Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-17 Thread Basil George
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Matthew Flaschen
wrote:

> On 02/16/2013 01:50 PM, Basil George wrote:
> > *We have tried to address the privacy issues in obtaining IPs
> > here<
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Suggester_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies#Addressing_privacy_concerns
> >.
> > As we have mentioned, no personal information of individual editors other
> > than their rough geographical locations (at state/country level) will be
> > used and displayed.
>
> Please see my detailed reply at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Suggester_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies#Addressing_privacy_concerns
>
> Bottom line, under the privacy policy this is only okay for logged out
> users, and logged in users who opt in.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
> If there is no way of obtaining the IPs of registered users from history
page, then we propose a few changes to the project idea
(talk<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Suggester_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies#Addressing_privacy_concerns>
):* Support the visualizer app only to those pages having large number of
edits so that cross-referencing users with geographical locations become
difficult.* Use only those IPs which are publicly available (unregistered
editor IPs & registered editor IPs who have chosen to make them public).Though
these changes may dilute the overall project idea, we still consider the
implementation of this project helpful for future geo-spatial research and
development of Wikimedia projects. The source code of this project may help
in the implementation of many other projects that may require rendering and
analysis of information on maps etc.Thanks and regards,

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Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Basil George
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Brian Wolff  wrote:

> First off its nice to see technical ieg's being proposed.
>
> How do you plan to gelocate logged in users. Logged in user's ips are
> considered sensitive and your tool will not have access to them to do geo
> ip stuff on. You could maybe try and process user pages but that sounds
> difficult.
>
> -bawolff
>
*We have tried to address the privacy issues in obtaining IPs
here.
As we have mentioned, no personal information of individual editors other
than their rough geographical locations (at state/country level) will be
used and displayed.
If the tool is deployed as a MediaWiki gadget, we guess it will be
installed on the server where the MediaWiki is hosted. Will there still be
privacy issues in obtaining the IPs?
In the standalone case where the tool will be used as an independent
application, is there any way of obtaining the IPs without violating the
privacy terms?*

Thanks,
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[Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Basil George
Hi all
I am Basil George, a research scholar at IIIT, Hyderabad<http://iiit.ac.in/>,
India. I have submitted an IEG proposal to build a tool for easy
visualization of revision histories of Wikipedia pages along with their
relevant statistics by rendering them onto a map. The tool will also
provide suggestions as to which geographical areas lack editors on a
particular topic. Free and open source geo-spatial technologies will be
used for this project which, we hope, will encourage  more technology
developers to pitch in and contribute to developing Wikimedia.

Please go through the proposal
here<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Mapping_History:_Revision_History_Visualizer_and_Improvement_Tracker_using_Geo-Spatial_Technologies>
and
do endorse it if you find it interesting.

Looking forward to a good discussion.

Thanks and regards,

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