Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
Sure, I would love to do that does Wednesday 22:30 to 23:30 sound ok ? I also want to chat with people and understand editing behavior, what all does one do when he/she is editing an article. Does he/she check the history etc ? I'm also trying to understand what people generally use the history tab for. Thanks Jeph On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:27 AM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: The slider is to control the speed of the animation , really fast to super slow. You are the fifth person to ask me about it, I'll make it more intuitive :-) Since you do have a demo instance up, could you consider organizing a Hangouts on Air to run interested folks through the current feature set and, also what your plans are? The resulting video can then be used by others to catch-up and also understand more about the tool. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
What exactly is the purpose of the sliding bar please? On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Some updates about the tool. - Added support for 18 other languages (no Indic languages yet), most of them seem to work. - Added a play/pause button, so that the user can go grab a coffee in between :-) - Changes to the layout , now it looks more like a player with controls. - You can try the demo herehttps://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html Thanks Jeph On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current plan is to make it into a js gadget. The demo is a standalone tool and I'll move it to tools.wmflabs.org soon. I had chatted with the mobile developers about having something similar on the mobile web to view the changes , so my long term goal is to integrate it into the mobile extension , I think it would be better placed on mobiles than on desktops , but I'dont plan to do this right away. Thanks On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 08/25/2013 06:45 AM, jeph wrote: Hi , I'm an IEG grantee from India. My proposalhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Replay_Edits was to build a tool to visualise the edits in an article. It aims to make it easier for an editor to go through the edits/revisions in an article. Rather than showing the changes in wikitext the tool shows the page as a reader would see it. The content that was removed/ deleted in a revision disappears the new content/ modifications appears. - Please checkout the live demo https://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html . - An updated mockup https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1hJO1N6piYFMWUzVkpsR2dmUFU/edit?usp=sharing of the tool It is a work in progress and I'm working on the following features. - Pause/Forward/Rewind buttons - Draggable timeline , you can select from where to start playing where to end. - Skipping minor edits etc - Playback of a specific users edits alone. (I'm not sure how I'll do this) Would be awesome if you could add features you would like to see here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Replay_Edits#Features_for_the_tool%23Features_for_the_tool . Moreover now that wikipedia has gone live with editing on mobiles I'm hoping the tool would be really useful there too as mobiles are much more interactive than desktops. I'm trying to talk to as many people as possible about the tool so that people will use it once I'm done building it also to be sure that what I'm building is useful :-) Please share the demo link around. Thanks Jeph Hi, Jeph! Thank you for sharing this demo. I also encourage any coders on this list to help out Jeph with the code, which is at https://github.com/cosmiclattes/wikireplay . Jeph, I can see a few directions this could go. You could perhaps try to get it integrated into MediaWiki itself, like the page information action (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbardaction=info ). Or you could make it a standalone tool on tools.wmflabs.org, like http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/articleinfo/ I think, and perhaps get it linked to in the External tools section of the page info action or the page edit history in our Wikipedias. Or you could try to join forces with another team or suite of tools like the RENDER toolset (example: https://toolserver.org/~RENDER/toolkit/ChangeDetector/ ) -- still external to MediaWiki, but benefiting from a team approach. What do you think you will try to do? Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
The slider is to control the speed of the animation , really fast to super slow. You are the fifth person to ask me about it, I'll make it more intuitive :-) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: What exactly is the purpose of the sliding bar please? On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Some updates about the tool. - Added support for 18 other languages (no Indic languages yet), most of them seem to work. - Added a play/pause button, so that the user can go grab a coffee in between :-) - Changes to the layout , now it looks more like a player with controls. - You can try the demo herehttps://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html Thanks Jeph On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current plan is to make it into a js gadget. The demo is a standalone tool and I'll move it to tools.wmflabs.org soon. I had chatted with the mobile developers about having something similar on the mobile web to view the changes , so my long term goal is to integrate it into the mobile extension , I think it would be better placed on mobiles than on desktops , but I'dont plan to do this right away. Thanks On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 08/25/2013 06:45 AM, jeph wrote: Hi , I'm an IEG grantee from India. My proposalhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Replay_Edits was to build a tool to visualise the edits in an article. It aims to make it easier for an editor to go through the edits/revisions in an article. Rather than showing the changes in wikitext the tool shows the page as a reader would see it. The content that was removed/ deleted in a revision disappears the new content/ modifications appears. - Please checkout the live demo https://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html . - An updated mockup https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1hJO1N6piYFMWUzVkpsR2dmUFU/edit?usp=sharing of the tool It is a work in progress and I'm working on the following features. - Pause/Forward/Rewind buttons - Draggable timeline , you can select from where to start playing where to end. - Skipping minor edits etc - Playback of a specific users edits alone. (I'm not sure how I'll do this) Would be awesome if you could add features you would like to see here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Replay_Edits#Features_for_the_tool%23Features_for_the_tool . Moreover now that wikipedia has gone live with editing on mobiles I'm hoping the tool would be really useful there too as mobiles are much more interactive than desktops. I'm trying to talk to as many people as possible about the tool so that people will use it once I'm done building it also to be sure that what I'm building is useful :-) Please share the demo link around. Thanks Jeph Hi, Jeph! Thank you for sharing this demo. I also encourage any coders on this list to help out Jeph with the code, which is at https://github.com/cosmiclattes/wikireplay . Jeph, I can see a few directions this could go. You could perhaps try to get it integrated into MediaWiki itself, like the page information action (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbardaction=info ). Or you could make it a standalone tool on tools.wmflabs.org, like http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/articleinfo/ I think, and perhaps get it linked to in the External tools section of the page info action or the page edit history in our Wikipedias. Or you could try to join forces with another team or suite of tools like the RENDER toolset (example: https://toolserver.org/~RENDER/toolkit/ChangeDetector/ ) -- still external to MediaWiki, but benefiting from a team approach. What do you think you will try to do? Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:27 AM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: The slider is to control the speed of the animation , really fast to super slow. You are the fifth person to ask me about it, I'll make it more intuitive :-) Since you do have a demo instance up, could you consider organizing a Hangouts on Air to run interested folks through the current feature set and, also what your plans are? The resulting video can then be used by others to catch-up and also understand more about the tool. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
On 08/25/2013 06:45 AM, jeph wrote: Hi , I'm an IEG grantee from India. My proposalhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Replay_Edits was to build a tool to visualise the edits in an article. It aims to make it easier for an editor to go through the edits/revisions in an article. Rather than showing the changes in wikitext the tool shows the page as a reader would see it. The content that was removed/ deleted in a revision disappears the new content/ modifications appears. - Please checkout the live demohttps://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html . - An updated mockuphttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1hJO1N6piYFMWUzVkpsR2dmUFU/edit?usp=sharing of the tool It is a work in progress and I'm working on the following features. - Pause/Forward/Rewind buttons - Draggable timeline , you can select from where to start playing where to end. - Skipping minor edits etc - Playback of a specific users edits alone. (I'm not sure how I'll do this) Would be awesome if you could add features you would like to see herehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Replay_Edits#Features_for_the_tool%23Features_for_the_tool. Moreover now that wikipedia has gone live with editing on mobiles I'm hoping the tool would be really useful there too as mobiles are much more interactive than desktops. I'm trying to talk to as many people as possible about the tool so that people will use it once I'm done building it also to be sure that what I'm building is useful :-) Please share the demo link around. Thanks Jeph Hi, Jeph! Thank you for sharing this demo. I also encourage any coders on this list to help out Jeph with the code, which is at https://github.com/cosmiclattes/wikireplay . Jeph, I can see a few directions this could go. You could perhaps try to get it integrated into MediaWiki itself, like the page information action (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbardaction=info ). Or you could make it a standalone tool on tools.wmflabs.org, like http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/articleinfo/ I think, and perhaps get it linked to in the External tools section of the page info action or the page edit history in our Wikipedias. Or you could try to join forces with another team or suite of tools like the RENDER toolset (example: https://toolserver.org/~RENDER/toolkit/ChangeDetector/ ) -- still external to MediaWiki, but benefiting from a team approach. What do you think you will try to do? Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
Hi, The current plan is to make it into a js gadget. The demo is a standalone tool and I'll move it to tools.wmflabs.org soon. I had chatted with the mobile developers about having something similar on the mobile web to view the changes , so my long term goal is to integrate it into the mobile extension , I think it would be better placed on mobiles than on desktops , but I'dont plan to do this right away. Thanks On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 08/25/2013 06:45 AM, jeph wrote: Hi , I'm an IEG grantee from India. My proposalhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Replay_Edits was to build a tool to visualise the edits in an article. It aims to make it easier for an editor to go through the edits/revisions in an article. Rather than showing the changes in wikitext the tool shows the page as a reader would see it. The content that was removed/ deleted in a revision disappears the new content/ modifications appears. - Please checkout the live demo https://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html . - An updated mockup https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1hJO1N6piYFMWUzVkpsR2dmUFU/edit?usp=sharing of the tool It is a work in progress and I'm working on the following features. - Pause/Forward/Rewind buttons - Draggable timeline , you can select from where to start playing where to end. - Skipping minor edits etc - Playback of a specific users edits alone. (I'm not sure how I'll do this) Would be awesome if you could add features you would like to see here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Replay_Edits#Features_for_the_tool%23Features_for_the_tool . Moreover now that wikipedia has gone live with editing on mobiles I'm hoping the tool would be really useful there too as mobiles are much more interactive than desktops. I'm trying to talk to as many people as possible about the tool so that people will use it once I'm done building it also to be sure that what I'm building is useful :-) Please share the demo link around. Thanks Jeph Hi, Jeph! Thank you for sharing this demo. I also encourage any coders on this list to help out Jeph with the code, which is at https://github.com/cosmiclattes/wikireplay . Jeph, I can see a few directions this could go. You could perhaps try to get it integrated into MediaWiki itself, like the page information action (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbardaction=info ). Or you could make it a standalone tool on tools.wmflabs.org, like http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/articleinfo/ I think, and perhaps get it linked to in the External tools section of the page info action or the page edit history in our Wikipedias. Or you could try to join forces with another team or suite of tools like the RENDER toolset (example: https://toolserver.org/~RENDER/toolkit/ChangeDetector/ ) -- still external to MediaWiki, but benefiting from a team approach. What do you think you will try to do? Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
Hi , I'm an IEG grantee from India. My proposalhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Replay_Edits was to build a tool to visualise the edits in an article. It aims to make it easier for an editor to go through the edits/revisions in an article. Rather than showing the changes in wikitext the tool shows the page as a reader would see it. The content that was removed/ deleted in a revision disappears the new content/ modifications appears. - Please checkout the live demohttps://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html . - An updated mockuphttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1hJO1N6piYFMWUzVkpsR2dmUFU/edit?usp=sharing of the tool It is a work in progress and I'm working on the following features. - Pause/Forward/Rewind buttons - Draggable timeline , you can select from where to start playing where to end. - Skipping minor edits etc - Playback of a specific users edits alone. (I'm not sure how I'll do this) Would be awesome if you could add features you would like to see herehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Replay_Edits#Features_for_the_tool%23Features_for_the_tool. Moreover now that wikipedia has gone live with editing on mobiles I'm hoping the tool would be really useful there too as mobiles are much more interactive than desktops. I'm trying to talk to as many people as possible about the tool so that people will use it once I'm done building it also to be sure that what I'm building is useful :-) Please share the demo link around. Thanks Jeph ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
