I do not have great confidence of
 it being resolved any sooner. Should we move on to google groups or self
 hosted mailman if WMF cant support it? I / other moderators cant keep
 moderating mails forever and its a pain for both sender as well as
 moderators.

 [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31797

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] INR in 2011 Fundraising!! -- Finally

2011-11-11 Thread Béria Lima
Already possible to see Indian people in the banners (they at least were
doing test with)

Achal:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=B_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHAL

Srikeit Tadepalli:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=B_Srikeit_BaseBanner
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On 11 November 2011 19:17, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:


 *We might be late this year, next year probably we could have Shiju /
 Santhosh / Hisham instead of Brandon on the Sitenotice banner :D ;) ;)*

 Nice thought!

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
 srik@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello all,

 As most of you have known, Fundraising for 2011 have started. The one big
 change is INR is added to list of currencies along with atleast ~40 other
 currencies it seems. As such option is present only for credit cards, heard
 debit cards might get added in a week and inquiries are on for adding
 netbanking as well. If you have any suggestions specific to India, please
 use the local testing talk page[1]. Now that we have INR in currency,
 please help translate[2] into as many Indic languages.

 We might be late this year, next year probably we could have Shiju /
 Santhosh / Hisham instead of Brandon on the Sitenotice banner :D ;) ;)

 [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2011/Local_testing/IN
 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Translation

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Participation Grants

2011-11-08 Thread Béria Lima
As request by Asaf in Internal (sorry for the cross-posting)
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On 7 November 2011 23:10, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 I am pleased to announce a new grants program available to Wikimedia
 community members worldwide: the Wikimedia Participation Grants program.
  Read all about it in our blog post:
 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/05/enabling-worldwide-participation/

 Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] [Wikimedia-in-hyd] Indic Languages: Shiju Alex

2011-10-02 Thread Béria Lima

 *Sorry, I did not notice it. BTW, Telugu wikipedia  team  uses
 teluguw...@googlegroups.com.*


Why isn't a normal mailing list? Create a bug for it (here are three
examples: creation of
Wikiconference-indiahttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29487,
creation of 
Wikimedia-blrhttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24454and
creation
of wikiml-l https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15012)
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On 2 October 2011 04:18, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I will suggest forwarding to respective language wiki mailing list, in
 addition to city mailing lists to reach the target audience.


 Arjuna, This is already done. The mail is sent to various Indic language
 lists also.

 Sorry, I did not notice it. BTW, Telugu wikipedia  team  uses
 teluguw...@googlegroups.com.

 Cheers
 Arjun


 Shiju

 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Shiju,


 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Dear Indic wikimedians,

 Thank you very much for the welcome messages and for making me feel at
 home.

 Over the past few years I have interacted with many of you for the
 various Indic Wiki related activities and we have done many successful
 projects. Thank you very much for all those wonderful projects. Now when we
 are moving to a different phase of growth of Wikimedia in India, I request
 more support from your side.

 To get started we shall together develop a plan for Indic language wikis
 and design few pilot projects to gain learnings to drive growth. I propose
 to develop this plan collaboratively and openly - in true wiki style.  This
 will include focused Indic language meetups, virtual meetings, desk 
 research
 and constantly synthesizing the findings from all of these into learnings.
 These learnings will then flow into pilots that we will implement and 
 review
 and learn from.


 For this purpose, I will be using the following page
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages.
 It is very preliminary right now - but will keep updating it.  The page 
 will
 give you a flavor of the kind of process and methodology I plan to use - 
 and
 also give you a hint of the end output.  However, I stress that is nothing
 more than a stub right now. So please provide your suggestions.

 --cut--



 Nice to see the detailed approach.
 I will suggest forwarding to respective language wiki mailing list, in
 addition to city mailing lists to reach the target audience.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Using Wikimedia Mailing lists

2011-10-02 Thread Béria Lima
Sending to Wikitech because if someone has an answer you will find in that
list ;)
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On 2 October 2011 11:15, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Changed the Subject line.


 Arjuna and I were discussing the below issue that Beria pointed out.

 But as Arjuna said, some of the important features like searchability of
 archives, stats, and so on  are missing in the mail man. As per my
 understanding this is one of the reason given by Telugu and Marathi wiki
 communities for not moving to Wikimedia list. I am just wondering whether it
 is possible to include these features in mail man. At least the search
 option which is very vital for groups is a must for wikimedia lists.

 Shiju

 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Sorry, I did not notice it. BTW, Telugu wikipedia  team  uses
 teluguw...@googlegroups.com.*


 Why isn't a normal mailing list? Create a bug for it (here are three
 examples: creation of 
 Wikiconference-indiahttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29487,
 creation of 
 Wikimedia-blrhttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24454and 
 creation
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 On 2 October 2011 04:18, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I will suggest forwarding to respective language wiki mailing list, in
 addition to city mailing lists to reach the target audience.


 Arjuna, This is already done. The mail is sent to various Indic language
 lists also.

 Sorry, I did not notice it. BTW, Telugu wikipedia  team  uses
 teluguw...@googlegroups.com.

 Cheers
 Arjun


 Shiju

 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiju,


 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Dear Indic wikimedians,

 Thank you very much for the welcome messages and for making me feel at
 home.

 Over the past few years I have interacted with many of you for the
 various Indic Wiki related activities and we have done many successful
 projects. Thank you very much for all those wonderful projects. Now when 
 we
 are moving to a different phase of growth of Wikimedia in India, I 
 request
 more support from your side.

 To get started we shall together develop a plan for Indic language
 wikis and design few pilot projects to gain learnings to drive growth. I
 propose to develop this plan collaboratively and openly - in true wiki
 style.  This will include focused Indic language meetups, virtual 
 meetings,
 desk research and constantly synthesizing the findings from all of these
 into learnings.  These learnings will then flow into pilots that we will
 implement and review and learn from.


 For this purpose, I will be using the following page
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages.
 It is very preliminary right now - but will keep updating it.  The page 
 will
 give you a flavor of the kind of process and methodology I plan to use - 
 and
 also give you a hint of the end output.  However, I stress that is 
 nothing
 more than a stub right now. So please provide your suggestions.

 --cut--



 Nice to see the detailed approach.
 I will suggest forwarding to respective language wiki mailing list, in
 addition to city mailing lists to reach the target audience.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: Wikimedia India - AGM and Election Results

2011-09-25 Thread Béria Lima
That shouldn't be annouced in Internal-l?
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On 25 September 2011 19:42, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Tinu has already expressed everything that I wanted to say.

 So, in the typical wikipedia style, I will just say +1 to Tinu's mail. :-)

 Thanks to all of you for your support and encouragement !!

 Best regards
 -Sudhanwa

 On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:55 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
  I would like to thank everyone who had supported and encouraged us to
 take
  up this position. I would also like to thank the outgoing EC members for
  their hard work and leadership especially during the most difficult
 times.
  My hearty congratulations to the other newly elected members, Naveen and
  Sudhanwa.
  We understand the enormity of the tasks that lie ahead and we hope to
 live
  up to the expectations.
  For those you couldn't make it to the committee, this does mean that your
  valuable contributions are going unappreciated or undermined. What more
 was
  important was our participation  willingness to stand up and support the
  movement than winning this elections. I would sincerely request you to
  continue supporting  helping the chapter, regardless of official
 position
  or not.
  Building the wiki community in India remains our top most priority,
 working
  along with the Foundation , India office and the vibrant Wiki community
 of
  India.
  We are strongly committed to the smooth functioning of the Wikiconference
  Mumbai and extends our continued full support both as a part of the board
  and individual capacities.
  We understand that the journey from here is not going to be easy but we
 can
  reach better success with your continued support and encouragement.
  Thanks again.
  Regards
  Tinu Cherian
 
  On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org
  wrote:
 
  Hello Everyone:
 
  Just to say that the AGM is over as are the EC Elections. The results
  are as below:
 
  Naveen Francis
  Sudhanwa Jogalekar
  Tinu Cherian
 
  More here along with the reports presented:
  http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Announcements/AGM_and_EC_Elections
 
  We'd like to thank the Nominations Committee and everyone else who
  contributed to making this a success.
 
  Thank you.
 
  Best,
 
  Gautam
  
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Copyright Violations by (some) Students: Wikipedia India Education Program

2011-09-12 Thread Béria Lima
There are another way (who works fine in Brazilian program): Treat then as
adults they are and the articles as projects. If I cheat in a project in any
college in Brazil my professor would give me a zero. In some brazilians
college I may be expelled for do that (without count the fact that is also a
crime in Brazil). We (and they) need to realize how serious copyright
violations are.

But to make sure,  i'm not saying you people to threat your students, but to
make them realize how serious that is.
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acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


On 12 September 2011 08:46, Hisham Mundol hmun...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi Folks

 (Some) students in the Pune pilot have copy-pasted copyright material onto
 their articles.  We are taking these copyvios extremely seriously and here's
 a summary of the action that we have taken.

 a) Conducted classroom sessions in all 3 colleges where the program is
 running and conveying the importance of not making this mistake - and the
 fact that they will be caught - and that too quickly.  Between Nitika and I,
 we've conducted sessions in at least 10 separate classes last week (along
 with Campus Ambassadors.)
 b) Conducted meetings with the directors and faculty members to convey the
 gravity of the issue and asking them to pass on the message to their
 students in the strongest possible terms.
 c) Almost doubling the number of Campus Ambassadors to provide more
 on-ground support for students.  We will be sending out an update on this
 soon.  The issue of copyvios was taken up specifically during the training
 for these Campus Ambassadors.
 d) Started work on establishing an Online Ambassador program (
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004299.html)
 to provide additional support
 e) Disabled the leaderboard (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Leaderboard) so
 that we make sure that recognition is given only to deserving students.

 Controlling the copyvio issue is the single biggest issue for the program
 and we will continue to do everything it takes to minimize it.  Of course,
 some students who will still try and cut corners and the actions listed
 above should hopefully reduce the problem.

 Having said all this, we must not cloud the fantastic work of many students
 by the errors committed by (some) newbies who are unfamiliar with Wikipedia.
  Do continue to support and celebrate the work of the good guys!

 Thank you for you continued support on this.

 Best

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Call for Translations - Registration Banner

2011-09-11 Thread Béria Lima
Hi people (sorry for the cross posting)

We need to have the Registration
bannerhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=WCI_Registrationtranslated
into as many languages as possible. Any of you who can help
please list your translations in
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Beria/WCI_banner_translation. Is just a
2 min translation!

Thanks in advance for your help :)
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] STOP EMAIL TO Y. G. NEVREKAR. RE: Academy. Workshop and Mumbai Meetup - September/October schedule

2011-09-03 Thread Béria Lima
If you don't want to receive mails from us, please go to
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l and follow the
instructions to unsubscribe.
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On 3 September 2011 07:46, yeshavant nevrekar yeshav...@live.in wrote:

  1.  SIR, I HAD MADE SOME INQUIRY REGARDING LECTURE IN UR PROGRAMS BUT
 SAME NOT POSSIBLE.

 2. I AM NOW GETTING DAILY OVER 20 EMAILS FROM WIKIMEDIA MEMBERS. I AM NOT
 MEMBER AND WISH ALL U KINDLY STOP EMAILS TO ME AS I HAVE NO CONCERN WITH
 THEM.

 3. KINDLY ADVISE ALL UR MEMBERS AND OBLIGE.

 THANK U

 YESHAVANT NEVREKAR
 9869544005


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 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:02 +
 Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Academy. Workshop and Mumbai Meetup -
 September/October schedule

  Hiya,

 Further information about each of the following will be given at a later
 date, this is just to give advance notice to all concerned so that you can
 block your diaries.

 17 September - Mumbai Monthly Meetup, Venue: CED Colaba
 Sign up for this event: *
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai13*

 1 October, WikiAcademy, Venue: CED Colaba Topic covered: How to edit
 Wikipedia, at the grassroots
 Sign up for this event: *
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/Mumbai1*

 8 October - OpenMaps Workshop - On ground, University of Mumbai - Fort
 Campus neighbourhood (venue of WikiConference India 2011)
 Sign up for this event: *
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workshop/Mumbai_Workshop_2*

 We hope to see good levels of participation for all these events.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Online Volunteers needed for India Loves Wikipedia - Outreach

2011-08-28 Thread Béria Lima
Just one question:

Anyone is checking for license fraud? We have a LONG history of users who
upload copyrighted pictures in Flickr under free licenses to be send to
Commons.
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On 28 August 2011 09:53, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice!

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Sreejith K. sreejithk2...@gmail.comwrote:

 My commons id is 
 Sreejithk2000http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sreejithk2000


 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Sreejith, what is your commons user id please?

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Sreejith K. sreejithk2...@gmail.comwrote:

 I can be a volunteer.

 I am an active Commons user with over 20,000 edits and is a
 license-reviewer in commons.

 Thanks,
 Sreejith K.


 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Aadarsh Gupta 
 aadarshgupta...@gmail.com wrote:

 No I haven't yet.. yeah sure, can you pl. make it more clear, skills in
 what regards you are looking forward to ??

 On 28 August 2011 12:58, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Adarsh,

 What i your user name/ Have you uploaded to Commons before? Can you
 kindly show that you have the skills, if you dont mind.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Aadarsh Gupta 
 aadarshgupta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!
 I'm interested to take part in this and want to be a volunteer, can
 you pl. forward me the link like where I need to apply and need to fill 
 all
 the related data!

 Thanks!

 On 28 August 2011 08:50, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is relevant to all those who have written to the various lists
 and asked how one can participate. volunteer or help in any way.

 We need people to upload images to Wikimedia Commons.

- We face a problem in that photographers are willing to go out
 shoot and donate images. But they are unfamiliar with Commons and 
 do not
upload it there. However, we find that they know Flickr and are 
 willing to
upload it under a suitable Creative Commons license.
- There are hundreds of free images on the net, we can show you
how to locate them. These can be uploaded to Commons. We are at 
 this point
of time interested in images pertaining to India only.

 It is a job requiring patience, care for details and intelligence as
 the images need to be categorised also. Where relevant we would like 
 to add
 them to articles too.

 We need a small TEAM of three to five - people, age, sex, religion,
 etc, etc, no bar, except that they should have:
 * Knowledge of uploading images to Commons
 * know how to categorise
 * know how to load images into Wikipedia
 * Possess good judgement.
 * Possess an abiding love for Wikipedia and willing to contribute to
 it.

 If you are interested, let us know. This is a serious commitment
 under the India Loves Wikipedia initiative. Dont apply if just for 
 time
 paas.

 Helpers will be awarded barnstars at a suitable date after the
 project is done.

 Warm regards,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] News from the Chapter and the Conference

2011-08-25 Thread Béria Lima
Just one not about the subject:

If WMIN don't use that money to WCI, it needs to be returned to WMF. This
money was not given to WMIN for no reason, was given *to be used in WCI* -
if that would not be the case anymore, the money need to be returned.

So all those arguments that We have better things to do with that money
are not true.
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On 25 August 2011 08:59, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I appreciate the transparent, detailed and professional planning of
 conference and I am sorry I couldn't take part in WikiConference related
 planning earlier.

 For those who don't know, I am a Tamil Wikimedian since 2005 with 20,000+
 edits. My major interest lies in outreach and policy decisions concerning
 Tamil Wikimedia projects.

 http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Ravidreams

 Am I qualified to express my opinions now ? ;)

 I have two major concerns:

 1. The overall budget. It is huge even if we get 100% commercial
 sponsorship. We could do more useful things with this budget.

 2. The amount of money that is being granted from the foundation.

 Given the indication that this may be an annual event, here are my ideas on
 *how a WikiConference shall be arranged. *

 * WikiConference need not be an annual event.

 * It should be planned well in advance ( a year in advance at least to
 allow time for planning and fund-raising )

 * Let's not have an ambitious plan and wonder for funding. We should have a
 realistic estimate for non-grant funding and plan accordingly. *Bidding
 city / community should show guarantee to meet at least half the budget by
 means of commercial sponsors and other revenue sources.* If they cannot
 provide this guarantee, they should revise the budget.

 * Tie up with local universities / academic institutions for free venue /
 dorms and look for the dates when these can be available. WikiConference is
 a media event and I am sure there will be many hosting partners for a brand
 like Wikipedia. If we can convince schools to run campus ambassador programs
 why not they be convinced to host this?

 * Need not be a 3 day event. Even a 1 or 2 day event will be good. (will
 cut down logistics, accommodation costs) .

 *What if this is 2001 with no WMF and grants? How will we plan and
 organize?*

 *This is not a corporate conference to have 100% professional and rocking
 experience at any cost. This is a community conference and that spirit
 should be kept. *

 *Here are some ways to minimise expense and generate revenue:*

 * We are getting lakhs of eyeballs for sponsorship / participation
 announcement and they all land in WikiConference India home page. But
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Sponsorship has
 no info and I couldn't find sponsorship related info anywhere else. This
 should be the highlighted info in conference homepage asking for sponsors.

 * Why not convert the conference itself into a fund-raiser? Open a donation
 booth. Have an agreement with chapter / foundation to get 50% donations for
 conference expenses and donate the rest to the movement. Can we place a
 banner of this budget in the conference venue? Will our expenses be
 justified to a common man? Will people be motivated to donate? If not, we
 are doing something the wrong way.

 * Registration cost should be at least 300 INR per day. ( The current
 budget allots 200 INR plus per day for food alone). The value of the
 conference is in the knowledge they gain and not in the goodies we give.
 Meritorious candidates can apply for sponsorships. We don't need a crowd.
 The local crowd may come and forget it as yet another event. The prime focus
 should be to bring together best minds already active in Wikimedia at one
 place. The attendees party can be free for scholarship recipients but others
 can pay. If you compare that a movie going experience in Mumbai should cost
 at least 200 INR per head, we need not feel shy to charge where it is due.

 * Sell Wikipedia souvenirs including T-Shirts, mugs etc.,. Or give them as
 a freebie when people make large donations.

 * If we can make the event a two-day conference, we can cut down logistics
 and accommodation costs. Even an international event like Wikimania has some
 less quality presentations. Have four tracks: Language Wikipedia projects,
 English Wikipedia, Tech and General. ( I found only two seminar rooms in the
 budget and assume only 2 or 3 tracks) Have only the best papers and move the
 rest to lighting talks.

 Personally, I am not so happy with some of the ways WMF, chapters are
 spending the donated money and I know there are more people feeling this
 way. If even regular Wikipedians feel like this, we should be more
 responsible in how we

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: WCI invitation to Indic active Wikipedians

2011-08-12 Thread Béria Lima
I need you to remove the  _ in Lucia_Bot, and let it Lucia Bot. The _
for some reason don't let my bot edit there.
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On 12 August 2011 04:45, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done it on sa wiki. Let me know if I've done it right (I've never used AWB
 on sawiki before, nor have I approved any users before).


 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sa/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

 Regards,
 Swaroop Rao
 (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch)






 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 07:57, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 Can any administrators of Hindi and Sanskrit wikipedia help ?

 Naveen Francis
  Signature powered by 
 http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extensionutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=footer
 WiseStamphttp://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extensionutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=footer
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
 Date: 12 August 2011 03:13
 Subject: Re: WCI invitation to Indic active Wikipedians
 To: Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com
 Cc: Jyothis E jyothi...@gmail.com, Salman Haroon Wiki 
 de10...@gmail.com, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com, Cherian Tinu
 Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com



 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Wiki_Outreach#Misc

 Hindi and Sanskrit couldn't be done because i need Lucia in the CheckWiki
 page to run she there. The pages are here:

 To hi.wiki: http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/
 विकिपीडिया:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage
 To sa.wiki:  http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/
 विकिपीडिया:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation

2011-08-10 Thread Béria Lima
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Beria/WCI_banner_translation
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fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


On 10 August 2011 06:30, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where exactly I need to translate the central message for Odia, I think I
 have already translated, but it's not coming in the site (
 or.wikipedia.org )

 rgds

 Subha


 On 9 August 2011 21:00, Webmaster - ThiLaStars 
 webmas...@thilastars.comwrote:

  How do I unsubscribe this mail conversation?

 ** **

 http://www.thilastars.com

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 ** **

 *From:* wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
 wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *pranjali
 sanap
 *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2011 8:47 PM
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for
 Participation

  ** **

 thank you  sir.
 and ill surely mail my details to them thank you so much 

 regards
 -pranjali sanap 

 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
 sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote:

 Make it Call for speakers

 That will give clarity.

 -Sudhanwa


 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Pradeep Mohandas
 pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi,
 
  Call for Papers will confuse people even more as they might think that
  they need to submit a paper for submission. Suggest Call for
  Presentations, if the name needs to be changed at all.
  Sent from my Nokia E63,
  Pradeep
 
 
  On 07/08/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
  Better rename it as a Call for Papers. Back from Haifa, Shiju?
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Ashwin Baindur
  --
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Shiju Alex
  shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Yes, that is a good suggestion. I am fine with renaming the page.
 
  I kept the name *Call for Particpation* following the footsteps of
  wikimania :)
 
 
  Shiju
 
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
  sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Looks like Call for Participation in the title is misleading to
 many.
 
  It is supposed to be call for papers (for speakers) and not call for
  attendees registration.
 
  Most of us know this properly, but considering lot of students will
 be
  checking it out, it is possible to mislead them as mentioned in the
  other mail by the student.
 
  Looks like we have to give some more clarity on the web page.
 
  Regards
  -Sudhanwa
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:26 AM,  wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi Pranjali,
  
   The registration for the conference is yet to begin, there will be
 an
   announcement on the same shortly. We appreciate your patience in
 this
   matter.
  
   If you wish to help in any way please email details on how you can
 help
  to
   pradeep.mohandas (at) live.com.
  
   Kind Regards,
  
  
  
   
   Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:31:40 +0530
   From: pgsa...@gmail.com
   To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
   Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call
 for
   Participation
  
   hello sir,
   i am a bit confuse about it ...
   i am a SYBSc IT student from mumbai
   i want to attened this conference
   will you please guide me any in which way i can help this
 cause?
   -pranjali sanap
  
   On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Shiju Alex 
 shijualexonl...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Dear All,
  
   Please submit your proposals here:
  
 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation
  
   Kindly ensure that your proposal is on a topic related to
 Wikimedia. We
  have
   received quite a few proposals which are off-topic.
  
   But we are expecting lot of submissions from experienced
 wikimedians
  soon.
   Please note that the last date of submission is August 30.
  
   Shiju
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Shiju Alex 
 shijualexonl...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Dear All,
  
   The Call for Participation for WikiConference India 2011 is open
 now.
  
   Details are available here:
  
 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation
  
   Few guidelines that you need to keep in mind before submitting the
  proposal
   are available on this page. The guidelines are only meant as a
 pointer
  to
   help speakers and is not expected to be exhaustive. You can submit
   talks
   within all aspects of Wikimedia even if the topic is not
 specifically
   included on that page. ''' Be Bold.'''
  
   Few wikimedians had provided their wish list regarding
 WikiConference
  India
   2011 here:
  
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/ProgramsYou
   can use that also as reference

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Oral Citations mentioned in the New York Times

2011-08-08 Thread Béria Lima
Ashwin Baindur, can I fw your mail to Foundation-l ? ;)
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fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


On 8 August 2011 18:17, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 On 8 August 2011 21:30, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/08/business/media/a-push-to-redefine-knowledge-at-wikipedia.html?nl=todaysheadlinesemc=tha26
  Great exposure  great publicity.

 Indeed! More power to the spoken word!

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India wiki re-design

2011-07-04 Thread Béria Lima
You really like that page? Is so plain to me (i like the upper part, but the
rest ... not so good)

What i can do is create my main page in User namespace and when is ready i
come here show to you and you made all sugestions and alterations you want.
How that sounds?
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


2011/7/4 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com

 Thanks much for the offer of help, Beria.  Really appreciate that.

 Personally, I would agree with the sentiment that a single website
 serves the purpose.  We can simply lock some pages to make them
 static, the rest can work like a wiki.

 Are there more suggestions on this issue?  Should we have two websites
 (one static, based on wordpress or drupal and the other a wiki) or
 should one (wiki) serve the purpose best?

 Beria, at this point of time, I would say that anything is better than
 the plain pages we have now.  We require some standardization too, so
 that we can organize information better (through categories).

 I think the Wikimedia Hong Kong page (wikimedia.hk) looks great.  Are
 there more examples?  Maybe we need some out-of-the-box thinking to
 create something new. (-:

 anirudh

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I can help redesign the wiki main page. But would help if you people say
 what do you want (as if: I would like if the main page was like WM XX wiki
 main page)
 
  And I agree with Salmaan, there are no point in keep wikimedia.in and
 wiki.wikimedia.in separated. but I would do the oposite (ie: redirect
 wiki.wikimedia.in to wikimedia.in but with the actual content - like in
 wikimedia.de and wikimedia.pt. A diferent portal would only be useful if
 was like wikimedia.fr one (in their case the wiki is almost not used at
 all).
 
  And talking about that: Do you people have it wikipedia.in domain?
 Because if a chapter would give good use to that would be you (with the
 thousand languages in India). You could do something like in 
 wikipedia.fr(WMPT has the code, we are updating to place in our
 wikipedia.pt (now a redirect to pt.wikipedia.org).
 
  And btw: Hello people. Salmaan invited me to be here, but if i shouldn't
 please say so and i will leave.
  _
  Béria Lima
  Wikimedia Portugal
 
  Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
 estamos a fazer.
 
 
  2011/7/4 Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com
 
  Hi Anirudh
  I brought up the issue with wikimedia.in domain earlier, why not have
 it redirect to the wiki itself and add a section for blog/news on wiki. It
 would seem like there would be a lot of redundancy between the two, and it
 would only require more work to update both separately.
  Either way, I have experience with smaller wikis and new mediawiki
 installations. I can help with the wiki itself and better organize it.
 
  Salmaan
 
  On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  The Wikimedia India portal has been up and running for a while now.  I
 request the attention of available volunteers to help us with the Wikimedia
 website redesign.  We mainly need help with two issues:
  1.  Wikimedia India wiki:  The Main Page of the wiki (
 wiki.wikimedia.in) requires a re-design to make it look better organized
 and attractive.  I would appreciate if volunteers with designing and HTML
 skills please support us with this request.  We welcome all contributions
 and inputs, and I request you to be bold and make changes as and how you see
 fit.
  2.  Wikimedia India landing page: The wikimedia.in domain lands at a
 static page and the plan is to have a wordpress or drupal based platform to
 support a few static pages and a blog.  Would appreciate if some volunteers
 helped us with this as well.
  Yours sincerely,
 
  Anirudh Bhati
 
  +855 975 529 803
  Skype: anirudhsbh
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India wiki re-design

2011-07-04 Thread Béria Lima
that is a good page.

But is too serious, too german. I would do something more appealing to
people with aesthetic sense  :) more on that in the night (when i will start
to work in that)
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


2011/7/4 Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com

 I agree with Beria, WMHK is not that impressive. WMHK seems to be using an
 older version of Mediawiki with a generic background. I've always liked the
 German chapter's design though (http://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/Hauptseite)

 Salmaan

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 You really like that page? Is so plain to me (i like the upper part, but
 the rest ... not so good)

 What i can do is create my main page in User namespace and when is ready
 i come here show to you and you made all sugestions and alterations you
 want. How that sounds?
 _
 *Béria Lima*
 http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484


 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
 estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


 2011/7/4 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com

 Thanks much for the offer of help, Beria.  Really appreciate that.

 Personally, I would agree with the sentiment that a single website
 serves the purpose.  We can simply lock some pages to make them
 static, the rest can work like a wiki.

 Are there more suggestions on this issue?  Should we have two websites
 (one static, based on wordpress or drupal and the other a wiki) or
 should one (wiki) serve the purpose best?

 Beria, at this point of time, I would say that anything is better than
 the plain pages we have now.  We require some standardization too, so
 that we can organize information better (through categories).

 I think the Wikimedia Hong Kong page (wikimedia.hk) looks great.  Are
 there more examples?  Maybe we need some out-of-the-box thinking to
 create something new. (-:

 anirudh

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I can help redesign the wiki main page. But would help if you people
 say what do you want (as if: I would like if the main page was like WM XX
 wiki main page)
 
  And I agree with Salmaan, there are no point in keep wikimedia.in and
 wiki.wikimedia.in separated. but I would do the oposite (ie: redirect
 wiki.wikimedia.in to wikimedia.in but with the actual content - like in
 wikimedia.de and wikimedia.pt. A diferent portal would only be useful if
 was like wikimedia.fr one (in their case the wiki is almost not used at
 all).
 
  And talking about that: Do you people have it wikipedia.in domain?
 Because if a chapter would give good use to that would be you (with the
 thousand languages in India). You could do something like in
 wikipedia.fr (WMPT has the code, we are updating to place in our
 wikipedia.pt (now a redirect to pt.wikipedia.org).
 
  And btw: Hello people. Salmaan invited me to be here, but if i
 shouldn't please say so and i will leave.
  _
  Béria Lima
  Wikimedia Portugal
 
  Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
 estamos a fazer.
 
 
  2011/7/4 Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com
 
  Hi Anirudh
  I brought up the issue with wikimedia.in domain earlier, why not have
 it redirect to the wiki itself and add a section for blog/news on wiki. It
 would seem like there would be a lot of redundancy between the two, and it
 would only require more work to update both separately.
  Either way, I have experience with smaller wikis and new mediawiki
 installations. I can help with the wiki itself and better organize it.
 
  Salmaan
 
  On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  The Wikimedia India portal has been up and running for a while now.
  I request the attention of available volunteers to help us with the
 Wikimedia website redesign.  We mainly need help with two issues:
  1.  Wikimedia India wiki:  The Main Page of the wiki (
 wiki.wikimedia.in) requires a re-design to make it look better organized
 and attractive.  I would appreciate if volunteers with designing and HTML
 skills please support us with this request.  We welcome all contributions
 and inputs, and I request you to be bold and make changes as and how you see
 fit.
  2.  Wikimedia India landing page: The wikimedia.in domain lands at a
 static page and the plan is to have a wordpress or drupal based platform to
 support a few static pages and a blog.  Would appreciate if some volunteers
 helped us with this as well.
  Yours sincerely,
 
  Anirudh Bhati
 
  +855 975 529 803
  Skype: anirudhsbh