Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
On 03/20/2013 10:43 AM, Jasper Wallace wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, MZMcBride wrote: P.S. mailman: there's a non-ASCII character in the subject line. Attack! Why? It's correctly encoded: Because the way the subject line is displayed 3 different ways on the archive page: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-March/thread.html#67742 There we have: Gerrit =?utf-8?Q?Wars=E2=84=A2=3A_?=a strategy-guide Gerrit =?UTF-8?B?V2Fyc+KEog==?=: a strategy-guide Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide I wouldn't be surprised if my message creates a fourth way. -- http://hexmode.com/ [We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance. -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
Ori's advice rings true with me. It's something I need to get better at. On the email titiel sidetrack, it should not create a 4th way. Without verifying them those all look like valid representations of the same data. MIME encoded word syntax only has two possible encodings, quoted printable and base 64. The one with the Q after UTF-8 should be the quoted printable version. The one with the B after UTF-8 has been encoded as base64 instead. Of course it's possible somebody's client or MTA has munged them but the point of encoded word is that even if you only speak RFC2822 and not RFC2047(?) you can still transmit them correctly. Luke Welling On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.orgwrote: On 03/20/2013 10:43 AM, Jasper Wallace wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, MZMcBride wrote: P.S. mailman: there's a non-ASCII character in the subject line. Attack! Why? It's correctly encoded: Because the way the subject line is displayed 3 different ways on the archive page: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-March/thread.html#67742 There we have: Gerrit =?utf-8?Q?Wars=E2=84=A2=3A_?=a strategy-guide Gerrit =?UTF-8?B?V2Fyc+KEog==?=: a strategy-guide Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide I wouldn't be surprised if my message creates a fourth way. -- http://hexmode.com/ [We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance. -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jasper Wallace jas...@pointless.netwrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, MZMcBride wrote: P.S. mailman: there's a non-ASCII character in the subject line. Attack! Why? It's correctly encoded: Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit =?UTF-8?B?V2Fyc+KEog==?=: a strategy-guide Actually, that one is not. There must be a space between the ?= and the colon. The same goes for Ori's [Wikitech-l] Gerrit =?utf-8?Q?Wars=E2=84=A2=3A_?=a strategy-guide, there must be a space between the ?= and the a. RFC 2047, section 5. -- Brad Jorsch Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
Ori, now you can add another point to the concise strategy-guide: Deeper posts tend to generate superficial and tangential replies. The answer is Silence. PS: thank you for the post, I enjoyed it. -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, MZMcBride wrote: P.S. mailman: there's a non-ASCII character in the subject line. Attack! Why? It's correctly encoded: Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit =?UTF-8?B?V2Fyc+KEog==?=: a strategy-guide -- [http://pointless.net/] [0x2ECA0975] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
In a little over a month I will have been a MediaWiki developer for a full year. Some unpleasantness earlier today provided a good occasion to reflect on some of what I've learned since last spring. I have decided to do so publicly, in my characteristic obnoxious and attention-seeking manner. The upshot of MediaWiki being so thoroughly crufty is that there is never any shortage of places that need some love. There is no shortage of opportunities to have an impact. It is entirely possible to work at a rapid clip and get a lot done, as long as you are prepared for the possibility that any specific project could hit a blocker and be stalled for a while. When the path forward is blocked, let the matter drop for a while and turn your attention to something else. Come back to it with a fresh and open mind. That is how you win: not with overwhelming firepower, but with lots of patience and a light touch. Having a sense of humor helps, too. -- Ori Livneh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Wars™: a strategy-guide
Ori Livneh wrote: When the path forward is blocked, let the matter drop for a while and turn your attention to something else. Come back to it with a fresh and open mind. That is how you win: not with overwhelming firepower, but with lots of patience and a light touch. Having a sense of humor helps, too. Amen. :-) When I look at the people who manage to stay around for a long time, they're the ones who are capable of assuming good faith and occasionally walking away when things get heated. Wiki diplomacy happens at about the same rate as non-wiki diplomacy, I've found. Sometimes you have to be a little bit more non-profit and a little bit less tech. ;-) Congrats on your first MediaWiki developer birthday! To many more birthdays in the years to come. MZMcBride P.S. mailman: there's a non-ASCII character in the subject line. Attack! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
