Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front
Johnny-o, I have made some mistakes in the past, however this is wimax- and for the most part I have no reason to believe any of their claims are false or Filled with marketing goobly gook. Aperto always did and has performed well beyond it's claims. I admit fault In intially thinking that the product from vivato would be interesting, Of course as many of you know now, they never had a real phased array antenna and with the noise floor where it is in 2.4, doesn't make much Of a difference. Airspan I have had some experience with ( their wipll platform ) and everything that they claim about it is actually true, So I would naturally assume that this is the same case. Additionally, If they didn't know what they were doing they wouldn't have deployments Like the one they have in japan that has over 25,000 CPE's, ( using the same product ) or the one They have in mexico that has 750,000 clients. - Jeff On 6/8/06 9:31 PM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff - how many other platforms have you tooted the horn on that have never produced the results you claimed ? Not trying to rain on your parade here, but every platform you've tooted ranting raves about, has never lived up to it's hype from what I have seen. JohnnyO Wanting to be a believer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front Simple. Since the CPE self provisions and aligns itself, the customer only need to know they need to install the device on their rooftop. And they also have indoor devices that work to maybe a KM or so from the tower but those Are as simple as a customer plugs in the ethernet plug and power and puts The CPE near a window. I honestly doubt anyone will use them, but they Are available. So really zero truck roll? Not really as most customers will want the wisp to install it- but the major benefit is that the CPE's will not require techs to carry a pc or anything other than cabling and tools to set up the roof mount. - Jeff On 6/8/06 8:04 PM, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Color me jaded, but how can you get a zero truck roll CPE in 5.4-5.9 unlicensed? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless jeffrey thomas wrote: Guys, Just got out of training for the new AIRSPAN wimax product for 5.8. Unlike most other vendors, they are going to market with their 802.16-2004 5.4-5.9 solution and are shipping in JULY, and expect FCC certification for their 802.16-2004 product for 4.9 Ghz as well in July! I am very excited about this as the 3 plus years of waiting for a viable, wimax product in a band that everyone can deploy in will be available. So, while the equipment has not been ratified by the Wimax forum as of yet, ( and they havent even decided when they will be certifying vendors ) this product will be either complaint as is or will require a minor software upgrade for Wimax forum certified compatiability, assuming that the forum go with the 802.16-2004 spec as planned. some notes on the product: initial pricing expected to be very reasonably priced on the AP side of things, 600.00 / cpe 35 mb / sector real world throughput @ 64 QAM full service flow integration for QOS can be used in either 5 mhz channel size or 10 mhz channel zero truck roll CPE ( users can easily install the equipment ) full blown FCAPS compliant NMS ( Fault monitoring configuration authentication provisioning security ) color me excited :) - Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
AirmatrixOS is not starOS and does offer vlans. Its its own web based OS. You can order their stuff with starOS, but that's really only specific custoemrs that order it anymore. - Jeff On 6/8/06 10:03 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Airmatrix does VLAN but its uses StarOS, so it does VLAN the wrong way for some one trying to sell to carriers. If you sell to a carrier, they are going towant to be delivered a minimum of 1500 MTU. StarOS can't do that with VLAN. However, if you didn;t need VLAN, Defacto does give EXCELLENT support. And they ship ONTIME. They aren't the cheapest, but they give the value you are looking for. Mikrotik is the preferred solution if you need to do VLAN. Wisp-Router also offers support. He's been in business now for atleast 10 years. He may charge you by the minute, but not at a rate any higher than Cisco would charge you. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device I could be missing the product you are suggesting, but the only dual radio products I can find our base station products. I not looking for a base station, I am looking for something client facing. Further, I see no mention of VLAN support. -Matt jeffrey thomas wrote: Airmatrix can do that. www.defactowireless.com On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:17:30 -0400, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am looking for a device with the following requirements: * Can backhaul at 11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band * Can support VLANs * Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet port * Powered by PoE (the standard is not required) * Can act as a 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi access point assigned to a different VLAN than the Ethernet port * Everything in a single outdoor enclosure Any ideas? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
Lets say you are using vlans to not only segment traffic, but priortize traffic as well. So a double tagged vlan, would give you the ability to create A vlan for segmentation and a VLAN within that vlan for priortization, for additional segmentation as well. I could be wrong though. - Jeff On 6/9/06 7:50 AM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, John Scrivner wrote: Can you or someone explain what double VLAN is? I have never heard of such a thing. How can it be used to help us? Not having read the entire thread, I'm assuming the term double VLAN refers to the ability to create a VLAN (or many) that each have VLANs inside them. There are some places where this may be needed, but it can get to be an extremely complex network. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front
Yup. On 6/9/06 8:33 AM, Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Thomas = Jeff Booher Jeffrey Thomas Booher actually -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front Jeffrey Thomas - DOH ! - For some reason I had Jeff Booher on the brain and made mistake of making this post ! ! ! ! Please - pretty please forgive me for mixing you up ? /me holds head down and kicks rocks JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front Jeff - how many other platforms have you tooted the horn on that have never produced the results you claimed ? Not trying to rain on your parade here, but every platform you've tooted ranting raves about, has never lived up to it's hype from what I have seen. JohnnyO Wanting to be a believer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front Simple. Since the CPE self provisions and aligns itself, the customer only need to know they need to install the device on their rooftop. And they also have indoor devices that work to maybe a KM or so from the tower but those Are as simple as a customer plugs in the ethernet plug and power and puts The CPE near a window. I honestly doubt anyone will use them, but they Are available. So really zero truck roll? Not really as most customers will want the wisp to install it- but the major benefit is that the CPE's will not require techs to carry a pc or anything other than cabling and tools to set up the roof mount. - Jeff On 6/8/06 8:04 PM, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Color me jaded, but how can you get a zero truck roll CPE in 5.4-5.9 unlicensed? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless jeffrey thomas wrote: Guys, Just got out of training for the new AIRSPAN wimax product for 5.8. Unlike most other vendors, they are going to market with their 802.16-2004 5.4-5.9 solution and are shipping in JULY, and expect FCC certification for their 802.16-2004 product for 4.9 Ghz as well in July! I am very excited about this as the 3 plus years of waiting for a viable, wimax product in a band that everyone can deploy in will be available. So, while the equipment has not been ratified by the Wimax forum as of yet, ( and they havent even decided when they will be certifying vendors ) this product will be either complaint as is or will require a minor software upgrade for Wimax forum certified compatiability, assuming that the forum go with the 802.16-2004 spec as planned. some notes on the product: initial pricing expected to be very reasonably priced on the AP side of things, 600.00 / cpe 35 mb / sector real world throughput @ 64 QAM full service flow integration for QOS can be used in either 5 mhz channel size or 10 mhz channel zero truck roll CPE ( users can easily install the equipment ) full blown FCAPS compliant NMS ( Fault monitoring configuration authentication provisioning security ) color me excited :) - Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MobilePro Ditches Sacramento
Interesting that the city changed the contract after the fact. George Peter R. wrote: MobilePro Ditches Muni Mesh Project http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/17055.html Wireless data specialist MobilePro this morning walked away from its contract to build a citywide Wi-Fi mesh in Sacramento, Calif. - only two months after the first test system went live - in what looks to be an acrimonious disagreement with city officials over the economics behind the deal. MobilePro says the city blindsided it with new contract requirements that would require it to give away high-speed service for which it had planned to charge. In addition, the company says the city has withdrawn guarantees that the company would serve as anchor tenant for the network in order to provide the revenue to provide lower-speed service to economically disadvantaged residents. MobilePro won the Sacramento contract last year, beating Motorola and ATT (then known as SBC) for the business. The plan called for a mesh that initially covered Sacramento's downtown, Old Town and state-capital areas - an area of about 10 square miles - with the entire city to eventually be built out in phases. MobilePro was to provide various free and fee-based services with secure high-speed data, voice and video throughout the planned coverage area. Subscriptions were to be sold on an annual, monthly, daily and hourly basis. Multiple Internet service providers (ISPs) were to be allowed to sell their services over the network. The entire project, MobilePro says, was to be based on its massive project in Arizona, which started in the city of Tempe and which has since grown to include neighboring municipalities to create a muni mesh sprawling across 187 miles of Arizona, the largest so far seen (TelecomWeb news break, March 16). After what MobilePro termed a lengthy permitting process, it finally launched its first pilot test in April in an area around the city's Caesar Chavez Plaza park. The pilot launch included a ribbon-cutting ceremony, with local politicians mouthing predictable platitudes about cutting the wire and the importance of the whole thing to the city and its residents, students, visitors and businesses. Meanwhile, things weren't going smoothly behind the scenes. MobilePro says the city sent it a counter proposal requiring that the company establish a free high-speed wireless network supported almost exclusively by advertising revenue without the benefit of the city serving as an anchor tenant. Such a demand directly conflicts with the original plan, according to a .PDF presentation on the Sacramento City Web site. In that presentation, the city outlined a project with free 56 Kb/s service, but residential service priced at $20 month for 1 Mb/s and $30 per month for 1.5 Mb/s; higher prices were detailed for business service or service that includes VoIP. There also was a somewhat sneaky price plan of $4 for one hour of service - an emerging tactic in the industry that can zing a single shot user with what is really an astronomical fee for a few bits of data - but just $6 for an entire day or $10 for a week. Based on the company's successful Tempe, Ariz., model, MobilePro's original proposal provided for limited-area, limited-bandwidth, no-cost service but required higher- bandwidth broadband users to pay a monthly fee, the company says, adding it also offered an alternative designed to close the 'digital divide' to the city's low-income quintile of residents, which included the city serving as an anchor tenant, but this proposal was likewise rejected by the city. Thus, the company says, it has now rejected the city as a customer. MobilePro President and COO Jerry Sullivan, in a prepared statement explaining the decision, said, It is our understanding based on the final request of the City of Sacramento that the city would require MobilePro to provide free high-speed wireless Internet service to all residents and have the company rely primarily on advertising revenues for its profits and returns on investment. Based upon MobilePro's research and experience as one of the leading Wi-Fi broadband wireless network service providers to municipalities in North America, MobilePro does not believe that an advertising-supported business case is financially sustainable. At this time, we view such a restrictive economic model as incompatible with our original long-term plans for both the residents of Sacramento as well as the MobilePro stockholders. As of press time, the city of Sacramento had not said what it now plans to do, if anything, to offer a municipal mesh network. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] MobilePro Ditches Sacramento
Sounds to me like the original contract wasn't a contract. Otherwise, MobilePro would have grounds for breach and there doesn't appear to be any lawsuit pending. I'm guessing that MobilePro was in the process of providing a proof-of-concept in order to secure a contract. - Larry - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MobilePro Ditches Sacramento Interesting that the city changed the contract after the fact. George Peter R. wrote: MobilePro Ditches Muni Mesh Project http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/17055.html Wireless data specialist MobilePro this morning walked away from its contract to build a citywide Wi-Fi mesh in Sacramento, Calif. - only two months after the first test system went live - in what looks to be an acrimonious disagreement with city officials over the economics behind the deal. MobilePro says the city blindsided it with new contract requirements that would require it to give away high-speed service for which it had planned to charge. In addition, the company says the city has withdrawn guarantees that the company would serve as anchor tenant for the network in order to provide the revenue to provide lower-speed service to economically disadvantaged residents. MobilePro won the Sacramento contract last year, beating Motorola and ATT (then known as SBC) for the business. The plan called for a mesh that initially covered Sacramento's downtown, Old Town and state-capital areas - an area of about 10 square miles - with the entire city to eventually be built out in phases. MobilePro was to provide various free and fee-based services with secure high-speed data, voice and video throughout the planned coverage area. Subscriptions were to be sold on an annual, monthly, daily and hourly basis. Multiple Internet service providers (ISPs) were to be allowed to sell their services over the network. The entire project, MobilePro says, was to be based on its massive project in Arizona, which started in the city of Tempe and which has since grown to include neighboring municipalities to create a muni mesh sprawling across 187 miles of Arizona, the largest so far seen (TelecomWeb news break, March 16). After what MobilePro termed a lengthy permitting process, it finally launched its first pilot test in April in an area around the city's Caesar Chavez Plaza park. The pilot launch included a ribbon-cutting ceremony, with local politicians mouthing predictable platitudes about cutting the wire and the importance of the whole thing to the city and its residents, students, visitors and businesses. Meanwhile, things weren't going smoothly behind the scenes. MobilePro says the city sent it a counter proposal requiring that the company establish a free high-speed wireless network supported almost exclusively by advertising revenue without the benefit of the city serving as an anchor tenant. Such a demand directly conflicts with the original plan, according to a .PDF presentation on the Sacramento City Web site. In that presentation, the city outlined a project with free 56 Kb/s service, but residential service priced at $20 month for 1 Mb/s and $30 per month for 1.5 Mb/s; higher prices were detailed for business service or service that includes VoIP. There also was a somewhat sneaky price plan of $4 for one hour of service - an emerging tactic in the industry that can zing a single shot user with what is really an astronomical fee for a few bits of data - but just $6 for an entire day or $10 for a week. Based on the company's successful Tempe, Ariz., model, MobilePro's original proposal provided for limited-area, limited-bandwidth, no-cost service but required higher- bandwidth broadband users to pay a monthly fee, the company says, adding it also offered an alternative designed to close the 'digital divide' to the city's low-income quintile of residents, which included the city serving as an anchor tenant, but this proposal was likewise rejected by the city. Thus, the company says, it has now rejected the city as a customer. MobilePro President and COO Jerry Sullivan, in a prepared statement explaining the decision, said, It is our understanding based on the final request of the City of Sacramento that the city would require MobilePro to provide free high-speed wireless Internet service to all residents and have the company rely primarily on advertising revenues for its profits and returns on investment. Based upon MobilePro's research and experience as one of the leading Wi-Fi broadband wireless network service providers to municipalities in North America, MobilePro does not believe that an advertising-supported business case is financially sustainable. At this time, we view such a restrictive economic model as incompatible with our original long-term plans for both the residents of
RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO
Looks like it's that time of year again! Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate that!! http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm1/closeupsat_large_animated.html Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO
the more this happens to you folks down there... the more I thank God I live in the Northwest. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO Looks like it's that time of year again! Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate that!! http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm1/closeupsat_large_animated.html Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO
Ya, Im not feeling to good about this either being so early in the season. I started last week going back on jobs with non penetrating roof mounts and guying them to the nearest anchor. Dont want them flying off the roof just in case. I saw what Katrina did in the east and cinder blocks just did not hold them down. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO Looks like it's that time of year again! Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate that!! http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm1/closeupsat_large_animated.html Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO
And the more I thank god you live in the NorthWest as well :)~ JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO the more this happens to you folks down there... the more I thank God I live in the Northwest. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO Looks like it's that time of year again! Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate that!! http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm1/closeupsat_large_animated.h tml Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO
We're seeing the storm bands in Tampa now. Very wet. Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO We have earlier happy hours down here in the south. I guess it helps us to cope with all of this. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO And the more I thank god you live in the NorthWest as well :)~ JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO the more this happens to you folks down there... the more I thank God I live in the Northwest. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO Looks like it's that time of year again! Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate that!! http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm1/closeupsat_large_animated.h tml Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Coverage Sterling, IL 61081
20269 Luther Rd I need service here, hit me offlist if you can help. Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC Jeff Broadwick wrote: Sorry for the cross post. Does anyone have coverage to the east of Boone, North Carolina? My customer is high up in the hills and ATT wants $15K to bring him a T1. Jeff Jeffrey Broadwick, Sales Manager ImageStream Internet Solutions Routers for the Real World! 800-813-5123 x106 (USA) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) +1 574-935-8488(Fax) www.imagestream.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG WISP Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe wisp yournickname To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe wisp) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO
I was thinking it was because you don't have open container laws and the bars never close Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Joe Laura wrote: We have earlier happy hours down here in the south. I guess it helps us to cope with all of this. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO And the more I thank god you live in the NorthWest as well :)~ JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO the more this happens to you folks down there... the more I thank God I live in the Northwest. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO Looks like it's that time of year again! Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate that!! http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm1/closeupsat_large_animated.h tml Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Spectrum sharing test proposal
Hi All, Sorry for the cross post. I'm hoping that the FCC committee people will see this sooner and work on it sooner/more this way Here is the issue: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-77A1.pdf Basically the FCC is asking if they should allow two 10MHz chunks of spectrum to be used as tests. Exactly what the tests would be, what spectrum would be used, and what we should be looking for is all up in the air. I've attached my 1st draft. Please note the paragraph numbers when you respond to me so I can more easily work your thoughts into this. thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam Spectrum Sharing Test-bed 06-89.doc Description: MS-Word document -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps
Title: Wireless Interactive Newsletter Anyone know anything about these guys? Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Wireless Interactive Comm., Inc. To: List Member Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps Home Company Info How to Buy THE COMPETITION DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE ORION 900 gives you the option to expand your wireless infrastructure, while at the same time providing your clients with up to 22 Mbps effective throughput. The competition offers an average of less than 3 Mbps. But what makes the ORION 900 truly a breakthrough radio, is that it is equipped with built-in OFDM technology -- something no other 900 Mhz radio on the market can claim -- so you can be sure to get signal where you wouldn't normally expect. NOT JUSTA BACKHAUL SOLUTION The diagram on the right shows just one of a few ways the ORION 900 can be used to enhance an infrastructure. It is shown as an Access Point that can connect to up to 4 unique MAC addresses, including another Access Point to even further extend the range of the wireless infrastructure. To see other examples of how the ORION 900 can be incorporated in your network: SPECIFICATIONS 900 MhzBUILT-IN OFDM1W OUTPUT22 Mbps EFFECTIVE THROUGHPUTUP TO 70 km RANGE Site MapContact InfoTotal Solutions Wireless Interactive Comm., Inc. 23112 Alcalde Drive, Suite C · Laguna Hills, California92653USAPhone: +1 (949) 215-6277 · Fax: +1 (949) 215-6278 Click here to change or remove your subscriptionPowered by Microsoft Small Business -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fw: Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps
Title: Wireless Interactive Newsletter $732 for each unit - cpe or AP - and the AP can serve up to 3 cpe's. Supposedly, each CPE can also be an AP to 3 more... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:59 PMTo: wireless@wispa.orgSubject: [WISPA] Fw: Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps Anyone know anything about these guys? Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Wireless Interactive Comm., Inc. To: List Member Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps Home Company Info How to Buy THE COMPETITION DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE ORION 900 gives you the option to expand your wireless infrastructure, while at the same time providing your clients with up to 22 Mbps effective throughput. The competition offers an average of less than 3 Mbps. But what makes the ORION 900 truly a breakthrough radio, is that it is equipped with built-in OFDM technology -- something no other 900 Mhz radio on the market can claim -- so you can be sure to get signal where you wouldn't normally expect. NOT JUSTA BACKHAUL SOLUTION The diagram on the right shows just one of a few ways the ORION 900 can be used to enhance an infrastructure. It is shown as an Access Point that can connect to up to 4 unique MAC addresses, including another Access Point to even further extend the range of the wireless infrastructure. To see other examples of how the ORION 900 can be incorporated in your network: SPECIFICATIONS 900 MhzBUILT-IN OFDM1W OUTPUT22 Mbps EFFECTIVE THROUGHPUTUP TO 70 km RANGE Site MapContact InfoTotal Solutions Wireless Interactive Comm., Inc. 23112 Alcalde Drive, Suite C Laguna Hills, California92653USAPhone: +1 (949) 215-6277 Fax: +1 (949) 215-6278 Click here to change or remove your subscriptionPowered by Microsoft Small Business -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] Coverage Sterling, IL 61081
Thanks Mike. Mike Delp wrote: Brian, Give Owen Harrell a call. You met him at MUM in Dallas. He is in Sterling. http://www.essex1.com/ Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] Coverage Sterling, IL 61081 20269 Luther Rd I need service here, hit me offlist if you can help. Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC Jeff Broadwick wrote: Sorry for the cross post. Does anyone have coverage to the east of Boone, North Carolina? My customer is high up in the hills and ATT wants $15K to bring him a T1. Jeff Jeffrey Broadwick, Sales Manager ImageStream Internet Solutions Routers for the Real World! 800-813-5123 x106 (USA) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) +1 574-935-8488(Fax) www.imagestream.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG WISP Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe wisp yournickname To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe wisp) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps
Talk to Jamie S. I think he has a link up and running. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Anyone know anything about these guys? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam http://www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - *From:* Wireless Interactive Comm., Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* List Member mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:19 AM *Subject:* Orion 900 MHz OFDM 22 Mbps Home http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143437s=187045 Company Info http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143438s=187045 How to Buy http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143435s=187045 http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143436s=187045 THE COMPETITION DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE ORION 900 gives you the option to expand your wireless infrastructure, while at the same time providing your clients with up to 22 Mbps effective throughput. The competition offers an average of less than 3 Mbps. But what makes the ORION 900 truly a breakthrough radio, is that it is equipped with *built-in OFDM technology* -- something no other 900 Mhz radio on the market can claim -- so you can be sure to get signal where you wouldn't normally expect. NOT JUST A BACKHAUL SOLUTION The diagram on the right shows just one of a few ways the ORION 900 can be used to enhance an infrastructure. It is shown as an Access Point that can connect to up to 4 unique MAC addresses, including another Access Point to even further extend the range of the wireless infrastructure. To see other examples of how the ORION 900 can be incorporated in your network: http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143433s=187045 * SPECIFICATIONS* *900 Mhz *BUILT-IN *OFDM* *1W* OUTPUT *22 Mbps* EFFECTIVE THROUGHPUT UP TO *70 km* RANGE http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143436s=187045 Site Map http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143440s=187045 Contact Info http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143434s=187045 Total Solutions http://rd.bcentral.com/?ID=4143439s=187045 Wireless Interactive Comm., Inc. 23112 Alcalde Drive, Suite C · Laguna Hills, California 92653 USA Phone: +1 (949) 215-6277 · Fax: +1 (949) 215-6278 Click here to change or remove your subscription http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/sp?c=47033s=830E7325D46A4C62m=49 Powered by Microsoft Small Business http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=62567 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
To clarify The term I referred to as Double VLAN is not the technically correct name (thats just what I call it), it is actually called Q in Q as stated by several in this thread. One of the reasons this is valuable is for a wholesale network. It basically allows you to create a single VLAN end to end across your network for a subscriber or reseller, and still use VLAN for your local needs to operate your network. I'll give an example of where I might use VLAN for my network need. I have a single fiber connection from the basement to the roof. On the roof I have a VLAN switch and 6 sector radios. I have a router in the basement. I could then seperate data between the different radio traffic by giving a unique VLAN to the Ethernet port that each sector radio connects to, and route between them in my basement router. I'll give an example of where I'd use a VLAN end to end for a reseller. Reseller has a connection between me and them at one point on my network. The reseller might provide the backbone and IPs. The client routes the customers traffic to a specific VLAN when entering my network. I then have that VLAN configured across my network until reaches the end user's building router that terminates the VLAN. Now what happens when the resellers customer (example 2) resides in the building (example 1)? Normally two VLANs can't exist simultaneously as teh switch wouldn;t know which ID to tag data with. Q in Q VLAN would allow one VLAN ID to reside in side of another VLAN. Its the same concept as tunnelling, except for its not. Now how does this apply to radios that support Q in Q? Depends. Use your imagination. The first problem is can the radio pass Q in Q VLAN data? Second can it tag it? Being able to tag VLAN data at the radio level can be extremely useful. First off it avoids having to configure a second device (VLAN switch) that complicates the automation of configurations. Part of the Idea is that CLECs and Governement, are all high on Security, and they do not want to have to coordinate complex IP models between their systems and the wholesalers, instead they want to be able to send traffic LAyer2 and seperate traffic so one client does not have the abilty to see the other client's traffic. Its sort of an Ethernet way of doing a Private Virtual Circuit. The only problem with VLAN is you need to have every component of you network that passes VLANs to be able to pass large packets so Full MTU can be delivered to clients. This is one of the limits to Wifi and regular switches, is many Wifi devices and all non managed switches do not pass large packets. Radio like Trango and Alvarion (with Q in Q support) have the abilty to pass large packets. The other advantage of VLAN is that when used across a PtMP design and VLAN support at CPE, it allows doing remote banwdith management based on the customers circuit ID, and having a way to distinguish and differentiate the data. Q in Q, gives the provider flexibilty on how and when they would like to use VLAN and in multiple ways simultaneously. Its uncertain how Q in Q will be used for sure, as VLAN does add much complexity over say a basic bridged design. Part of the benefit, is that redundancy is not always supported in an ideal way when VLAN is used. By allowing a VLAN end to end encapsulated in the other packets, it potentially could allow avoiding the pitfalls that limit redundancy by having the end locations (the reseller and the client) the one tagging the VLAN and knowing that that VLAN info survives any other VLAN tagging that may happen on the network, or for that matter abilty for that data to route across paths that are not technically that VLAN assignment on the other layer. I'm not explaining this clearly, but that is the gist of it. The end result is, if a provider's whole network supports Q in Q, it allows them to compete with other fiber Metro-E services. Many believe that the design of the future for Metro deployments is to run MPLS at the edge devices, and then Q in Q VLAN inside the Metro Ethernet rings. The key ideas here is abilty to creaetequivelent of virtual circuits of Ethernet. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] looking for a device I think Jon is asking about the double VLAN -- or a q in q implementation It's extremely useful for creating virtual bridged customer networks -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:10 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] looking for a device Virtual LAN. Imagine segregating segments of your
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
MPLS is atricky thing to define as MPLS has many components and features, depending on what features you want. The biggest benefit of MPLS is it is a labeling system. Each packet gets labeled with a class, and that class can include many variables (destination, source, packet type/port, customer name, a few others, etc). This label is integrated into the packet and follows it. What you do with that label data depends. MPLS also includes components for distributing instruvtion on how to handle the various classes to its neighbors and routers across the network, as well how to have that labeling survive differnt network types (ATM, EThernet, Sonet). MPLS also has a VPN tunnelling feature, most advantageous because its abilty to survive dissimilar networks. Many Believe Q in Q is a replacement for MPLS for local Metro Ethernet networks. VLANs are different in the sense that each packet may be tagged with a VLAN ID, but it also requires manual configuration of every switch that it crosses. So you physically map out the VLANs path via the Switch configuration. Or atleast, at what point the VLAN Switch stripps the tag and retags it. But this is defined per ethernet port across your network. One of the benefits of VLAN, is that it is widely supported by many many many in place devices. And there are just a few simple bits changed in the header of each packet at Layer 2. So it is VERY fast. ZERO degregation to delivery of packet thats getting tagged and untagged. You can now buy Layer2 managed (VLAN) 100 mbps 24 pot switches for $160. (SMC). MPLS is more involved because you now have to have more expensive routers and MPLS enabled devices. Its a big redesign to add MPLS. One of the reasons people only use it at the edge where it is most appropriate to use for large providers. A MPLS does nothing unless there is a router configured with a decission process on what to do with specific class packets. Its not just about the circuit ID. MPLS can forward it to a priority queue for example to control QOS. But what one learns is that Ethernet is also starting to get QOS features added, without MPLS required, and there are many third party solutions like Diff Serv that can be integrated with VLAns to get addequate results for one network design to deliver QOS. Mikrotik EoIP, not exactly sure. I know it has significantly more over head on the packet than VLAN, wasting bandwidth. BUt I'd like to learn more about what EoIP is. I think the most valuable technology of the three for WISPs depends on which ones get implemented into radios. We gain ease and power, when the features are added to the radios. One of the things that gives MPLS a disadvantage is that there is not a good reliable open source version of it yet. VLAN is solid on OPEN source. You want a technology that works on your routers and your radios both. MPLS is more complex and needs more processing power and code than just VLAN so less likely to be added to radio firmwares. I am no way dismissing MPLS, I'm just saying committing to MPLS may mean commiting to name brand routers and such. MPLS is more powerful and ideal in many ways, but if you do not require all the features you can accomplish many of the things using alternate solutions that can be delivered today. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device Thanks to all for the double VLAN explanation. That makes perfect sense to me now. Can anyone describe any functional and/or technical differences between VLANs and say MPLS or Mikrotik's EoIP? It sounds to me like all three are functional equivalents of each other. Please correct me if this is an incorrect assumption. I have Googled it so spare me the obvious. I want to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Scriv Eric Rogers wrote: It is also referred as 802.1q tagging... If it supports multiple layers, you can have a customer VLAN tags within your network VLAN tags. Just need your equipment that takes off your tags before it gets to the customer. ATT uses the Cisco 3750 switches to do it at the customer's premises. Then the customer can have VLAN 10 at one location and VLAN 10 at another, and it is completely transparent to the end user. If that made sense. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:34 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] looking for a device Google (or Cisco) is your friend http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5207/products_feature_ guid e09186a00801f0f4a.html -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
Is the AirMAtrix stuff you are specifying, are you referring to their MESH implemetation, or is that also different? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device AirmatrixOS is not starOS and does offer vlans. Its its own web based OS. You can order their stuff with starOS, but that's really only specific custoemrs that order it anymore. - Jeff On 6/8/06 10:03 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Airmatrix does VLAN but its uses StarOS, so it does VLAN the wrong way for some one trying to sell to carriers. If you sell to a carrier, they are going towant to be delivered a minimum of 1500 MTU. StarOS can't do that with VLAN. However, if you didn;t need VLAN, Defacto does give EXCELLENT support. And they ship ONTIME. They aren't the cheapest, but they give the value you are looking for. Mikrotik is the preferred solution if you need to do VLAN. Wisp-Router also offers support. He's been in business now for atleast 10 years. He may charge you by the minute, but not at a rate any higher than Cisco would charge you. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device I could be missing the product you are suggesting, but the only dual radio products I can find our base station products. I not looking for a base station, I am looking for something client facing. Further, I see no mention of VLAN support. -Matt jeffrey thomas wrote: Airmatrix can do that. www.defactowireless.com On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:17:30 -0400, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am looking for a device with the following requirements: * Can backhaul at 11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band * Can support VLANs * Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet port * Powered by PoE (the standard is not required) * Can act as a 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi access point assigned to a different VLAN than the Ethernet port * Everything in a single outdoor enclosure Any ideas? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
Jeff, Yes that is yet another clever way to use Q in Q VLANs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device Lets say you are using vlans to not only segment traffic, but priortize traffic as well. So a double tagged vlan, would give you the ability to create A vlan for segmentation and a VLAN within that vlan for priortization, for additional segmentation as well. I could be wrong though. - Jeff On 6/9/06 7:50 AM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, John Scrivner wrote: Can you or someone explain what double VLAN is? I have never heard of such a thing. How can it be used to help us? Not having read the entire thread, I'm assuming the term double VLAN refers to the ability to create a VLAN (or many) that each have VLANs inside them. There are some places where this may be needed, but it can get to be an extremely complex network. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Zcomax has WIMAX?
http://www.zcom.com.tw/news001.htm -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zcomax has WIMAX?
Why is the 3.5 Wi-Max license free band not approved in the U.S. ??? -- Brad H On 6/12/06, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zcom.com.tw/news001.htm--George Rogato Welcome to WISPAwww.wispa.orghttp://signup.wispa.org/--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
