Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Article Feedback Tool v5 : Indian Perspective
Hi Oliver On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 21:56, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: The first is that the tool is directly saying what do you think about the content and not what do you think about the subject of the content, which might cut *some* junk. Second This is partly true, also an option to move the feedback to talk page can help, so not just the feedback viewers get access to feedback (which would help improve the article), everyone else also has it. On the second front, there will be a full range of hide tools (and possibly the ability to block), and the oversight function is being included.. It is still to be determined who will be able to use these hide tools. I would also prefer to keep this barrier low. Am slightly concerned that one day the number of tools will grow more than the number of people there to monitor them (esp WikiProject India and other smaller projects) (exaggeration!) But growing editors is key and I hope this will directly / indirectly involve more people and make people to start editing (along with visual editor etc). Hi Erik, Thanks for pointers. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Article Feedback Tool v5 : Indian Perspective
All, Some of you might have followed the recent improvement with Artcle Feedback Tool v5 (AFTv5) , for those who didnt please read[1]. Even before reading the entire page, something struck me. The design is strangely synonymous with Indian comment boards. I strongly feel, having this on India articles will generate more trash than any feedback and 100x load more on editors to cut the junk, moderate etc. If you are not familiar with Indian message boards, please read[2] (That was a very tough RS to catch which is self mocking given the site's reputation!). AFTv5 is looking for feedback, I hope this thread can give some constructive feedback given the list audience's familiarity with Indian message boards. PS : Am also poking Oliver Keyes to follow this thread. [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/20/a-new-way-to-contribute-to-wikipedia/ [2] http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2007/oct/24sidin.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Article Feedback Tool v5 : Indian Perspective
rediff/TOI comment board in Wikipedia!!. If this is added in India articles, we would need a huggle like first person shooter for feedback moderation to keep things sane. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: All, Some of you might have followed the recent improvement with Artcle Feedback Tool v5 (AFTv5) , for those who didnt please read[1]. Even before reading the entire page, something struck me. The design is strangely synonymous with Indian comment boards. I strongly feel, having this on India articles will generate more trash than any feedback and 100x load more on editors to cut the junk, moderate etc. If you are not familiar with Indian message boards, please read[2] (That was a very tough RS to catch which is self mocking given the site's reputation!). AFTv5 is looking for feedback, I hope this thread can give some constructive feedback given the list audience's familiarity with Indian message boards. PS : Am also poking Oliver Keyes to follow this thread. [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/20/a-new-way-to-contribute-to-wikipedia/ [2] http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2007/oct/24sidin.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Article Feedback Tool v5 : Indian Perspective
Bala, Huggle has already turned into a FPS game. Arun and I were debating on whether we could use that as an excuse to get gamers into Wikipedia. Srikanth, I agree with you. You may find some feedback from me too, though I haven't seen any feedback myself. Where do editors see the feedback ??? -- On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: rediff/TOI comment board in Wikipedia!!. If this is added in India articles, we would need a huggle like first person shooter for feedback moderation to keep things sane. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: All, Some of you might have followed the recent improvement with Artcle Feedback Tool v5 (AFTv5) , for those who didnt please read[1]. Even before reading the entire page, something struck me. The design is strangely synonymous with Indian comment boards. I strongly feel, having this on India articles will generate more trash than any feedback and 100x load more on editors to cut the junk, moderate etc. If you are not familiar with Indian message boards, please read[2] (That was a very tough RS to catch which is self mocking given the site's reputation!). AFTv5 is looking for feedback, I hope this thread can give some constructive feedback given the list audience's familiarity with Indian message boards. PS : Am also poking Oliver Keyes to follow this thread. [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/20/a-new-way-to-contribute-to-wikipedia/ [2] http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2007/oct/24sidin.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Article Feedback Tool v5 : Indian Perspective
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Some of you might have followed the recent improvement with Artcle Feedback Tool v5 (AFTv5) , for those who didnt please read[1]. Even before reading the entire page, something struck me. The design is strangely synonymous with Indian comment boards. I strongly feel, having this on India articles will generate more trash than any feedback and 100x load more on editors to cut the junk, moderate etc. If Hi Srikanth, determining the signal/noise ratio on different types of articles is exactly part of the current evaluation. Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5/Feedback_evaluation http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Article_feedback/Data_and_metrics Importantly, * these free text comments aren't yet visible through the site; we're collecting them for the initial analysis; * if we find that we get a reasonable amount of actionable, useful free text suggestions this way, building scalable systems for filtering/managing those comments is precisely the next item on the agenda. Some ideas on how that could work (very preliminary) are here, and more are welcome: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Article_feedback/Version_5/Feature_Requirements#Feedback_page Your participation is much appreciated and Oliver can give you and anyone additional pointers to get involved. I do personally believe this could be a really, really important step for getting many more people involved, but it's also - for sure - very important to get this right. Nobody has any interest in re-inventing YouTube comments or similar crap. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
