Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Birthday
On 25 September 2012 07:21, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 24/09/12 12:21, David Gerard wrote: I've been at meets for other things up to about 12-13 people around one of the big round tables and the main inconvenience is sending someone to get the drinks. There is an assumption here that drinks are bought in rounds. I think the culture of the London meetup is different. Personally, I would never send anybody to buy drinks! Precisely - you have to, because you can't get out from the far side of the round tables! - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Birthday
On 25/09/12 07:39, David Gerard wrote: On 25 September 2012 07:21, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 24/09/12 12:21, David Gerard wrote: I've been at meets for other things up to about 12-13 people around one of the big round tables and the main inconvenience is sending someone to get the drinks. There is an assumption here that drinks are bought in rounds. I think the culture of the London meetup is different. Personally, I would never send anybody to buy drinks! Precisely - you have to, because you can't get out from the far side of the round tables! I see. I know those tables Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] Future of the toolserver
Just to clarify: As I have stated many time before, Wikimedia Deutschland is committed to run and maintain the Toolserver as long as Wikilabs are not in position to offer the same level of service as the Toolserver. This committment includes the purchase of new hardware, where necessary to keep the servers running. As in the past years, I hope for support by other entities in this project, both financially and with administration of the Toolserver. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Pavel Richter CEO Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tel.: +49 - 30 - 219 158 260 Twitter: @pavel 2012/9/25 Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com Something for Wikimedia UK to consider as it plans to give £10,000 to WMDE for the Toolserver's operations as per 2013 Annual Plan: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2013_Activity_Plan#Toolserver Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone Begin forwarded message: *From:* DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info *Date:* 24 September 2012 23:51:50 BST *To:* toolserve...@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* *[Toolserver-l] Future of the toolserver* *Reply-To:* Wikimedia Toolserver toolserve...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello all, in these days WMDE (the chapter that finance the toolserver) is discussing the budget for the next year (2013); you can find it at [1]. At the moment there is no money for new toolserver-hardware in this budget and the CEO Pavel Richter is unwilling to change this ([2] in german) – because he fears that there will be a Wikilabs in 2014. It is not possible for me to run the toolserver for another year with the current hardware – you all know why. For this reason I will request a change of the budget at the general meeting at November, so there will be a vote about. If this vote should fail (and we get no money for new hardware), I am going to retire from my job as root at 30. December 2012. I'm not longer able to tolerant the behavior of the german chapter and the WMF in matter of the toolserver; I do this for free and for fun, and it is not longer fun. Sincerely, DaB. P.S: If you are in a board of a chapter that gives money to WMDE for the toolserver: Make sure that it will be spend for hardware. [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/2013_annual_plan_draft/en [2] meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Deutschland/2013_annual_plan_draft/de#Toolserver -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 2B255885 ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (toolserve...@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on the Friday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. We could be able to cover your travel, but not the accommodation, so this might be an ideal opportunity for a person based locally. Please let me know if your are free to attend the whole weekend or just to go and speak. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Hasina ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
I'm sure this isn't your fault, Hasina, but this is something that's getting on my nerves, and those of other volunteers. We have an expenses policy (http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_2012#Reimbursement_of_Expenses), which specifies when the chapter will cover expenses and what expenses they will cover. For people to start applying their own, contradictory policies is only going to confuse matters and is likely to lead to the kind of confusion that the office was (at least in part) established to prevent. If the policy is inadequate, it should be modified, but until it is, it should be applied to every case. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell From: Hasina Khatun hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 14:12 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on theFriday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. We could be able to cover your travel, but not the accommodation, so this might be an ideal opportunity for a person based locally. Please let me know if your are free to attend the whole weekend or just to go and speak. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Hasina ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
Thanks for the email Harry - I'm sorry to hear that people are worried about our expenses policy. Any concerns should go to Jon. I think that in this case, we weren't as clear as we could be when sending out the initial email. I think that the policy is applied thoroughly and fairly, and it's being used for this event. We've been invited to speak at the conference for 20 minutes, on one day - we're thus happy to cover expenses for that day. However, as we're not actually required for the other days, I don't think that accommodation overnight for anyone - staff or volunteer - would be in line with our charitable objects. We can fund people to speak at the conference, by all means: that would be well within our objects (we'd be teaching people about Wikimedia). People are welcome to stay for all three days on their own time, of course, but I don't think that attending the entire conference is really something that Wikimedia UK could fund using donor funds. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 25 September 2012 16:57, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: I'm sure this isn't your fault, Hasina, but this is something that's getting on my nerves, and those of other volunteers. We have an expenses policy ( http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_2012#Reimbursement_of_Expenses), which specifies when the chapter will cover expenses and what expenses they will cover. For people to start applying their own, contradictory policies is only going to confuse matters and is likely to lead to the kind of confusion that the office was (at least in part) established to prevent. If the policy is inadequate, it should be modified, but until it is, it should be applied to every case. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell -- *From:* Hasina Khatun hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk *To:* UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 14:12 *Subject:* [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on the Friday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. We could be able to cover your travel, but not the accommodation, so this might be an ideal opportunity for a person based locally. Please let me know if your are free to attend the whole weekend or just to go and speak. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Hasina ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
I can see Richard's point although in this case the conference is free although I guess there is still transport. I'm quite willing to pick up Harry if it makes some kind odf sense (I'm there all three days) I'm willing to be the reserve speaker or to share or whatever Roger On 25 September 2012 17:26, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Thanks for the email Harry - I'm sorry to hear that people are worried about our expenses policy. Any concerns should go to Jon. I think that in this case, we weren't as clear as we could be when sending out the initial email. I think that the policy is applied thoroughly and fairly, and it's being used for this event. We've been invited to speak at the conference for 20 minutes, on one day - we're thus happy to cover expenses for that day. However, as we're not actually required for the other days, I don't think that accommodation overnight for anyone - staff or volunteer - would be in line with our charitable objects. We can fund people to speak at the conference, by all means: that would be well within our objects (we'd be teaching people about Wikimedia). People are welcome to stay for all three days on their own time, of course, but I don't think that attending the entire conference is really something that Wikimedia UK could fund using donor funds. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 25 September 2012 16:57, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: I'm sure this isn't your fault, Hasina, but this is something that's getting on my nerves, and those of other volunteers. We have an expenses policy ( http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_2012#Reimbursement_of_Expenses), which specifies when the chapter will cover expenses and what expenses they will cover. For people to start applying their own, contradictory policies is only going to confuse matters and is likely to lead to the kind of confusion that the office was (at least in part) established to prevent. If the policy is inadequate, it should be modified, but until it is, it should be applied to every case. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell -- *From:* Hasina Khatun hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk *To:* UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 14:12 *Subject:* [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on the Friday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. We could be able to cover your travel, but not the accommodation, so this might be an ideal opportunity for a person based locally. Please let me know if your are free to attend the whole weekend or just to go and speak. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Hasina ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
Harry, I'm not sure I understand your objection. What aspect of the expenses policy is being contradicted? On Sep 25, 2012 4:57 PM, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: I'm sure this isn't your fault, Hasina, but this is something that's getting on my nerves, and those of other volunteers. We have an expenses policy ( http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_2012#Reimbursement_of_Expenses), which specifies when the chapter will cover expenses and what expenses they will cover. For people to start applying their own, contradictory policies is only going to confuse matters and is likely to lead to the kind of confusion that the office was (at least in part) established to prevent. If the policy is inadequate, it should be modified, but until it is, it should be applied to every case. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell -- *From:* Hasina Khatun hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk *To:* UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 14:12 *Subject:* [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on the Friday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. We could be able to cover your travel, but not the accommodation, so this might be an ideal opportunity for a person based locally. Please let me know if your are free to attend the whole weekend or just to go and speak. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Hasina ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
Harry, if you're going to keep starting list emails with I'm sick of or ...getting on my nerves... you really need to make sure you have a valid complaint, or it kinda backfires. When people use that sort of construction, it also gives the impression that the email is primarily about them, rather than the topic. Just a bit of advice, On Tuesday, 25 September 2012, Thomas Dalton wrote: Harry, I'm not sure I understand your objection. What aspect of the expenses policy is being contradicted? On Sep 25, 2012 4:57 PM, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: I'm sure this isn't your fault, Hasina, but this is something that's getting on my nerves, and those of other volunteers. We have an expenses policy ( http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_2012#Reimbursement_of_Expenses), which specifies when the chapter will cover expenses and what expenses they will cover. For people to start applying their own, contradictory policies is only going to confuse matters and is likely to lead to the kind of confusion that the office was (at least in part) established to prevent. If the policy is inadequate, it should be modified, but until it is, it should be applied to every case. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell -- *From:* Hasina Khatun hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk *To:* UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 14:12 *Subject:* [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on the Friday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. We could be able to cover your travel, but not the accommodation, so this might be an ideal opportunity for a person based locally. Please let me know if your are free to attend the whole weekend or just to go and speak. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Hasina ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimehttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l -- Dr Martin L Poulter Wikipedia contributor http://enwp.org/User:MartinPoulter Associate, Wikimedia UK http://uk.wikimedia.org/ Musician http://myspace.com/comapilot Person http://infobomb.org/ ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Training opportunity: central London, mon 8 October
Hi all, The JISC Digital Infrastructure team have called me in to give them a day of training on the above date, and I am seeking one or two people to assist. JISC are an extremely important organisation to collaborate with, and this team in particular is concerned with librarianship, scholarship and education, and how these things are or can be transformed by the new environment of open content and open practice. They are very keen to learn from Wikipedia's way of working, so we will be having extended discussion on a set of topics they choose, and going through Basic Wikipedia training, as it is defined on the WMUK wiki. This would suit someone who is experienced with Wikipedia and possibly other wiki projects, who has helped people with Wikipedia one to one, but hasn't seen Wikipedia training taking place before. You have to be approachable and helpful, and proactively make sure that people don't get left behind. It is also an opportunity to give short informal presentations about aspects of Wikipedia or Wikimedia that the audience are interested in., but if one to one is more your style, that's still great. We'll also be welcoming the new users on-wiki, and documenting the event as we do it. We are training as volunteers, so you get travel expenses to central London, lunch, and a day of people hanging on your words because you have expertise that they want to learn from. You also advance our goals by helping enthusiastic and influential people understand and improve Wikipedia. If you're interested, sign up online at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/JISC_DI_team_training_workshop or contact me on my other email address, m.l.poul...@bris.ac.uk . Thanks, -- Dr Martin L Poulter Wikipedia contributor http://enwp.org/User:MartinPoulter Associate, Wikimedia UK http://uk.wikimedia.org/ Musician http://myspace.com/comapilot Person http://infobomb.org/ ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry
On 25 September 2012 14:12, Hasina Khatun hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Wikimedia UK has been invited recently invited to an event in Coventry on 19 October - CiyCamp Coventry (www.citycampcov.org.uk). CityCamp aims to encourage and enable local government, businesses, community organisations and academia to share knowledge, web technologies and experience to help shape the future of Coventry. This event will be held on Friday 19 October 2012 at 13:00 till Sunday 21 October 2012 at 16:30 at the City Council Offices. We have managed to get a slot to speak on the Friday afternoon at 3pm, for 20 minutes. If anyone is free and would like to discuss Wikimedia UK's work at this event, please let us know as it would be great to engage with as many people as possible about sharing knowledge. I'm going anyway, and would be happy to speak as you suggest. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
