Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
OK, it sounds like the fuzziness with prioritization, perhaps with the exception of "unbreak now", isn't worth the effort to harmonize globally because doing so would require nontrivial effort for questionable gain. Thanks for clarifying. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Pine W wrote: > Hi Gergo, > > I understand that it might take 2 hours to complete a priority X task that > has been open for 2 years, but depending on the definition of "high" > priority, it seems to me that the median high priority task should be open > for fewer than 2 years. > > Maybe this is a complex enough topic that it would be better discussed > during one of the regular technology office hours. Do you have a suggestion > about which office hour would be most appropriate, if you think that an > office hour would be a good venue for a discussion? It is also not completely obvious, but useful to remember, that phabricator.wikimedia.org is a shared service used by many organizations, teams, and individuals participating in the Wikimedia movement's technical spaces. This in turn means that there is no canonical workflow, no single 'owner' of determining process and procedure, and no simple way to measure trends. Any patterns that any of us think we see in global aggregate numbers such as those in this report should be taken with a whole handful of salt rather than just a pinch. :) Think of this report the same way you would think of a report by GitLab, BitBucket, or GitHub about activity across all of their hosted projects and tracking boards. Bryan -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Manager, Technical EngagementBoise, ID USA irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:42 PM Stas Malyshev wrote: > Yes, it looks more the case of "we thought it's a high priority task but > turned out it's not" rather than "we take a long time to do high > priority tasks". I.e. maybe we need to have some rules around removing > tasks from "High" if it's clear we're not doing it anytime soon. > More generally, if 10% of your high priority tasks take a year to finish, and 90% take a day, the median open task age will be around half a year (even though the median time to finish a task is a day). It's not really a useful measure. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Hi! >> and "high"? The reason that I ask is that a median age of 738 days for >> "high" priority tasks seems very long. I would hope that we would not take >> two years to complete "high" priority tasks. >> > > The median age of open priority X tasks is not the same as the median time > it takes to complete priority X tasks. Yes, it looks more the case of "we thought it's a high priority task but turned out it's not" rather than "we take a long time to do high priority tasks". I.e. maybe we need to have some rules around removing tasks from "High" if it's clear we're not doing it anytime soon. -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Hi Gergo, I understand that it might take 2 hours to complete a priority X task that has been open for 2 years, but depending on the definition of "high" priority, it seems to me that the median high priority task should be open for fewer than 2 years. Maybe this is a complex enough topic that it would be better discussed during one of the regular technology office hours. Do you have a suggestion about which office hour would be most appropriate, if you think that an office hour would be a good venue for a discussion? Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:14 PM Pine W wrote: > > > Thanks for the updated statistics. I wonder, was there ever an agreement > on > > how to standardize the definitions for priorities, such as "unbreak now" > > and "high"? The reason that I ask is that a median age of 738 days for > > "high" priority tasks seems very long. I would hope that we would not > take > > two years to complete "high" priority tasks. > > > > The median age of open priority X tasks is not the same as the median time > it takes to complete priority X tasks. > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:14 PM Pine W wrote: > Thanks for the updated statistics. I wonder, was there ever an agreement on > how to standardize the definitions for priorities, such as "unbreak now" > and "high"? The reason that I ask is that a median age of 738 days for > "high" priority tasks seems very long. I would hope that we would not take > two years to complete "high" priority tasks. > The median age of open priority X tasks is not the same as the median time it takes to complete priority X tasks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Thanks for the updated statistics. I wonder, was there ever an agreement on how to standardize the definitions for priorities, such as "unbreak now" and "high"? The reason that I ask is that a median age of 738 days for "high" priority tasks seems very long. I would hope that we would not take two years to complete "high" priority tasks. Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:39 AM, wrote: > > Hi Community Metrics team, > > This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. > > Accounts created in (2018-07): 293 > Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2018-07): 912 > Task authors in (2018-07): 473 > Users who have closed tasks in (2018-07): 325 > > Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on > their workboard in (2018-07): 294 > > Tasks created in (2018-07): 2315 > Tasks closed in (2018-07): 4020 > Open and stalled tasks in total: 38936 > > Median age in days of open tasks by priority: > > Unbreak now: 6 > Needs Triage: 420 > High: 738 > Normal: 965 > Low: 1261 > Lowest: 1222 > > (How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority) > > Active Differential users (any activity) in (2018-07): 21 > > TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as > described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 . > > Yours sincerely, > Fab Rick Aytor > > (via community_metrics.sh on phab1001 at Wed Aug 1 09:39:50 UTC 2018) > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Hi Community Metrics team, This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. Accounts created in (2018-07): 293 Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2018-07): 912 Task authors in (2018-07): 473 Users who have closed tasks in (2018-07): 325 Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2018-07): 294 Tasks created in (2018-07): 2315 Tasks closed in (2018-07): 4020 Open and stalled tasks in total: 38936 Median age in days of open tasks by priority: Unbreak now: 6 Needs Triage: 420 High: 738 Normal: 965 Low: 1261 Lowest: 1222 (How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority) Active Differential users (any activity) in (2018-07): 21 TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 . Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor (via community_metrics.sh on phab1001 at Wed Aug 1 09:39:50 UTC 2018) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Hello, We suffered an unexpected issue with the phabricator database replica, which I believe it is used to generate these stats. We will hopefully have it back up today and we can re-run the script. Sorry for the inconveniences, Manuel. On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:01 AM, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Hi. All the data seems to be irrelevant - either empty or maximum. > Igal (User:IKhitron) > > > On Aug 1, 2018 03:00, wrote: > > > Hi Community Metrics team, > > This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. > > Accounts created in (2018-07): > Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2018-07): > Task authors in (2018-07): > Users who have closed tasks in (2018-07): > > Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on > their workboard in (2018-07): > > Tasks created in (2018-07): > Tasks closed in (2018-07): > Open and stalled tasks in total: > > Median age in days of open tasks by priority: > > Unbreak now: 0 > Needs Triage: 17744 > High: 17744 > Normal: 17744 > Low: 17744 > Lowest: 17744 > > (How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority) > > Active Differential users (any activity) in (2018-07): > > TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as > described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 . > > Yours sincerely, > Fab Rick Aytor > > (via community_metrics.sh on phab1001 at Wed Aug 1 00:00:01 UTC 2018) > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Hi. All the data seems to be irrelevant - either empty or maximum. Igal (User:IKhitron) On Aug 1, 2018 03:00, wrote: Hi Community Metrics team, This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. Accounts created in (2018-07): Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2018-07): Task authors in (2018-07): Users who have closed tasks in (2018-07): Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2018-07): Tasks created in (2018-07): Tasks closed in (2018-07): Open and stalled tasks in total: Median age in days of open tasks by priority: Unbreak now: 0 Needs Triage: 17744 High: 17744 Normal: 17744 Low: 17744 Lowest: 17744 (How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority) Active Differential users (any activity) in (2018-07): TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 . Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor (via community_metrics.sh on phab1001 at Wed Aug 1 00:00:01 UTC 2018) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07
Hi Community Metrics team, This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. Accounts created in (2018-07): Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2018-07): Task authors in (2018-07): Users who have closed tasks in (2018-07): Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2018-07): Tasks created in (2018-07): Tasks closed in (2018-07): Open and stalled tasks in total: Median age in days of open tasks by priority: Unbreak now: 0 Needs Triage: 17744 High: 17744 Normal: 17744 Low: 17744 Lowest: 17744 (How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority) Active Differential users (any activity) in (2018-07): TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 . Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor (via community_metrics.sh on phab1001 at Wed Aug 1 00:00:01 UTC 2018) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
