Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[John Lubbock]

I agree Richard, it's hard to keep a foot in both camps, but my feeling is
that we probably won't make any great headway on this stuff while we have
no developers on staff. Until then, I think it would be good to improve how
MediaWiki works as much as possible.

John Lubbock

Communications Coordinator

Wikimedia UK

+44 (0) 203 372 0767



Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.

Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge
movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make
knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate
here .

The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
for its contents.*


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 19:46, Richard Nevell 
wrote:

> I wouldn't rule out moving away from MediaWiki. There are alternatives out
> there which are easier to maintain, have compatibility with other services,
> and should require less developer support. It also depends on which
> audience we're trying to serve. MediaWiki is familiar to Wikimedians and
> easy for them to navigate, making it easier for them to get involved. For
> external partners, new volunteers, or inexperienced editors an alternative
> would be preferable. That's why we have a WordPress landing page for the
> website. Trying to accommodate those audiences who have different
> expectations is rather difficult.
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
>> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
>> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
>> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
>> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
>> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
>> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>>
>> If you look at the Special:Version
>>  page on the WMUK site,
>> you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
>> are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
>> person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
>> In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
>> Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
>> reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
>> really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
>> advising what other extensions we should install.
>>
>> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would
>> really like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead
>> paragraph off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At
>> the moment this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The
>> same goes for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has
>> to be updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows
>> how this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.
>>
>> One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
>> workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
>> improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
>> people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
>> willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
>> know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.
>>
>> I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia work
>> and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small grants
>> available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us know
>> what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we can
>> support you.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> John Lubbock
>>
>> Communications Coordinator
>>
>> Wikimedia UK
>>
>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>
>>
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
>> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
>> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
>> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>>
>> The Wikimedia projects are run by the 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Richard Nevell]

I wouldn't rule out moving away from MediaWiki. There are alternatives out
there which are easier to maintain, have compatibility with other services,
and should require less developer support. It also depends on which
audience we're trying to serve. MediaWiki is familiar to Wikimedians and
easy for them to navigate, making it easier for them to get involved. For
external partners, new volunteers, or inexperienced editors an alternative
would be preferable. That's why we have a WordPress landing page for the
website. Trying to accommodate those audiences who have different
expectations is rather difficult.

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
wrote:

> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>
> If you look at the Special:Version
>  page on the WMUK site,
> you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
> are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
> person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
> In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
> Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
> reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
> really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
> advising what other extensions we should install.
>
> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would really
> like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead paragraph
> off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At the moment
> this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The same goes
> for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has to be
> updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows how
> this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.
>
> One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
> workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
> improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
> people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
> willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
> know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.
>
> I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia work
> and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small grants
> available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us know
> what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we can
> support you.
>
> All the best,
>
> John Lubbock
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> Wikimedia UK
>
> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>
>
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>
> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>
> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
> for its contents.*
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Lewis Cawte]

TMH = Timed Media Handler.

Sorry, I forgot not everyone is in the same MW Dev circles...

-- Lewis Cawte

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 16:30 John Lubbock, 
wrote:

> So I'm not quite sure what TMH is Lewis, but I think that we will get Tom
> Morton to do the installs of the extensions, because he's already been
> working on the website.
>
> Perhaps other Wikimedians could suggest what extensions Tom should
> install? The two i mentioned were the Timed Media Handler and Template
> Styles. I'm sure there are others that would be useful though.
>
> John Lubbock
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> Wikimedia UK
>
> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>
>
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>
> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>
> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
> for its contents.*
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 14:21, Lewis Cawte 
> wrote:
>
>> I'd get the contractors to install TMH - while the install itself is
>> relatively simple, configuring it so the Transcode jobs don't kill all the
>> other services is probably something best left to the people with an
>> understanding of all the chapters infrastructure.
>>
>> Looking at the server list, I'd be hesitant to dive straight in it -
>> which is coming from someone who's been running a commercial wiki farm for
>> a number of years.
>>
>> Things like Template Styles are a lot easier...
>>
>> -- Lewis Cawte
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 14:14 Thomas Morton, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There might be some plugins missing post update; a lot of the plugins
>>> dont worl with the new version.
>>>
>>> If you get a list together I can look to get them reinstalled.
>>>
>>>
>>> T
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 12:05 John Lubbock, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone,
 but I believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at
 the moment.

 John Lubbock

 Communications Coordinator

 Wikimedia UK

 +44 (0) 203 372 0767



 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
 and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
 Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.

 Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
 knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
 work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
 Wikimedia UK? Donate here .

 The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
 Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
 non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
 for its contents.*


 On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte 
 wrote:

> In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but
> does the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?
>
> I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure
> this was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?
>
> -- Lewis Cawte
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
>> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
>> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently 
>> as
>> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
>> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
>> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
>> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>>
>> If you look at the Special:Version
>>  page on the WMUK
>> site, you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It
>> appears we are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge
>> MediaWiki person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to
>> install some. In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because
>> there is no Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template
>> Styles for reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be 
>> 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[John Lubbock]

So I'm not quite sure what TMH is Lewis, but I think that we will get Tom
Morton to do the installs of the extensions, because he's already been
working on the website.

Perhaps other Wikimedians could suggest what extensions Tom should install?
The two i mentioned were the Timed Media Handler and Template Styles. I'm
sure there are others that would be useful though.

John Lubbock

Communications Coordinator

Wikimedia UK

+44 (0) 203 372 0767



Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.

Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge
movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make
knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate
here .

The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
for its contents.*


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 14:21, Lewis Cawte  wrote:

> I'd get the contractors to install TMH - while the install itself is
> relatively simple, configuring it so the Transcode jobs don't kill all the
> other services is probably something best left to the people with an
> understanding of all the chapters infrastructure.
>
> Looking at the server list, I'd be hesitant to dive straight in it - which
> is coming from someone who's been running a commercial wiki farm for a
> number of years.
>
> Things like Template Styles are a lot easier...
>
> -- Lewis Cawte
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 14:14 Thomas Morton, 
> wrote:
>
>> There might be some plugins missing post update; a lot of the plugins
>> dont worl with the new version.
>>
>> If you get a list together I can look to get them reinstalled.
>>
>>
>> T
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 12:05 John Lubbock, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone,
>>> but I believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at
>>> the moment.
>>>
>>> John Lubbock
>>>
>>> Communications Coordinator
>>>
>>> Wikimedia UK
>>>
>>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
>>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>>>
>>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
>>> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
>>> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
>>> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
>>> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
>>> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
>>> for its contents.*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but
 does the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?

 I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure
 this was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?

 -- Lewis Cawte

 On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
 wrote:

> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently 
> as
> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>
> If you look at the Special:Version
>  page on the WMUK
> site, you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It
> appears we are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge
> MediaWiki person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to
> install some. In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because
> there is no Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template
> Styles for reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be 
> useful.
> I would really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these
> and/or advising what other extensions we should install.
>
> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would
> really like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Lewis Cawte]

I'd get the contractors to install TMH - while the install itself is
relatively simple, configuring it so the Transcode jobs don't kill all the
other services is probably something best left to the people with an
understanding of all the chapters infrastructure.

Looking at the server list, I'd be hesitant to dive straight in it - which
is coming from someone who's been running a commercial wiki farm for a
number of years.

Things like Template Styles are a lot easier...

-- Lewis Cawte

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 14:14 Thomas Morton, 
wrote:

> There might be some plugins missing post update; a lot of the plugins dont
> worl with the new version.
>
> If you get a list together I can look to get them reinstalled.
>
>
> T
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 12:05 John Lubbock, 
> wrote:
>
>> We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone,
>> but I believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at
>> the moment.
>>
>> John Lubbock
>>
>> Communications Coordinator
>>
>> Wikimedia UK
>>
>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>
>>
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
>> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
>> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
>> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>>
>> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
>> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
>> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
>> for its contents.*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but
>>> does the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?
>>>
>>> I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure this
>>> was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?
>>>
>>> -- Lewis Cawte
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
 Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
 discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
 a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
 gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
 user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
 with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.

 If you look at the Special:Version
  page on the WMUK site,
 you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
 are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
 person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
 In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
 Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
 reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
 really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
 advising what other extensions we should install.

 The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would
 really like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead
 paragraph off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At
 the moment this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The
 same goes for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has
 to be updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows
 how this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.

 One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
 workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
 improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
 people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
 willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
 know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.

 I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia
 work and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small
 grants available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us
 know what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we
 can support you.

 All the best,

 John Lubbock

 Communications Coordinator

 Wikimedia UK

 +44 (0) 203 372 0767

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Thomas Morton]

(help also welcomed!)

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 14:14 Thomas Morton, 
wrote:

> There might be some plugins missing post update; a lot of the plugins dont
> worl with the new version.
>
> If you get a list together I can look to get them reinstalled.
>
>
> T
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 12:05 John Lubbock, 
> wrote:
>
>> We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone,
>> but I believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at
>> the moment.
>>
>> John Lubbock
>>
>> Communications Coordinator
>>
>> Wikimedia UK
>>
>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>
>>
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
>> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
>> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
>> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>>
>> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
>> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
>> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
>> for its contents.*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but
>>> does the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?
>>>
>>> I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure this
>>> was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?
>>>
>>> -- Lewis Cawte
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
 Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
 discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
 a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
 gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
 user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
 with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.

 If you look at the Special:Version
  page on the WMUK site,
 you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
 are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
 person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
 In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
 Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
 reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
 really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
 advising what other extensions we should install.

 The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would
 really like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead
 paragraph off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At
 the moment this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The
 same goes for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has
 to be updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows
 how this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.

 One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
 workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
 improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
 people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
 willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
 know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.

 I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia
 work and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small
 grants available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us
 know what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we
 can support you.

 All the best,

 John Lubbock

 Communications Coordinator

 Wikimedia UK

 +44 (0) 203 372 0767



 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
 and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
 Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.

 Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
 knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
 work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
 Wikimedia 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Thomas Morton]

There might be some plugins missing post update; a lot of the plugins dont
worl with the new version.

If you get a list together I can look to get them reinstalled.

T

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 12:05 John Lubbock, 
wrote:

> We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone, but
> I believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at the
> moment.
>
> John Lubbock
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> Wikimedia UK
>
> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>
>
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>
> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>
> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
> for its contents.*
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte 
> wrote:
>
>> In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but
>> does the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?
>>
>> I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure this
>> was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?
>>
>> -- Lewis Cawte
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
>>> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
>>> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
>>> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
>>> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
>>> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
>>> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>>>
>>> If you look at the Special:Version
>>>  page on the WMUK site,
>>> you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
>>> are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
>>> person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
>>> In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
>>> Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
>>> reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
>>> really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
>>> advising what other extensions we should install.
>>>
>>> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would
>>> really like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead
>>> paragraph off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At
>>> the moment this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The
>>> same goes for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has
>>> to be updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows
>>> how this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.
>>>
>>> One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
>>> workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
>>> improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
>>> people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
>>> willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
>>> know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.
>>>
>>> I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia work
>>> and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small grants
>>> available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us know
>>> what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we can
>>> support you.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> John Lubbock
>>>
>>> Communications Coordinator
>>>
>>> Wikimedia UK
>>>
>>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
>>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>>>
>>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
>>> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
>>> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
>>> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>>>
>>> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
>>> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Anthony (AGK)]

Hi John

If there is an existing instance of MediaWiki, I would be happy to volunteer a 
few hours to install the extensions you are missing, update to the latest 
version, and make any other changes I think are within my abilities.

I’m not a professional techie but I’ve installed MediaWiki on several occasions 
and maintain a couple of instances for work.

I will pull together a brief of the updates/changes for your approval, if you 
still need the help.

Best regards,
Anthony

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 12:04, John Lubbock  wrote:
> 
> We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone, but I 
> believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at the 
> moment.
> John Lubbock
> 
> Communications Coordinator
> 
> Wikimedia UK
> 
> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
> 
>  
> 
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, 
> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. 
> 
> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge 
> movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make 
> knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate 
> here.
> 
> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate 
> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit 
> charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its 
> contents.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte  wrote:
>> In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but does 
>> the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?
>> 
>> I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure this was 
>> a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?
>> 
>> -- Lewis Cawte
>> 
>>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock,  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the 
>>> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was 
>>> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as 
>>> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently 
>>> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more 
>>> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that 
>>> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>>> 
>>> If you look at the Special:Version page on the WMUK site, you can see all 
>>> the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we are lacking many 
>>> that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki person I wonder if 
>>> anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some. In particular, we 
>>> cannot display video on the site, because there is no Timed Media Handler 
>>> extension. We probably also need Template Styles for reactive tables, and 
>>> there's probably more that would be useful. I would really appreciate if 
>>> anybody could offer help in installing these and/or advising what other 
>>> extensions we should install.
>>> 
>>> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would really 
>>> like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead paragraph 
>>> off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At the moment 
>>> this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The same goes 
>>> for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has to be 
>>> updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows how 
>>> this could be achieved, we would be very grateful. 
>>> 
>>> One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day 
>>> workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on 
>>> improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if 
>>> people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be 
>>> willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me 
>>> know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.
>>> 
>>> I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia work 
>>> and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small grants 
>>> available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us know 
>>> what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we can 
>>> support you.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> John Lubbock
>>> 
>>> Communications Coordinator
>>> 
>>> Wikimedia UK
>>> 
>>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
>>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, 
>>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. 
>>> 
>>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge 
>>> movement. We rely on donations from 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[John Lubbock]

We don't have any technologists on staff. We contract work to someone, but
I believe they are pretty fully occupied with some back end issues at the
moment.

John Lubbock

Communications Coordinator

Wikimedia UK

+44 (0) 203 372 0767



Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.

Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge
movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make
knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate
here .

The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
for its contents.*


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:56, Lewis Cawte  wrote:

> In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but does
> the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?
>
> I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure this
> was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?
>
> -- Lewis Cawte
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
>> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
>> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
>> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
>> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
>> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
>> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>>
>> If you look at the Special:Version
>>  page on the WMUK site,
>> you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
>> are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
>> person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
>> In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
>> Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
>> reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
>> really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
>> advising what other extensions we should install.
>>
>> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would
>> really like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead
>> paragraph off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At
>> the moment this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The
>> same goes for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has
>> to be updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows
>> how this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.
>>
>> One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
>> workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
>> improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
>> people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
>> willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
>> know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.
>>
>> I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia work
>> and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small grants
>> available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us know
>> what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we can
>> support you.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> John Lubbock
>>
>> Communications Coordinator
>>
>> Wikimedia UK
>>
>> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>>
>>
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
>> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
>> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
>> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
>> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>>
>> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
>> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
>> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
>> for its contents.*
>> ___
>> Wikimedia UK mailing list
>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
>
> 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website help

[Lewis Cawte]

In place of a more useful researched answer (as I'm in a lecture) but does
the chapter not employ/contract people to manage the websites and IT?

I'm a bit out of touch with chapter things these days, but I'm sure this
was a thing that the contractors used to handle for staff?

-- Lewis Cawte

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 11:35 John Lubbock, 
wrote:

> Hi all, this is an email to ask for help and advice on improving the
> Wikimedia UK websiite. Speaking to RexX recently at an event, I was
> discussing some of the issues we are having with the UK website recently as
> a result of it not being updated much. Some other chapters have recently
> gone down the path of moving away from MediaWiki to make their sites more
> user friendly, but I don't think we want to do that and I feel sure that
> with a bit of effort we could make our MediaWiki site look a lot nicer.
>
> If you look at the Special:Version
>  page on the WMUK site,
> you can see all the extensions that are installed currently. It appears we
> are lacking many that would be useful, and not being a huge MediaWiki
> person I wonder if anybody could lend a hand with helping to install some.
> In particular, we cannot display video on the site, because there is no
> Timed Media Handler extension. We probably also need Template Styles for
> reactive tables, and there's probably more that would be useful. I would
> really appreciate if anybody could offer help in installing these and/or
> advising what other extensions we should install.
>
> The website really needs quite a lot of work, but one thing I would really
> like to be able to do is to automate scraping the image and lead paragraph
> off blog posts and having it go onto the WMUK main Wiki page. At the moment
> this needs to be done manually and this is quite annoying. The same goes
> for the events list on the main Wiki page, which constantly has to be
> updated and duplicated from the Events page. Again, if anybody knows how
> this could be achieved, we would be very grateful.
>
> One idea I'd like to suggest for doing this is to have a WMUK one day
> workshop with anybody who is interested to meet up and work with us on
> improving the site. I would be happy to organise this and arrange it if
> people would like to attend help us improve the site. If you would be
> willing to willing to come to London for this kind of event, please let me
> know so I can get an idea of how many people might come and help out.
>
> I hope that Wikimedia UK can also be here to support your Wikimedia work
> and projects, so please bear in mind that there are always small grants
> available for expenses to cover members' projects, so please let us know
> what interesting things you have been doing and if there is any way we can
> support you.
>
> All the best,
>
> John Lubbock
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> Wikimedia UK
>
> +44 (0) 203 372 0767
>
>
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1,
> Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ.
>
> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open
> knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our
> work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting
> Wikimedia UK? Donate here .
>
> The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
> Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent
> non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility
> for its contents.*
> ___
> Wikimedia UK mailing list
> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
___
Wikimedia UK mailing list
wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk