Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
So an update. I'm pretty sure I've worked this out. CentralAuth will only work if the user has previously visited the wiki project the login attempt is made for. Many browsers these days refuse cookies for sites the user has not visited. I'm still investigating but I'm pretty sure an image to a URL counts as a previous visit. On 28 Feb 2013 13:07, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 02/27/2013 05:13 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. We use the same protocol. We enforce HTTPS after login, and later use protocol agnostic URLs. -- Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
From what I *understand* you don't have an account on the local wiki until you visit there. Could perhaps whatever api methods used by the app not be triggering this auto-account-creation process properly like a normal web interface edit would? -bawolff On 2013-03-05 11:17 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: So an update. I'm pretty sure I've worked this out. CentralAuth will only work if the user has previously visited the wiki project the login attempt is made for. Many browsers these days refuse cookies for sites the user has not visited. I'm still investigating but I'm pretty sure an image to a URL counts as a previous visit. On 28 Feb 2013 13:07, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 02/27/2013 05:13 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. We use the same protocol. We enforce HTTPS after login, and later use protocol agnostic URLs. -- Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
Just for the record, sorry for not posting it right away: Chris Steipp found the issue in my case to be the enabled Block third-party cookies and site data chrome setting. Even though this is not default at the moment, apparently Firefox is thinking of making this a default. Enabling it breaks the cross site family logins (but not cross-language) logins. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: From what I *understand* you don't have an account on the local wiki until you visit there. Could perhaps whatever api methods used by the app not be triggering this auto-account-creation process properly like a normal web interface edit would? -bawolff On 2013-03-05 11:17 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: So an update. I'm pretty sure I've worked this out. CentralAuth will only work if the user has previously visited the wiki project the login attempt is made for. Many browsers these days refuse cookies for sites the user has not visited. I'm still investigating but I'm pretty sure an image to a URL counts as a previous visit. On 28 Feb 2013 13:07, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 02/27/2013 05:13 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. We use the same protocol. We enforce HTTPS after login, and later use protocol agnostic URLs. -- Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
On 02/27/2013 06:36 PM, Chris Steipp wrote: I'm not able to reproduce the error (auto login is working for me) in Chrome 25 or Firefox. If someone is still able to reproduce this, can you let me know if: * The images from various Special:AutoLogin pages are loading when you login * You do (or don't) have a centralauth_Session cookie * You do (or don't) have a wiki specific session cookie, such as commonswiki_session for commons https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45578 -- Juliusz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
On 02/27/2013 05:13 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote: Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. We use the same protocol. We enforce HTTPS after login, and later use protocol agnostic URLs. -- Juliusz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
I am seeing this issue right now on desktop - I am logged in into en-wiki, and all other languages works, but the moment i switch to commons / wikiversity / wikiquote / etc, i need to login. Seems like all the cross-site is broken (has it even worked before?) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi, Yesterday we released photo uploads in mobile (actually moved it from beta to stable). We're logging errors we get when people try to upload photos and it seems the most common one is that they're not logged in to Commons even though they logged in to Wikipedia. It seems to be happening quite randomly and doesn't seem to depend on any particular browser. We're not sure how to debug this. Have any similar issues ever happened on desktop (people not being logged in to other projects)? Is there anyone who has a good knowledge of how CentralAuth works and could help us? Thanks, Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeing this issue right now on desktop - I am logged in into en-wiki, and all other languages works, but the moment i switch to commons / wikiversity / wikiquote / etc, i need to login. Seems like all the cross-site is broken (has it even worked before?) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi, Yesterday we released photo uploads in mobile (actually moved it from beta to stable). We're logging errors we get when people try to upload photos and it seems the most common one is that they're not logged in to Commons even though they logged in to Wikipedia. It seems to be happening quite randomly and doesn't seem to depend on any particular browser. We're not sure how to debug this. Have any similar issues ever happened on desktop (people not being logged in to other projects)? Is there anyone who has a good knowledge of how CentralAuth works and could help us? Thanks, Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Pavel Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
I am not sure how i logged in initially, probably http, but i just logged in into http://meta.wikimedia.org to test, and that didn't get me into the other sites like http://en.wikiquote.org/ (all http, no https). I'm using (alpha?) chrome Version 27.0.1423.0 canary On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.comwrote: Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeing this issue right now on desktop - I am logged in into en-wiki, and all other languages works, but the moment i switch to commons / wikiversity / wikiquote / etc, i need to login. Seems like all the cross-site is broken (has it even worked before?) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, Yesterday we released photo uploads in mobile (actually moved it from beta to stable). We're logging errors we get when people try to upload photos and it seems the most common one is that they're not logged in to Commons even though they logged in to Wikipedia. It seems to be happening quite randomly and doesn't seem to depend on any particular browser. We're not sure how to debug this. Have any similar issues ever happened on desktop (people not being logged in to other projects)? Is there anyone who has a good knowledge of how CentralAuth works and could help us? Thanks, Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Pavel Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
Update: I think its fully repeatable - in chrome's incognito mode (Ctrl+Shift+N) - logged in into http en.wiki, tested in ru.wiki and zh.wiki -- worked fine. Switched to non *.wikipedia.org urls - fail. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.comwrote: I am not sure how i logged in initially, probably http, but i just logged in into http://meta.wikimedia.org to test, and that didn't get me into the other sites like http://en.wikiquote.org/ (all http, no https). I'm using (alpha?) chrome Version 27.0.1423.0 canary On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.comwrote: Do you use the same protocol in Wikipedia and other projects? When I first log in via HTTPS and then somehow get to HTTP, I need to log in. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeing this issue right now on desktop - I am logged in into en-wiki, and all other languages works, but the moment i switch to commons / wikiversity / wikiquote / etc, i need to login. Seems like all the cross-site is broken (has it even worked before?) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, Yesterday we released photo uploads in mobile (actually moved it from beta to stable). We're logging errors we get when people try to upload photos and it seems the most common one is that they're not logged in to Commons even though they logged in to Wikipedia. It seems to be happening quite randomly and doesn't seem to depend on any particular browser. We're not sure how to debug this. Have any similar issues ever happened on desktop (people not being logged in to other projects)? Is there anyone who has a good knowledge of how CentralAuth works and could help us? Thanks, Juliusz __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Pavel Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
On 02/27/2013 08:29 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Update: I think its fully repeatable - in chrome's incognito mode (Ctrl+Shift+N) - logged in into http en.wiki, tested in ru.wiki and zh.wiki -- worked fine. Switched to non *.wikipedia.org urls - fail. It is working for me on HTTPS in Firefox (checked with en Wikipedia and en Wiktionary). Anyway, please file a bug (or find an appropriate one). Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CentralAuth in MobileFrontend
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 02/27/2013 08:29 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Update: I think its fully repeatable - in chrome's incognito mode (Ctrl+Shift+N) - logged in into http en.wiki, tested in ru.wiki and zh.wiki -- worked fine. Switched to non *.wikipedia.org urls - fail. It is working for me on HTTPS in Firefox (checked with en Wikipedia and en Wiktionary). I'm not able to reproduce the error (auto login is working for me) in Chrome 25 or Firefox. If someone is still able to reproduce this, can you let me know if: * The images from various Special:AutoLogin pages are loading when you login * You do (or don't) have a centralauth_Session cookie * You do (or don't) have a wiki specific session cookie, such as commonswiki_session for commons ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
