Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
comment seems to have been deleted? doesnt show at the bottom and this _was_ the link: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,101161,39616171-39001105c-20100584o,00.htm regards mark 2009/2/20 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com 2009/2/20 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,100097,39616171,00.htm I added a very pointed comment indeed. - d. Nice. -- Alex (User:Majorly) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
2009/2/20 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com: 2009/2/20 Mark (Markie) newsmar...@googlemail.com comment seems to have been deleted? doesnt show at the bottom and this _was_ the link: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,101161,39616171-39001105c-20100584o,00.htm Strange. David did you delete it? No, I certainly didn't. Looks like ZDNet did. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
2009/2/20 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com: Oh dear. Well, mind posting what you wrote here? I read it, but closed the tab... I didn't save it myself! I've left another comment asking WTF happened to the first one and asking if they want to phone me for verification. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
2009/2/20 geni geni...@gmail.com: They probably do it's just there are rather a lot of ways out there of organising your website and they didn't immediately pick up on which one wikipedia uses. You mean they didn't right click on the image and click properties? That seems pretty incompetent to me... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
2009/2/20 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/2/20 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/2/20 geni geni...@gmail.com: They probably do it's just there are rather a lot of ways out there of organising your website and they didn't immediately pick up on which one wikipedia uses. You mean they didn't right click on the image and click properties? That seems pretty incompetent to me... Wouldn't work. That for example would block http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/33/Virgin_Killer.jpg/200px-Virgin_Killer.jpg but not http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Virgin_Killer.jpg. Given that this is wikipedia there is also no particular reason to expect the image to stay in the same place. True, but they didn't even do that, as I understand it. They should at least be blocking the image that is actually used on the page. I can't see any reason for them to be blocking non-image files at all, why block the html file when the only infringement is the image? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
2009/2/20 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/2/20 Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org: I have not, and would not, actively seek out child pornography. However, I have a clue about how the modern Internet works. Any semi-intelligent publisher of child pornography is going to use things like hidden services on Tor. The IWF has zero impact on that; they might as well have a mission to target drug dealers who advertise in local newspapers. The IWF effectively has two missions. The IWF has one mission: keep the Government off the ISPs' backs. It was formed by the Government as an alternative to hamfisted State regulation. (As it happens, it's also hamfisted. But anyway.) - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
2009/2/20 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/2/20 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Many of the problems are with that list. The list contains html pages, not images (at least, not exclusively), and not even the right html pages (they never blocked the [[Image:...]] page). If the government ran it, they would be accountable, IWF aren't. The Today programme and Channel 4 News worked pretty well for bringing them to account ;-p Not as reliable as formal avenues, of course. Of course - everyone can be sued in the court of public opinion. The High Court would be preferable, though. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
