[Wikimediaindia-l] Global Development Midyear Report 2011-12
Here is the link if you have not seen - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Global_Development_Midyear_report_2011-12#Global_Development_core_activity_review With Regards, Mandar V. Kulkarni http://mr.wikipedia.org___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?
Hi, Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away, == in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked any idea? I get a page of advertising about web hosting http://commons.wikimedia.org works == My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked at seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on BSNL DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do necessary running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist? -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?
I think this is likely a temporary issue, and I suspect that the security of the BSNL servers may have been compromised. Yann is of the same opinion. If the issue persists for a longer-term, then we can pursue it with the ISP. anirudh On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > Hi, > > Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away, > > == > in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked > any idea? > I get a page of advertising about web hosting > http://commons.wikimedia.org works > == > > My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS > for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use > opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked > at seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on > BSNL DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do > necessary running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist? > > -- > Regards > Srikanth.L > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. > > copy the script to the folder where you have the images. > > run the following command. > > python mediawiki-uploader.py > > mail me if you have any issues. > We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. after that the script ran successfully. -- GN ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
happy to know that it is useful. the install and readme files explain solving these issues. edit the file to change the default category too. please share if you need any enhancements. thanks. On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > >> open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. >> >> copy the script to the folder where you have the images. >> >> run the following command. >> >> python mediawiki-uploader.py >> >> mail me if you have any issues. >> > > > We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: > > while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I have > installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was > python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. > after that the script ran successfully. > > -- > GN > > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Article on Marathi Wikipedia in the second edition of Marathi e-Sahitya_Sammelan
Hi, Article on Marathi wikipedia is published in the second edition of Marathi e-Sahitya_Sammelan. Marathi e-Sahitya_Sammelan.was inaugurated by the famous Marathi poet "Grace" ( http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8) on 28 Jan 2012. Please read it here: http://uniquefeatures.in/e-sammelan-12/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A0%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE Marathi wikipedians are proud to be part of e-Sahitya_Sammelan!! Best regards -Sudhanwa -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a description. Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 From: tshriniva...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 happy to know that it is useful. the install and readme files explain solving these issues. edit the file to change the default category too. please share if you need any enhancements. thanks. On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. copy the script to the folder where you have the images. run the following command. python mediawiki-uploader.py mail me if you have any issues. We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. after that the script ran successfully. -- GN ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
did you use gthumb to add title and description? On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: > Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. > > Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a > description. > > -- > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 > From: tshriniva...@gmail.com > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 > > happy to know that it is useful. > the install and readme files explain solving these issues. > edit the file to change the default category too. > please share if you need any enhancements. > thanks. > On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. > copy the script to the folder where you have the images. > run the following command. > python mediawiki-uploader.py > mail me if you have any issues. > > > > We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: > > while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I have > installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was > python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. > after that the script ran successfully. > > -- > GN > > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing > list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / > change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
Hii, Its not any problem with the tool. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > did you use gthumb to add title and description? > On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: > >> Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. >> >> Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a >> description. >> >> -- >> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 >> From: tshriniva...@gmail.com >> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 >> >> happy to know that it is useful. >> the install and readme files explain solving these issues. >> edit the file to change the default category too. >> please share if you need any enhancements. >> thanks. >> On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T >> wrote: >> >> open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. >> copy the script to the folder where you have the images. >> run the following command. >> python mediawiki-uploader.py >> mail me if you have any issues. >> >> >> >> We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: >> >> while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I have >> installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was >> python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. >> after that the script ran successfully. >> >> -- >> GN >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> >> ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing >> list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / >> change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time. We tried reaching IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the participants to upload them with descriptions. Regards, Nikita. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate wrote: > Hii, > Its not any problem with the tool. > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > >> did you use gthumb to add title and description? >> On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: >> >>> Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. >>> >>> Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a >>> description. >>> >>> -- >>> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 >>> From: tshriniva...@gmail.com >>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 >>> >>> happy to know that it is useful. >>> the install and readme files explain solving these issues. >>> edit the file to change the default category too. >>> please share if you need any enhancements. >>> thanks. >>> On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T >>> wrote: >>> >>> open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. >>> copy the script to the folder where you have the images. >>> run the following command. >>> python mediawiki-uploader.py >>> mail me if you have any issues. >>> >>> >>> >>> We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: >>> >>> while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I >>> have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was >>> python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. >>> after that the script ran successfully. >>> >>> -- >>> GN >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >>> ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing >>> list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list >>> / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at many historically important places across the country, we must work to see that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time. Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities, which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier. I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at understanding and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more geek wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the community to solve, or to solve it directly. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate wrote: > Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time. We tried reaching > IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due > to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded > successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the > meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown > error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the > participants to upload them with descriptions. > > Regards, > Nikita. > > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate wrote: > >> Hii, >> Its not any problem with the tool. >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T >> wrote: >> >>> did you use gthumb to add title and description? >>> On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: >>> Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a description. -- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 From: tshriniva...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 happy to know that it is useful. the install and readme files explain solving these issues. edit the file to change the default category too. please share if you need any enhancements. thanks. On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T >>> > wrote: open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. copy the script to the folder where you have the images. run the following command. python mediawiki-uploader.py mail me if you have any issues. We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. after that the script ran successfully. -- GN ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> ___ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Vickram Fool On The Hill
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?
Do keep in mind that BSNL is a government-backed entity. It's parent ministry is the one which proposed screening of content. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > I think this is likely a temporary issue, and I suspect that the security > of the BSNL servers may have been compromised. Yann is of the same > opinion. If the issue persists for a longer-term, then we can pursue it > with the ISP. > > anirudh > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away, >> >> == >> in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked >> any idea? >> I get a page of advertising about web hosting >> http://commons.wikimedia.org works >> == >> >> My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS >> for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use >> opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked >> at seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on >> BSNL DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do >> necessary running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist? >> >> -- >> Regards >> Srikanth.L >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?
Hello, It seems that the DNS server of BSNL was hacked. It looks strange that only Wikipedia was affected. The issue is fixed now. Regards, Yann 2012/1/28 Anirudh Bhati : > I think this is likely a temporary issue, and I suspect that the security of > the BSNL servers may have been compromised. Yann is of the same opinion. > If the issue persists for a longer-term, then we can pursue it with the > ISP. > > anirudh > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away, >> >> == >> in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked >> any idea? >> I get a page of advertising about web hosting >> http://commons.wikimedia.org works >> == >> >> My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS >> for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use >> opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked at >> seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on BSNL >> DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do necessary >> running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist? >> >> -- >> Regards >> Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also to ask people to log on to Commons and check it out by themselves so that they continue uploading pictures etc. This thread seems so complex that a participant must have felt crippled and left thinking that Wikipedia (and Commons) is all so complicated and geeky, it's not my cup of tea. For the next time, a tiny suggestion: Please resort to simpler techniques of communication and although that may not result in mass uploads *on the spot*, give out manuals or DIY cheat sheets so that people can go back home and look at them again. Maybe you guys can also keep in touch with these people who came, drop in a word and ask them if they need help. Some of them may return to your next meetup and that is how community expands. Thank you, Warmly Noopur On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram Crishna wrote: > Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. > Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at > many historically important places across the country, we must work to see > that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper > descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will > have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time. > > Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating > images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder > for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the > actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures > individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated > uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities, > which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed > and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control > spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is > analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier. > > I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at understanding > and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more geek > wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the > community to solve, or to solve it directly. > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate wrote: > >> Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time. We tried reaching >> IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due >> to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded >> successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the >> meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown >> error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the >> participants to upload them with descriptions. >> >> Regards, >> Nikita. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate wrote: >> >>> Hii, >>> Its not any problem with the tool. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T >>> wrote: >>> did you use gthumb to add title and description? On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: > Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. > > Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a > description. > > -- > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 > From: tshriniva...@gmail.com > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 > > happy to know that it is useful. > the install and readme files explain solving these issues. > edit the file to change the default category too. > please share if you need any enhancements. > thanks. > On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, "Nagarjuna G" wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T < > tshriniva...@gmail.com> wrote: > > open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons. > copy the script to the folder where you have the images. > run the following command. > python mediawiki-uploader.py > mail me if you have any issues. > > > > We tried this script for some folders. the feedback is as follows: > > while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster. I > have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was > python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. > after that the script ran successfully. > > -- > GN > > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Noopur wrote: > IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also to > ask people to log on to Commons and check it out by themselves so that they > continue uploading pictures etc. > This thread seems so complex that a participant must have felt crippled > and left thinking that Wikipedia (and Commons) is all so complicated and > geeky, it's not my cup of tea. > The nuts and bolts will always be geeky (although only some highly specific mails actually had any geeky content in them). The point of all the geeky stuff is to make life simple for persons who do not need to know anything geeky at all. For the next time, a tiny suggestion: Please resort to simpler techniques > of communication and although that may not result in mass uploads *on the > spot*, give out manuals or DIY cheat sheets so that people can go back home > and look at them again. > Actually, 'on the spot' was deliberately chosen following earlier walks, where it was noticed that not everyone who participated actually uploaded the content later, or partially uploaded with no captions or details. This makes extra work for other people later. Maybe you guys can also keep in touch with these people who came, drop in a > word and ask them if they need help. Some of them may return to your next > meetup and that is how community expands. > Noted. I think the purpose of such community efforts is to create more awareness about Wikimedia, that it has such interesting and user-focused details available, and that it is participatory: even when things do not work as hoped, it is we who solve such issues, not they. That is a huge message for people everywhere, one that does not need to be stated because it is being experienced. Having said which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where non-geeky people share their geeky needs. > > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram Crishna < > vvcris...@radiophony.com> wrote: > >> Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. >> Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at >> many historically important places across the country, we must work to see >> that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper >> descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will >> have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time. >> >> Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating >> images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder >> for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the >> actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures >> individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated >> uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities, >> which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed >> and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control >> spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is >> analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier. >> >> I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at understanding >> and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more geek >> wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the >> community to solve, or to solve it directly. >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate wrote: >> >>> Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time. We tried reaching >>> IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due >>> to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded >>> successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the >>> meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown >>> error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the >>> participants to upload them with descriptions. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nikita. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate wrote: >>> Hii, Its not any problem with the tool. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T >>> > wrote: > did you use gthumb to add title and description? > On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: > >> Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan. >> >> Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a >> description. >> >> -- >> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530 >> From: tshriniva...@gmail.com >> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012 >> >> happy to know that it is useful. >> the install and readme fi
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012
Actually, 'on the spot' was deliberately chosen following earlier walks, where it was noticed that not everyone who participated actually uploaded the content later, or partially uploaded with no captions or details. This makes extra work for other people later. Maybe this is an assumption? We thought the same but took our chances with manuals and people went back home and actually uploaded over 800 pictures. Regarding the geeky tools- making life simple, again, the moment you push photographers/non Linux users into a Linux lab and talk Python and metadata problems, one is bound to get slightly intimidated. On the back end of course, you can build the geekiest tool and talk about it, but on the front end, it should have been a 'clear solution'. People who struggled with uploads and metadata will surely not go back home and try it again. That was my point. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Vickram Crishna wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Noopur wrote: > >> IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also >> to ask people to log on to Commons and check it out by themselves so that >> they continue uploading pictures etc. >> This thread seems so complex that a participant must have felt crippled >> and left thinking that Wikipedia (and Commons) is all so complicated and >> geeky, it's not my cup of tea. >> > > The nuts and bolts will always be geeky (although only some highly > specific mails actually had any geeky content in them). The point of all > the geeky stuff is to make life simple for persons who do not need to know > anything geeky at all. > > For the next time, a tiny suggestion: Please resort to simpler techniques >> of communication and although that may not result in mass uploads *on the >> spot*, give out manuals or DIY cheat sheets so that people can go back home >> and look at them again. >> > > Actually, 'on the spot' was deliberately chosen following earlier walks, > where it was noticed that not everyone who participated actually uploaded > the content later, or partially uploaded with no captions or details. This > makes extra work for other people later. > > Maybe you guys can also keep in touch with these people who came, drop in >> a word and ask them if they need help. Some of them may return to your next >> meetup and that is how community expands. >> > > Noted. I think the purpose of such community efforts is to create more > awareness about Wikimedia, that it has such interesting and user-focused > details available, and that it is participatory: even when things do not > work as hoped, it is we who solve such issues, not they. That is a huge > message for people everywhere, one that does not need to be stated because > it is being experienced. > > Having said which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly > agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list > is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where > non-geeky people share their geeky needs. > > >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram Crishna < >> vvcris...@radiophony.com> wrote: >> >>> Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. >>> Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at >>> many historically important places across the country, we must work to see >>> that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper >>> descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will >>> have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time. >>> >>> Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating >>> images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder >>> for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the >>> actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures >>> individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated >>> uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities, >>> which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed >>> and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control >>> spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is >>> analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier. >>> >>> I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at >>> understanding and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more >>> geek wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the >>> community to solve, or to solve it directly. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate wrote: >>> Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time. We tried reaching IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded successfully on their second try. On
