Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Claudio Pisa]

Hi.
I just managed to catch up with the latest e-mails. Replying below.


On 12/22/2016 05:54 PM, Ilario wrote:
> 2016-12-22 15:35 GMT+01:00 Ruben :
>> It seems, like the entry form on the map dowe not work correctly
>> at http://map.ninux.org/ we already added a potential node there, but no
>> success.
> 
> I tried to add a test node on old mapserver (map.ninux.org) and I got an 
> error:
> "Non è stato possibile inviare il messaggio perchè il server di posta
> in uscita è temporaneamente irraggiungibile. Si prega di riprovare più
> tardi. Ci scusiamo per l'inconveniente."

Thanks for reporting! The server was short of memory so it killed some
processes :( But it should be working again now.


> Creating it on the new map server (ninux.nodeshot.org) worked.
> 
>> And if we manage to enter it, how do we get the data there, so it is
>> shown in green?
> 
> You will have to ask to a map server admin to change the color.
> Usually a request mail to conta...@ninux.org is what people do for this.

We usually turn nodes to green/active on map.ninux.org when the
installation is complete, and the process is manual at the moment. So if
your node(s) are active, just tell us the name(s).


ciao!
Clauz


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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Ilario]

2016-12-22 15:35 GMT+01:00 Ruben :
> It seems, like the entry form on the map dowe not work correctly
> at http://map.ninux.org/ we already added a potential node there, but no
> success.

I tried to add a test node on old mapserver (map.ninux.org) and I got an error:
"Non è stato possibile inviare il messaggio perchè il server di posta
in uscita è temporaneamente irraggiungibile. Si prega di riprovare più
tardi. Ci scusiamo per l'inconveniente."
Creating it on the new map server (ninux.nodeshot.org) worked.

> And if we manage to enter it, how do we get the data there, so it is
> shown in green?

You will have to ask to a map server admin to change the color.
Usually a request mail to conta...@ninux.org is what people do for this.
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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Ruben]

ok, cool,

But how do we get our nodes on the ninux online map visible and in
green? It seems, like the entry form on the map dowe not work correctly
at http://map.ninux.org/ we already added a potential node there, but no
success.
And if we manage to enter it, how do we get the data there, so it is
shown in green?

On 22.12.2016 11:52, Leonardo Maccari wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-12-22 at 09:15 +0100, Saverio Proto wrote:
>> Hello Ruben,
>>
>> I would say there is nothing like that VPN service at moment implemented in 
>> Ninux.
>>
>> Also, we usually make work to provide Internet access only in areas of 
>> digital divide, this is not the case of the center of Venice.
>>
>> I would say the best is to go with Gluon and the Freifunk VPN in Venice, 
>> there is no problem for us. It is not like that you have to call the thing 
>> Ninux at all cost because you are in Italy.
>>  
> 
> I add that if you use gluon and FF VPN and want to call it ninux, 
> we are happy as well.
> 
> l.
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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Leonardo Maccari]

On Thu, 2016-12-22 at 09:15 +0100, Saverio Proto wrote:
> Hello Ruben,
> 
> I would say there is nothing like that VPN service at moment implemented in 
> Ninux.
> 
> Also, we usually make work to provide Internet access only in areas of 
> digital divide, this is not the case of the center of Venice.
> 
> I would say the best is to go with Gluon and the Freifunk VPN in Venice, 
> there is no problem for us. It is not like that you have to call the thing 
> Ninux at all cost because you are in Italy.
> 

I add that if you use gluon and FF VPN and want to call it ninux, 
we are happy as well.

l.
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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Saverio Proto]

Hello Ruben,

I would say there is nothing like that VPN service at moment implemented in
Ninux.

Also, we usually make work to provide Internet access only in areas of
digital divide, this is not the case of the center of Venice.

I would say the best is to go with Gluon and the Freifunk VPN in Venice,
there is no problem for us. It is not like that you have to call the thing
Ninux at all cost because you are in Italy.

Saverio


2016-12-22 2:34 GMT+01:00 Ruben :

> since our goal is to provide internet access through the mesh network too
> there, it would be good to know if there is a community in italy, that
> provides that? That uses VPN exits to redirect the internet traffic?
> maybe we can join that community then. For example, maybe there is a
> community using gluon already?
>
> cheers,
> Ruben
>
> On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 17:14 +0100, Ruben wrote:
> >* Hi there,
> *> >* Me and a Friend would like to start a node in Venice to mesh with
> *>* another node in a pub next door to give the visitors free wifi.
> *>
> Hi Ruben,
>
> >* Is there an easy way to join an existing community, where we just
> *>* download a firmware, flash two routers (for example TP-Link WR842N v3)
> *>* and get lucky?
> *
> the short answer is "not really". Ninux is a community network in which
> every ninux island does things the way they want, we don't have one
> firmware/platform/software that we ask people to install, and we
> don't really have a stated goal of sharing an Internet connection.
> It's more a hacker community in which each group wants to build their
> own network (for the bad and the good this implies) and help each other
> to reach this goal.
>
> So feel free to ask for help, and feel free to use any solution you
> feel confident with, even gluon if that's your choice.
>
> ciao,
> leonardo.
>
>
>
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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Ruben]

since our goal is to provide internet access through the mesh network
too there, it would be good to know if there is a community in italy,
that provides that? That uses VPN exits to redirect the internet traffic?
maybe we can join that community then. For example, maybe there is a
community using gluon already?

cheers,
Ruben

> On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 17:14 +0100, Ruben wrote:
> >/Hi there, />//>/Me and a Friend would like to start a node in Venice to 
> >mesh with />/another node in a pub next door to give the visitors free wifi. 
> >/>//
> Hi Ruben,
>
> >/Is there an easy way to join an existing community, where we just 
> >/>/download a firmware, flash two routers (for example TP-Link WR842N v3) 
> >/>/and get lucky? /
> the short answer is "not really". Ninux is a community network in which
> every ninux island does things the way they want, we don't have one
> firmware/platform/software that we ask people to install, and we
> don't really have a stated goal of sharing an Internet connection.
> It's more a hacker community in which each group wants to build their
> own network (for the bad and the good this implies) and help each other
> to reach this goal.
>
> So feel free to ask for help, and feel free to use any solution you
> feel confident with, even gluon if that's your choice.
>
> ciao,
> leonardo.



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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Leonardo Maccari]

On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 17:14 +0100, Ruben wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Me and a Friend would like to start a node in Venice to mesh with
> another node in a pub next door to give the visitors free wifi.
> 

Hi Ruben,

> Is there an easy way to join an existing community, where we just
> download a firmware, flash two routers (for example TP-Link WR842N v3)
> and get lucky?

the short answer is "not really". Ninux is a community network in which 
every ninux island does things the way they want, we don't have one 
firmware/platform/software that we ask people to install, and we 
don't really have a stated goal of sharing an Internet connection. 
It's more a hacker community in which each group wants to build their 
own network (for the bad and the good this implies) and help each other
to reach this goal.

So feel free to ask for help, and feel free to use any solution you
feel confident with, even gluon if that's your choice. 

ciao,
leonardo.

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[Ninux-Wireless] Starting a new node in Venice

[Ruben]

Hi there,

Me and a Friend would like to start a node in Venice to mesh with
another node in a pub next door to give the visitors free wifi.

Is there an easy way to join an existing community, where we just
download a firmware, flash two routers (for example TP-Link WR842N v3)
and get lucky?

I am from the german Freifunk Nord community and we use gluon there
which makes it really easy for the users to create new nodes and join
the party.

I tried to find out on http://ninux.org but there seems no simple
english explanation, how and where to start.
Even the "Quick Guide" linked on the english main page just leads to
http://wiki.ninux.org/MakeANode which does not explain anything.

I added some contact information there in the "Quick Guide" now for a
start, so new users have a point where to start, but there is missing a
lot more to call it a "Quick Guide" ;)

So please, what would be the fastest and simplest way for us to join Ninux?

Cheers,
Ruben

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