[Wikitech-l] Relaxing our TorBlock
https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/342922052841377793 Why not - would the patrol cost really be too high? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Relaxing our TorBlock
On 7 June 2013 16:43, Asher Feldman afeld...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/342922052841377793 Why not - would the patrol cost really be too high? Are you asking that question as a patroller? If not, then you should probably ask on the wikis first. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Relaxing our TorBlock
On 06/07/2013 08:43 AM, Asher Feldman wrote: https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/342922052841377793 Why not - would the patrol cost really be too high? Discussion from December: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/323006 Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits? -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Relaxing our TorBlock
Ah, thanks Sumana! On Friday, June 7, 2013, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 06/07/2013 08:43 AM, Asher Feldman wrote: https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/342922052841377793 Why not - would the patrol cost really be too high? Discussion from December: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/323006 Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits? -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Relaxing our TorBlock
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Asher Feldman afeld...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/342922052841377793 Why not - would the patrol cost really be too high? What I've heard is that the edits from tor were over 90% spam/vandalism, so the IPs get blocked pretty quickly. Torblock (the tool) lets us do it preemptively. Unfortunately, removing the blocks to test those assumptions could generate a lot more work for our already overworked vandalism fighters, so I would be hesitant to even test it. But if someone has a wiki, and wants to setup torblock with an abusefilter rule to tag edits from tor nodes, and measure the spam/ham ratios, I would be interested in the results. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Relaxing our TorBlock
On 06/07/2013 11:43 AM, Asher Feldman wrote: Why not - would the patrol cost really be too high? I can only speak for enwp, of course, but with my experience as a checkuser and arb there (and a couple years as an admin before that) I can say without a doubt that I would strenuously oppose relaxing TOR restrictions: I have never seen a TOR exit node used for legitimate purposes, ever, with the notable exception of a handful (less than 10) editors who had been carefully vetoed prior. In fact, even some of those supposedly legitimate editors have fallen to the lure of easy socking when given the opportunity. That said, however, there are geopolitical concerns that may well justify the cost for /some/ projects. I could see why zhwiki might well feel the balance tips the other way, for instance. -- Marc ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
